To answer the question in the prior thread about how to tell when glass color is real or painted on - just look into the neck of the bottle or vase - if the bottom is clear, instead of red or blue, it is painted. It IS harder to tell w/ things like plates which will be completely painted - so the scratch test would be the way to go.
Wuvie, I hope you were wearing heavy gloves while fishing around that bin for those pieces of glass!
I have a question about doing rocks in the tumblers... Do I need to buy the $10 assortment of special abrasives, or can I use alternative things for the different size grades of particles -- maybe coarse sand followed by play sand followed by, oh I don't know, baking soda?
Oh, I'm having a grand time on the frogs right now. We have a large
man made box-shaped pond FILLED with frogs who decided they
wanted to live with us. So I tossed a great heap of water lettuce into
the box, the rain filled it with several inches of water, and the U-Hauls
began to arrive.
As for the gloves, most definitely. I sat in the recycling bin for a long
time picking, picking, picking. It was such fun. The entire pile of it was
poured on a piece of carpet in the garage, then I sat on the ground picking
one piece at a time, organizing it piece by piece according to color
With regard to the rocks, I haven't spent a lot of time doing those, but
if they were just common rocks out of the driveway, simple sand will
do a lot. If you are tumbling semi-precious gems and other nice stones,
I would definitely follow the directions and use the grits as advised.
Many rocks in our area are high in sand content, so they tumble pretty easy.
For the fun of it, sticks - literally sticks, broken branches were put into the
tumbler for a week. The result? Very round-ended smooth beautiful pieces
of wood perfect for a terrarium or lizard / frog tank.
I'll tumble anything once. Twice if it turns out well. LOL.
Thumbnail is of the meat trays used to separate the glass.
We have a family of frogs that moved into our little dump find pond... The Cleavers... Ward, June, Wally, and The Beaver. Not sure what they are going to do when the winter comes, as there is not enough mud in the bottom to winter in. Thinking of capturing them and taking them to a bigger pond but sure will miss them next year... we'll probably get Eddie Haskell moving in!
Okay, just looking for some opinions. DH brought some of this material home from work. Does it sound okay to use in the tumbler for glass?
Starblast™ is a high-efficiency, low-dusting, low-free-silica blasting abrasive. It is a naturally occurring mineral sand mined in Florida. Starblast™ excels at removing mill scale and rust from new steel and is highly effective in removing paints and coatings from most surfaces.
Any thoughts on if it may damage the roller? Hmmmmm.
Celia, does the roller come into contact with anything on the inside of the tumbler? If not, there is no reason the starblast should damage it. On my first batch I used some white silica sand and it did OK, but seemed too fine to really give me the frosted look I wanted. I am using plain old builders sand from Home Depot on this batch to see if I like it better. I would say to use it and see what you think. After all that is part of the fun of this new (at least to me) hobby! Let us know how it goes.
Do we have any collective advice or wisdom about using a diamond drill bit to make holes in some of this great stuff??? I am thinking "earrings" or "pendant" - depending upon the generalized outcome of efforts. I have a little Dremel - which I have NEVER used for ANYTHING. I think it is time!!!!!!!!
I think I remember seeing something somewhere about putting glass objects in a small amount of water to keep them from breaking while being drilled. Somehow I would be afraid to try that --- the old electricity and water do not mix thing. An idea that might be worth trying is to put a peice of the grey duct tape over it and drill through that. You can use duct tape of almost anything you know...
Well, it's started! I broke up a blue bottle. I found myself unsure about the sizes and shapes. I'll check it tomorrow night to see how they're doing. If not much happening, I'll get some coarser sand.
Darius, dear. I'm sorry to tell you, that having two tumblers is
not allowed. Box one up immediately and send it my way.
Heh heh. Just kidding. Lucky you!
Celia, that sounds fantastic! I would definitely give it a try, you
may be very impressed after just a day. If you try, please post
your results. We may put your hubby in business! Have fun with
Wannadance, definitely fun to drill holes in. The drawback is
deciding when to drill. If you drill before tumbling, the glass may
wear down during the process, bringing the hole close to the edge.
