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dave
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
 January 07, 2008
05:50 AM Post #4370342
| There are a total of 621 votes:
| Yes- no matter the cost
(65 votes, 10%) |  |
| Yes, but only if __________ (please tell us what it is)
(295 votes, 47%) | |
| I'm sorry, there's no way I could attend
(252 votes, 40%) | |
| I don't like this idea at all (please tell us why)
(9 votes, 1%) | |
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Previous PollsWe want your input!
The first ever Dave's Garden Expo is in the planning stages and we would like to hear from you! The date is tentatively Spring '09, the distance would be within 500 miles of Dave. We hope to have vendors, an honorary dinner, sessions, lessons, lectures, tours, family, and fun.
Before you give a careful and thoughtful answer, please keep in mind that the cost of hotels, transportation, food, and a registration fee would be your responsibility.
Would you attend? |
Mr_Crocosmia
Caistor, United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
05:52 AM Post #4370343
| We would love to attend the party but only if we can afford it... costs a fortune to get from the UK to the party!!!!!! |
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour, Australia
January 07, 2008
06:10 AM Post #4370350
| I'd come if you bring it to Australia. You can all stay at my house! Bring a tent.
Where does Dave live anyway, and whats 500 miles in Kilometres? |
Mr_Crocosmia
Caistor, United Kingdom
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
06:26 AM Post #4370362
| I think Dave comes from Texas...
500miles is 805 kilometers |
Dyson
Rocky Mount, VA
(Zone 7a)
January 07, 2008
06:33 AM Post #4370365
| If I can get off work. |
SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
06:59 AM Post #4370391
| I might go if it was in a location of interest so that I could make a mini vacation out of it. |
threegardeners
North Augusta, ON
(Zone 5a)
January 07, 2008
07:16 AM Post #4370415
| Same as above, if I can afford it at the time and make a mini vacation out of it. Also, if DH doesn't mind me going alone... |
MiniPonyFarmer
Gilmer, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
07:39 AM Post #4370428
| I could only attend IF:
The party was within 100 miles of my home.
What "type" of party is this? Is it a plant exchange or are we talking nightlife? Are there learning projects with presentations by speakers? Or is this simply a social event? |
LostIndian
Algonac, MI
January 07, 2008
07:39 AM Post #4370429
| Not enough info to make a sound decision. |
momof2d
Des Moines, IA
(Zone 5a)
January 07, 2008
07:53 AM Post #4370441
| Love to! But most likely cant afford to go "unless", someone drives from Iowa & I can "hitch" a ride! :) |
Hyblaean
Niles, IL
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
08:04 AM Post #4370449
| I'd love to come, if it's over a school holiday, and within a couple of hours of Kerrville, TX so we can stay with family. |
ginnylynn
Blyth, ON
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
08:20 AM Post #4370469
| Much as I would very much love to attend I will not be able to. If it was going to be held more centrally, and therefore closer to me, then perhaps I could, but I will be unable to afford the cost or the time away from work during one of our busiest periods of the year.
Sorry,
--Ginny |
Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
09:04 AM Post #4370535
| I love the idea, I am there if it happens. I retire this spring!
But...
I have read some of the discussion threads associated with the event. I don't know if there are as many people aware of it as some of you think. Your poll may be a bit premature to get an accurate feel of participation. Maybe you should have added a choice of "have you heard about the possibility of a garden party in 2009?" |
Rusty56
Jasper Co., MO
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
09:29 AM Post #4370601
| No matter of cost is... I go for travel to see or attend... |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 07, 2008
09:31 AM Post #4370607
| http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/799610/
This is the thread we are talking about, there is no date set other than 2009, there is no place set - other then 500 miles of Dave - we are looking for ideas and people who might be willing to get this get together started.
This message was edited Jan 7, 2008 7:44 AM |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 07, 2008
09:35 AM Post #4370620
| I agree with SongsofJoy - a trip like that with its inherent expenses would only be worth it for me if there was another reason for visiting that particular place (family, friends, a fabulous Botanical Garden to visit etc etc) to justify the cost. |
roseone33
Southern Mountains, GA
(Zone 6b)
January 07, 2008
09:38 AM Post #4370632
| Makes more sense to go to a local flower and garden expo, such as the Philadelphia Flower show or the Southeastern Flower show in Atlanta. |
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
09:42 AM Post #4370640
| I think 500 miles from Dave would still be in Texas. Even tho I am in Texas, the answer would have to be no. Cost and time is a primary factor here, not to mention the selfishness to my spouse who humors my plants fetish. I could not justify this ~ sorry! |
MsKatt
Mid-Michigan, MI
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
09:48 AM Post #4370665
| I would love to, but 500 miles from Dave is still a long ways from Michigan! Most likely to expensive...would have to drag DH and kids along and I doubt there would be anything interesting for them to do or see (plus would have to pull them out of school).
Maybe make it a traveling expo??? One in every state or region? Just thinking out loud...kind of what Taste of Home magazine does with their cooking expos.
Michelle in Michigan |
lourspolaire
Delray Beach, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 07, 2008
09:50 AM Post #4370671
| I will go because I have racked up enough points on my credit card to fly there free. There will be way more points in there at the Spring of 2009.
I am by no means independently wealthy but I do have a travel and vacation budget. I can see it from here: I'll get myself a nice hotel, rent a big car, eat in nice restaurants, attend lectures and social events this party will organise. I'll visit a botanical garden or two and make a mini-vacation out of it. No way am I flying to Texas for 2 or 3 days!
I may even drive and see other DGers' places if I can swing an invitation or two. I have a few people in mind already. I am told texans are very welcoming people.
My wife's health stops us from making plans so far ahead for her but I'm a big boy and I can travel alone.
While I was editing this post, Michelle from Michigan mentionned having to take the kids out of school and DH. For most people, taking a couple days off their daily life would require some arrangements at home. That is not always easy but it's also not impossible. Maybe we could look into having members travelling alone share a room at the hotel, thereby reducing the lodging costs. Someone could register with a "sharing coordinator" who would facilitate such arrangements. I'm just thinking out lout here but that kind of thing may help. The same goes for sharing driving expenses. A "drive sharing coordinator" could facilite such arrangements also.
Sylvain.
This message was edited Jan 7, 2008 9:09 AM |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 07, 2008
09:50 AM Post #4370674
| There will be tons to see and do! This will happen in a major area with thought given to those who dont go for the plants too - and there is not a time of year set yet!
Dont foget there is no time set yet beyond 2009 - we need you to tell us when would be the best time of year to have this!! |
MsKatt
Mid-Michigan, MI
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
09:56 AM Post #4370702
| I guess I just really need more information. |
jenhillphoto
Danbury, CT
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
09:58 AM Post #4370716
| There's really not enough info for me to say. Like others, unless it was in a location of interest, so that it could be a mini vaca, I can't justify (monetarily) flying out to TX for a party. Also, the time of year would be a huge factor for me. October-February is my busy work season, so I can't go anywhere even if it were a free trip to Paris! |
JaxFlaGardener
Jacksonville, FL
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
10:20 AM Post #4370792
| I have long thought that a DG national convention was long overdue. I would make every effort to attend. With enough notice, I could begin saving up for the travel expenses. It would be nice if the city chosen has a good botanical garden, but if the conference was filled with interesting workshops and plant swaps, that would be enough for me.
Jeremy |
dryad57
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
10:26 AM Post #4370806
| I will be there with bells on, if I can. I'm a self-employed landscape designer, so any kind of get-together during "season" has to be scheduled enough in advance, and affordable, so that I can work it into the schedule and my budget. The opportunity to be able to meet and talk gardening with so many DGers from areas other than my RU is too tempting!! (And I'll probably drive, so car-pooling is a possibility as well.)
This message was edited Jan 7, 2008 12:42 PM |
grampapa
Wheatfield, NY
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
10:33 AM Post #4370844
| I had to say no, reluctantly, because my health prevents my travelling. If not, I'd hop on a plane wherever it was. Never been to Texas and have lots of relatives in San Antone that I've never even met (although I suspect the party won't be anywheres near there LOL) |
Marylyn_TX
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 07, 2008
10:44 AM Post #4370883
| Here's a link to a post with a map I made showing what is within 500 miles of Dave: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4215891
I'd love to attend if we can afford it. |
Kassia
Framingham, MA
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
10:45 AM Post #4370890
| sure Dave! I have been to CA for a RU sure I would go to TX! |
Rusty56
Jasper Co., MO
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
10:58 AM Post #4370934
| I have been met Dave in Southern California DG RU... |
llilyfan
South Central, IA
(Zone 5a)
January 07, 2008
11:13 AM Post #4370987
| Didn't even vote because there was no 'WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT' category |
marie_
West Central, WI
(Zone 4a)
January 07, 2008
11:16 AM Post #4370999
| I would love to go...but...it would depend on possible time conflicts as well as the expense. |
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)
January 07, 2008
11:18 AM Post #4371010
| I checked "yes if", but that was because I didn't see the part about being 500 miles from Dave until I'd already voted. My "if" was that it has to be within a 6-7 hr drive from the San Francisco area, and I don't think there's anywhere where those two intersect! So I guess count me as a no then. The other "if" for me would be that the registration needs to be less than $100, it's going to cost enough for travel, hotels, etc so the registration would need to be cheap. |
cathy4
St. Louis County, MO
(Zone 5a)
January 07, 2008
11:22 AM Post #4371021
| I marked yes, only if...cost & health will be my major stumbling block. I would love to come.
thanks for the 500 mile circle, marilyn. |
phuggins
Fairmont, WV
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
11:24 AM Post #4371024
| Me too, I'd love to go if it was within a day's drive of WV...which I guess it's not...oh well, maybe when I win the lottery! :)
pam |
sugarweed
Jacksonville, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 07, 2008
11:26 AM Post #4371026
| Marylyn,
Memphis is a great place for a meeting. I believe rooms are reasonable, the sights range from a large gaggle of Casinos just south of the border in Mississippi.
The historical carrage rides in downtown and other Mississippi River stuff.
