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Texasgal77 Baytown, TX (Zone 9a)
September 21, 2007 09:33 PM Post #4003682
| I bought a papaya from the grocery store today. I love papaya but I actually bought it for the seeds. The last time I bought one, years ago, there were several seeds in it. Today there was one lonely little seed in the papaya. I will plant it, but I would have liked to have more chances for germination. I guess I will have to go buy another papaya!
How long do the seeds have to dry out...what do I need to do for it to germinate?
Thanks! |
Islandshari Kwajalein Marshall Islands (Zone 11)
September 21, 2007 10:46 PM Post #4003912
| One seed!!?? I've never seen that! Ours have hundreds of little black seeds! One - I'm stunned... |
Braveheartsmom Kihei, HI (Zone 11)
September 22, 2007 02:20 AM Post #4004356
| Ours have tons too, except the red fleshed papaya which seem to have fewer - but more than one!
I haven't planted any papaya, the birds do more than enough for us. They even sprout from falling onto the ground from the tree. I think you have to dry them out for a couple of days until the gelatinous stuff is gone and probably plant them in warm soil like we have here...
I haven't got any ripe ones at the moment, but can send you some seeds next time we pick...
Aloha! |
chrissy100 Sydney Australia
September 22, 2007 03:20 AM Post #4004393
| That is really strange 77 ...they usually have heaps...go get some more...try a different type...perhaps the one you bought was a sterile hybrid...like my persimmons.How are you ?...you know ging into fall there it may be no good trying to do the seed thing with the papaya...usually you put them in so that they can have a good warm season...they love living near bricks and seem to thrive near the air conditioning outlets ( maybe the water dripping out and the warm motor going. Good luck ...chrissy:) |
Texasgal77 Baytown, TX (Zone 9a)
September 22, 2007 02:47 PM Post #4005536
| OK...thanks Ladies...I thought it was just me. But I thought for sure I remembered them having LOTS of seeds! Surprise!
Shari, this all goes back to your recommendation of planting a papaya tree...LOL
(Back on the other thread...)
BHM, that would be great...I would love some of your seeds! Any seeds!
Chrissy, I've really been struggling to get my strength back! We had been on the go taking my Mom to the Dr. that I was at a real low when the flare hit. Now it is just taking so long to start feeling better. It just takes time...can't rush it.
Patience...and that is so hard when there are things that need to be done!
God is good everyday...and day by day each will be better! |
chrissy100 Sydney Australia
September 22, 2007 08:21 PM Post #4006456
| "this too shall pass"...a big big (((HUG)))) |
LouC Desoto, TX (Zone 8a)
September 23, 2007 11:15 AM Post #4008086
| Looks as though we are going to have to encourage Shari to read the Texas Posts. Don't think she lurks here very much.
Never considered that the ground is warmer around the AC unit. Explains why the Japanese Maple closest to it is struggling. |
chrissy100 Sydney Australia
September 23, 2007 04:40 PM Post #4009125
| What I have noticed ...when people from tropical climates come to live here ...they plant their mangoes and papaya in positions near the air con and the brick... these trees are in fruit even in the winter...the air con drips warm water into the ground as well as the warm moter running all the time...just a thought...how long does the warm weather continue for you there...don't forget that even if the days are hot...it is the night temp that dictates the tenderness of the tropicals. |
Islandshari Kwajalein Marshall Islands (Zone 11)
September 23, 2007 05:43 PM Post #4009292
| I'm here Christ Lou!! I just have been real busy the last couple of days. But your post confused me...you are in Tropical Gardening not Texas...maybe I misunderstood.
