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    Communities > Forums > Bird Identification
    Forum: Bird IdentificationReplies: 19, Views: 222
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    bonitin
    Gent
    Belgium (Zone 8a)

    December 30, 2007 7:30 PM

    Post #4341305

    Some days ago I photographed these quite large birds in a protected nature area, where lots of migrating birds from colder climates overwinter. Its an area that gets flooded during that period, so also lots of migrating water birds..
    These ones I was lucky to observe for a long time as they flocked together in two large trees.

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    bonitin
    Gent
    Belgium (Zone 8a)

    December 30, 2007 7:31 PM

    Post #4341308

    closer by;

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    bonitin
    Gent
    Belgium (Zone 8a)

    December 30, 2007 7:32 PM

    Post #4341310

    another;
    The photo's are not very sharp though as I had no tripod and had difficulty not to tremble from the cold, specially with a telelens..

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    bonitin
    Gent
    Belgium (Zone 8a)

    December 30, 2007 7:34 PM

    Post #4341316

    I was specially intrigued by them because some were spreading there wings and kept these open for a long time and i wondered why they were doing this in such an icy cold freezing day

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    bonitin
    Gent
    Belgium (Zone 8a)

    December 30, 2007 7:37 PM

    Post #4341321

    another;

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    pelletory
    Marlton, NJ

    December 30, 2007 8:13 PM

    Post #4341412

    Very nice pics bonitin!
    pelletory
    Marlton, NJ

    December 30, 2007 8:28 PM

    Post #4341456

    Bonitin,

    They look like Shags to me.

    http://www.birdimages.be/show_details.asp?group=Z&browseCoun...

    Resin

    Resin
    Northumberland
    United Kingdom (Zone 9a)

    December 30, 2007 8:48 PM

    Post #4341515

    Great Cormorant (F: Grand Cormoran; NL: Aalscholver). Too large, and the wrong habitat, for Shag (they are strictly marine).

    Resin
    pelletory
    Marlton, NJ

    December 30, 2007 8:58 PM

    Post #4341536

    LOL,Darn!

    Resin

    Resin
    Northumberland
    United Kingdom (Zone 9a)

    December 30, 2007 9:04 PM

    Post #4341553

    Here's a Shag (at nest with young; August), for comparison:

    Resin

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    Resin

    Resin
    Northumberland
    United Kingdom (Zone 9a)

    December 30, 2007 9:07 PM

    Post #4341559

    And habitat shot . . .

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    pelletory
    Marlton, NJ

    December 30, 2007 9:09 PM

    Post #4341563

    Very nice; thank you.

    They also have a bit of a front crown; right?

    Is that w/ both sexes of Shags?

    Resin

    Resin
    Northumberland
    United Kingdom (Zone 9a)

    December 30, 2007 9:10 PM

    Post #4341567

    Yep, no sex differences.

    Resin
    bonitin
    Gent
    Belgium (Zone 8a)

    December 30, 2007 9:42 PM

    Post #4341626

    Thank you pelletory and Resin!
    Could it not be Phalacrocorax pygmeus ? They were large but not as large as Phalacrocorax aristoteles which is 75cm. They also don't have that tuft on top of their heads.
    But they should at least belong to the genus Phalacrocorax, as I've just read in a book where they describe that typical behaviour of standing with spread wings.


    Resin, in that book they also say that Phalacrocorax pygmeus, (not like the other species which are indeed strictly marine), I translate :
    "habitat; Lakes, pools, slow rivers, marshes and dense woodlands with open sweet watersurfaces. Some overwinter in salt marches..
    ...they gather together cosily in large trees drying their wings."...
    So that also answered my question about that strange habit of standing there with open wings exposing themselves to the elements.. brrrr...


    I going to try to get a closer by view by cropping...
    bonitin
    Gent
    Belgium (Zone 8a)

    December 30, 2007 9:56 PM

    Post #4341654

    Beautiful pics. Resin. I like the decor of the wild cliffs!

    Well, I didn't manage to get a reasonable quality in a cropped version of mine. The trees were far off and very tall and my tele lens is not that powerful and my hands were shaking from the cold...
    But I give it here anyway..

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    Resin

    Resin
    Northumberland
    United Kingdom (Zone 9a)

    December 30, 2007 10:09 PM

    Post #4341688

    Definitely Great Cormorant Phalacrocorax carbo!

    Phalacrocorax pygmeus is much smaller, only the size of a small duck, with a short, stubby bill and a long tail. You would also have to go to the Danube Delta (Romania) to see that many of them! (if I remember rightly, there is a single record for the Netherlands, which is the only one ever seen in northwestern Europe)

    Resin

    PS my pic is from the Farne Islands, northeast England
    bonitin
    Gent
    Belgium (Zone 8a)

    December 30, 2007 10:35 PM

    Post #4341741

    I see what you mean, Resin, you're right, it must be Phalacrocorax carbo. But their size is 90 cm! according to my book.. I must have underestimate it as they were so far off!
    Thanks a lot!!
    Shan71
    Danvers, MA

    January 5, 2008 4:35 PM

    Post #4363545

    Woohoo I was right. I was going to say "looks Cormorantish" lol
    rebecca30
    Cary, NC (Zone 7b)

    January 8, 2008 2:57 AM

    Post #4373932

    Bonitin- very pretty pic. It looks like it could be a album cover pic or something. Looks like a very blue world. Just love your pic. :o)

    r30
    bonitin
    Gent
    Belgium (Zone 8a)

    January 8, 2008 10:37 AM

    Post #4374640

    Thank you Rebecca!

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