I don't recall gardens, but believe they have many art and other historical significance.
Fairly central for the East half of the US.
If scheduled far enough in advance almost anyone can get advance air tickets reasonable. I went to a national convention in 2005. My round trip to Chicago with one trip non-stop was $100.
Just MHO
;) |
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
11:27 AM Post #4371027
| We would come, but only if it were in an area with reasonable camping available or inexpensive hotels. I don't know how anyone could choose "nomatter the cost". I'd love to live in that world! ;) |
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
11:41 AM Post #4371072
| I'm with Gardenwife...on the cost. I'll be there if I can afford it...and the cost of registration is not too costly...and my health holds!! Jo |
Jazzpunkin
Springfield, OH
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
12:06 PM Post #4371141
| I would love to come. My If's are cost related since it's too far for us to drive unless we took a week off of work. That isn't totally out of the question but just needs to be planned for. Flying ss way too costly unless it were a place that Skybus goes to.. lol..
I can see Dave keeping it in Tx.. WHy not? Or else alternating locations each year like other national organizations do. If we need to keep it within 500 miles of Dave then we surely aren't getting out of Texas.. lol..
I am going to say sing me up. With over a year to plan I can do it |
NYVOICES99
Corning, NY
(Zone 5a)
January 07, 2008
12:14 PM Post #4371167
| I would love to attend, but I had to say no, as I know it would be impossible for me to travel that far, now if I could get over the fear of flying between now & then, maybe. will keep a watch on the other thread about it & see what you all decide.
:)Anita |
ginnylynn
Blyth, ON
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
12:14 PM Post #4371169
| I could make it if it were in Memphis. I can drive there and I love Tennessee and North Carolina. I've vacationed there many times.
--Ginny |
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
12:17 PM Post #4371181
| I have a Dave's Garden Coffee mug sitting in a conspicous place in my kitchen...I have now started to put my extra change in it for this trip...I hope I will have to turn the change into cash many times before the Expo. That mug fills up rather fast! Jo |
JaxFlaGardener
Jacksonville, FL
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
12:30 PM Post #4371230
| For cities within the 500 mile radius that Marilyn provided, I vote for Paris (Texas), just so when people ask where I'm going, I can say "Paris" and let them think what they will. LOL
Jeremy |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 07, 2008
12:56 PM Post #4371302
| I voted YES - but only if: It's not held during a winter month when it's cold. |
Marcy_1
New Madison, OH
(Zone 5a)
January 07, 2008
12:57 PM Post #4371312
| I would go, IF I can talk my DH into it! He doesn't fly...won't fly...so we would have to drive...and I doubt he would do that either. Actually, he doesn't like to leave his own bed...lol! But I would love to come. Can't do it by myself though...I don't think.
Have to think about it some more!! |
Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)
January 07, 2008
01:06 PM Post #4371341
| I've to vote no, because of the distance. Even if we'd plan for a trip within 500 miles radius of our local range. There will be many a meetings on different regions. I do love the idea of get together with other DGers, thus for now, I'll stay within our RU plans and attend those that I can. Enjoy the pics. and posts from others' that are too far away from home. |
2pugdogs
(Linda) Winfield, KS
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
01:07 PM Post #4371346
| I would love to attend if the cost isn't to much, I'm mainly talking about things like gas prices, and motel rates. |
fsrstarr
Norwood, MO
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
01:28 PM Post #4371420
| I want to come! The only thing that would hold me back is location and cost...
I would want to drive to save money, and I get mixed up in huge cities... that would deter me. If I had aways to drive from the hotel to the RU site that would be hard... I will try to find someone to come with me and drive if it is in a large city... |
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)
January 07, 2008
01:31 PM Post #4371430
| I would love to attend. I am willing to help even if I can't make it. Cheap airline tickets can be acquired if one looks far enough in advance. Also, if the date is not around a holiday or "spring break" the tickets would be considerably cheaper. Memphis would be best for me. I could drive there. That would save car rental. It might be helpful if there were car pools. I would not be able to do very much outside in the sun especially if it's in the hottest time of the year. Going South in the colder months would be welcome. I have dermatomyositis which is a real curse for a gardener, but I don't let it stop me. "Don't let what you can't do get in the way of what you can do". I would enjoy the activites and meeting other gardeners. So, I answered "yes, if". The "if" would be if I am physically able. I am planning on going, God willing. This kind of "vacation" would be the best. So, really, I guess that's a "YES". |
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)
January 07, 2008
01:33 PM Post #4371436
| fsrstarr, in the meantime shop for a GPS--they are wonderful! |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 07, 2008
01:36 PM Post #4371444
| Oh thanks for the map MArilyn_TX - how about NEW ORLEANS!!! I would come to see that. Haven't been there in about 28 years and I know it has changed but would love to revisit that area.
I guess if we were to go to that part of the world it would have to be in spring.
Corpus Christi is really nice too, and I have friends in that area so that would give me more motivation to come.
This message was edited Jan 7, 2008 12:38 PM |
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)
January 07, 2008
01:36 PM Post #4371447
| Is there anyway to change my vote to yes. I think the organizers need more of a commitment to get this off the ground. Since we have so much time, we can start saving now and make plans for transportation. |
Sashagirl
by the Muddy Miss., IA
(Zone 5a)
January 07, 2008
01:42 PM Post #4371463
| I would go if it was up to 150 miles away, and I could drive there and back in the same day.
Registration would need to be fairly reasonable, also. |
amethystsm
New Haven, CT
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
01:53 PM Post #4371498
| depends on all the usual stuff - where, when, how much $...?
i never know where next month will take me, much less next year!
amy
* |
bagel_k
Central, NJ
(Zone 6b)
January 07, 2008
02:02 PM Post #4371522
| I'd love to come if cost is reasonable, and if I could get away from work. |
geneivy
Kyle, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
02:06 PM Post #4371535
| In re meetings, is anyone going to the North Texas Nursery Growers Association expo in Dallas/Ft. Worth area? http://www.ntnga.com |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
02:14 PM Post #4371566
| Wish I qualified. |
blue_eyes
Bryan, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
02:19 PM Post #4371583
| Sounds like cost is the recurring theme here. I'm all for low cost as well, although i am in TX, and would most likely attend. It would have to be over a weekend or a school break most likely for me. |
Dhaila
Haldawani, India
January 07, 2008
02:23 PM Post #4371598
| It is very far from my place, I can not attend it as I can't afford the cost of travel. I wish it were some where close, approx 500 miles. I would still attend if I get a free Air ticket, to and fro? It could still be possible if all the Good-Samaritan contribute :-) |
Garden4ever
Plymouth, WI
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
02:40 PM Post #4371657
| Regretfully no, I would not be able to go. It is too far to justify to my DH and I know its not an interest he would share in. We try to do things together. But it sounds so fun! |
frostweed
Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
03:03 PM Post #4371721
| I voted Yes, because I live the idea, and I love Dave's garden and all the friends I have met here. There is plenty of time to save and arrange for it. God willing I will be there.
Josephine. |
VA_Wild_Rose
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7a)
January 07, 2008
03:05 PM Post #4371724
| Yes... but many factors would be involved in a definite yes. Distance, hotel, time off, etc, etc.
I would love to go though!!! |
MsKatt
Mid-Michigan, MI
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
03:06 PM Post #4371726
| If it were held in Memphis, I could drive. I could also rent a big ol' van and anyone on the route (or slightly off) that wanted to hitch a ride would be welcome.
Michelle in Michigan |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
03:16 PM Post #4371764
| I voted yes, I will be there. Still mostly depends on certain factors but I will make every effort I can to be there. |
Nan
SW, WI
(Zone 4b)
January 07, 2008
03:29 PM Post #4371812
| Miss work AND spend money on a trip? (Oh, I guess that would normally be called a vacation, (LOL!) but that's a foreign word to me and my family!)
A nice idea, but not one that fits into our budget:(
|
AuntAnne
College Station, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
03:30 PM Post #4371814
| God willing and the creek don't rise. I'll be there.
Anne |
chrissy100
Sydney, Australia
January 07, 2008
03:42 PM Post #4371842
| Sad to say too far away ...but I hope it eventuates for you all good luck!
chrissy |
HollyAnnS
Dover, PA
(Zone 6b)
January 07, 2008
03:54 PM Post #4371877
| We would be interested and likely to come. Awaiting more details. |
MyRee
Brigham City, UT
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
04:14 PM Post #4371935
| My Sweetheart has told me for over 32 years that he is going to take me to Texas. He spent over 2 years there before we were married and he says he wants to take me there. Well, why not for the expo? (Except he is not a gardener). No matter when it is, some/most of us will have to get someone to care for our gardens at home. I would love to come, but, still not fully committed, I would have to see the agenda.
I would help plan if you can think of anything I can do from home.
Marie
YEA, My sweetie just said sure when I asked him if he will take me. :)
This message was edited Jan 7, 2008 2:16 PM |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
04:34 PM Post #4372013
| This is from the link posted above. Hopefully, it will give you some help.
| Quoted: | Ok guys and dolls, We have already been contacting convention bureaus, hotels, gardens, lots of things. They don't even want to discuss it with us without an estimate of attendance. Since this is the first time, we have no history to fall back on. The more that attend, the lower the price. Don't expect the "gate" price to be much of anything. Will be drawing from our membership for forums, etc. Full service hotels provide breakfast with the room rate. They also provide free shuttles from airports. The larger number of rooms that are blocked for us, the cheaper the bed rate. Would possibly have pre-fix dinners on Friday and Saturday to lock in the cost. Some garden tours accomodate large numbers, some don't. You can see the delima. We have not been sitting still waiting for magic to put this together. Vendors will not participate if the numbers are small. You can understand it is expensive for them and they use their monies judiciously. This is a lot more complicated than an RU. Hopefully it will be equally laid back and fun. The vote starts Monday, Jan. 7th. Remember, no matter what a vote is for, your one vote can make the difference.
Happy New Year! See you in 2009. (that is face to face)
Christi |
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broncbuster
Waxahachie, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
05:13 PM Post #4372174
| I'll go: if we can have it on the moon so everyone's traveling distance is the same.