I too can send you some Papaya seeds 77**! Just let me know if you want me too. I'll need to get them good and dry so they don't mold up on the way...no problema. Hope you feel better and better. |
LouC Desoto, TX (Zone 8a)
September 23, 2007 07:35 PM Post #4009618
| Chrissy has been visiting. Don't know which Texas thang. Called out ...oooowwwShari...
you were still in the islands. Very difficult to keep all these things separated. Texas has been going great guns...come on over... |
Islandshari Kwajalein Marshall Islands (Zone 11)
September 23, 2007 09:48 PM Post #4010140
| Okey Dokey...on my way! |
Texasgal77 Baytown, TX (Zone 9a)
September 24, 2007 01:00 AM Post #4010657
| Hi Folks! Thanks for the hugs and well wishes! It is sincerely appreciated.
Had to go to the store for a few things so picked up another papaya, and guess what! Wa-La...lots of seeds! They are drying on the patio! I will probably start them in little pots and then transfer to a bigger one until I figure out where to put it. My son reminded me that where I had planned to put it is on an easement, so not a good idea.
I've also been having computer problems. DG would not load! Dearest Son (my personal tech) cleaned out some areas for me, defragged, so now we are back in business!
Chrissy, we usually have nice weather until Jan and Feb. It gets cold then and last year we had about four freezes that got down to 28 F for at least four hours each in the night. I have a canopy that I have canvas on that I zip up. I bring the plumies and tender things in there during the winter.
We will probably have to move a banana tree to put it over there by the AC unit. next spring. Not a problem. Son already said he would. |
chrissy100 Sydney Australia
September 24, 2007 04:43 AM Post #4010783
| Great!...yes the daves garden thing has been a bit hard to deal with today dropping out a lot ...not coming in...oh well ...good luck with the seeds I didn't even dry mine ...just shoved them straight in...like most of the seeds I grow...in a warmish place ...with a little bit of dappled shade if the sun is fierce...just until they sprout...usually pretty quickly ...don't forget though you need boys and girls to make the fruit. |
Texasgal77 Baytown, TX (Zone 9a)
September 26, 2007 11:13 PM Post #4021669
| After putting the seeds in the ground, and they sprout, as seedlings is there a way to tell which is which? I have a limited amount of space. It looks like they can get really tall. How can I determine which is which? So far from the research it only showed each as a mature plant. |
Braveheartsmom Kihei, HI (Zone 11)
September 27, 2007 01:46 AM Post #4022043
| You can't tell until they flower... |
chrissy100 Sydney Australia
September 27, 2007 03:48 AM Post #4022117
| yes the boys have a different flower ...and I can't remember which is which but one sex grows a lot quicker than the other.
We have plants in the nursery that are bi sexual but I am pretty sure that just means a boy piece and a girl piece are grown on the one stem.
You are going to have fun :) |
chrissy100 Sydney Australia
September 27, 2007 04:57 PM Post #4024427
| I hope you have a great time over the next few days with all of your little folk visiting ...don't wear yourself out!
We are having a huge weekend here too! BIG family thing as well..
bigger than Ben Hur!
Have a great weekend everyone!!! |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
September 27, 2007 07:45 PM Post #4024913
| I wrote a "Papaya 101 my experiences"
Let me know if you can't go to the link and I'll just post it in the thread. Scroll down to Papaya 101, it has step by step ..how to do the seeds and all that jazz.
http://davesgarden.com/tools/blog/index.php?tabid=1993
I have sooooooo many seeds ...that one papaya a few years ago grew into MANY trees with so many papayas..that they are growing wild in the garden now as I had to just let the fruit drop to the ground. They were very sweet tasting, and must be a hybrid as they don't subscribe to the male, female rolls. Every tree produces Papaya.
This year was not a good year for papayas..too much rain, although I do have a tree growing some now..
Good luck..
Rj |
ByndeweedBeth scio, oregon, OR (Zone 8a)
September 27, 2007 07:48 PM Post #4024919
| Your link just says "access denied" |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
September 27, 2007 07:56 PM Post #4024938
| Okay...How about if I post a thread? |
pepper23 KC Metro area, MO (Zone 5b)
September 27, 2007 08:28 PM Post #4025052
| Link to the new papaya 101 thread.
http://www.davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/775081/ |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
September 27, 2007 09:13 PM Post #4025197
| oh...thanks..!! ya'll are fast!
