I have another question... How and where does everyone do there SMASHING? I'm trying to find a safe place to break my glass. For now I'm putting the piece in a brown bag, and then inside an empty dog/cat food bag. But when I'm nipping, hmmmm how to keep down the tiny, tiny pieces from going everywhere. Okay, I'm open to all your techniques.
Hello all ... i tried to resist but nooo i just kept on reading...a nice young man that shoots a bb gun in his basement gave me his targets... a lil red wagon full of arizona tea blue bottles!! ordered my tumbler this afternoon :) Kim
OK... I got really excited about this site... I asked DH didn't we have a tumbler... and yes we do... yeah!!!
I went rummaging for old wine bottles, looking at old dump for broken green glass insulators and bringing home all kinds of trash... lol (it was fun)
I get the tumber out and it is soooo old that it does not work anymore... so I decided not to buy a new one and get rid of the trash I brought home... until Cheryl posted those beautiful bowls. Now, again, I want to do the sea glass... then you tell me I have to get a kiln?... lol
What is a girl to do? Can I use a blow torch? Or build a really hot fire? :)
I have a technique for smashing that seems to work well for me. I have one of those large plastic trash cans that you can buy at Wal-Mart. I took it outdoors turned it on it's side. You can use a large wrench to break the glass. I use eyeglasses so that protects my eyes. Reach a little ways into the trash can and whack away. The bits that want to fly up will hit the sides of the trash can and fall back down. If you reach in far enough they will not fly out of the top. When you have the pieces you want take those out and simply stand the trash can upright and dump into another trash can that is lined and there is no worry about sharp bits of glass anywhere.
So, dumb question----are these fired flat first to melt them together into a sheet first, and then put into a slump mold and fired again to get the bowl shape?
IM not sure how she did them ... Ill ask her
But I have used the tempered glass both ways .. fused into a slab first and then slumped ..and stacked in the mold and fused .. I really like the 2nd way better ..
the bowls were fused into a slab first ... but she had the samething happen as when I fused a slab with tempered glass and ended up with LG holes .(I had to reslump/fire 5 times to get rid of the holes)
so im thinking that lining the mold is a much better way. At least I like the look better ill try and get a picture later
i just did not want any one to think i got glass from a child shooting a bb gun"
LOL I didnt give that a 2nd thought ... we live in the woods and kids start hunting young around here.
Just thought the web page was strange ...lol
5 firings??? YEOW!!! My electric bill would be thru the roof, since my kiln is 4 cu ft for ceramics.
So how do you "line the mold" and keep the glass from sliding? Just put pieces together edge-to-edge? I'm still trying to wrap my tiny brain around this concept...
Wow your elect must be more $$$ then here .
but this was in my small glass kiln ...
"So how do you "line the mold" and keep the glass from sliding? Just put pieces together edge-to-edge?" Yeppers thats how you do it ... you could use a little super glue if you wanted it will burn off. But I haven't had to YET!!!!
You are going to have some holes but thats ok ...its not a bowl your going to eat soup in ..lol
DH just installed 18 solar panels that have been online for 4 weeks. Our bill went from $375 a month (and more---typically around $500 at Christmas) to $124----that does include natural gas, and we only run our AC when it's over 100 degrees. It's pricey here!! That's one reason I've learned to single-fire my ceramic tiles in my gas kiln...
The state of CA won't allow selling it back (one of the few) but we're at least pushing it back during peak time, which is when it's most expensive. We plan to put on another 18 panels next year...after we get these paid for----LOL!! But what's cool is we didn't put them on the roof of the house, we replaced our ratty old sidewalk overhang with them
Just checked out your link, denim; those bowls are really NEAT!
telly, that's what I thought---just went out to feed the fish, and was able to stand under the panels and stay dry in the rain! Took me 2 years to convince DH it would work, but he figured out a great system for installing, and now we're "reducing our environmental footprint", and saving money too. EEHHAAA
The bowls are great, gosh, I'll never catch up.. You all do such great things and i want to try them all.