...if the facility has a smoking area on the premises.
...if we can have a parade the morning before.
...if Coors or Jim Beam is one of the sponsors AND they supply free "refreshments".
...if dogs and kids have free admission.
...if everyone comes to my house afterwards for the after party.
No, but seriously, I'll come if I know soon enough in advance. So, hurry up and let me know! Dang! |
DawninTx
Nevada, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
05:16 PM Post #4372185
| Barring the unforeseen, I would definitely go. I'm in Texas, so anyplace within 500 miles of Dave would probably be the same for me. I don't mind driving. I've been known to drive up to 4 hours to visit a good nursery, and drive cross country once or twice a year. I'd also be willing to share the ride with someone. (or two)
Dallas/ Fort Worth would be a great location. There is the Dallas Arboretum and Fort Worth Botanical Gardens. Lots to see and do besides gardening. Would also be willing to drive to Memphis. I see several people show an interest in that area as well. |
marsue
Cabot, AR
(Zone 7b)
January 07, 2008
05:20 PM Post #4372203
| Like so many others, for me it depends on where, when, etc. Too many IFS to say for certain right now. |
Chantell
Middle of, VA
(Zone 7a)
January 07, 2008
05:25 PM Post #4372220
| As the same with others...will depend on location...what a great idea though!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love our Mid Atlantic get togethers! |
digigirl
Sugar Land, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 07, 2008
05:29 PM Post #4372248
| Would attend if at all able - which means cost, location, schedule, etc. But am certainly interested! Would be great to see DGers from all over the country! |
Islandshari
Kwajalein, Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 07, 2008
06:10 PM Post #4372441
| For many, I definately understand that circumstances may prevent you from coming, but for many that are saying it depends on cost, getting off from work etc...we are talking 2009...over a year of planning and preparation time. As Jo (Roadrunner) said above, I will fill my cup with spare change, coupon savings, whatever...its amazing how much you can gather up in over a year! This is something I know I would enjoy, and having had the pleasure of meeting SOME DGers, my DH will enjoy it as well. If it is only for a few days, or a weekend, our gardens will be ok...pet and child sitters can be arranged...
If enough of us want to do it, it will be done. Somehow. The committee is working very hard to keep costs down and interesting activities up. I don't care if I am sharing a tent with 12 other DGers, or in the Ritz in a penthouse suite, I will be there...I will find a way. |
polska
Magnolia, NJ
January 07, 2008
06:14 PM Post #4372453
| none at this time |
doccat5
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7b)
January 07, 2008
06:15 PM Post #4372455
| For us cost and distance is definitely a factor. We would have to be able to plan well in advance as I don't believe driving would be a good option for us. And I have to make arrangements on this end for my furbabies for that length of time. |
roybird
Santa Fe, NM
January 07, 2008
07:10 PM Post #4372724
| I think it might be possible but I would need to combine it with other vacation activities. If you are asking if I Would go if I Could go, then, yeah. The price of gas would matter to me. Also not sure if D.H. would be interested unless it took place in an area with movie theaters, good food ( altho he eats everything but shellfish ) and internet connections. Hard to know much about 2009. |
fancyvan
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)
January 07, 2008
07:52 PM Post #4372894
| Too far away. DG has members all over North America. What about a more central location?
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LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
08:02 PM Post #4372947
| MAY I EMPHASIS ONCE AGAIN. NO LOCATION HAS BEEN DETERMINED. |
essentialplanet
Wilsonville, OR
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
08:13 PM Post #4372989
| Impossible to answer without a location, for me it would have to be near enough to drive.
edited: and clearly I see now that since Dave's is in Texas that is not about to happen... Oh, well. Another time perhaps.
This message was edited Jan 7, 2008 7:10 PM |
SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
08:15 PM Post #4373001
| I thought the location was 500 miles from Dave, which most likely means Texas??? |
bluekat76
Ijamsville, MD
(Zone 6b)
January 07, 2008
08:17 PM Post #4373014
| As long as there is a major airport nearby! |
1cros3nails4gvn
Bluffton, SC
(Zone 9a)
January 07, 2008
08:20 PM Post #4373035
| if i could get the money and the means to go out there, as i'm still a minor. |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 07, 2008
08:29 PM Post #4373070
| There are several states in the 500 miles area. |
Sofonisba
Putnam County, NY
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
08:32 PM Post #4373092
| I'd love to come no matter what the cost, but to be realistic, after the cost of transportation and hotels, I could swing maybe $50 for registration and other costs... eep! |
3gardeners
Mableton, GA
(Zone 7a)
January 07, 2008
08:38 PM Post #4373127
| Thanks for the Map. It helps tremendously!
I would LOVE to go. I would want it to have seminars, plants sales, plant trades in another area ... it would be GREAT!
The only place I WOULDN'T go is New Orleans. Hate it!
Also, I wouldn't want it to be in hot weather with high humidity...unless it was all indoors!... but that would cut out local nurseries...just contemplating out loud. :)
Memphis is great. But watch out for summer. High temps on the Miss River are really uncomforetable. (I'm originally from MS) I'll bet just about anywhere would be good in the spring though. Their annual BBQ contest is in May (Memphis in May). I've also heard San Antonio is neat. Seems there are several great options within 500 miles.
Location is certainly key. I'm with all that say the spot should offer lots of entertainment so it can be a mini vacation of sorts.
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gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 07, 2008
09:02 PM Post #4373249
| I would love to go and will if I don't have to fly! Airplanes and I don't go together. Since I am in Texas I am hoping the group is aiming for the middle of Texas. In that case I wouldn't 'not go' for any reason.
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AuntAnne
College Station, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
09:11 PM Post #4373321
| The truth is that really no matter where it is, there will be people for whom it is too far. If it were on the east coast it would be too far for folks on the west coast. If it were on the west coast then too far for those on the east coast. North or south is the same. Even if it were smack dab in the middle of the whole country it would be too far for someone, not to mention DGrs from other countries. So the first one will be within a 500 mile radius of the Bryan/College Station area. The one in 2010 can be somewhere else further north, south, east or west. Truth is, even if it is 500 miles away from here, I'm still going to do my darnedest to be there. Just my 2 cents.
Anne |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
09:14 PM Post #4373342
| Bless your heart, Anne. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein, Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 07, 2008
09:14 PM Post #4373352
| !! Amen, Aunt Anne!! Well said! |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
09:15 PM Post #4373359
| I agree wholeheartly Anne!!! |
tabasco
Cincinnati (Anderson, OH
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
09:15 PM Post #4373361
|
I would go if I could pair the 'Garden Party' with a trip to visit family or friends in the region (and I can probably wangle invitations from them)...
Or guessing it will be in TX, pairing it with an adventure to the International Butterfly Garden or a Birding Tour or something like that...
Sounds like fun! Thanks for getting it off the ground! |
cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)
January 07, 2008
09:16 PM Post #4373363
| If I knew where Dave's is, if I can afford it and IF DH would come with. If its in TX anywhere near Gustine?????? I have an Aunt and Uncle there...a cousin or two as well... Combining fun with a family visit would be alright by me.
This message was edited Jan 7, 2008 7:17 PM |
gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 07, 2008
09:17 PM Post #4373371
| I was thinking you wanted honest answers and that is what I was trying to do. If it is in Dallas, I can't drive 81/2 hours with three bad discs in my back and two in my neck. I didn't intend to share my health with everyone. I just thought you wanted some firm honest feedback. |
garden6
Lansing, KS
(Zone 5b)
January 07, 2008
09:22 PM Post #4373406
| I would love to join the party...my only hesitation of course would be if DH is traveling outside the US. Just a personal commitment to never travel far from the pumpkins if DH is overseas! Otherwise, a fun adventure and garden party to enjoy!! |
tortoisekeeper
Cookeville, TN
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
09:33 PM Post #4373474
| If the cost is not too much. |
Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 07, 2008
09:35 PM Post #4373486
| 2009 seems like a long way off to make a comittment, but things like this take time.
The Fort Worth / Dallas area has Bass Proformance Hall, Nascar, Lone Star Park (horse races), world renown Museums, great Zoos and Gardens. All close to Airports, loads of hotels, camping, & nature trails.
I would also see loads of opportunities in Memphis, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, & Little Rock also.
The reason for the 500 mile radius is that THE DAVE of DG is willing to come if it isn't any further than that. There is a lot of you that haven't met him, right??? Take a look at the map again, anyone undecided. The only place I wouldn't consider is south of the border!!!
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4215891
This message was edited Jan 7, 2008 8:50 PM |
AuntAnne
College Station, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
10:13 PM Post #4373674
| Or the middle of the Gulf of Mexico. Though I haven't been fishing in a while. Or swimming for that matter. lol
Anne |
gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 07, 2008
10:15 PM Post #4373689
| I love Arkansas, Louisiana and Tenneessee, too. We are having the national violet convention in Oklahoma this year. Gardening in Louisiana I am envious of! |
Syrumani
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
10:29 PM Post #4373784
| Yes, but only if . . . it was within a reasonable driving distance from me. About 2-3 hours. Around Austin (Round Rock) would be good, but of course San Antonio would be perfect! Waco would be my limit going North. |
amethystsm
New Haven, CT
(Zone 6a)
January 07, 2008
11:11 PM Post #4373988
| Memphis, Little Rock, Wichita, Tulsa, and Springfield MO are all decent sized metropolitan areas within the radius but not in TX. And KC isn't much beyond, i don't think.
Perhaps narrowing it down to 2 or 3 areas, and taking a vote on where people would/could go would be a good idea.
Maybe one can be right by Dave - say Austin, or Houston - another could be a place closer to the northern edges of the 500 mile radius, and the 3rd could be a place with a big tourism draw - like New Orleans (heaven knows they need the business).
Of course there will be disappointment with any choice, there always is - but this discussion, with its vast number of possibilities, naturally feels chaotic. The committee, or whoever is in charge of deciding should narrow the field, so that reasonable, productive discussion can take place...
