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WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 26, 2007 1:26 PM Post #4018722
| Coming from a long thread on Part 2, which was here:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/771071/
For more archival information, Part 1 was fun, too!
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/761052/
:-) I'm so excited to see so many giving this a try, and
enjoying it, too!
Thumbnail is of a huge pile of glass I acquired after fishing
in a recycling bin for a while. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
|
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 26, 2007 1:37 PM Post #4018748
| To answer the question in the prior thread about how to tell when glass color is real or painted on - just look into the neck of the bottle or vase - if the bottom is clear, instead of red or blue, it is painted. It IS harder to tell w/ things like plates which will be completely painted - so the scratch test would be the way to go. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 26, 2007 1:40 PM Post #4018760
| Whoops, my apologies, Wannadanc. :-) |
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 26, 2007 1:42 PM Post #4018765
| Wuvie - what is the apology for??? It was definitely time for a new thread. Love it, BTW |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 26, 2007 2:08 PM Post #4018820
| The thought of adding the last post to this new thread crossed
my mind, but I was sidetracked by frogs. LOL
|
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 26, 2007 2:31 PM Post #4018898
| "sidetracked by frogs"
At the risk of taking this new thread O/T so soon, I want to know about the frogs! |
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 26, 2007 2:34 PM Post #4018915
| Wuvie, I hope you were wearing heavy gloves while fishing around that bin for those pieces of glass!
I have a question about doing rocks in the tumblers... Do I need to buy the $10 assortment of special abrasives, or can I use alternative things for the different size grades of particles -- maybe coarse sand followed by play sand followed by, oh I don't know, baking soda? |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 26, 2007 2:48 PM Post #4018954
| Hi Critter,
Oh, I'm having a grand time on the frogs right now. We have a large
man made box-shaped pond FILLED with frogs who decided they
wanted to live with us. So I tossed a great heap of water lettuce into
the box, the rain filled it with several inches of water, and the U-Hauls
began to arrive.
Here is a thread where we are having froggie fun:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/774177/
As for the gloves, most definitely. I sat in the recycling bin for a long
time picking, picking, picking. It was such fun. The entire pile of it was
poured on a piece of carpet in the garage, then I sat on the ground picking
one piece at a time, organizing it piece by piece according to color
grouping.
With regard to the rocks, I haven't spent a lot of time doing those, but
if they were just common rocks out of the driveway, simple sand will
do a lot. If you are tumbling semi-precious gems and other nice stones,
I would definitely follow the directions and use the grits as advised.
Many rocks in our area are high in sand content, so they tumble pretty easy.
For the fun of it, sticks - literally sticks, broken branches were put into the
tumbler for a week. The result? Very round-ended smooth beautiful pieces
of wood perfect for a terrarium or lizard / frog tank.
I'll tumble anything once. Twice if it turns out well. LOL.
Thumbnail is of the meat trays used to separate the glass.
Click the image for an enlarged view.
|
Brender
Topsham, ME (Zone 5a)
September 26, 2007 3:00 PM Post #4019000
| We have a family of frogs that moved into our little dump find pond... The Cleavers... Ward, June, Wally, and The Beaver. Not sure what they are going to do when the winter comes, as there is not enough mud in the bottom to winter in. Thinking of capturing them and taking them to a bigger pond but sure will miss them next year... we'll probably get Eddie Haskell moving in! |
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 26, 2007 3:22 PM Post #4019072
| Thanks, Wuvie! That sound like $10 I probably don't need to spend right now, then. :-)
Brender, your frogs sound like fun, too! LOL at "the Cleavers" and "Eddie Haskell!" |
darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States (Zone 5b)
September 26, 2007 10:17 PM Post #4020531
| My TWO tumblers came today, the double 3 pound ones. I haven't the foggiest idea of what I want to tumble... most of my "finds" are still in storage. |
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 26, 2007 10:52 PM Post #4020669
| Darius, did you get those double ones on sale? I can only find the sale price on the single tumblers.
Sitting and watching things tumble sounds like a perfect activity during your recuperation! ;-) |
celia
Cleveland, OH (Zone 5b)
September 26, 2007 11:52 PM Post #4020862
| Okay, just looking for some opinions. DH brought some of this material home from work. Does it sound okay to use in the tumbler for glass?
Starblast™ is a high-efficiency, low-dusting, low-free-silica blasting abrasive. It is a naturally occurring mineral sand mined in Florida. Starblast™ excels at removing mill scale and rust from new steel and is highly effective in removing paints and coatings from most surfaces.
Any thoughts on if it may damage the roller? Hmmmmm. |
tetleytuna
Columbia, MO (Zone 5b)
September 27, 2007 12:01 AM Post #4020901
| Celia, does the roller come into contact with anything on the inside of the tumbler? If not, there is no reason the starblast should damage it. On my first batch I used some white silica sand and it did OK, but seemed too fine to really give me the frosted look I wanted. I am using plain old builders sand from Home Depot on this batch to see if I like it better. I would say to use it and see what you think. After all that is part of the fun of this new (at least to me) hobby! Let us know how it goes. |
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 27, 2007 12:15 AM Post #4020953
| Do we have any collective advice or wisdom about using a diamond drill bit to make holes in some of this great stuff??? I am thinking "earrings" or "pendant" - depending upon the generalized outcome of efforts. I have a little Dremel - which I have NEVER used for ANYTHING. I think it is time!!!!!!!! |
tetleytuna
Columbia, MO (Zone 5b)
September 27, 2007 12:18 AM Post #4020972
| I think I remember seeing something somewhere about putting glass objects in a small amount of water to keep them from breaking while being drilled. Somehow I would be afraid to try that --- the old electricity and water do not mix thing. An idea that might be worth trying is to put a peice of the grey duct tape over it and drill through that. You can use duct tape of almost anything you know... |
celia
Cleveland, OH (Zone 5b)
September 27, 2007 12:33 AM Post #4021045
| Well, it's started! I broke up a blue bottle. I found myself unsure about the sizes and shapes. I'll check it tomorrow night to see how they're doing. If not much happening, I'll get some coarser sand. |
darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States (Zone 5b)
September 27, 2007 12:46 AM Post #4021101
| Crit, mine were on sale for $29.95 each. The SKU is 90979. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 27, 2007 12:46 AM Post #4021102
| Darius, dear. I'm sorry to tell you, that having two tumblers is
not allowed. Box one up immediately and send it my way.
