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    Communities > Forums > Article: Daffodils
    Forum: Article: DaffodilsReplies: 21, Views: 121
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    heathrjoy
    Weedville, PA (Zone 6a)

    September 19, 2007 5:07 AM

    Post #3992013

    Gloria,
    What an informative article and beautiful pics! I'd never heard of a bulb augur before, but I think I'll be getting one. I always wondered how folks planted 100's of bulbs. I can just envision the Daffs around my Apple, Plum and Pear trees next spring.

    I've also fallen in love with the pic of Paperwhite 'Ziva' (Tazetta Narcissus) and decided I *must* have some. If DH disagrees I'll just tell him that "daffodils, like diamonds, are forever." I love that line!

    Thanks again!
    Heather

    critterologist

    critterologist
    Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)

    September 19, 2007 12:14 PM

    Post #3992444

    What an informative & encouraging article! I just ordered a couple hundred more daffodils -- not quite a bushel, but I'm sure I've planted a bushel or two altogether out there!

    The bulb augers seem to work best in relatively loose soil. Maybe my drill simply lacked power, but it hardly made a dent in the clay of an unamended area of my hard. I've switched to digging a larger hole and planting clumps of 5 to 15 (still spaced 4 to 6 inches apart). I've also tried the random method of placing bulbs by throwing them, but I can never find them all to plant them! LOL Maybe I need to hit them with a little florescent pink landscape paint first...

    Your type of soil may also affect how deep you plant the bulbs. In the dense clay I have here, bulbs planted 8 inches deep would never see the light of day... I dig my hole only about twice as deep as the diameter of the bulb, but most of my daffs are in areas that get mulched for winter protection.

    And by all means, when you're ordering daffs, get some "little bulbs" to plant with them. They can go right on top of the daffs in the same hole. Using the 2 to 3 times the diameter of the bulb rule for depth means a 1 inch crocus bulb needs just an inch or two of soil covering it. :-)

    Thanks for a great article, with lots of inspiring photos!
    gloria125
    Greensboro, AL

    September 19, 2007 1:50 PM

    Post #3992723

    critter. Are you putting something in the hole to help with drainage? So many grey haired ladies have told me how their Brownie Scout group helped plant the daffodils at the historic house here. I think the trick to keeping them found was to keep a Brownie in each area until the "diggers" got around to the entire space that was being planted.

    Clay soil can be a real challenge. Thanks for your input.

    critterologist

    critterologist
    Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)

    September 19, 2007 2:59 PM

    Post #3992937

    Most of my bulbs get planted into areas that have been amended with good compost, which helps. I also give a little sprinkle of polymer moisture crystals into the hole for nearly everything that I plant, including bulbs... they work to soak up extra water in wet soil, also, so they're good for soil that could use a little extra drainage. But even amended clay is still denser and moister than sandy loam. :-)

    I generally use the rule of thumb that bulbs should be planted 2 to 3 times as deep as their diameter, so I've never planted anything as deep as 8 inches except some really enormous "Naked Lady" bulbs. My mom planted some daffs 6 to 8 inches deep when she first moved to Pittsburgh (also clay based soil), and she never saw them again. I think how deep to plant may vary with zone as well as with soil... in the south, maybe they need to be a bit deeper so they stay a little cooler. For me, 4 to 6 inches deep works fine for daffodils.

    I think if I had a Brownie troop on hand, I could keep track of a bushel of tossed-around bulbs! I love that image of a troop of giggling girls running around an old estate, helping to place and plant the bulbs.
    gloria125
    Greensboro, AL

    September 19, 2007 3:18 PM

    Post #3992998

    The daffodil bulbs (and daylily cover) was planted in 1948. When I saw those Brownies, they were still giggling but they were 75 years old.

    critterologist

    critterologist
    Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)

    September 19, 2007 3:20 PM

    Post #3993006

    yet another wonderful image!

    :-)
    Dea
    Frederick, MD (Zone 6a)

    September 19, 2007 6:39 PM

    Post #3993687

    Great article and wonderful photos!

    First thing we did when we moved here was to plant daffs - of all kinds and varieties. 6 years later (a short time) they still come up like clockwork and we just love them.