Just my 2¢ worth...
amy
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Garden4ever
Plymouth, WI
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
11:23 PM Post #4374039
| Well said, Amy. |
momcat
northeast, IL
(Zone 5a)
January 07, 2008
11:34 PM Post #4374084
| I've been to several roundups and loved it, but really wouldn't even consider this. It would have to be a driveable distance for me, and couldn't be more than a long (3 day) weekend. I always travel with my dogs, and couldn't leave them crated in a hotel room for the better part of any day, and any motel room rate, above the cost of a motel 6 or red roof inn would be too expensive. I enjoy the get togethers for the camaraderie, but I can get that from going to any of the roundups in surrounding states without the major expense of what you all are planning.
KC might be doable, because I have a friend I could stay with, but that would be about my limit.
I wish you all well in your planning, and will enjoy reading about it, but don't count on my attendance.
Deb |
bjf826
(Barb) Quincy, FL
(Zone 8b)
January 07, 2008
11:51 PM Post #4374147
| Yes, but only if... the cost to me is $1,000 or less. I figure that is as much as I can save in a year's time in a "special" fund. I can and WILL figure a way to put that aside, because it may well be my only chance to meet you guys and shake your hand or give you a hug!
Barb |
Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)
January 07, 2008
11:57 PM Post #4374167
| Memphis, Tulsa and San Antonio, and D/FW are all do-able for me and all are certainly up to the challenge of hosting an event of this nature with accomodations, airports and some visit-worthy botanical sights.
"Skooching" the map a tiny bit further north, KC, St. Louis, would also be feasible for me, and might be more attractive to the upper midwest folks; SL has MOBOT, which would be a fun outing for DG members.
I'd prefer to avoid Houston (traffic) and New Orleans (we were there last year, and it's coming back, but still not in good shape for tourists...) |
gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
12:03 AM Post #4374187
| I am just now noticing that Terry is from Murfreesboro! I love Tenneessee and lots of good antiquing and plant hunting between south Texas and Tenn.
That would be a great vacation and not just a weekend for me! |
carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
12:16 AM Post #4374233
| If it's in a jetBlue city (and they're still in business and DH still works there), then we WILL be there. Actually, it doesn't really need to be a jB city but the stuff in parenthesis still is a must. If not, we might be there anyway, somehow. xx, Carrie |
Lastelf
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
12:40 AM Post #4374295
| I'm on Spring Break from April 4-13, 2009. If it's then, and near Dallas, I'd love to come.
My hubby's sister is in Plano, outside of Dallas. That would give us a place to stay, and something for him to do while I play garden. That's a HUGE issue.
This is a wonderful idea!
Don't forget to plan gatherings for the various communities! It would be so much fun to meet the folks that frequent the areas that we personally visit.
BTW: Austrailia sounds like a hoot! I'll bring a tent for that one!
Blessings on your garden,
Elf
This message was edited Jan 8, 2008 8:01 PM |
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
12:49 AM Post #4374308
| It would be good to have it close to an airport that had a SkyBus hub. Howie and I have talked about this quite a bit the last couple days and to tell the truth, a huge convention kind of thing just isn't our bag. We like small get-togethers where we can break bread together and just hang out...No big schedule or plans. As much as we'd love to meet so many DGr's, I have to change ours to no for now. |
knolan
Sugar Land, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
12:51 AM Post #4374313
| I can only say...possibly. If the travel wasn't too far, the cost was minimal, school's out...too many factors without enough information. 500 miles from Daves'...in which direction? 500 miles from here is pretty far for me.
I also would have to agree with some of the others, a plant 'convention' would appeal to me if the topics and vendors were relating to my particular zone/growing area. Not that I'm not all for meeting every DG'er out there...that would be fun but I'm not sure I could justify the cost of a trip like this. My family wants a 'family vacation' and I'd be hard pressed to tell them this is what we were doing.
I think it's a great idea and best of luck pulling it all together. |
silkiechick
Reynoldsville, PA
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
05:04 AM Post #4374591
| lol, nope no way i'm, takeing 5 kid's under 11 in a van that far away from home only w/ one driver to drive. we'd be driveing for days. the cost of hotels and gas and everything else on top of that would be to costly. i have a flock of over 100+ chickens not counting 4 dogs, 17 cockatiels and everyone else besides no way i could leave them for that long, noone to care for them either. i'd love to go, it would be loads of fun but there is no way that's gonna happen.
one thing i didn't see mentioned i think really should be considered is how everyone is gonna transport all them plants accross state lines to or from??? if i recall some things are illegal to do that with due to invasives, weeds ect and each state should have a list stateing what they do not allow and what states can import and export too. i know for tx -pa is not allowed to ship to due to something with those laws that bans alot of imports and i know there are other states the same. that would so not be kool if plants or whatever get confinscated at the state lines. cuttings and seeds can sometimes be classified under that state law also.
silkie |
Chocolatemoose
North Pole, AK
(Zone 1)
January 08, 2008
05:19 AM Post #4374595
| Contingent on dates in the spring, I would go! Would have to be early enough in the spring that I hadn't started planting. Early to Mid March would be ideal. Indoor planting starts after that...and no one in their right mind leaves Alaska for anything after April 1...The whole thing would be a ton of fun!. |
MizMack
Tallahassee, FL
January 08, 2008
05:55 AM Post #4374612
| Yes - I would make every effort to attend anywhere in the southeast. Workshops and plant swaps would be a great incentive to start saving my money now. Carpooling with others from this area would be a must. |
heathrjoy
Johnsonburg, PA
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
08:31 AM Post #4374773
| I had to say no for many reasons. Health, cost, distance, the DH dilemma and other reasons.
Cost - even though there's over a year to plan and save, there's so many more things I would/should need to use that money for.
DH dilemma - gardening is a chore for him and this would not be enjoyable for him at all. In my life it would be unfair to drag him along, or to leave him at home.
Other reasons - I'm with Gardenwife and Howie when it comes to large crowds and big cities...I just don't enjoy those things. I've gone to conventions/conferences before and they just wear me out. Too much like work or school for me, lol. I'd rather stay home on the farm with the dogs.
However, if for some reason I do happen to make it, I'll probably head straight to Broncbuster's after party! :) |
lourspolaire
Delray Beach, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 08, 2008
09:08 AM Post #4374869
| Some said this discussion is chaotic and I have to agree with them.
Let's go back to LouC's post of Jan. 7th at 3:34.
This is not abot location. That is pretty much settled. It's going to be set somewhere in a 500-mile radius from Dave's home somewhere in Texas. If this seems small to you, it's an area comprising 785,000 square miles. That circle is 1,000 miles in diameter, people. If you drove around its edge, you would travel 3,141 miles. That's is hardly the size of a back yard.
This is all about how many people will come so those dear people who have taken on the mantle of organizing this thing can give hotels, convention centers, airlines, vendors, speakers an idea of how many people will be there. Will there be 50 people, 500 people or 5,000 people or 50,000 people.
Although we are a resourceful bunch, I am certain the organizing committee will lose much sleep in the process or giving birth to this behemoth. I am pretty much certain that the committee won't be able to arrange orchid-watering services, dog-sitting services, mail pick-up services and (Lord above forbid) iron lung maintenance crews. These are things you arrange with your friends and neighbours. You have more than a year to do it IF you CAN come.
It's a sad fact of life that many people's lives are not set up to just "get up and leave" at the drop of a hat. It's another sad fact that not everyone can afford to come. Someone who is just excited as can be to come may no longer be with us next year. Some people won't be able to come because they are halfway across the planet. Others have health issues that preclude travel.
I said at the beginning and I will reiterate it here: The organizers are only trying to gauge how many people will come.
Respectfully submitted.
Sylvain. |
knolan
Sugar Land, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
09:29 AM Post #4374932
| I think everyone has provided their thoughts as respectfully and tactfully as possible. It's true that this is a mountain of a task and it's a bear for those trying to pre-plan. But, as with any large group, trying to get together for the first time, there will be many, many individuals who just won't be able to give a yes or no, without knowing certain factors. I seriously doubt that anyone who has spoken here honestly expects this group to arrange 'orchid sitting services', etc. They are just speaking of what holds them back from giving a positive yes. You are most fortunate, Sylvain, that you are able to give a definitive yes, at this time. Others are not in your shoes. A year is a very long way away and it's extremely hard for even the most organized individuals that I know to commit that far in advance.
I applaud the folks who are arranging this and I understand the folks who have to say 'No' or 'Maybe'. |
rubyw
Crozet, VA
January 08, 2008
09:35 AM Post #4374946
| There has been some good feedback given here. Things mentioned that I hadnt even thought of being considered. I definitely want to go, but I couldn't truthfuly answer yes to the first option, because "any amount of money" will help me determine whether to attend or not.
I kind of like the idea of Memphis. I have never been there and was just thinking of it recently. I have only visited Texas once and loved the San Antonio area, so that is a good option for me too.
Here's to seeing some of you in 2009.
Ruby |
marsue
Cabot, AR
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
09:52 AM Post #4374990
| I'm suggesting to the committee, whoever you may be,
that you get together, pick 2 or 3 cities to choose from and let us go from there. Once we have a place or possibly two, maybe even three (but no more) to consider THEN and only then can we say Yes or No. This endless discussion on all the IFS, etc, is fruitless. No one place is going to satisfy everybody.
Remember that famous quote: "You can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time." |
jsxtiger
(jax) Dundalk, MD
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
10:11 AM Post #4375071
| Congrats and Best Wishes to the Committee. You have tackled a mountainous undertaking. I know! Unfortunately, even though I would love to attend, health issues stop me from traveling. And since I can't work...I cannot afford to do it.