Heh heh. Just kidding. Lucky you!
Celia, that sounds fantastic! I would definitely give it a try, you
may be very impressed after just a day. If you try, please post
your results. We may put your hubby in business! Have fun with
your bottle!
Wannadance, definitely fun to drill holes in. The drawback is
deciding when to drill. If you drill before tumbling, the glass may
wear down during the process, bringing the hole close to the edge.
Generally not a problem, though, if you allow for tumbling decrease
when you place the hole. If you drill afterwards, just take your time and
go slow, or you could break the piece you spent days tumbling. :-)
Diamond bits indeed.
We have a nifty table top drill (another Harbor Freight goodie) which I
use for drilling everything. A deep dish, such as a meat tray, with a block
of wood to bring the piece up to the bit yet still keep the glass underwater
is the method I prefer. The piece must be in water to keep it cool. Go
very slowly and don't force the drill, let the drill do the work and whistle
while you wait.
:-)
|
tetleytuna
Columbia, MO (Zone 5b)
September 27, 2007 1:35 AM Post #4021320
| So you CAN use water! Thank you for the info Wuvie. |
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 27, 2007 1:54 AM Post #4021392
| Oh Darius - the price NOW is
ITEM 90979-2VGA
$39.99
Drats!!!!!!! |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 27, 2007 2:00 AM Post #4021403
| Wait, wait, don't anyone buy one at that price!
Trust me, they go on sale every few months. If I have
to wait for one, you do, too! LOL
Those of us who were not able to take advantage of the sale
and coupon, we'll just wait. Then, when it goes back on, I
promise to Dmail everyone about it.
:-) |
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 27, 2007 2:15 AM Post #4021458
| Hmm, it never came up at that price for me last week... same SKU. Maybe I'll call them tomorrow and see what's up. The single barrel tumbler (the 3 lb. one) is still on sale at $19.99. But for half again as much, I'd rather have two barrels!
And if I miss it, I'm fine with waiting a bit on this project... I figured they had sales pretty regularly. I signed up for their email notification. :-) |
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 27, 2007 2:53 AM Post #4021601
| I am laughing at myself - as I already have TWO single ones - but somehow a double one or two seems a good idea!!!! OK - so no purchases of double barreled ones until we get a sale price once again. |
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 27, 2007 4:38 AM Post #4021865
| so what you're trying to tell me is that this tumbling thing is addictive...
LOL, I could use another harmless addiction to go with my plant obsessions! |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 27, 2007 1:35 PM Post #4022815
| wannadanc
I use a Dremel with a diamond drill bit (you can get a box of 20 I think it is for around $8.00 at where else HF).
I have a small tub with water & thick chunk of Styrofoam keep water over the glass . Every now and then pick up the drill so water can get into the hole.
Don't push let the drill do the work .. Yes its slow going :-)
Cheryl |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 27, 2007 1:39 PM Post #4022837
| critterologist,
I ordered my double for $29.00 But the paper said the sale ended 9-24-07
Must have been a lot ordered as im still waiting for mine.
darius,
how long did it take for you to get yours ?
did it come US mail or UPS ?
Cheryl
|
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 27, 2007 1:45 PM Post #4022861
| Denimangle - thanks for the helpful info...I can tell that I am going to get intimate w/ the boys at HF once again. |
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 27, 2007 2:03 PM Post #4022920
| Thanks, deni! I tried to find that price on the website (before 9-24) but couldn't... I should've called! |
Gitagal
Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
September 27, 2007 3:21 PM Post #4023287
| OK! What is HF????
Gita |
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 27, 2007 3:22 PM Post #4023293
| Harbor Freight... there was a link on the previous thread...
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnu... |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 27, 2007 3:33 PM Post #4023340
| Hi Gita,
Glad you joined the thread.
Guess what? There is a Harbor Freight Tools in
both north and south Baltimore. :-)
N BALTIMORE,MD 8884 WALTHAM WOODS RD 410-663-6186
S.BALTIMORE, MD 6320 RITCHIE HWY, STE 3 410-609-1264
|
darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States (Zone 5b)
September 27, 2007 4:20 PM Post #4023485
| Cheryl, mine came UPS and took nearly 2 weeks from ordering. |
Gitagal
Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
September 27, 2007 5:15 PM Post #4023654
| WUVIE,
I wouldn't say I am 'joining" this thread, but I have been following it all along. I "lurk" on a lot of Threads. I am forever fascinated about all that people do here. SO much talent! Especially YOU, Bettypauze, Lizrainy, etc. Just amazing!
I am no "toadstool" in the craft area myself, just don't have the time and commitment to assume yet another craft project. I only have about 99 unfinished ones all throughout the house. Mostly small crafts, but I could do anything if I set my heart to it--almost...as long as it does not involve major tools and mechanical equipment...:o)
I love the "sea glass". I am fascinated, that's why I wanted to know what HF was.
Thanks for the locations info. here. The Waltham Woods one is only about 15 min. from my house. I will check it out. I think it may be in the shopping center there...
Keep posting all those beautiful pictures!
Thanks, Gita
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 27, 2007 5:33 PM Post #4023702
| Oh, Gita, how neat! Not only do we get to meet you, but
with compliments and beautiful blooms to boot!