Generally not a problem, though, if you allow for tumbling decrease
when you place the hole. If you drill afterwards, just take your time and
go slow, or you could break the piece you spent days tumbling. :-)
Diamond bits indeed.
We have a nifty table top drill (another Harbor Freight goodie) which I
use for drilling everything. A deep dish, such as a meat tray, with a block
of wood to bring the piece up to the bit yet still keep the glass underwater
is the method I prefer. The piece must be in water to keep it cool. Go
very slowly and don't force the drill, let the drill do the work and whistle
while you wait.
Hmm, it never came up at that price for me last week... same SKU. Maybe I'll call them tomorrow and see what's up. The single barrel tumbler (the 3 lb. one) is still on sale at $19.99. But for half again as much, I'd rather have two barrels!
And if I miss it, I'm fine with waiting a bit on this project... I figured they had sales pretty regularly. I signed up for their email notification. :-)
I use a Dremel with a diamond drill bit (you can get a box of 20 I think it is for around $8.00 at where else HF).
I have a small tub with water & thick chunk of Styrofoam keep water over the glass . Every now and then pick up the drill so water can get into the hole.
Don't push let the drill do the work .. Yes its slow going :-)
I wouldn't say I am 'joining" this thread, but I have been following it all along. I "lurk" on a lot of Threads. I am forever fascinated about all that people do here. SO much talent! Especially YOU, Bettypauze, Lizrainy, etc. Just amazing!
I am no "toadstool" in the craft area myself, just don't have the time and commitment to assume yet another craft project. I only have about 99 unfinished ones all throughout the house. Mostly small crafts, but I could do anything if I set my heart to it--almost...as long as it does not involve major tools and mechanical equipment...:o)
I love the "sea glass". I am fascinated, that's why I wanted to know what HF was.
Thanks for the locations info. here. The Waltham Woods one is only about 15 min. from my house. I will check it out. I think it may be in the shopping center there...
Just checked the results after 1 day. The pieces are very smooth. They're a pretty cobalt blue. I rinsed them and added more Starblast. I'll wait until Saturday to check again. Now to think of what to do with it!
I have NO idea what a Hibiscus cyriacus is. Not familiar with botanical names on anything. This one is a Kopper King H.
In my picture, I am standing behind the blooms (second ones--i cut the plant back) of my Kopper King Hibiscus. This plant totally surprised me by growing to 6' tall. When all the first wave of blooms were done, i cut the tops back. It re-grew and bloomed a second time.
The bummer is--not a ONE seed pod! None! Must be a hybrid.
Of course, this has NOTHING to do with faux sea Glass...so i will not go any further..
By the way, I drove by the Waltham Woods HF store and popped in to pick up a brochure. It is filled with mostly tools and such.
thanks, Deni! Hopefully they'll let me know via email now too, since I've signed up. I was all set to order the single one (still on sale), but the more I thought about that double barreled one... LOL!
Gita, your gorgeous 'Kopper King' is a hardy hibiscus, H. moscheutos. Rose of Sharon are a different species, H. syriacus. I had to learn the difference when I was trading seeds a couple of years ago, so that I knew what I was growing. :-) They have different leaves, and Rose of Sharon generally has smaller blooms. My H. moscheutos that bloomed this year had flowers the size of luncheon plates! And yes, I think 'KK' is a hybrid... I might try prop'ing mine from dormant cuttings this fall.
OK, back on topic... who has some beautiful freshly tumbled glass for us to oooooohhh over??
Wuvie, can you not grow H. moscheutos there? I figure if it's hardy for me, it should be hardy for you... I really love 'KK' for its purplish foliage as well as its blooms, and I've also got 'Southern Belle' and 'Plum Crazy' in my garden. I do have some seed-grown H. syriacus also, and one of the older ones had its first blooms (lavender) this summer!
Ok IM really getting off track here I tried to grow lavender this year .. I thought I did everything right .. Have been told anyone can grow lavender ..