As for breaking bottles, I place my bottle in a concrete splash guard (borrowed from under the gutter down spout) this keeps the glass from going everywhere. cover with landscaping paper(just because it was handy) and gently smash. Lifting often to see if need to smash again. Works for me..good luck
As an aside, I saw sea glass at the bead store advertised as genuine Maine sea glass. ONE PIECE, maybe the size of a nickel, was selling for $3.00... OMG! Fused pendants..$30.00.. yup, got to get making some stuff.
LOL, Brenda, I'll take one of those! It's actually doable; some years ago, I saw an article in Mother Earth News where someone who'd moved to the backwoods hooked a bike up to a washing machine and rode the clothes clean. Funny, but absolutely effective for both washing and exercise.
Now to a question. But first, I must say that this is the worst thread ever for for hooking someone on a new hobby! Are you ever a bunch of enablers! Oh, yeah, the question: I threw away a Kahlua bottle the other day, then wondered what that heavy brown glass would look like tumbled and thought maybe I should save it. That Kahlua lasted for several years, but I love wine and buy a bottle or two (it's shared!) about once a week. So much red wine, in particular, is bottled in beautiful glass. Do you have favorite beverages that you buy for the bottle more than the content?
I don't even have a tumbler but I see one in my near future, thanks to you guys! I think I'll wait on the kiln. Something about jumping in with both feet before learning to swim...
I haven't tumbled any brown glass but I have some brown sea glass, which I find a soothing color. A chick at stained glass class has quite a bit of brown sea glass she is planning to use as leaves on a tree piece she is thinking about doing.
I am now buying beverages for the bottle (say that 5 times fast!) I hear the tumbler calling you ;-D
Well, that is what I get for bragging. I didn't get diddly at the hobby
store. Sigh. Completely forgot the clay!
Brender, the 'Tone and Tumbler', too cute!
Tomato, I love the Kahlua bottles, they look nice after
tumbling, but they are so gorgeous when the sun shines
through the bottoms. It's hard for me to break one when
I think about the potential for a bottle house. :-)
Beer bottle brown is indeed nice, but beer bottles are not
as much fun (to me) to tumble or break because they are so
thin. Better to look for thick stuff like champagne bottles, old
Clorox bottles, etc. Very nice!
When IM cutting beer bottles for windchimes
I cut at least 1 bottle all the way to the top .. Im going to use the top rings in the tumbler they are thicker and will be donuts easy to make a necklae out of.
I think ill slump them first in the kiln will take less time to get that rounded look.
"I'm thinking of hooking up a tumbler to a thing like The Professor always made on Gilligan's Island, you know where Gilligan always had to ride the bike. "
I swear it takes a lot to make me smile let alone laugh the first thing out of bed. That one got me.
I also had to laugh when Tomatofreak asked about buying beverages more for the color of the bottle than the contents. When I went dumpster diving at the recycle center I found pieces of a bottle in a beautiful orange-amber color. I kept digging until I found enough of the label to piece it back together so I could look for it again. Does anybody drink Contreau? LOL
For anyone getting the black gunk in your tumbler This talks about shot but it really applies to the tumbler.
Cleaning Barrel and Shot: If stainless steel shot becomes dirty (your pieces just won’t shine up and actually get dirty during tumbling), you can clean it by using a Coke bath. Rinse shot in strainer and return to barrel. Barely cover shot with flat Coke (or other non-carbonated mild acidic solution). Tumble for 15-30 minutes. Rinse shot and barrel. Repeat if necessary. If jewelry is blackened, repeat coke bath one more time with the jewelry in the barrel.
I had it happen and just rinsed and cleaned the tumbler mutltiple times, cleaning the shot thoroughly each time. Took 4 or 5 rinses but it was clean and haven't had a problem since. I've heard from many sources about the coke bath. The coke should be flat ! Be VERY careful rinsing your shot that you don't do it over the disposal . . . those little pins are really bad for disposals!!!!
Ima, don't feel bad. When grocery shopping, many items are
now chosen not for the brand or the label, but the packaging.
Hmm, can I mosaic that? Could I slice that on the tile saw?
How would that look melted?