You're too sweet!
I'm so glad you joined the thread. It seems many of us have the
same issues, there are so many things to do in life, so many things
to try, yet so little time.
Am I mistaken, or are those the largest Hibiscus syriacus blooms
I've ever seen? Wow. Rose of Sharon are my favorites, can't have enough!
Hope you will come back and join us again and again.
:-) Karen Marie
|
celia
Cleveland, OH (Zone 5b)
September 27, 2007 10:24 PM Post #4024669
| Just checked the results after 1 day. The pieces are very smooth. They're a pretty cobalt blue. I rinsed them and added more Starblast. I'll wait until Saturday to check again. Now to think of what to do with it! |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 27, 2007 10:47 PM Post #4024718
| Celia,
That is fantastic! This stuff you are using, does it disintegrate eventually,
or does it seem to remain? Sounds neat!
|
celia
Cleveland, OH (Zone 5b)
September 27, 2007 11:08 PM Post #4024776
| WUVIE - After I rinsed, there was still the sand-like substance. It wasn't thick or goopy though. It was easy to rinse. Let me know if you would like me to send you some to try. |
Gitagal
Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
September 27, 2007 11:25 PM Post #4024866
| Wuvie,
I have NO idea what a Hibiscus cyriacus is. Not familiar with botanical names on anything. This one is a Kopper King H.
In my picture, I am standing behind the blooms (second ones--i cut the plant back) of my Kopper King Hibiscus. This plant totally surprised me by growing to 6' tall. When all the first wave of blooms were done, i cut the tops back. It re-grew and bloomed a second time.
The bummer is--not a ONE seed pod! None! Must be a hybrid.
Of course, this has NOTHING to do with faux sea Glass...so i will not go any further..
By the way, I drove by the Waltham Woods HF store and popped in to pick up a brochure. It is filled with mostly tools and such.
Gita
|
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 27, 2007 11:39 PM Post #4024896
| By the way, I drove by the Waltham Woods HF store and popped in to pick up a brochure. It is filled with mostly tools and such.
Gita
Oh Yes Gita Thats Whu we love the Place :-)
Cheryl |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 27, 2007 11:42 PM Post #4024905
| critter
Sorry you missed the sale .. I get the HF paper every week ..ill let ya know if they show up again
|
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 27, 2007 11:50 PM Post #4024925
| thanks, Deni! Hopefully they'll let me know via email now too, since I've signed up. I was all set to order the single one (still on sale), but the more I thought about that double barreled one... LOL!
Gita, your gorgeous 'Kopper King' is a hardy hibiscus, H. moscheutos. Rose of Sharon are a different species, H. syriacus. I had to learn the difference when I was trading seeds a couple of years ago, so that I knew what I was growing. :-) They have different leaves, and Rose of Sharon generally has smaller blooms. My H. moscheutos that bloomed this year had flowers the size of luncheon plates! And yes, I think 'KK' is a hybrid... I might try prop'ing mine from dormant cuttings this fall.
OK, back on topic... who has some beautiful freshly tumbled glass for us to oooooohhh over?? |
darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States (Zone 5b)
September 27, 2007 11:56 PM Post #4024939
| I was down in Abingdon today for an eye appt and had the best intentions to visit some thrift stores but the dialated pupils thought otherwise. Best laid plans seem to run amok for me. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 28, 2007 12:13 AM Post #4024996
| Critter, glad you mentioned moscheutos, I was
beginning to think I was going to have to have cuttings
of that baby if it was syriacus.. Very beautiful!
|
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 28, 2007 2:10 AM Post #4025402
| Wuvie, can you not grow H. moscheutos there? I figure if it's hardy for me, it should be hardy for you... I really love 'KK' for its purplish foliage as well as its blooms, and I've also got 'Southern Belle' and 'Plum Crazy' in my garden. I do have some seed-grown H. syriacus also, and one of the older ones had its first blooms (lavender) this summer! |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 28, 2007 3:17 AM Post #4025653
| Ok IM really getting off track here I tried to grow lavender this year .. I thought I did everything right .. Have been told anyone can grow lavender ..
Well not me .. it turned to sticks in a week .. Help I really love lavender how do you grow it
Cheryl |
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 28, 2007 4:40 AM Post #4025838
| Cheryl, lavender doesn't like acidic soil or "wet feet." Excellent drainage, a dose of lime, and a mulch of pea gravel or sand (reflects heat back up into the foliage to help keep it dry) may help. It's a challenge to grow lavender in hot, humid climates. DeBaggio's site has some good tips on growing lavender, see http://www.debaggioherbs.com/growingtips.php#About Our Laven... |
Lala_Jane
North West, OH (Zone 5b)
September 28, 2007 5:08 AM Post #4025870
| I'm wondering if I should use a grittier abrasive. Does this look about right for 5 days tumbling? 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
|
celia
Cleveland, OH (Zone 5b)
September 28, 2007 10:57 AM Post #4026099
| Your glass does look very pretty. But I know what you mean. It's hard to decide if this is as far as it will get. WUVIE will advise us, the guru of tumbling! LOL! |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 28, 2007 12:44 PM Post #4026360
| Lala,
I havent tumbled any yet ..but I think if they were mine Id give them another few days .
I really like the shape of the piece top right. With the edges rounded a bit more.
Cheryl |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 28, 2007 12:50 PM Post #4026377
| Hi critter, oh, yes, we can grow Hibiscus, but I'm just afraid
of what might happen if I bring just one home. You know, the
daylily syndrome.
Oh, ladies, I'm no guru, LOL. If you like the look and it is not
sharp, it's done. :-) You can tumble it to your heart's content,
but if your sand has dissipated you won't get very far. Based
on the edges of your glass, it appears it didn't round well, so
you may be right in the abrasive thought. Are you using common
sand? You might try letting the tumbler go for two days, then
check it. If the grit is tumbled out, you'll need something a bit
more harsh.