Well not me .. it turned to sticks in a week .. Help I really love lavender how do you grow it
Cheryl, lavender doesn't like acidic soil or "wet feet." Excellent drainage, a dose of lime, and a mulch of pea gravel or sand (reflects heat back up into the foliage to help keep it dry) may help. It's a challenge to grow lavender in hot, humid climates. DeBaggio's site has some good tips on growing lavender, see http://www.debaggioherbs.com/growingtips.php#About%20Our%20Lavender.
Hi critter, oh, yes, we can grow Hibiscus, but I'm just afraid
of what might happen if I bring just one home. You know, the
Oh, ladies, I'm no guru, LOL. If you like the look and it is not
sharp, it's done. :-) You can tumble it to your heart's content,
but if your sand has dissipated you won't get very far. Based
on the edges of your glass, it appears it didn't round well, so
you may be right in the abrasive thought. Are you using common
sand? You might try letting the tumbler go for two days, then
check it. If the grit is tumbled out, you'll need something a bit
After five days, it should be a bit more round on the edges.
(don't mean to dash your spirits at all, Celia) :-)
Oh nooooo... spirits are not dashed! LOL! I'm going back to HF this afternoon for another tumbler!!! I'm also signing up for a jewelry making class! I'm hooked! I don't think I can wait till tomorrow to check them again. I'll post a pic of the blue glass tonight. They will have been in the tumbler for 2 days. I'm lovin' it!!!!!
It is fun to watch the results from the tumbling ... and to reflect on what I might have expected. In other words - a bottle neck not broken apart first will still look like a bottle neck!!! That is OK if that is what you want. I have the bottoms of several wine glasses - all from accidental breakage. The round base and stem really DO need to be broken the rest of the way.
Perhaps you have already commented on this - but because my cranial marbles tend to run out the side of my head, I will ask - are there "gentler" ways to break this glass than to use a hammer??? Someplace I have a tile cutter - if I find it, can it be used to remove those wine glass stems? When I use the hammer there is a LOT of shattered small pieces. I DO put the glass into a canvas bag first so as to avoid being lacerated by flying shards!
Celia, glad you are enjoying it so much. A jewelry class, indeed!
Wanna, oh, yes, a tile cutter is a good thing! A wheeled tile cutter is
even better, but a nipper makes for some interesting shapes as well.
I like the wheeled cutters because they are handy for all sorts of things.
Dahtzu, wow! You not only have been dumpster diving, you
scored, lady! No tools? Oh, my, we will have to send you back to
Harbor Freight, LOL.
At least a hammer and a pair of safety glasses are required. You'll
have to be very careful about smashing the glass, though, as it does
fly. Be sure to break the glass where it cannot create a flat tire on any
of your vehicles or where children might play.
While wheeled nippers and tile nippers are very handy, and they do
control the cuts better, you still have the possibility of flying pieces, so
do be careful no matter what you use.
Also, remember that beer and soda bottles are often thinner on the sides
and so the glass pieces will be thinner. Champagne bottles are a great
score because the glass is so thick, but must be smashed well to break up.
While right off hand, I can't see exactly what you have there, it appears you
have a lot of great finds! You might try to identify some of them before breaking
them, just in case you come across an antique bottle. :-)
Many of my bottles will never see a hammer because they are so unique
IT"S HERE IT"S HERE !!!!!
UPS must have brought it last night .. (they dont come to the house We have a Big UPS Box out at the Gate )
I have it filled & running Green & Clear glass I had to do a little handy work befor it would work .. the motor was to far to one side and the fan was stuck on the side. Then when I got it to move it was hitting the side WHAT A RACKET... but its working on ..
Did everyone get a extra belt with your tumbler????
will do the first check tomorrow.
Also slumping bottles & a tempered glass bowl today ...
So much to do ...lol
A wheeled tile cutter !!! Yes I see this is a must have }:>
dahtzu, You did score big the wanted BLUE Bottles Great find !!!
Well My first shot at the tempered slumped bowl cracked in the middle .. Ill try it again when all cools ... Ill post when & if it works .. The girl I got my first tG from told me she wanted her window back ...lol so this one was for her.
Thanks everyone. Now to find a Harbor Freight. Would you believe I have never heard of it? What do you do with tumbled glass? I'm off to yard sales tomorrow and good thing Hubby knows what a tumbler looks like, he will be looking for me. Something else I don't know...gosh, I know absolutely nothing about any of the tools you ladies are talking about. Hope I live long enough to learn..