But, you have my support in your efforts. If there was something I could do to help, from here, I would love to. |
broncbuster
Waxahachie, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
10:12 AM Post #4375073
| I suggest that next week's poll is to vote on the city. Whichever city gets more votes is more likely to draw the bigger crowd. Then after the city is chosen, we can ask who'll be attending. |
Candyce
The Monadnock Region, NH
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
10:17 AM Post #4375095
| I'll be there, if finances permit. Time might be a problem, but just a slight one. If I start saving now ... and save some $$$ each paycheck ... I just might be able to afford attending. And, I know I'd LOVE it!!! |
jenhillphoto
Danbury, CT
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
10:19 AM Post #4375099
| "I suggest that next week's poll is to vote on the city. Whichever city gets more votes is more likely to draw the bigger crowd. Then after the city is chosen, we can ask who'll be attending." - broncbuster
This make sense to me! First things first, then we go from there. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
10:23 AM Post #4375109
| We cannot give a particular place until we have a reasonable idea of attendance. The hotels are not interested in anything but a number. Without a number we don't discuss price. That pretty much precludes location because all locations have different prices and packages.
| Quoted: |
Quoted:
Ok guys and dolls, We have already been contacting convention bureaus, hotels, gardens, lots of things. They don't even want to discuss it with us without an estimate of attendance. Since this is the first time, we have no history to fall back on. The more that attend, the lower the price. Don't expect the "gate" price to be much of anything. Will be drawing from our membership for forums, etc. Full service hotels provide breakfast with the room rate. They also provide free shuttles from airports. The larger number of rooms that are blocked for us, the cheaper the bed rate. Would possibly have pre-fix dinners on Friday and Saturday to lock in the cost. Some garden tours accomodate large numbers, some don't. You can see the delima. We have not been sitting still waiting for magic to put this together. Vendors will not participate if the numbers are small. You can understand it is expensive for them and they use their monies judiciously. This is a lot more complicated than an RU. Hopefully it will be equally laid back and fun. The vote starts Monday, Jan. 7th. Remember, no matter what a vote is for, your one vote can make the difference.
Happy New Year! See you in 2009. (that is face to face)
Christi |
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LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
10:25 AM Post #4375116
| jen, we cross-posted.
To another post: This is not an RU. We will not be bringing plants and cuttings. |
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
10:26 AM Post #4375118
| Still, it makes sense to nail down a major city and then have the committee pick a hotel and meeting area within that city. A 500 mile radius is a large area for people to commit to. |
Syrumani
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
11:00 AM Post #4375214
| The answers in the voting booth were:
Would you attend?
Yes- no matter the cost
Yes, but only if __________ (please tell us what it is)
I'm sorry, there's no way I could attend
I don't like this idea at all (please tell us why)
Most of the replies have been in response to one of these answers - it's not just a matter of yes or no, but WHY is it either yes or no. Yes, bottom line numbers are important, but it's equally important are the reasons behind those numbers. Once the committee selects the top choices for the Expo location (based on this poll, I'd think), I'm sure we can get down to more specific Yes/No attendance numbers. |
jenhillphoto
Danbury, CT
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
11:00 AM Post #4375215
| You know, I've been to a few events such as this and the organizers never take into account where you will stay. As in, they don't book a block of hotel rooms at a reduced rate. That, I think, would be near impossible to know this far in advance how many rooms you would need. When I went to the Philadelphia flower show, I just bought my ticket online and showed up. I made my own hotel reservations. I was actually, on my own, able to book the hotel directly across the street, at a reduced rate, on short notice. Maybe organizers are making this too difficult on themselves. Maybe you just need to focus on the venue, where the "meeting" of DGer's is held and what we will do at the event.
I also went to a tomatofest. Again, bought my ticket online, and hotel reservations were my own problem to figure out and that was fine by me. I don't expect the organizers to do that for me. Now the tomatofest was a much smaller affair than the flower show and maybe closer to the level that a first DG event would be. In that situation, they had a predetermined location, date, and amount of tickets to sell. The price was high, but what you got out of it was pretty attractive and enticing... free food from top chefs, free wine tasting, freebies of all sorts.
When I got married in NYC, I arranged for a block of hotel rooms at a reduced rate for out of town wedding guests. You know how many rooms I reserved? 10. All the hotels I called, were willing to reduce the rate for 10 rooms, some even less. These were very nice hotels. So if you really want to reserve a block, it doesn't take hundreds. But to be honest, if I were organizing this, I wouldn't worry about accommodations. Anyone coming from out of town, will know that they have to get a hotel/motel room. Each will find accommodations to suit their budget.
Another thing, not every attendee will want to do every activity. Some will want to do the garden tours some not. You can find activities and then people will have to sign up for it if they want to do it. So you can arrange a garden tour for 20 people. The first 20 or so to sign up, get to go.
You could do the same with dinners, you have a set amount of spots. Again, not everyone will want to join. |
charlenesplants
Buffalo, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
12:13 PM Post #4375451
| Count me in. I had so much fun at the FWRU that I wouldn't miss this for the world. The only "if " would be if the cost is not exhorbitant.
I love the idea and will look forward to it.
Charlene |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
12:43 PM Post #4375546
| Guys and Gals -
We cannot even talk to a city until we have a number or people wanting to go. Reality is we will pick the cheapest city we can talk to that will have the best things for us to do and the best places for us to stay. We can at some cities get free places to set up if we block our rooms, that means cheaper for you and less cost to put on this thing.
We need an idea of the numbers we are looking at - then we can start to take bids and talk to cities. We are talking about a big thing here and we are not going to just have it in a park - it is going to be in a building and we have to talk price, before we can talk price to anyone we need numbers to talk with.
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gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
12:47 PM Post #4375561
| But, Mitch, people don't know if they can go depending on where it is and when it is. I don't know the answer to this problem. Can't you all pick a date and a city and then ask? |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
12:53 PM Post #4375584
| Not really - the price and what they will give us all matters on how many are coming - more people better for them, the more they give us added on; less people the more they make us pay for things and the fewer deals we get. Dates will matter when we can get into the city with the best deal - we are planning this way out there so we can make it affordable, the numbers here are just to help us sell what ever city on the fact that we are going to be there with x number of people. |
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
12:57 PM Post #4375602
| Can't these venues quote you some different rates based on several ranges of guest totals? |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
01:01 PM Post #4375618
| Sad to say most dont even want to talk until they have some numbers. That is why this vote is critical! No matter the city it will be too far for some and close to others. The cost we pinky swear will be kept the lowest possible. We just need a guess at how many people would really be interested in going. |
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
01:02 PM Post #4375622
| It looks like one of those "which came first, the chicken or the egg" things. Sorry it's so hard to get answers for you guys! |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
01:07 PM Post #4375637
| Convention Bureaus deal with all of the services we may require. Then they offer it to several hotels and they actually bid for our business, giving us the upper hand. The CB can bring it back to us and we can bargain again. That way it is possible to have a room for possibly $80 instead of $120, including breakfast and free meeting rooms plus all other kinds of goodies from the chamber of commerce. This first time is really hard. By the time the 50th rolls around, it will be a well-oiled machine. |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
01:10 PM Post #4375650
| Right - and we need numbers to know what we are really dealing with before we get this to far. |
cathy4
St. Louis County, MO
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
01:11 PM Post #4375651
| Numbers attending are the #1 issue in planning a gathering. If 100 say they will come and plans are are made with hotels and food caterers, they have to be paid even if no one shows. The planners can't just assume 1% of the registered members will show up. Planning a convention is HARD work. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
01:29 PM Post #4375685
| Thank you Cathy. Our desire is to have a place for everyone to enjoy including the entire family, children too, that is reasonable in price, that is convenient to get to, that is interesting, that is something everyone will look forward to for years to come. We are so aware that if we can't do this first right, there might not be a second. Cathy is correct, like it or not, numbers are first and foremost.
And we don't like it anymore than you do.
|
Syrumani
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
01:38 PM Post #4375730
| It is the chicken/egg scenario! You want us to commit, yet it can't be decided where until we commit, and for many the location will determine the commitment.
Ok, well, here's my number: Dallas/Ft Worth - No. Waco - maybe. Austin - Yes. San Antonio - daily. This is assuming it will be held on a Fri - Sun window.
This message was edited Jan 8, 2008 11:41 AM |
marsue
Cabot, AR
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
01:50 PM Post #4375788
| If you cut that 500 mile radius into 4 equal parts, you could pick a city in one of the four sections and then ask the members to vote on one of those four cities. After you have the winner (determined by the most number of people who say they will attend if it is in that city) then you can go to the convention bureau of that city and get the rates from them. If their rates are not acceptable, go to the second-place winner, etc., etc.
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gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
01:59 PM Post #4375812
| Thank you, marsue...now we might be getting able to vote. |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
02:00 PM Post #4375815
| We really have to do things in order, and sad to say that means we need a number first and city will come later. |
cactus_lover
FSD, Pakistan
(Zone 10b)
January 08, 2008
02:05 PM Post #4375835
| It is my Dream that i attend this party,but i cannot come to USA from Pakistan.
I wish that i meet to Dave and Davesgarden members.
How ammazzing event is comming.
Enjoy those who attend it,
Yasir
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marsue
Cabot, AR
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
02:07 PM Post #4375843
| Okay, here's my vote: I can come no matter where it is held within that 500 mile radius. DH and I are both retired so time is not an issue for us and we could most likely drive 500 miles in one day if necessary.
However, the following would be issues for us:
1. We would both still have to be alive and well.
2. Our vehicle would have to also be alive and well.
3. Gasoline prices would have to be reasonable (under $3.00/gallon)
4. I won't mention cost of lodging, etc., because I know the committee will be doing all it can to keep those costs down.
Those are our requirements. That's all I have to say on the matter. LOL
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drapelady
Denham Springs, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
02:11 PM Post #4375859
| I just went on line and checked airfares from your different cities into... say Dallas. It is cheaper to fly from Newark,OH to Dallas than from New Orleans to Dallas. Most of the cities were the same. I'm finding as I put in alot of ya'lls cities, it will cost me more to fly into Dallas than people from further away. Once to the Expo, shuttles will be there, rooms will have been negotiated, tours, etc. According to the airlines, we are all on even ground.