After five days, it should be a bit more round on the edges.
(don't mean to dash your spirits at all, Celia) :-) |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 28, 2007 12:50 PM Post #4026382
| critter,
thanks for the link . I thought I had what the lavender needed our soil is sandy ..draind well . but we did have a wet spring & early summer
"It's a challenge to grow lavender in hot, humid climates."
I would think if they sell it here it woiuld grow here ..
but I guess they will sell anything for a $$$
Cheryl |
celia
Cleveland, OH (Zone 5b)
September 28, 2007 1:01 PM Post #4026421
| Oh nooooo... spirits are not dashed! LOL! I'm going back to HF this afternoon for another tumbler!!! I'm also signing up for a jewelry making class! I'm hooked! I don't think I can wait till tomorrow to check them again. I'll post a pic of the blue glass tonight. They will have been in the tumbler for 2 days. I'm lovin' it!!!!! |
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 28, 2007 1:03 PM Post #4026430
| It is fun to watch the results from the tumbling ... and to reflect on what I might have expected. In other words - a bottle neck not broken apart first will still look like a bottle neck!!! That is OK if that is what you want. I have the bottoms of several wine glasses - all from accidental breakage. The round base and stem really DO need to be broken the rest of the way.
Perhaps you have already commented on this - but because my cranial marbles tend to run out the side of my head, I will ask - are there "gentler" ways to break this glass than to use a hammer??? Someplace I have a tile cutter - if I find it, can it be used to remove those wine glass stems? When I use the hammer there is a LOT of shattered small pieces. I DO put the glass into a canvas bag first so as to avoid being lacerated by flying shards!
This message was edited Sep 28, 2007 6:04 AM |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 28, 2007 1:08 PM Post #4026451
| Celia, glad you are enjoying it so much. A jewelry class, indeed!
Wanna, oh, yes, a tile cutter is a good thing! A wheeled tile cutter is
even better, but a nipper makes for some interesting shapes as well.
I like the wheeled cutters because they are handy for all sorts of things.
:-) |
Brender
Topsham, ME (Zone 5a)
September 28, 2007 1:37 PM Post #4026527
| Adhering to my mantra of .. more is better.., I am asking for that dual baby from HF for Christmas!! |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 28, 2007 1:52 PM Post #4026569
| Just one?
LOL. |
Brender
Topsham, ME (Zone 5a)
September 28, 2007 2:42 PM Post #4026761
| Yes, Just the one. I know my limits with that particular Santa! |
celia
Cleveland, OH (Zone 5b)
September 28, 2007 3:27 PM Post #4026952
| Hmmmmm...we celebrate Sweetest Day here Oct. 20th I think. Who needs flowers?! A gift certificate from HF would smell as sweet! LOL! |
dahtzu
Henderson, NC (Zone 7b)
September 28, 2007 6:44 PM Post #4027651
| Hi Wuvie.. Got the glass bug bad..so bad in fact I have been dumpster diving. Got some bottles, and have no idea what to do with them LOL Have no tools at all. How do you break your bottles? 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 28, 2007 7:46 PM Post #4027856
| Celia, Sweetest Day? Do tell! (please?)
Dahtzu, wow! You not only have been dumpster diving, you
scored, lady! No tools? Oh, my, we will have to send you back to
Harbor Freight, LOL.
At least a hammer and a pair of safety glasses are required. You'll
have to be very careful about smashing the glass, though, as it does
fly. Be sure to break the glass where it cannot create a flat tire on any
of your vehicles or where children might play.
While wheeled nippers and tile nippers are very handy, and they do
control the cuts better, you still have the possibility of flying pieces, so
do be careful no matter what you use.
Also, remember that beer and soda bottles are often thinner on the sides
and so the glass pieces will be thinner. Champagne bottles are a great
score because the glass is so thick, but must be smashed well to break up.
While right off hand, I can't see exactly what you have there, it appears you
have a lot of great finds! You might try to identify some of them before breaking
them, just in case you come across an antique bottle. :-)
Many of my bottles will never see a hammer because they are so unique
or old.
KM
|
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 28, 2007 8:07 PM Post #4027944
| IT"S HERE IT"S HERE !!!!!
UPS must have brought it last night .. (they dont come to the house We have a Big UPS Box out at the Gate )
I have it filled & running Green & Clear glass I had to do a little handy work befor it would work .. the motor was to far to one side and the fan was stuck on the side. Then when I got it to move it was hitting the side WHAT A RACKET... but its working on ..
Did everyone get a extra belt with your tumbler????
will do the first check tomorrow.
Also slumping bottles & a tempered glass bowl today ...
So much to do ...lol |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 28, 2007 8:26 PM Post #4027998
| Oh, Cheryl, please do post pics! I am in absolute awe of your
bowls. Those are to die for! Have you considered selling them
at an art or craft exhibit in the park?
:-) KM
Congrats on your tumblers, everyone! |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 28, 2007 9:15 PM Post #4028178
| A wheeled tile cutter !!! Yes I see this is a must have }:>
dahtzu, You did score big the wanted BLUE Bottles Great find !!!
Thanks Karen,
Well My first shot at the tempered slumped bowl cracked in the middle .. Ill try it again when all cools ... Ill post when & if it works .. The girl I got my first tG from told me she wanted her window back ...lol so this one was for her.
Have to go oil the tumbler is squeaking
Cheryl
|
celia
Cleveland, OH (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 1:09 AM Post #4028900
| Here is my blue glass after 2 days. What do you think? 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
|
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 29, 2007 1:18 AM Post #4028929
| Very nice! Don't you just love the way it looks when it is wet?