There is a Mexican beer that is in blue bottles. For a couple of years I found a lot mostly around Christmas time but now I'm finding LOTS of them whenever I go to the dump. I need a bumper sticker that says "I brake for blue bottles." I sometimes see them by the side of the road but if there's no shoulder I can't stop . About the only time my desire for self-preservation overcomes my love of blue bottles. I have bags and bags of them but many have been involved in fires (they still burn at the dumps here) and need serious cleaning. If broken or too bad to clean they go in the tumbler.
Makes me feel so much better to know that my addiction to blue bottles/glass is shared...and YET, to know that all of you are also out there looking for them makes me check your posts closely to see where you live!!!
Don't worry about me LOL! I live on the other side of the country!!!! I just can't decide if I want to smash my blue SKYY bottles, or keep collecting them for a garden border. I REALLY like WUVIE's wine border. Decisions...decisions.
Hi everyone! I've missed you but it's been hectic here running the kids all over creation! The science project is well underway and I am posting the first group of glass. This was tumbled for 7 days with loose gravel found at a construction site. My son re-loaded it daily with 3 Tbl of fresh gravel. We are now tumbiling for the next 7 days with dirt from the bottom of a local stream/river. I'll keep you posted. By the way, we break the glass in a fabric bag, it seems to work just fine. Be well! I will post a few other pictures too.
Here's a before/after photo. We have broken the glass into 4 groups of 45 pieces. We've also had our belt break. I am thinking that a vacuum belt will work and we will try that once this next one breaks. We are tumbling for 4 weeks straight and are just one week 2. I suspect we will have more belt breakage so I better be prepared. Has anyone had any luck at the hardware store? Keep the posts coming!
Great photos!!! I love sea glass. I have a lot of it laying around here that I picked up here and there. I siliconed it to a candle last year. Some of the pieces fell off though and I lost interest after that. I probably used the wrong kind of silicon. It was what we had around here at the time.
I've been watching these threads and seeing what you all are turning out makes me want a tumbler too! I've got plenty of glass that I could tumble. Seeing how pretty those pieces turned out makes me wonder how I can attach it to one of our copper sculptures. hmmmmmmmmm the wheels are turning.
I tried a oring belt it was to thich to work ..someone told me a different belt to try that can be cut into 3 or 4 belts and if I can find the paper it was writen on ill pose it I believe its a Hoover belt .
ok found it it is a Hoover vac belt # 38528-035
KBJ where did you find all those gorgeous colors? Simply beautiful!!! I guess I've been lucky as I've been tumbling steadily for over a month with not a single belt issue (knock on wood).
I have a great tumbler story. I was going into "the big town" today to pick my dad up from the hospital, and being that patience has never been one of my strong points I decided to go to Harbor Freight and pick up a 2nd tumbler. I tried my best to wait for the double drum to go on sale...I really did! But alas I am weak and I caved. So I printed out the online add for the single drum and away I went.
The clerk told me that yes indeed they most certainly would honor the add and told me where to find the tumbler. I searched and searched to no avail and finally had to call the clerk back to aid me. He also searched and searched even checking the depths of "the back room" (Does anybody else ever wonder about the mysterious "back room"? Do these stores have haphazard junk piles back there not unlike my own basement where finding the desired object could take weeks if not months? Or maybe it's some swank coffee-bar affair that only the elite are allowed to enter? Some day when no one's looking I'm going to take a peak. I'm going to shove those curtains to the side and discover the secrets to "the back room")...er, sorry about that.
At any rate there was no tumbler to be found. I've gotten much bolder in my old age so I approached the manager singing the blues about having traveled an hour and a half to make my purchase. I then asked if he would consider giving me $10 off the double drum instead since it would probably be months before I could make my return. He looked rather dubious, but did a little calculating, punched a few buttons, then made a trip (where else but) into the back room. He emerged all smiles (what WAS he doing back there?) and told me that he would be happy to honor the add by subtracting $10 off the double drum instead. He then punched a few more buttons and told me that the last time the double tumbler was on sale it was $34 so I could have it for that price instead. Yowza!
The moral of the story? Don't be afraid to ask...nothing ventured, nothing gained. :D
Or perhaps the REAL moral is that there's magic behind them back curtains and passing through them is like drinking from the fountain of youth or discovering the lost Aztec gold, or...er... sorry again.
