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kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

January 5, 2008
5:04 PM

Post #4363640

A while back I asked all of you to give me clues on what to look for in a camera on a limited budget. It now happens that money doesn't enter into the "picture". Heh heh heh (Sorry, that was bad.)

If you could get the camera of your dreams, what would it be? What sort of accessories would you get? Printers? Paper? Tell me all.

Thanks, Kwanjin
pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 5, 2008
8:02 PM

Post #4364187

Good question.

Probably a Canon Mark3 or Canon 40D EOS camera

Lens-Canon 600mm prime lens w/ Image stabilization and a 1.4 teleconverter.

Other lenses,Canon 100-400mm IS, along with a macro lens.

I don't know the slightest thing about printers. :-)

kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

January 5, 2008
9:12 PM

Post #4364465

Thanks, Pelletory.

Canon says this about the EOS 40D...

"Features
Superb image quality: 10.1 Megapixel CMOS Sensor, extensive noise reduction technology, and 14-bit conversion for outstanding color tones and gradations.
Outstanding performance: 6.5 fps, burst rate up to 75 consecutive JPEGs or 17 RAW images and DIGIC III Image Processor.
Strong, rugged build quality: magnesium-alloy exterior, shutter durability-tested to 100,000 cycles, top speed 1/8000, top x-sync speed 1/250.
New AF system with 9 cross-type sensors, and world's first diagonal high-precision cross-type AF at center point with f/2.8 and faster lenses.
EOS Integrated Cleaning System, Picture Style settings, Spot metering, and Highlight Tone Priority for advanced in-camera image control.
Large 3.0-inch LCD monitor and advanced Live View Function with new options for reduced shutter time lag and quiet operation.
Wide range of accessories, including interchangeable focusing screens, extensive remote control options, new battery grip BG-E2N, and new dedicated wireless file transmitter WFT-E3A."

It looks great to me but I'm a newbie. Some of the stuff I learned earlier applies to this one. It's at the top or near the top of my list now.

Anyone else?

hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 6, 2008
12:20 AM

Post #4365133

The Canon 1Ds Mark III (21 MP, ~$8K) would be sweet for an ultimate camera but it would really be hard to justify. I would stick with the 40D for now.

For big bucks, the Hasselblad H3D-39 (39 MP, ~ $33K to $45K) sells for the price of a fairly nice, new car. How many do you want on your order?

kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

January 6, 2008
1:20 AM

Post #4365359

Three!!! But seriously, I'm coming into some inheritance money and would like to get really nice one.

I did buy a small camera today. It's a Canon PowerShot SX100 IS. I'm learning about it now. I can change the ISO from 80 to 1600, it has face recognition I can turn on and off, macro functions and a whole range of other features. I have to look at it some more.

I'm still looking for another, though.
PanamonCreel
Celaya
Mexico
(Zone 10a)


January 6, 2008
3:28 AM

Post #4365981

Well I would not go overboard so a Nikon D300 would do nicely with the additional battery grip to get to the 8 fps.
Lenses well there my mouth starts to water, the Nikkor 18-200VR as an Universal lens, Nikkor 105VR Macro ( I love it), Nikkor 200-400VR for mobile Wildlife scare, Prime Nikkor 600VR / Sigma 300-800 for Wildlife scare where less mobility is required (or a caddy who carries the equipment for you).
As for accessories a bluetooth gps with an foolography unleashed module to get the location data recorded on the picture Exif, a smaller light carbon fiber tripod with ball head for mobile, a more solid aluminum or CF tripod with a Gimbal head (Wimberly or Jobu Design) for the large lenses, oh and did I mention a caddy to carry it all :).
I could go on and on but I'll stop for now :)
ceejaytown
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 6, 2008
4:08 AM

Post #4366083

Of course, we all love what we have, but I second pelletory, since I have the Canon 30D and the 100-400 mm lens and I LOVE them. I am also very fond of my Canon 17-55 mm f/2.8 lens. especially for indoor shots. Both have stabilizers.

I would love to have a top of the line Manfrotto tripod.

I'm a big HP fan when it comes to printers.
cgarvin
Cottage Grove, OR
(Zone 8a)

January 6, 2008
6:26 AM

Post #4366422

the 40d at least is a must have, buy a couple fast zooms from 16 up to 200mm, IS is always a plus and if your really into wildlife splurge the extra 3k for a 300mm f2.8 and a teleconverter, as always a 200$ tripod may be the best money spent for sharp pics. at least thats whats on my shopping list if my budget became unimportant.
hope this helps, caleb

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Zen_Man
Ottawa, KS
(Zone 5b)

January 6, 2008
7:23 AM

Post #4366508

If I had the money, it would be the Nikon D3, for many reasons, including the ISO can be pushed to 25,600 to get fast shutter speeds in low light conditions (useful for sports under low light conditions). http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond3/

MM
rylaff
Niceville, FL
(Zone 8b)

January 7, 2008
2:00 AM

Post #4369359

I just got the camera I have been lusting after, Canon 40D. Now I am lusting after the macro lens and a telephoto lens. It came with the 28-135.
cgarvin
Cottage Grove, OR
(Zone 8a)