I have tumbled glass on top of the soil in many of my plants,
both indoor and out. The pond plants stay wet, so does the glass,
it is so pretty.
When I mist the indoor plants, I always make sure to mist the glass
so I can have something to ooh and ahh about.
Good job, Celia! Whatcha gonna do with it now? ;-) |
tetleytuna
Columbia, MO (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 1:18 AM Post #4028930
| Beautiful Celia! |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 29, 2007 1:20 AM Post #4028934
| looking good ...how many more days are you going to tumbler?
Cheryl |
dahtzu
Henderson, NC (Zone 7b)
September 29, 2007 1:52 AM Post #4029063
| Thanks everyone. Now to find a Harbor Freight. Would you believe I have never heard of it? What do you do with tumbled glass? I'm off to yard sales tomorrow and good thing Hubby knows what a tumbler looks like, he will be looking for me. Something else I don't know...gosh, I know absolutely nothing about any of the tools you ladies are talking about. Hope I live long enough to learn..
Thanks a bunch for any help.
Faye
Click the image for an enlarged view. |
dahtzu
Henderson, NC (Zone 7b)
September 29, 2007 1:54 AM Post #4029069
| Celia, Your blue glass is so pretty. What will you do with it? Please post anything you make.
Faye |
imapigeon
Gilroy (Sunset Z14), CA (Zone 9a)
September 29, 2007 2:07 AM Post #4029116
| Faye, you're missing out! With an 18-volt cordless drill and a 3" augur(or however it's spelled), I can dig a hole for a 1-gallon pot in heavy clay soil in about 5 minutes! |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 29, 2007 2:14 AM Post #4029140
| Celia,
Don't worry about not knowing about the tools, there is so
much to learn in life, so little time.
We'll help you develop bad habits.
Uh, I mean, we'll help you learn.
;-)
|
daisyavenue
Long Beach, CA (Zone 10b)
September 29, 2007 3:50 AM Post #4029501
| Is it me or does dahtzu's post say there is a pic to click on but there is no pic? |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 29, 2007 4:04 AM Post #4029543
| Hi Daisy,
This same thing happened a couple days ago, Dave's might
be having some difficulties.
:-) KM |
celia
Cleveland, OH (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 4:40 AM Post #4029605
| I put some more broken glass ( Ice 101) bottle into my new tumbler tonight. I"m not sure what I will do with all this tumbled glass. You guys have got me started on something. I'm thinking Christmas presents...jewelry...candles..or. something. The sky is the limit now! |
celia
Cleveland, OH (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 4:45 AM Post #4029615
| Cheryl...
I think I will tumble a few days more, just to see what happens. I have to keep tumbling now that WUVIE has got the bug in me. THANX WUVIE!!! You are our muse. |
Lala_Jane
North West, OH (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 7:43 AM Post #4029794
| This is so sad.
I've never been much of a wine drinker. |
Lala_Jane
North West, OH (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 7:45 AM Post #4029795
| Untill now. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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tetleytuna
Columbia, MO (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 10:06 AM Post #4029837
| OH NOOOO! We have corrupted an empressionable youth!!!! |
critterologist
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
September 29, 2007 10:38 AM Post #4029857
| Soon, she'll be incorrigible! And we'll be the ones to have encouraged her!
LOL |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 29, 2007 10:42 AM Post #4029863
| dahtzu,
its Good that you thank us now :-)
After you find HF and get tumbler & tools you may want to kill us for getting you hooked on glass .LOL
Faux sea glass can lead to other things
Good luck on your garage sale trip tomorrow. Don't forget to look for cool glass too.
Cheryl :-) |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 29, 2007 10:45 AM Post #4029865
| Lala,
Step away from the bottle...LOL
You don't have to drink the wine to get the bottles :-)
Just let your drunk friends drink it for you ...lol
Cheryl
|
Lala_Jane
North West, OH (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 11:28 AM Post #4029906
| I plan to serve it to my parents tomorrow. They WILL drink it. They WILL like it, and they they WILL want to buy more of their own. In mass quantities.
Unfortunately my dad's a beer drinker and my mom's a teetotaler.
So next weekend I'll have my friends over. They WILL drink it. They WILL like it, and they they WILL want to buy more of their own. In mass quantities... |
Brender
Topsham, ME (Zone 5a)
September 29, 2007 11:42 AM Post #4029919
| That's how I am getting blue bottles, too. I DO like it, I DO drink it, and I DO want to buy more!! ;-) This is the brand I buy: http://www.littlegerman.com |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 29, 2007 12:00 PM Post #4029949
| Bender,
you can save your self $30.00 and make your own chees tray. :-)
[http://www.littlegermangiftshop.com/SS-9100.htm] |
Brender
Topsham, ME (Zone 5a)
September 29, 2007 12:12 PM Post #4029976
| Exactly! As soon as my kiln element arrives.. Supposed to be shipped this week. I hope a bottle will fit in there. I think it will be close but haven't really checked. How much room do you need around something in the kiln? I am checking craigslist fairly often to see if a bigger kiln crops up that I can afford. So far they haven't been below $1000 and not in the general area. You have to be careful moving a kiln, as I remember.
There is someone on craigslist selling the contents of a stained glass shop for $650 OMG! Tons of glass, tools, and forms... If we didn't need a new roof I'd be lobbying DH for that purchase for sure.. despite the 4+ hour round trip. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 29, 2007 1:22 PM Post #4030183
| Oh my goodness. We have members breaking the budget,
dumpster diving, purchasing alcohol, smashing perfectly good
dinnerware and exhibiting acts of frustration in general.
What have we created?
LOL
Such a fun bunch you all are! I can't wait to get up each day
and see what each of you are up to. Very fun group!
Brownies for everyone! |
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 29, 2007 1:26 PM Post #4030193
| Here is something else you have started ...