    Thanks :)
    fancyvan
    Calgary, AB (Zone 3a)

    September 19, 2007 6:44 PM

    Post #3993703

    I've been working on a Daffodil 'border' along the lower side of a curve or rock across my front garden, over the years have planted several hundred I guess - I just bought a mixed bag of 50 or so every fall.I plant by digging out a large hole and putting in a
    5-6 bulbs and then covering, beats digging individual holes. Mine go about 6 inchs deep.
    Islandshari
    Kwajalein
    Marshall Islands (Zone 11)

    September 19, 2007 8:28 PM

    Post #3994017

    Enjoyed your article very much Gloria! I do miss my daffs come February and March.
    gloria125
    Greensboro, AL

    September 19, 2007 9:02 PM

    Post #3994188

    Islandshari: Don't daffodils grow on the islands?
    Islandshari
    Kwajalein
    Marshall Islands (Zone 11)

    September 19, 2007 10:14 PM

    Post #3994441

    No bulbs that need that bit of freeze can grow here...Although one year I did start some columbine and then put it in the restaurant freezer for a bit...they did well for me for a short time, but our weather is too extreme for most bulbs. More's the pity.
    KyWoods
    Melbourne, KY (Zone 6a)

    September 19, 2007 11:55 PM

    Post #3994806

    What? Squirrels won't eat 'em? Gotta have 'em, then!!! Thanks!
    peony01
    Prattville, AL (Zone 8a)

    September 19, 2007 11:56 PM

    Post #3994811

    Gloria, Thanks for the great article. I've done volunteer work at Lanark (Home of the Alabama Wildlife Federation) where we planted 5,000 or so a year. We planted them in clumps, in what we called "swooshes) (sort of flowing things that look like water running through the pine trees). They are really beautiful in the spring. On a negative note, I am concerned about our drought. Thanks.
    gloria125
    Greensboro, AL

    September 19, 2007 11:58 PM

    Post #3994819

    Some daffodils are from the mediteranean area. They need excellent drainage. Tulips wont grow here because they need a chill but I didn't think it was a requirement for daffs.
    gloria125
    Greensboro, AL

    September 20, 2007 12:01 AM

    Post #3994831

    peony: My 5000 a year! That must be quite a sight to see.



    Thanks everyone for your comments.


    gloria

    critterologist

    critterologist
    Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)

    September 20, 2007 12:05 AM

    Post #3994851

    Bleek (of eflowergardens.com) recently recommended Narc. 'Saint Keverne' http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/73074/ to me as a good, early yellow daffodil. In looking it up, I discovered it's said to be one of the best daffs for the south... you might just ask Bleek how he thinks it would fare in the Marshall Islands!
    Cordeledawg
    Cordele, GA (Zone 8a)

    September 20, 2007 1:06 AM

    Post #3995106

    Great article, Gloria. You have gotten me excited about the planting more bulbs!
    Islandshari
    Kwajalein
    Marshall Islands (Zone 11)

    September 20, 2007 1:16 AM

    Post #3995132

    Thanks Jill, I'll check.(Did you see.? No "how to's in my Plumie article...it just sort of followed a different tangent...)

    critterologist

    critterologist
    Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)

    September 20, 2007 2:06 AM

    Post #3995403

    I *loved* your plumie article! I'm hoping my lone plumie keeps growing and makes it through the winter... I'm trying to get some "how to" experience!
    Islandshari
    Kwajalein
    Marshall Islands (Zone 11)

    September 20, 2007 2:22 AM

    Post #3995486

    Just don't let it get cold, and it should be fine...then in the spring you can show us all your wonderful blossoms!
    gloria125
    Greensboro, AL

    September 20, 2007 11:41 AM

    Post #3996320

    Islandshari: You must be able to grow so many things that we can't grow. But you probably could force some mini daffs on a patio --just for nostalgia's sake.
    Islandshari
    Kwajalein
    Marshall Islands (Zone 11)

    September 21, 2007 1:21 AM

    Post #3999452

    I have thought about it, Gloria. But as you said, they are best when you can see hundreds at a time! Thanks for the trip down memory lane!

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