Thanks a bunch for any help.
I put some more broken glass ( Ice 101) bottle into my new tumbler tonight. I"m not sure what I will do with all this tumbled glass. You guys have got me started on something. I'm thinking Christmas presents...jewelry...candles..or. something. The sky is the limit now!
its Good that you thank us now :-)
After you find HF and get tumbler & tools you may want to kill us for getting you hooked on glass .LOL
Faux sea glass can lead to other things
Good luck on your garage sale trip tomorrow. Don't forget to look for cool glass too.
Exactly! As soon as my kiln element arrives.. Supposed to be shipped this week. I hope a bottle will fit in there. I think it will be close but haven't really checked. How much room do you need around something in the kiln? I am checking craigslist fairly often to see if a bigger kiln crops up that I can afford. So far they haven't been below $1000 and not in the general area. You have to be careful moving a kiln, as I remember.
There is someone on craigslist selling the contents of a stained glass shop for $650 OMG! Tons of glass, tools, and forms... If we didn't need a new roof I'd be lobbying DH for that purchase for sure.. despite the 4+ hour round trip.
wannadanc, I saw a TV show where a man had created a long bed (maybe 5x10?), making it look like rivers, lakes and mountains from his native homeland, using many colors of glass gravel. It was awesome.
I was thinking that same thing just yesterday, about a giant tumbler! Thought I'd get my father the mechanical genius working on that. Maybe I'll just stick to that dual tumbler in HF.. as it is my head is like a lava dome ready to explode with all the ideas rattling around and no time to do any of them.. frustration is not even the word!! I need a brownie :-(
OK folks, I've been lurking long enough here. I paid about $75 for 50 lbs of recycled tumbled blue glass a few years ago. I've used it for container mulch and in my fountain (mistake---it got full of crud all the time and had to be "washed"). Now I plan to use some of it at the base of my rain chains on top of gravel that will fill the drainage channel. I treat this stuff like it was solid gold because it was so darned expensive---now I can make my own! I HAVE a cement mixer! I also have a rock tumbler, but before I can use it, I'll have to remove the last batch of rocks I started and abandoned---probably about 3 years ago...sigh.
I love that I'm not the only one buying beverages---adult or otherwise---strictly for the color of the bottles. BTW, Arizona Iced Tea has (or at least had) one flavor in blue bottles. It's hard to tell when they're sitting on the shelf because they don't look blue with the iced tea in them, but it's "our" cobalt blue! It's the "Iced Tea with Ginseng Extract". Been a while since I bought any because I had to figure out what I was going to do with all those bottles before I bought more (clearly, now I have). Hopefully they haven't changed the packaging!
I'm looking for turquoise bottles, too, and the only thing I've found is gin, and it took me 2 years to empty one of them!
Here's an "inspiration" picture I took recently (not my plant, unfortunately). I think all of your tumbled-glass pictures look nicer than this glass, but it's still pretty!
I have never been to a garage sale in my life. Never, ever ever. I have nothing against garage sales, and I know people who find them great sport. But I've never found the time or patience to indulge in the adventure myself. I am actually hestitating with my fingers poised over the keyboard. Why do I find this so embarrassing?
I have never been to a garage sale in my life. This morning I went to 8 of them.
Lala! You go gurrrrlll. Eight all in one day - I think you've got the fever.. I am sitting here channeling Brenda Lee snapping my fingers and singing..."Fever!... fever in the morning ..And fever all through the night..."
The more apt question might be who has NOT sung Fever? I think just about every artist under the sun has sung it at one time or another (including me although my artistic ability might be questioned by some :P ) And you will REALLY (I suppose I ought to learn how to do bolding and italics so I can stop with the screaming caps) have to excuse my punchiness as I've been up since 9:00...yesterday. Friday nights are usually all-nighters for me...so many garage sales, so little time.
Peggy Lee's album with that song on it was DH's first record purchase...I always thought she was so sexy---guess he did too.