How would you like to have a BIG tumbler - as in a cement mixer!!!!!!???????? I am laughing because I gave mine away to my son - may have to borrow it back!!!!!!!!!
Another thing - found whilst surfing and snooping -
you can buy (or make) glass gravel - OMG
http://www.glass-rocks.com/
From my surfing and snooping comes the question about tumbling glass WITHOUT grit so as to keep the clarity but to still soften the sharp edges ... any ideas on that???
Time for a fresh pot of coffee and time to contemplate what thou hast wrought! |
darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 1:34 PM Post #4030209
| wannadanc, I saw a TV show where a man had created a long bed (maybe 5x10?), making it look like rivers, lakes and mountains from his native homeland, using many colors of glass gravel. It was awesome. |
Brender
Topsham, ME (Zone 5a)
September 29, 2007 1:55 PM Post #4030269
| Wannadanc,
I was thinking that same thing just yesterday, about a giant tumbler! Thought I'd get my father the mechanical genius working on that. Maybe I'll just stick to that dual tumbler in HF.. as it is my head is like a lava dome ready to explode with all the ideas rattling around and no time to do any of them.. frustration is not even the word!! I need a brownie :-(
Have fun today everybody whatever you are up to! |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 29, 2007 2:47 PM Post #4030398
| That is my ultimate dream. I would LOVE to have walkways
filled with glass. Often, I sit and wonder how long it would take
using five tiny tumblers, ha ha!
It just amazes me how much glass is wasted, tossed into the
trash every day. Just imagine what wonderful things could be done
with it all. Sigh.
We've tossed around the idea of a cement mixer, as we were
unable to find any instructions online for making our own huge
tumbler, though many people have made them. Too neat!
Heading off for a chili cookoff at the family reunion. Have fun, everyone!
KM |
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 29, 2007 3:00 PM Post #4030442
| Well, I must FIRST activate a glass supply from my drinking friends ... and THEN get the cement mixer back from my son!!!!!!!!
THAT is all there is to THAT!!!!!!!!
LOL |
imapigeon
Gilroy (Sunset Z14), CA (Zone 9a)
September 29, 2007 3:41 PM Post #4030531
| OK folks, I've been lurking long enough here. I paid about $75 for 50 lbs of recycled tumbled blue glass a few years ago. I've used it for container mulch and in my fountain (mistake---it got full of crud all the time and had to be "washed"). Now I plan to use some of it at the base of my rain chains on top of gravel that will fill the drainage channel. I treat this stuff like it was solid gold because it was so darned expensive---now I can make my own! I HAVE a cement mixer! I also have a rock tumbler, but before I can use it, I'll have to remove the last batch of rocks I started and abandoned---probably about 3 years ago...sigh.
I love that I'm not the only one buying beverages---adult or otherwise---strictly for the color of the bottles. BTW, Arizona Iced Tea has (or at least had) one flavor in blue bottles. It's hard to tell when they're sitting on the shelf because they don't look blue with the iced tea in them, but it's "our" cobalt blue! It's the "Iced Tea with Ginseng Extract". Been a while since I bought any because I had to figure out what I was going to do with all those bottles before I bought more (clearly, now I have). Hopefully they haven't changed the packaging!
I'm looking for turquoise bottles, too, and the only thing I've found is gin, and it took me 2 years to empty one of them!
Here's an "inspiration" picture I took recently (not my plant, unfortunately). I think all of your tumbled-glass pictures look nicer than this glass, but it's still pretty!
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 4:08 PM Post #4030601
| imapigeon, great idea using glass for the rain chains! |
Lala_Jane
North West, OH (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 4:38 PM Post #4030680
| It gets worse. Much worse.
I have never been to a garage sale in my life. Never, ever ever. I have nothing against garage sales, and I know people who find them great sport. But I've never found the time or patience to indulge in the adventure myself. I am actually hestitating with my fingers poised over the keyboard. Why do I find this so embarrassing?
I have never been to a garage sale in my life. This morning I went to 8 of them.
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dahtzu
Henderson, NC (Zone 7b)
September 29, 2007 6:41 PM Post #4030956
| Lala, So glad you finally went to a Yard Sale. sure hope you had fun, you sure got some pretty glass. As for those beautiful blue bottles, enough to make anyone take to drinking wine.
Daisy I do not know what I was suppose to post and it not show. If you remember what it was, I'll be glad to post it again.
Wuvie, from what I have seen of your talent, I'll be looking for your work in progress as you start your walkway...Go girl, you can do it.
|
Brender
Topsham, ME (Zone 5a)
September 29, 2007 6:59 PM Post #4031009
| Lala! You go gurrrrlll. Eight all in one day - I think you've got the fever.. I am sitting here channeling Brenda Lee snapping my fingers and singing..."Fever!... fever in the morning ..And fever all through the night..."
|
imapigeon
Gilroy (Sunset Z14), CA (Zone 9a)
September 29, 2007 7:08 PM Post #4031040
| PEGGY Lee, Brender!!! |
Brender
Topsham, ME (Zone 5a)
September 29, 2007 7:14 PM Post #4031069
| I stand corrected.. that's who I meant! I'm punchy... been up since 4.. |
Lala_Jane
North West, OH (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 7:32 PM Post #4031127
| The more apt question might be who has NOT sung Fever? I think just about every artist under the sun has sung it at one time or another (including me although my artistic ability might be questioned by some :P ) And you will REALLY (I suppose I ought to learn how to do bolding and italics so I can stop with the screaming caps) have to excuse my punchiness as I've been up since 9:00...yesterday. Friday nights are usually all-nighters for me...so many garage sales, so little time.