This message was edited Jan 8, 2008 12:39 PM |
Syrumani
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
02:15 PM Post #4375880
| marsue had a point earlier . . . couldn't there be a Voting Booth (for example):
How many would attend if the Expo were held in the following cities:
Dallas/Ft Worth
Austin
San Antonio
Sherman, OK
Shreveport, LA
Memphis, TN
Wouldn't that give just as good a "count" as asking people - will you attend, yes or no?
Just a suggestion, and by no means am I wanting to tell anyone how to do something. It just seems (to me) that there may be a different way to ask the question . . . |
amethystsm
New Haven, CT
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
02:34 PM Post #4375947
| i don't think it is possible to get an accurate number of attendees with so little information. it's hard to get an accurate head count for a party even 2 weeks out. people change their minds.
there are professional convention planners out there, who make a living setting up events like this - it is not easy.
thanks Marsue for supporting the voting idea. |
McGlory
Southeast, NE
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
03:19 PM Post #4376112
| You are so right. Thankfully, they don't need an accurate number, only a general idea.
My vote is Maybe - depending on time of year. I don't like going anywhere during the busiest part of gardening season. |
GrammysGardenAZ
Cochise, AZ
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
03:46 PM Post #4376182
| This survey seems to me like a basic question. Same as, "Hey, think we should have a baby shower for Trixie?" Well if everybody says no, there is no point in talking about where or when. Let's answer the first question and then the volunteers who are thinking to make this happen can start working on details. My answer is: I would love to take a few days and meet some of these faceless people who are such a part of my life! I would love to spend a couple days talking to people who care about the same things I care about! I would love to be able to ask lots of questions of some of the members who contribute so much here! Yes if you can make this happen within reason, I will be there. |
Bec_No_Va
DC metro, VA
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
03:56 PM Post #4376216
| Count me in - I am not too concerned about price/place/when as of this moment - this is a simple question - would you? Yes/No/Why not - 2009 is a long ways from now :-) This will give the organizers a general idea
If the next poll shows the place and cost - then I can make an educated decision IF I will be able to attend - this is not a poll asking for confirmation - this is purely a question to gauge interest and possibility :-)
|
silverfluter
Fredericksburg, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
04:05 PM Post #4376248
| If there's anyway for me to get to this party, I'll bethere will bells on, but like everybody else it depends on costs and time of year. I salute you ya'll for taking on this task. But I think you're expecting too much of yourselves to think you can "do it right the first time". I hope nobody is expecting you to "do it right the first time". Unless you have taken on a task like this before, I don't even think you should have that idea in your head. Anybody that goes to this party/convention needs to keep in mind that the people working on this are volunteers (as far as I can tell). There is a learning curve here.
I hope it turns out that it's held in a place I can get to, but if it's not I will look forward to all the pictures.:)
One thing I will say about location though. I don't think New Orleans is a good choice. I haven't been there, but I have talked to people who have and it doesn't sound like it's a place ready for tourists. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein, Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 08, 2008
04:08 PM Post #4376258
| Exactly Lori! A general idea. None of this is carved in stone. People have been discussing this in several threads, and the one main question is "how many people would come". Guesses run the gambit, but no one but the general membership of DG can really answer that question. There is nothing wrong with answering "yes...if____" , it will give the committee the estimated figures needed to continue the reasearch. Over 300,000 members, thousands of subscribers, and only 188 votes...not very representational. Information is power...if the committee has the information, they have the power to make this a great event! Tell everyone you know, in every thread you visit, to come to the home page and VOTE!
It would be a shame to rent a hotel room for a cocktail get together the first evening and then find out that they should have rented the ball-room, or the lobby , or the football stadium! Get your friends to VOTE! |
silverfluter
Fredericksburg, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
04:18 PM Post #4376297
| Good point Shari. Alot of people posted already saying that they definitely would not or could not come no matter where it's held. That info has to be collected first. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein, Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 08, 2008
04:23 PM Post #4376327
| That's right! Even "no's" and "can'ts" are votes that are important to know. This committee should not be expending its collective brain matter trying to put something together if not enough people would attend to make it worthwhile. That is why it is so important that people answer as realistically as possible. Spread the word! |
gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
04:44 PM Post #4376414
| I know that I have already voted and should not be on here...but what good is any count when there isn't enough information for people to even respond yes or no. The no is an important vote but not many can say yes with no place or time in mind.
All I am saying is that when the national conventions for AVs are announced, no one except the group who planned it got to choose the site and what would be offered. People then start turning in their yes or no. Same way with the national begonia society. It is simply an announcement and then people say yes or no. (I know they both have a history)
I am willing to pay my part to hire people who can put together a national convention and probably most others would be willing also.
PS>>>>>>I won't post anymore I promise! (lol) I will be wherever it is. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
04:53 PM Post #4376455
| The answer to your question.
| Quoted: | | (I know they both have a history) |
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MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
04:53 PM Post #4376458
| And we are trying to keep the cost down - doing all we can in house. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein, Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 08, 2008
05:00 PM Post #4376492
| Gessiegail, I don't think there is anything wrong with posting here...or am I missing something? (wouldn't be the first time ). Questions and answers are what this whole site is about. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:02 PM Post #4376500
| Exactly. |
silverfluter
Fredericksburg, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:08 PM Post #4376535
| Mitch and LouC I have no idea what help I might be able to offer, but there's a good chance that it will be close enough for me to help. I have no experience with this sort of thing, but I'm a fairly decent goffer.:), meaning I can run errands and stuff. |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
05:09 PM Post #4376543
| Goffers will be needed - thank you for the offer. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:10 PM Post #4376544
| Thanks, Silver for all of your kind words. You can assured that you will be at the top of the list as soon as we have reason to go forward. AND I KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:10 PM Post #4376548
| cross-posted...again. |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
05:11 PM Post #4376551
| :-) no problem! |
broncbuster
Waxahachie, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:14 PM Post #4376571
| I just don't understand why we can't pick a city first, take an attendance poll next, then contact convention centers, hotels, and vendors in that city with our numbers ready and much more accurate. |
doccat5
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
05:17 PM Post #4376588
| Oops, sorry voted twice...blush... |
DebinSC
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:17 PM Post #4376590
| I would attend if, (a) I can afford it, and (b) I can get enough time off work. |
shihtzumom
Pearisburg, VA
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
05:19 PM Post #4376598
| Would love to meet my buddies and think it's a great idea - but also agree the location must have lots of things to do with gardening. And something my hubby can do while I go - he hates to garden since he was forced to do it as a child...no milking cows either.
Kathy |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:19 PM Post #4376600
| Not all costs in all cities are created equal. It takes a good bit of work for the people we must contact to gather the prices. If they think we are just fishing, and we are, the other end goes very flat...call us back when you know how many you will have attending, thank you and good day. With a membership of 341,000+ and subscribers of 6630+ makes it impossible to guess.
How we wish we could just give a list of 1 through 10 and answer all of the questions. Why would we not, if we could? |
daltri_z5
Lincoln, NE
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
05:19 PM Post #4376602
| Yes I would do my best to attend. I would try to carpool and hotel share with other DGers from my area to make this an affordable mini-vacation. |
heavenscape
JayeVille, NC
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
05:20 PM Post #4376609
| Would attend but caregiver here. Will be praying for it to come to fruition! It's a terrific idea.
~Jaye |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:21 PM Post #4376615
| Thank you so much, daltri. That is kind of answer we so need. |
roybird
Santa Fe, NM
January 08, 2008
05:22 PM Post #4376621
| As long as this event is still in the planning stages, I don't see why D.G. folks who would like to go would be discouraged from giving in-put on which cities within the suggested 500 mile radius would be most do-able. Maybe that will come later. Good Luck! |
gdionelli
Huntington, WV
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
05:27 PM Post #4376641
| Like most everyone else, depends where, when and how much $. |
Resin
Northumberland, United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
05:31 PM Post #4376652
| 7,500km . . . too far for me!
Resin
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Riverland
Northeast, LA
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:32 PM Post #4376657
| I would certainly try very hard to attend. Cindy |
MistyMeadows
Payneville, KY
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
05:39 PM Post #4376684
| only if it were affordable and it wasn't during planting season...which means probably Feb/March time frame. After that we are busy, as most farmers are, getting ready for the season...again!
Sounds like a great idea, but a lot to do to get that point. Wish I could be involved in the planning, but I've got so much on my plate now...there is no way.
Blessings to this venture,
Kathy |
broncbuster
Waxahachie, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:40 PM Post #4376685
|
| Quoted: | | I just don't understand why we can't pick a city first, take an attendance poll next, then contact convention centers, hotels, and vendors in that city with our numbers ready and much more accurate. |
I didn't say to contact the venues before we knew our numbers. I think we should contact them after we vote on the city and take the attendance poll. Then we will have way more accurate estimates of attendance. Can someone please explain why this is not an option? Dang! (~; |
snapple45
Holland, OH
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
05:40 PM Post #4376687
| reasonably priced accomodations and the dates. I work. |
andidandi
Arlington, VA
January 08, 2008
05:41 PM Post #4376691
| The poll lacks a "maybe" answer, or an indication of what "within 500 miles of Dave" means.
It would need to be:
-Affordable, and have informative events. Not just vendors focused on selling me things.
-Within a reasonable traveling distance.
-In a location with other attractions.
-Distinguishable from local gardening shows and the regional get-togethers members here already organize for themselves, which are generally free.
-Fit well within the seasonal calendar for most regions if it involves swaps and trades.
-Provide some advance way to find out who plans to attend. Otherwise it's just a bunch of strangers and I might as well go to any other event.
-Would it be open to the public or just members?
|
FlowrLady
Olive Branch, MS
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
05:43 PM Post #4376693
| I will do my very best to be there, so I guess that's a YES!!!
Several have mentioned Memphis... We have a botanic garden, and Graceland, and Beale Street... as well as a zoo.
Tunica is less than one hour from downtown Memphis.
I think Trish summed it up, so I'm gonna 'kinda' quote her:
"Memphis, San Antonio, and D/FW are all do-able for me and all are certainly up to the challenge of hosting an event of this nature with accomodations, airports and some visit-worthy botanical sights.