I'm taking care of my "trash to treasure" from two days ago - my two puppies afrom the dump. They're so great - toilet training took all of five minutes. They are doing a lot of puppy wrest;aing and I have to careful not to ignore the other four. Cooking chicken and rice for dinner.
Goit a lot of clean-up done today, then took a nap. My right hand is swollen; probably got a bite yesterday while clearing bermuda grass. I looked at it and thought, "Oh, my right front paw is swollen." PAW??!!?? I think I"ve been spending entirely too much time with the dogs.
While on my way into town yesterday I had to pull off the road into the driveway of an abandoned house because they were working on the road. Saw some pomagramete trees and went to look. They were not very good fruit but there was an elephant ear plant growing there. So I know where to go to get leaves for stepping stones and maybe even a piece of tuber.
Moved two of my new plumerias into my new work area.
Yesterday I got seeds for macadamia nuts and malabar chestnuts from a man in Hawaii. Great pictures of the malabar chestnut at tradewindsfruit.com.
Thank you so much...Again, I want to do all of the suggested uses for tumbled glass. I love the thickness of the bottle bottoms and necks...do you tumble these? What would happen if you fired them in the kiln?
Hello all, I have had my tumbler 3 days what fun! Dahtzu i have been using mine to knock the edge of my broken and cut up bottles"thanks Wuvie" I just love running my fingers through the glass no splinters
I have been watching this thread for awhile. You guys are so creative. I do love beach glass and wanted to tell you about a project a local guy was doing. Its awesome.
He takes beach glass and lays it out in a big circle, probably16-20 inches wide. Then he lays out the glass and solders it together and makes these awesome wall hangings out of them. He usually leaves a beer bottle or other kind with the top intact. The latest one he is doing is in a donut shape, rather like making a wreath thing out of it. They are really really pretty and he sells them at at the local farmers market. He sells them for $100 apiece and they sell out. He now has a waiting list and I am on it.
They look fantastic hanging in a window and you clean them by putting them in the top shelf of you dishwasher!
When I get mine I will take a picture and show you guys. One he made using blue and green beach glass and had a big bottom of one of those huge water jars in the center. It was awesome.
I am not clever to do this kind of thing, but I am good to encourage others. Keep going guys, I am loving your creativity.
hey everybody, thanx Wuvie and Denimangle...yes I will tumble some of the glass more some just a little to make a mosaic fountain for my garden...the green piece is from broken glass fruit I have...now if I can only find the rest ,smash and in it goes :*)
HF will replace the belt... but I have been told that the hoover vac belt # 38528-035 is good for making 4 belts .. cheaper then 1 HF belt
I hope my new tumbler doesnt snap belts .. ill have to send it back again :-(
Faye, tumbling does dull the finish. I had a hard time with that at first, but I've decided to use the smooth, dull glass for the creek bed then use some shiney pieces for accents on the cement slab I hope to pour in front of the deck.
On a whim I stopped at the recycle center today. It wasn't on the agenda, but since I was driving by I thought I'd pop in for a few minute's of scrounging. Boy am I glad I did! With that being my 2nd time there I had become a familiar face. The gents working the sorting line stopped to chat with me and I got their interest when I told them about my projects. They then told me they would hold the blue bottles for me if I PROMISED to come back to get them. Then one of the fellows said, "why I've got a blue bottle in my car right now, do you want it? And of course I said yes! I'm not sure if I can break it though 'cause it's such a cool shape. It's the same size around as the regular bottles, but twice as tall. I may have to turn this one into some other project.
I am no expert ...from what I understand the glass takes on a frosty look when tumbled for awhile
...but gets shiny again when wet or oiled...that glass was only tumbled 1 day... btw I did start my fountain:)
Thanks for the tip Cheryl. I thought my first tumbler came with a spare belt, but I'll be darned if I can find it. I wonder how much hassel it will be to get HF to replace it? Will they just send it to me or will I have to return the whole thing? I will definitely pick up the hoover vac belt. How do you cut it to make the 4 seperate belts?
I havent gotten a hoover belt yet so im not sure about the cutting.
I just called HF and told them and they sent me a replacement but I ordered on line .. you might want to call the store where you bought it .