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tetleytuna Columbia, MO (Zone 5b)
September 27, 2007 09:19 PM Post #4025217
| Found the new thread. Thanks for the link Pepper and the info RJH! |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
September 27, 2007 09:21 PM Post #4025226
| Your welcome! |
Islandshari Kwajalein Marshall Islands (Zone 11)
September 27, 2007 09:23 PM Post #4025234
| Wow Randy! What an absolutely fantastic Papaya education! I read every word, and was fascinated. Great info to pass along, and so generous of you to take the time to do so! Thank you! |
Texasgal77 Baytown, TX (Zone 9a)
September 28, 2007 12:07 AM Post #4025776
| Randy, thank you so much for the lesson! It is sincerely appreciated!
You have done a fantastic job! The papaya I bought looks like the one from your tree! I have the seeds drying now. I think I will keep them in pots for quite awhile.
I will have to get some of that fertilizer. You definately can tell a difference! Sounds great!
Again, thanks! |
chrissy100 Sydney Australia
September 28, 2007 09:16 AM Post #4026469
| Yes fantastic thread r...I have seen something somewhere ...that says that once they reah a comfotable height ...(so you can pick them ) the lead is cut and an upturned can is placed over the cut ...to keep the rain out...this article said that it cause a lot more fruit to be set as it branched a lot more (sort of like pruning)...have you heard of such a thing?...yours are so good it isn't a problem with you...but it might help others.
77... I hope you get your papayas :)
r... as shari said very good of you to share your experience with us :) |
Braveheartsmom Kihei, HI (Zone 11)
September 28, 2007 10:56 AM Post #4026825
| Yes Chrissy, we do that with our papaya here in Hawaii. Papaya rot easily hence the can or bucket, as you say... |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
September 28, 2007 03:39 PM Post #4027828
| Yes I've also done that, but I used a wine cork to plug the holes...I think I will try the cans next time. I've had to cut a few from the freeze last year and about half of them survived me cutting them. Some I think I pulled out of the ground prematurely, and it even looked like the root went dormant for half the summer as it was still nice and firm. I just had way too many other plants going on to take that experiment further.
If there is a side to error on, it should be to keep the trees on the dry side.
Your welcome, and if you need seeds, I have plenty.
Rj |
Islandshari Kwajalein Marshall Islands (Zone 11)
September 28, 2007 09:22 PM Post #4028939
| Randy...I'll be in Houston on November 14th to pick up my seeds...ha ha! Want to try that hermaphodite...we have so few pollinators on this little rock that the boy/girl thing can get tricky! |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
September 29, 2007 04:46 AM Post #4029812
| Copy that...sure ya can't stay a day!? |
Islandshari Kwajalein Marshall Islands (Zone 11)
September 29, 2007 05:02 PM Post #4031347
| I wish! There are so many dg folks I'd like to "meet"...spending the day with Christi and Mike...hopefully we will see you too. Then up to Colorado...so little time, so many visits! |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
September 30, 2007 10:13 AM Post #4033185
| Really? I just got back from Colorado Springs at the beginning of the month. My Brother, his new wife Xiou Wen and my (getting taller than me) nephews.
Keep me posted, I'm sure you will be in great demand, but if it's in the cards I'd drive wherever to meet you. |
LouC Desoto, TX (Zone 8a)
September 30, 2007 10:31 AM Post #4033242
| We are driving from Dallas...now what does that tell you about Shari? |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
September 30, 2007 10:43 AM Post #4033287
| Right.? Popular gal, but it's easy to see why!..where exactly is she going...Lubbock? |
LouC Desoto, TX (Zone 8a)
September 30, 2007 10:44 AM Post #4033291
| You've been lurking somewhere... |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
September 30, 2007 10:49 AM Post #4033308
| I've been on the Aussie thread, the underwater thread...I posted the Papaya 101 and the Australian Fern tree tricks I learned. |
LouC Desoto, TX (Zone 8a)
September 30, 2007 11:06 AM Post #4033366
| Was referring to the Lubbock comment... |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
September 30, 2007 11:25 AM Post #4033435
| hahahahhahahahhahahahahaha...zooom...right on over my formerly blonde now graying head...