"Skooching" the map a tiny bit further north, St. Louis would also be good for me, and might be more attractive to the upper midwest folks; SL has MOBOT, which would be a fun outing for DG members.
I'd prefer to avoid Houston (traffic) and New Orleans. I doubt it's ready for us! they're stilll digging out.
My answer, Wonderful Planning Group, is YES!
This message was edited Jan 9, 2008 3:19 PM |
laurawege
Wayland, MA
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
05:43 PM Post #4376694
| I think it is a great idea but doubt I could go : ( laura |
Sofonisba
Putnam County, NY
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
05:44 PM Post #4376697
| So long as I can swing the cost, I'll be there. I can start saving up now. It would be easier if it happens when the kids aren't in school. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:45 PM Post #4376702
| members. this is a family reunion. not in the DG family can't come. |
debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:46 PM Post #4376706
| Plenty of time to save up and plan on all counts! YES YES & YES!
We're going!!!
|
Tropicman
Wichita, KS
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
05:49 PM Post #4376713
| If it was to be held in the middle of the United States,would more people attend?
If people from each state could rent a small bus of some type or van,and bring several people,would cut cost by a huge margin,in just gas expense alone!
For me it would have to be a time,that my down time is the least as for gardening,wintertime to early spring is that time for me.
Like most people here,not only to I want to meet and get to know everyone,but I also want to visit the Botanicals gardens,or Zoo,or something I haven't seen or been to before,I want to get all I can for the amount of time I'll be there.
If you can set a time and a location,you'll get the numbers your looking for.
Now this time and location can be changed,if needed to be to get the most amonut of people who can attend.
I say try one time and location ,take a vote,after that vote try another time and location,take another vote,and so on,after all were just in the planning stages,and if that works and a time and location is met then try to find out about the cost and expenese of transportation and logging.
After all we do want to make the most out of a Daves Gardening Convention! |
Trish
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
05:49 PM Post #4376714
| I understand the frustration here.
This is a "chicken and egg" issue for sure!
The question is: WOULD you want to come? The (few) details that have been provided are simply to help you make that decision. For example- if there is a huge sewing expo in New York with lots of people there I'd like to meet, and the question is posed to me would I be able to attend. I now at least have enough information available to me to decide if it something I'd consider. I know I'd have to travel to NY, pay my plane, hotel, etc, plus take time away from my family. Do those cons outweigh the pros? I know my family situation well enough to know, given the parameters, whether I'd have a chance to make it or not.
Or as another person put it: "Do you think we should have a baby shower for so-and-so" if enough people think it is a good idea, we can do it.
Otherwise (and the whole point to this vote!!!) we are not going to spend any time, money, or energy putting together a Expo that hardly anyone would attend.
The first step is always to gauge interest. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein, Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 08, 2008
05:50 PM Post #4376716
| Broncbuster, I think they tried to answer you. The costs in various cities for something like this, are very different depending on the number of people attending. What costs X$ in St. Louis, may cost XX$ in Dallas or elsewhere. The number of people is what drives that cost. SO, the planning committee is trying to get a general idea of numbers in order to find the place that is the most cost effective, with the most to do given that range of numbers. Is that an answer for you? |
girlgroupgirl
Atlanta, GA
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
05:51 PM Post #4376719
| Honestly, I'm not into any kind of dinner thing - not into any kind of typical convention. And my DH would croak having to attend anything like that let alone to do with gardening.
Seminars I love,
garden "show" type thing I like very much,
tours: a big thumbs up!
Other considerations - a city with lots of things to do so that accompanying loved ones have a choice of things they might do while the gardeners are busy
|
sempervirens
Northern, NJ
(Zone 6b)
January 08, 2008
05:51 PM Post #4376721
| Location is critical for me. What cities are being considered? Can it be more centrally located in the country? |
sweezel
McKinney, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
05:52 PM Post #4376723
| Yes, if it's within about 300 miles - which should not be a problem unless New Orleans or West Texas is the location. |
McGlory
Southeast, NE
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
05:53 PM Post #4376726
| broncbuster, because we may all decide to come if it's held in Tulsa, for example, then when they contact the Convention Burueau in Tulsa they could find nothing is available until 2015, or that anything the size we need will cost $20,000 to rent, or whatever. Then the whole thing would be back at Square One. Obviously, I just used Tulsa as a hypothetical example.
Does that help? |
Islandshari
Kwajalein, Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 08, 2008
05:55 PM Post #4376729
| Lori - we are all trying to answer him, and I don't think he's looking. |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
05:58 PM Post #4376743
| We will be looking for a major airport in the very close area, also getting a bus and sharing the trip with other DGers in your area is really a great way do this. Lori is right we need to know a guess of how many before we can even start to look. |
Dea
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
05:59 PM Post #4376748
| DH and I will try our best to be there
|
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
06:00 PM Post #4376749
| He's at work. Probably got called away. |
jasmerr
Merrimac, WI
(Zone 4b)
January 08, 2008
06:02 PM Post #4376758
| I would attend if the cost is within my budget. |
rachierabbit
Olympia, WA
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
06:04 PM Post #4376769
| I would be very interested if it had substance i.e. lectures/plant talks, seed exchange, meet and greet, educational sessions, vendors etc. I would be happy to help with the planning of the event as well. Rachel |
morrowsmowers
Glassboro, NJ
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
06:07 PM Post #4376776
| Would be interested in attending only if it was within 50 miles or less of us here in Glassboro, NJ |
pdoyle23323
Chesapeake, VA
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
06:16 PM Post #4376812
| Only if it's affordable and not too far |
onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
06:17 PM Post #4376818
| only if the price is right... texas is kind of out of my way
:) |
broncbuster
Waxahachie, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
06:20 PM Post #4376830
| Shari and Lori, I think the 2 of you have come very close to answering my question. The thing is I can totally understand how someone in Kansas could easily make it if the expo were held in Wichita, but they would have to decline if it were in Houston. How can you expect to get an accurate estimate of attendance when there's no set city? All you'll have is a bunch of maybes! Dang! (~; |
earthling
Rowlett, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
06:21 PM Post #4376832
| Why not start a little smaller with a booth or 2 at some of the Garden shows that usually happen in the late winter/early spring..that way one could see what sort of interest there would be from the people that attend these garden shows. Also, if not cost prohibitive, Dave's could make a showing at several of the local ones across the country, recruiting the locals to be 'in charge' at the shows.
All this is preparation for the grand finale of having one of our own shows...
JMHO...
Kris
edited to say ..when I said Dave's could make a showing...I meant a Dave's booth, not Dave personally..
This message was edited Jan 9, 2008 7:01 AM |
broncbuster
Waxahachie, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
06:23 PM Post #4376844
| Good thought, Kris! |
Trish
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
06:24 PM Post #4376847
| Bronc!!!! I assume that you read my post. I also assume that DGers have a brain and can think for themselves.
If I live in Wichita, and can't travel further than Kansas City, and am asked to go within 500 miles of Bryan...I can look at a map and know that is out of my reach and can say no.
BTW- estimates are never accurate. They are only estimates ;) |
darius
So.Appalachian Mtns, VA
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
06:25 PM Post #4376852
| Yes, but only if there's enough $$ for me to make the trip. |
melody
Benton, KY
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
06:27 PM Post #4376858
| Keith and I would love to attend, and will, if at all possible. Obviously, Memphis or St.Louis would be best for us location wise, but we're capable of traveling pretty much anywhere.
We are self-employed, and work when we have business, it will all depend on how hectic our schedules are, but we are interested in attending for sure. |
Suze_
Bastrop County, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
06:28 PM Post #4376863
| I voted "yes, but only if..." So, take that as a firm maybe. :-) I'd need more information as to the when and where, but understand this is in the planning stages so that's still TBD. If this is held on a weekend, that would be helpful to many of us, I think.
Something in the central or upper part of the state (if even held in Texas at all) seems like it might make it more practical for folks in other states to attend. The panhandle or the DFW area seem like possibilities. Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kansas, and Missouri are other states that occur to me. I personally wouldn't have a problem with Tennessee either, but that seems perhaps a little far east for some that might have otherwise considered it. |
sugarweed
Jacksonville, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
06:28 PM Post #4376866
| Here's Marylyn's 500 mi radius map.
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
06:29 PM Post #4376868
| Hi,
I'm gonna weigh in for a Regional/State Convention idea. I believe it would be a more practical approach to do smaller, regional gatherings than just one national convention. Folks who are already doing local gatherings might not need to travel to a national. Also, regional gatherings would allow for targeting information specific to the region. And, more non-DGers might decide to attend a regional convention they can easily get to, while increasing exposure and advertising for Dave's. |
broncbuster
Waxahachie, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
06:30 PM Post #4376870
| Trish, Wichita is within 500 miles (according to the map posted ^) of Bryan,TX, so the answer would not be no it would be maybe. I do have a brain and it does my thinking for me! Dang! :~) |
Kelli
Los Angeles (Canoga , CA
(Zone 10a)
January 08, 2008
06:32 PM Post #4376878
| Sounds like fun, but that is way too far away from me. |
Dean_W
Cedar Park, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
06:34 PM Post #4376892
| The cost is a problem for me! |
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)
January 08, 2008
06:34 PM Post #4376893
| How big do you think the first Mary Kay Convention was? BIG is not always better. Start maneagable.
Start it with what you have and every year it will get bigger and better. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Start with SIMPLE . . . That's what we did with the Iowa Round-Up and it is now on the caliber of what a national expo could be. In fact, we had the largest turnout of any of the other round-ups in 2007.
I am willing to travel most anywhere for this and probably can afford the time if I plan ahead. I have not voted as of yet because I don't see any use of the poll you put forth. Your poll only shows that members need more information.
We have the Iowa Round-Up and have great luck at getting good room rates. Why does anyone need to contact a Convention Bureau; it's simpler than that. Sure, maybe when we are much larger but not now.
You CAN put out polls based on venues . . . you are just so one-minded about the way this has to go . . . please try to be more flexible. So far your poll has only shown that people need more information to make a dedicated decision.