Garage sales & thrift stores and thrift stores and garage sales...I'm trying desperately to stay away since we cleaned out my MIL's house this year. But this tumbled glass is VERY FUNCTIONAL!
You have to be careful moving a kiln, as I remember.`
Take pillows & blankets stuff in the kiln to bring it home . Oh tie downs too over the top, a blanket around the out side too then a tiedown strap but not to tight ...
Cheryl: Bombay gin is the one...too bad I don't like the taste more more...or IS it? LOL~~ I love the "Wall of Daisies"!
Lala I'm trying hard not to look too closely at your picture...I've been taking aspirin for my "fever" and it's BROKEN! HAHAHA! Have a smashing good time! Can't wait to see what you make/do with your pieces.
Tetley - yes, I wondered about that!!!! It bothers me to evem have this little tumbler running 24/7 ... I just don't do that w/ very many things. Maybe being solo will prove to have one more perc - no one to give me grief about the power bill...LMAO.
Hi everyone, just found this, http://www.agatehouse.co.uk/lapid2.htm home made tumbler thought you all may like a look. all this glass posted on here ,very nice . what are you all going to use it for? im still thinking what im going too do with mine.ok off to bed its gone 3am 3.42am catch you all laters bye.
Karen I was so determined to not mention the smashing part when I bought my new treasures. I should imagine it would be a bit disconcerting to some folks to know that Aunt Marguarite's favorite vase was about to become fodder for my hammer, so I reminded myself to keep my comments to myself. But wouldn't you know that at my very first sale I dropped one of my bargains right there on the garage floor? And in my embarrassment the first thing out of my mouth was, "well that's just one I won't have to bother smashing later on." Real nice La. And that little faux pas only slightly surpasses the comment I made at my final stop when the lady started meticulously wrapping the little juice glasses for me. I believe I mentioned that I've never done garage sales primarily because I don't have the patience for it? Well I was in a hurry to get going and I displayed that impatience quite nicely as I handed the lady my $1.20 and blurted out, "it's OK if they bang together I'm just going to smash them up anyway." Ah yes, a brilliant display of tact if I ever saw one.
Oh ho tetley! I've already got stops at the 3 local thrift shops on my agenda for next week. And pigeon? You have a much stronger immune system than I if a couple of aspirin is all it takes to break the fever. Apparently my desire to break the glass is much stronger than my desire to break the fever so I guess I'm truly hooked. Will somebody please keep me in the loop when the double barrel tumbler goes on sale? ;-)
Now. Would anybody care to join me for a glass of wine?
"little tumbler running 24/7 ... I just don't do that w/ very many things"
You & me both sister .. Im always telling everyone to turn things off ...lol
Hubby even asked me if I was really going to let it run 24/7 ...
He couldn't believe it ...
But when things are running in my glass shop I never think about the elect bill ...
(kilns, solder iron, etc.) Just told him thats why you have to turn the lights off in the House ...LOL
caro, I wonder where they are getting the barrels,
Lala.. Just how is that Blue Bottled wine :-)
Well im off to check my little tumbler ...Y'All have a great day
Well I went down to check the tumblers ... And the belt had snaped ... all that time running for nothing :-(
Guess ill be calling HF in the morning to see if they will send a new belt ..
has anyone had to deal with this ?
Good thing I ordered one
Oh, everyone, I was so happy when I visited this thread for the day!
Lala, I'll drink with you as I mention my goof. One year at a yard sale,
I bought bags full of clothing, all sorts, all sizes, all colors - for a buck or two.
The lady commented that there were so many bright colors in there. I replied
something along the lines of "Oh yes, I can't wait to cut these up, I'm going
to make rag rugs with them." She replied the clothes belonged to here mother,
who had recently passed.
Cough. Sputter. Choke.
For those concerned with the tumbler, I once figured the cost out, at
least based on my little Rolling Stones brand. It was so insignificant that
I haven't thought much about it since. If you think about it, a blow dryer, at
least mine, is 1500 watts, while the small rock tumbler is 10 watts.
Caro, wow, what a time difference! Get your behind to bed, young lady! ;-)
We will definitely keep everyone in the loop for the barrels as they go on
sale at HF. I receive emails of their sale ads, so I'll watch it like a hawk.