she made a Lubbock comment just a couple of days ago...then she said..woops, I might have offended all of the Texans...see that stuck in my mind...LOL |
Islandshari Kwajalein Marshall Islands (Zone 11)
September 30, 2007 06:47 PM Post #4034698
| You guys are so silly! Randy - I get into the States on the 9th and head down to Brownsville to visit with my folks. Then JB and I are meeting up with Christi and Mike on the 14th...I'll be there most of the day. Don't know about all the "popular" comments - I'm just thrilled I get some LouC hugs in person! Would love to meet up with you somewhere! |
LouC Desoto, TX (Zone 8a)
September 30, 2007 09:01 PM Post #4035109
| I know what...we can all go to Randy's for brunch with mimosa's. |
Islandshari Kwajalein Marshall Islands (Zone 11)
September 30, 2007 09:43 PM Post #4035262
| Ooooooh! I like it, I like it!!! |
LouC Desoto, TX (Zone 8a)
September 30, 2007 09:55 PM Post #4035339
| So, rj. Where are you????? |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
October 01, 2007 03:20 AM Post #4035945
| Buying champagne! great idea !
arggh..I have training class this morning. |
LouC Desoto, TX (Zone 8a)
October 01, 2007 11:27 AM Post #4036764
| what are you training to be? |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
October 01, 2007 11:53 AM Post #4036849
| It is recurrent Weight and Balance. I do weight and balance for Continental at our headquarters in Houston. |
LouC Desoto, TX (Zone 8a)
October 01, 2007 11:56 AM Post #4036858
| There are so very many things one would never even think about in this world. If it is not classified or something...might start a thread explaining just what that is. I can make something up right quick but sure the real definition would be better. Thanks |
Islandshari Kwajalein Marshall Islands (Zone 11)
October 01, 2007 04:41 PM Post #4037828
| I'm overweight and out of balance...can I take your class? |
LouC Desoto, TX (Zone 8a)
October 01, 2007 06:11 PM Post #4038130
| hahahaha..me, too. |
Texasgal77 Baytown, TX (Zone 9a)
October 01, 2007 07:37 PM Post #4038405
| haha me too! Pleease! |
chrissy100 Sydney Australia
October 01, 2007 08:14 PM Post #4038521
| Ha ha ha come and mow my weeds for me that will fix you all up !!!
it's free I won't even charge anything :) |
KaperC No. San Diego Co., CA (Zone 10b)
October 01, 2007 08:42 PM Post #4038671
| Chrissy, you sound like our friends we visited yesterday. We went to their ranch and picked grapes with a bunch of other friends. They feed everyone and send them home with some wine (their grapes go to a local vintner for production). It was great fun. |
chrissy100 Sydney Australia
October 01, 2007 09:01 PM Post #4038753
| Ha ha ha you can come and pick my grapes when they are in season too!...around January...my grapes are very special ...they are strawberry grapes...you would love them ! |
Braveheartsmom Kihei, HI (Zone 11)
October 01, 2007 09:04 PM Post #4038769
| Weights and balance - sounds like mathmatics to me - shudder! |
Texasgal77 Baytown, TX (Zone 9a)
October 01, 2007 09:26 PM Post #4038868
| Do you make strawberry grape jam? I'll be over...let's see January, huh? |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
October 01, 2007 09:37 PM Post #4038917
| Then we would call it a weight restriction and tell you to click your heels together 3 times and get home the best way you can!
I know...if someone would have told me my career would have been math oriented, I would have laughed so hard I would be unbalanced, slipping to the floor in fits of laughter! |