LOL! |
darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States (Zone 5b)
September 29, 2007 8:02 PM Post #4031208
| My favorite rendition of that song was Juile London. |
imapigeon
Gilroy (Sunset Z14), CA (Zone 9a)
September 29, 2007 9:47 PM Post #4031429
| Peggy Lee's album with that song on it was DH's first record purchase...I always thought she was so sexy---guess he did too.
Garage sales & thrift stores and thrift stores and garage sales...I'm trying desperately to stay away since we cleaned out my MIL's house this year. But this tumbled glass is VERY FUNCTIONAL! |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 29, 2007 10:46 PM Post #4031590
| Brender
You have to be careful moving a kiln, as I remember.`
Take pillows & blankets stuff in the kiln to bring it home . Oh tie downs too over the top, a blanket around the out side too then a tiedown strap but not to tight ...
imapigeon
"Iced Tea with Ginseng Extract". I will have to look for them .
Your going to love this ...
Bombay gin bottle Buddha
http://janetmcfadyen.blogspot.com/
http://www.warmglass.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=25053&start=0
Lala,
Way to go girl !!!!
Cheryl
This message was edited Sep 29, 2007 4:47 PM |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 29, 2007 11:54 PM Post #4031796
| Quoting:I have never been to a garage sale in my life.
Hot dog, a first timer!
Won't that be funny when you tell someone the first yard sale
you ever visited, you smashed what you bought? LOL
I'm so proud of you! |
imapigeon
Gilroy (Sunset Z14), CA (Zone 9a)
September 30, 2007 12:07 AM Post #4031829
| Cheryl: Bombay gin is the one...too bad I don't like the taste more more...or IS it? LOL~~ I love the "Wall of Daisies"!
Lala I'm trying hard not to look too closely at your picture...I've been taking aspirin for my "fever" and it's BROKEN! HAHAHA! Have a smashing good time! Can't wait to see what you make/do with your pieces. |
tetleytuna
Columbia, MO (Zone 5b)
September 30, 2007 1:12 AM Post #4032015
| Glad you had (or will have) such a smashing good time at your first garage sale adventure Lala! Now you will have to start going to the second hand stores and flea markets...
Wannadance, you are going to get me on SOOOO much trouble when hubby finds out that I have my baby cement mixer going for days at time and sees the electric bill! LOL |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 30, 2007 1:34 AM Post #4032126
| Wannadance & tetleytuna ,you 2 are cracking me up ...cement mixers ..
it must be all that blue bottled wine
:-)
Cheryl
|
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 30, 2007 2:26 AM Post #4032306
| Tetley - yes, I wondered about that!!!! It bothers me to evem have this little tumbler running 24/7 ... I just don't do that w/ very many things. Maybe being solo will prove to have one more perc - no one to give me grief about the power bill...LMAO. |
caro_uk
near cardiff
United Kingdom
September 30, 2007 2:43 AM Post #4032349
| Hi everyone, just found this, http://www.agatehouse.co.uk/lapid2.htm home made tumbler thought you all may like a look. all this glass posted on here ,very nice . what are you all going to use it for? im still thinking what im going too do with mine.ok off to bed its gone 3am 3.42am catch you all laters bye. |
Lala_Jane
North West, OH (Zone 5b)
September 30, 2007 5:21 AM Post #4032660
| Karen I was so determined to not mention the smashing part when I bought my new treasures. I should imagine it would be a bit disconcerting to some folks to know that Aunt Marguarite's favorite vase was about to become fodder for my hammer, so I reminded myself to keep my comments to myself. But wouldn't you know that at my very first sale I dropped one of my bargains right there on the garage floor? And in my embarrassment the first thing out of my mouth was, "well that's just one I won't have to bother smashing later on." Real nice La. And that little faux pas only slightly surpasses the comment I made at my final stop when the lady started meticulously wrapping the little juice glasses for me. I believe I mentioned that I've never done garage sales primarily because I don't have the patience for it? Well I was in a hurry to get going and I displayed that impatience quite nicely as I handed the lady my $1.20 and blurted out, "it's OK if they bang together I'm just going to smash them up anyway." Ah yes, a brilliant display of tact if I ever saw one.
Oh ho tetley! I've already got stops at the 3 local thrift shops on my agenda for next week. And pigeon? You have a much stronger immune system than I if a couple of aspirin is all it takes to break the fever. Apparently my desire to break the glass is much stronger than my desire to break the fever so I guess I'm truly hooked. Will somebody please keep me in the loop when the double barrel tumbler goes on sale? ;-)
Now. Would anybody care to join me for a glass of wine? |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 30, 2007 11:36 AM Post #4032889
| wanna,
"little tumbler running 24/7 ... I just don't do that w/ very many things"
You & me both sister .. Im always telling everyone to turn things off ...lol
Hubby even asked me if I was really going to let it run 24/7 ...
He couldn't believe it ...
But when things are running in my glass shop I never think about the elect bill ...
(kilns, solder iron, etc.) Just told him thats why you have to turn the lights off in the House ...LOL
caro, I wonder where they are getting the barrels,
Lala.. Just how is that Blue Bottled wine :-)
Well im off to check my little tumbler ...Y'All have a great day
Cheryl
Well I went down to check the tumblers ... And the belt had snaped ... all that time running for nothing :-(
Guess ill be calling HF in the morning to see if they will send a new belt ..
has anyone had to deal with this ?
Good thing I ordered one
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WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 30, 2007 3:58 PM Post #4033528
| Oh, everyone, I was so happy when I visited this thread for the day!
Lala, I'll drink with you as I mention my goof. One year at a yard sale,
I bought bags full of clothing, all sorts, all sizes, all colors - for a buck or two.
The lady commented that there were so many bright colors in there. I replied
something along the lines of "Oh yes, I can't wait to cut these up, I'm going
to make rag rugs with them." She replied the clothes belonged to here mother,
who had recently passed.
Cough. Sputter. Choke.