January 7, 2008
2:17 AM

Post #4369448

I have a 20d and have been lusting for the 40D as well, If you can get the 17-55 IS f2.8 i've heard is a great lens, and the 70-200 IS f2.8 and a teleconverter is equal to a 300 f4 plus the crop on your camera gives you a 480 f4 cant beat that. I bought a kenko auto extension tube set makes any regular lens into a macro. and cheap to boot, got mine on ebay for about 65$, lets you get very very close
Caleb

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ceejaytown
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 7, 2008
2:21 AM

Post #4369463

That's my next purchase, along with a remote.
mistygardener
Saint James, MO
(Zone 6b)

January 7, 2008
2:24 AM

Post #4369473

I just thought I would let ya all know that kwanjin had a death in the family and is out of town for right now. Our thoughts and prayers are with her!
rylaff
Niceville, FL
(Zone 8b)

January 7, 2008
1:07 PM

Post #4370540

Along with me 40d, I got the 8 meg Extreme memory card. Holds lots and lots and transfers very fast. Recommended for higher end DSLRs.
Cgarvin, I think I am going to try those extension tubes.
ceejaytown
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 7, 2008
11:49 PM

Post #4372881

I got 2 2gigs, and 1 4 gig. I was afraid something might happen to the one card, and then I wouldn't be able to take photos until I got it replaced. This way, if one should break down or whatever, I have backups. Took these with me to Africa, and would be downloading my day's shots from one while using another. It took them quite awhile to download those big files. I took around 2,500 photos in two weeks! I also use the Extreme cards for fastest response from my camera when taking photos.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 8, 2008
1:20 AM

Post #4373388

Smart move on multiple cards instead of one giant one. I bought my Canon 20D nearly two years ago (hope to get the 40D in a couple of months) and went to Miami a couple of months later with one 2 GB card and no laptop. I had to erase some pictures on this card and go down on the size of the pictures to squeeze a few more pictures on it.

So when I went to Thailand a year and a half ago I had two 2 GB cards and took a laptop - glad I did since we shot over 3,000 pictures in 12 days. So each night I would download all the pictures and delete them from the cards to be ready for the next day - I had no problems with this set up. I burned CDs before returning since I had no DVD burner on the little laptop I took with me - what a bummer. I bought a personal laptop after that trip with a DVD burner and take it on any long trips.

I bought one more 2 GB card but haven't had to use it at all (except trying it out), but on a long vacation it would come in handy. I am so glad prices have fallen a lot on memory cards - just a few years ago a 256 MB card (normal speed) was around $100 and I thought that was a bargain.

kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

January 8, 2008
1:24 AM

Post #4373422

Thanks, Tam. You're very sweet!

So, it looks like the 40D is going to be the camera of choice here. It does all the things I would like and then some.

kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

January 8, 2008
1:24 AM

Post #4373429

Point taken on the extra memory cards, too.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 8, 2008
1:28 AM

Post #4373450

Nikon D300 is what I'm lusting after. Any spare inheritance??
mistygardener
Saint James, MO
(Zone 6b)

January 8, 2008
2:35 AM

Post #4373820

You are quite welcome, C!
JoanMN
Pine City, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 10, 2008
4:10 AM

Post #4382505

Canon 40D, 70-200 F4L IS USM lens (oh, wait, I have that lens and LOVE it!), and some other L lenses. A good Canon printer, one that would print big pictures.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 10, 2008
12:44 PM

Post #4383027

Like that Canon printer (imagePROGRAF iPF9100) that prints 60 inch wide prints and as long as the paper roll is? For a mere $15,000 it can be yours. The weight is close to 550 pounds.

The 44 inch wide printer is 1/3 the price though.

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/17382/canon-imageprograf-printers/

pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 10, 2008
1:02 PM

Post #4383067

ROTFLOL! You guys are a hoot!
JoanMN
Pine City, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 11, 2008
4:17 AM

Post #4386023

Hmmm, don't think I'd want that printer, even if $ was no object!
linthicum
Linthicum Heights, MD
(Zone 7a)

January 19, 2008
2:50 AM

Post #4423026

A statement/position on printers ... I have a printer that I use strictly for documents and an occasional photo that I need right away. My attitude is that it is cheaper to have a business print my photos than it is for me to print them on my printer. The cost of printer, ink and photo paper add up. And, which photo will have the best longevity ?

In regard to "if money was of no concern" ... If I was spending $10,000, I would spend $3,000 on a camera and $7,000 on a lens. A better lens is more important than a better camera. And, a good photographer can take an inexpensive camera and lens and produce quality results. More will not necessarily produce better. If only I practiced what I preach !

kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

January 19, 2008
5:17 AM

Post #4423469

Truer words were never spoken!
GoldenDomer
Northern, IN

January 19, 2008
3:21 PM

Post #4424381

Amen.

kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

June 6, 2008
5:13 PM

Post #5063362

For those still watching this thread...

Last night I purchased a Nikon D60. It has AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G Vibration Reduction lens, continuous shooting at 3 fps, active dust reduction system with airflow control, ISO 100-1600, shutter speed 1/4000 to 30 seconds, more...It will definitely be a learning curve here! LOL But then, that's half the fun!

I'm drooling! I don't have it in my hand yet! It's being delivered in a couple of days to the store where I purchased it.
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

June 28, 2008
10:15 AM

Post #5171825

How's the Nikon, kwanjin?

kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

June 28, 2008
9:05 PM

Post #5174239

Oh, I am LOVING it! LOL So many things it can do. I also got a Sigma 70-300 lens for it.

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