What a great link for the super tumbler, thanks, Caro!
Happy Autumn, everyone!
(thumbnail is of hubby and two of our Castor Bean plants)
Karen thanks for the power break down. mostly hubby just likes to give me a hard time about all my glass toys running up the elect .. the shop has a different meater then the house so I know just how much it cost me to play ...even the kilns dont run that much...lol
I was wondering what you did with castor beans.
We have been growing castor beans for many years now. Can't
get enough of them. We don't really do much with them other than
stand in awe at the sizes they grow in such a short time. By the first
frost, they are nothing more than spinach on a stick. We've never
experienced a perennial, they always die.
It gives passers-by something to stop and back up about. They are
also superb for, as wannadanc mentioned, hypertuffa and concrete art.
Castor beans are extremely poisonous - contain ricin - so consideration of the little people around is advised as the seeds are very attractive.
One year some students gave me a huge one from the local nursery - a thank-you gift - LOL. Nursery didn't KNOW the plant - I did. They are SO gorgeous ...maybe I will try it again. I did get some leaf impressions from one plant back when.
If the seed is swallowed without chewing, and there is no damage to the seed coat, it will most likely pass harmlessly through the digestive tract. However, if it is chewed or broken and then swallowed, the ricin toxin will be absorbed by the intestines.
It is said that just one seed can kill a child. Children are more sensitive than adults to fluid loss due to vomiting and diarrhea, and can quickly become severely dehydrated and die.
Castor bean plants in a garden should not be allowed to flower and seed.
Indeed they are poisonous. One should exercise caution with Castor
Bean the same way they should with many other plants.
Including, but not limited to Autumn Crocus, Brugmansia, Bittersweet,
Hyacinth, Narcissus, Daffodil, Oleander, Dieffenbachia, Elephant Ear,
Rosary Pea, Larkspur, Monkshood, Autumn Crocus, Star of Bethlehem, Lily-of-the-Valley, Iris, Foxglove, Bleeding Heart, Rhubarb, Daphne, Wisteria,
Golden Chain, Laurels, Rhododendrons, Azaleas, Jasmine, Lantana Camara,
Yew, some cherries, some oaks, Elderberry, Black Locust, Jack in the
Pulpit, Moonseed, Mayapple, Mistletoe, Water Hemlock, Buttercups,
Nightshade, Poison Hemlock, Jimsonweed.
Just to name a few.
Caladiums, Darnel, Daphne, Horse Chestnut, Privet. Taking breath,
but far from done.
Cutting off the flower stalk on a Castor bean will prevent seeds.
Lovely plants which will always have a home in my garden. :-)
I agree 100% about all you have said there, Wuvie. There are many many poisonous plants...even the eyes and leaves of our beloved potatoes. Some have received more attention than others -Ricin was used in the 1978 assassination of Bulgarian dissident Georgi Markov. I found that entire business fascinating, albeit horrific.
In any event - I certainly didn't have any evil intent in bringing up the subject - love the plant - love MANY of the ones on your list. Wish I could convince some of the herbivores around here to sample the castor bean - might cut down on the unwelcome grazing. Slugs would be the first I would invite!!!!!!!
Hi all , Denimangle you can make your own barrels for a home made tumbler 4inch down pipe just cut to size ,buy the end caps and you have a barrel.
Wuvie, i dont know anything about plants,only plants i have are aloe- vera-barbadensis.which i grow to eat,i put a whole leaf in a blender thorns removed and add ice cream and whatever fruit i have,tastes so good.
I need more control over the shape of my glass pieces. I know this is about as Glasswork 101 as it gets, but what's the scoop with the nippers I see you all refer to? How much control will it give me and how thick (or thin) of a piece will it cut? And I'm guessing I'd go to a craft store to purchase one?
Wanna, many thanks for your clarification. In agreement about
the fascination. Isn't it bizarre what people do to one another in
the name of love (cough) or money?
We're still extremely cautious. We have three human kids and
multiple fuzzy ones who act as Hoovers, so we have to make certain
to keep the seeds covered when they are in the popping stage. Sophie
eats anything that rolls, moves or sits.