For those concerned with the tumbler, I once figured the cost out, at
least based on my little Rolling Stones brand. It was so insignificant that
I haven't thought much about it since. If you think about it, a blow dryer, at
least mine, is 1500 watts, while the small rock tumbler is 10 watts.
Caro, wow, what a time difference! Get your behind to bed, young lady! ;-)
We will definitely keep everyone in the loop for the barrels as they go on
sale at HF. I receive emails of their sale ads, so I'll watch it like a hawk.
What a great link for the super tumbler, thanks, Caro!
Happy Autumn, everyone!
(thumbnail is of hubby and two of our Castor Bean plants)
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 30, 2007 4:41 PM Post #4033651
| Wuvie - your hubby is cute - but I would give my right arm and 3 bowling balls for castor bean leaves that size - wonderful stuff for concrete leaf work! |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX (Zone 8b)
September 30, 2007 9:18 PM Post #4034368
| Karen thanks for the power break down. mostly hubby just likes to give me a hard time about all my glass toys running up the elect .. the shop has a different meater then the house so I know just how much it cost me to play ...even the kilns dont run that much...lol
I was wondering what you did with castor beans.
Cheryl |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 30, 2007 9:27 PM Post #4034386
| Hi Cheryl,
We have been growing castor beans for many years now. Can't
get enough of them. We don't really do much with them other than
stand in awe at the sizes they grow in such a short time. By the first
frost, they are nothing more than spinach on a stick. We've never
experienced a perennial, they always die.
It gives passers-by something to stop and back up about. They are
also superb for, as wannadanc mentioned, hypertuffa and concrete art.
:-) KM
|
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 30, 2007 9:41 PM Post #4034438
| Castor beans are extremely poisonous - contain ricin - so consideration of the little people around is advised as the seeds are very attractive.
One year some students gave me a huge one from the local nursery - a thank-you gift - LOL. Nursery didn't KNOW the plant - I did. They are SO gorgeous ...maybe I will try it again. I did get some leaf impressions from one plant back when.
Here is some info from the Internet
http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/toxicagents/ricin/ricin...
If the seed is swallowed without chewing, and there is no damage to the seed coat, it will most likely pass harmlessly through the digestive tract. However, if it is chewed or broken and then swallowed, the ricin toxin will be absorbed by the intestines.
It is said that just one seed can kill a child. Children are more sensitive than adults to fluid loss due to vomiting and diarrhea, and can quickly become severely dehydrated and die.
Castor bean plants in a garden should not be allowed to flower and seed. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 30, 2007 9:52 PM Post #4034475
| Wanna,
Indeed they are poisonous. One should exercise caution with Castor
Bean the same way they should with many other plants.
Including, but not limited to Autumn Crocus, Brugmansia, Bittersweet,
Hyacinth, Narcissus, Daffodil, Oleander, Dieffenbachia, Elephant Ear,
Rosary Pea, Larkspur, Monkshood, Autumn Crocus, Star of Bethlehem, Lily-of-the-Valley, Iris, Foxglove, Bleeding Heart, Rhubarb, Daphne, Wisteria,
Golden Chain, Laurels, Rhododendrons, Azaleas, Jasmine, Lantana Camara,
Yew, some cherries, some oaks, Elderberry, Black Locust, Jack in the
Pulpit, Moonseed, Mayapple, Mistletoe, Water Hemlock, Buttercups,
Nightshade, Poison Hemlock, Jimsonweed.
Just to name a few.
Caladiums, Darnel, Daphne, Horse Chestnut, Privet. Taking breath,
but far from done.
Cutting off the flower stalk on a Castor bean will prevent seeds.
Lovely plants which will always have a home in my garden. :-)
KM |
wannadanc
Olympia, WA
September 30, 2007 10:17 PM Post #4034560
| I agree 100% about all you have said there, Wuvie. There are many many poisonous plants...even the eyes and leaves of our beloved potatoes. Some have received more attention than others -Ricin was used in the 1978 assassination of Bulgarian dissident Georgi Markov. I found that entire business fascinating, albeit horrific.
In any event - I certainly didn't have any evil intent in bringing up the subject - love the plant - love MANY of the ones on your list. Wish I could convince some of the herbivores around here to sample the castor bean - might cut down on the unwelcome grazing. Slugs would be the first I would invite!!!!!!! |
caro_uk
near cardiff
United Kingdom
September 30, 2007 10:21 PM Post #4034574
| Hi all , Denimangle you can make your own barrels for a home made tumbler 4inch down pipe just cut to size ,buy the end caps and you have a barrel.
Wuvie, i dont know anything about plants,only plants i have are aloe- vera-barbadensis.which i grow to eat,i put a whole leaf in a blender thorns removed and add ice cream and whatever fruit i have,tastes so good.
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Lala_Jane
North West, OH (Zone 5b)
September 30, 2007 10:33 PM Post #4034618
| I need more control over the shape of my glass pieces. I know this is about as Glasswork 101 as it gets, but what's the scoop with the nippers I see you all refer to? How much control will it give me and how thick (or thin) of a piece will it cut? And I'm guessing I'd go to a craft store to purchase one?
Thanks oh mighty tumbling mentors! |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 30, 2007 10:36 PM Post #4034637
| Wow, Caro, now that sounds like a treat!
Wanna, many thanks for your clarification. In agreement about
the fascination. Isn't it bizarre what people do to one another in
the name of love (cough) or money?
We're still extremely cautious. We have three human kids and
multiple fuzzy ones who act as Hoovers, so we have to make certain
to keep the seeds covered when they are in the popping stage. Sophie
eats anything that rolls, moves or sits.
LOL |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK (Zone 7a)
September 30, 2007 10:47 PM Post #4034699
| Hi Lala,
I'm about to start page four, and will add your last post to
the new link. Come on over, everyone!
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/775925/
:-) KM |