The first one isn't going to be the bigest and best; that will follow. It is just a starting point.
My humble opinion |
snapple45
Holland, OH
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
06:36 PM Post #4376898
| Any body here consider a series of regional Expo's. It's done in other industries. Otherwise you are limited to big National distributors and only the most local distributors. Gardening is very regional. |
wrightie
Metro DC, MD
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
06:41 PM Post #4376916
| I would go if the event was within a four or five hour drive from my location, otherwise I must send my Regrets. |
LenaBeanNZ
Palmerston North, New Zealand
(Zone 9b)
January 08, 2008
06:41 PM Post #4376917
| Its rather a long way to travel from New Zealand! Going on my big OE this year, so unfortunately no.
If a number of smaller events were scattered around the globe, this could mae it alot more feasible. For example, an event in Australia would be alot more realistic for me to aim to attend than one in Texas. An event in Europe could also work for me, as I travel there to visit family on a regular basis.
A few smaller events would also give people a choice of holiday destination and a choice of timing. Or the choice to attend a few of them if they like.
The idea of a big DG event does sound very fun though. I envy all those that are able to attend. Lena |
broncbuster
Waxahachie, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
06:41 PM Post #4376918
| TLC, wise words of advice! |
Dean_W
Cedar Park, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
06:41 PM Post #4376919
| Based on the map I may attend. |
gardenergail
Bay, AR
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
06:42 PM Post #4376922
| Would LOVE to come!
YES, IF... was my "official" answer, but I think I should've said YES. (period)
I would love to see it held in D/Ft.W, Memphis, or Little Rock!!! (no hotel cost for me, and if it's in Memphis, my distant DG friends could bunk at my house!) |
sugarweed
Jacksonville, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
06:42 PM Post #4376923
| We all have access to our regional-local-state type RUs. This I think is a great opportunity to show our clout as garden consumers.
Two years ago I and 4 other women went to a national convention in Chicago. We had no sponsors, but had $ raising yard and bake sales. We also fixed dinners for e-boards of different organizations.
I will have plant, yard and craft sales to help pay my way.
Texas has a dedicated group of DGers. I know they can out vote us.
But I'm hoping to see folks that aren't in my back yard and hope they feel the same.
I can always go to an RU in Texas. Hoping for something more here.
Sidney |
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX
January 08, 2008
06:43 PM Post #4376925
| I will go anywhere to be with friends and people I like...come May I am going to Iowa for their roundup.
Sylvia |
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX
January 08, 2008
06:47 PM Post #4376943
| I hear you Sidney! |
Weezingreens
Seward, AK
(Zone 3b)
 January 08, 2008
06:48 PM Post #4376945
| Just wanted to let everyone know I'd love to come, but it's cost prohibitive for me to do so. Just the same, I think it is a wonderful idea! |
froggies_girl
Ocean Springs, MS
January 08, 2008
06:49 PM Post #4376949
| I could attend if the conference cost fits my budget. May I suggest the lovely Mississippi Gulf Coast? LOL
julie |
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)
January 08, 2008
06:49 PM Post #4376952
| Are we talking about a long weekend sort of thing, like a 3 day event?
I don't imagine registration costs would run to hundreds of dollars, unlike some professional conferences I've attended... but I have to admit I didn't click the first "no matter the cost" button! But I can write a lot of articles between now and Spring of 2009, LOL, so I'll be there, "Lord willin' and the creek don't rise!" |
Trish
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
06:50 PM Post #4376954
| Thank you, TLC. Evidently it doesn't sound like it, but we are in agreement. All events have a beginning. The question being asked is: is this an event for someone's backyard, a park, or a convention center. How many people tentivally expected is the deciding factor. Much different than planning for a round-up.
For those who have asked about regional gatherings. Lookup the round-ups. I'm sure there is one near you. A regional Expo would be years out, if at all. We're not a mega-corporation :)
TJ- I just don't know what else to say. ;) |
BronxBoy
Lawrenceville, GA
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
06:52 PM Post #4376960
| We'd come is the price wasn't prohibitive and we could get good info at the conference that met our interests.
BB |
silverfluter
Fredericksburg, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
06:52 PM Post #4376963
| Twin Lakes made a good point. Starting with simple is a great idea, whether it's a national convention or regional. If we try to make this thing too big, the organizers will say "never again." Since I have no experience with this sort of thing, I can't say much about the rest of his post. If LouC and Mitch have already tried to talk to hotels/visitor bureaus etc. and didn't get anywhere, then I'll take them at their word.
As for having only a "regional expo", I think whatever you call it, if you offer speakers and venders, visiting time and whatever else you will attract people from all over who have an interest. You certainly wouldn't exclude any member who lived far away.
|
CaptMicha
Brookeville, MD
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
06:57 PM Post #4376979
| Sounds like it'd be a blast but I live in Maryland and I'm in college and will probably be in classes. |
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
07:01 PM Post #4376993
| Not enough information. It's also geared to the south so maybe if locations would be changed each year it might be of more interest to other people. |
Trish
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
07:03 PM Post #4376998
| I understand.
We're not looking at planning other years yet. We're just looking at if there is even enough interest to plan ONE year ;)
I'm not one for putting the cart before the horse. |
Degarotty
West Ipswich, QLD, Australia
(Zone 10b)
January 08, 2008
07:14 PM Post #4377029
| Hi Dave,
I am with Weed_Woman (Sue), if it could come to Australia, we would be there with bells on!
Good Luck, I hope you can get it together as it would be so nice to be able to meet the people we talk to on a daily basis.
GOOD LUCK, From DownUnder,
Debi
|
posyblossom
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
07:15 PM Post #4377036
| I'd come in a heartbeat without knowing, at this stage of the planning, any more details if I was 30 years younger and in better health.
I will enjoy hearing about it though if it happens☺To meet face to face other DGers, well, life probably doesn't get any better than that☺ |
jasmerr
Merrimac, WI
(Zone 4b)
January 08, 2008
07:15 PM Post #4377038
| Trish,
First...are you in Bryan, TX in Brazos County or Wise County?
Secondly...are you thinking of something similar to the International Master Gardeners Conference? I've never been able to attend, but have wanted to do so; especially the 2005 Conference held in Saskatoon, Canada.
Jody |
KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
07:20 PM Post #4377057
| I would go if I had $$, but alas, nope. I'm just getting ready to graduate college (finally!). |
bigcityal
Menasha, WI
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
07:24 PM Post #4377067
| I have no problem with this idea in concept. I have been to Roundup's and they are enjoyable. It might be more practical travelwise to try and group connected regional Roundups together for mini DG parties. |
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)
January 08, 2008
07:25 PM Post #4377071
| Thank you for responding, Trish,
I am not trying to be difficult here and you know I support you and Dave 100%.
If it is held in a back yard - it better be a big one; same goes for a park. I would go just to meet people I haven't met (and I have already been to 5 years of the Iowa R_U, the Kentucky R_U as well as last year's CA round-up (which Dave traveled over 500 miles to attend). For me it is about people. No other agenda here. |
kqcrna
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
07:25 PM Post #4377072
| I was going to say maybe, depending on location. Texas or thereabouts would be a little far.
Most likely, count me out.
Sounds like a nice idea though. |
Shan71
Danvers, MA
January 08, 2008
07:25 PM Post #4377073
| I didn't realize Dave was in TX when I answered. I've never been to TX. If it is planned around the time of an aviation related event I might get BF to attend. |
IO1
Waaaay down south, GA
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
07:26 PM Post #4377077
| I'd love to come as long as it's not too organized! I need plenty of time to visit my friends ya know. LOL I'm not traveling that far to sit in a bunch of lectures and seminars. I've got a * lot * of folks I'll need to hug! Keep the cost down, and I'm marking my spot until I have more info to go on. :-)
~Susan |
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
07:27 PM Post #4377084
| Only if Dave is close to me...TX...hmmm I do have some realtives there. Who am I kiddin? I can't even get Christmas off. |
hart
Shenandoah Valley, VA
January 08, 2008
07:30 PM Post #4377094
| Within 500 miles of Daves would be many, many hundreds of miles beyond where I could manage to attend.
I think the small, regional roundups make a lot more sense. But I hope those of you who can travel that far have a great time. |
katrinas
Redondo Beach, CA
(Zone 11)
January 08, 2008
07:37 PM Post #4377116
| I would love to attend as long as I have recoved from a back surgery that is yet to be scheduled. Meeting fellow DGs would be great as gardeners are great people. I have only been in TX via the Dallas and Houston airport and would love to see some the vast sites.
Hope to see y'al there!!!
Any city near an airport, with services, gardens, other natural and man made sites.
Being youngish, retired and single is a positive as I love to travel, visiting gardens and other cultural sites!!! |
lcosden
Pawling, NY
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
07:40 PM Post #4377124
| Love the idea but I'm worried about the cost and I'll have an newborn with me.. That might be an issue depending on who you talk too.. :) |
McCool
Millbury, MA
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
07:45 PM Post #4377152
| Would love to, but no. Even if I could manage to put together enough money (that'll happen when the pigs start flying) I'd still have to close down my business for the duration. |
Trish
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
07:51 PM Post #4377177
| jasmerr, Bryan is in Brazos county.
Yes, the international MG conference would be what I had in mind, for sure! Talks, demos...the whole nine yards.
For those who are talking about the Mini-conferences:
Please keep in mind that we have many regional roundups throughout the country. Many are very large in size, and do include talks and demos and the like. Those are lots of fun, and I encourage you to go to them.
While Dave has been to a couple of "out of region" RUs, it is not a norm for him. As a family, we do not like Dave traveling all of the time, and we cannot all go as a family. It is a choice that we have made after having put in our "time" traveling for years. I hope you can understand and respect the fact that he just can't travel all of the time. |
vadap
Aurora, CO
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
07:53 PM Post #4377187
| Yes, depending on my personal affordability. Aggieland would be wonderful, but sure D/FW (or like city with major airline hubs and other ammenities) would be more practible. Plus, tons of things to do for non-interested spouses. |
kooger
Oostburg, WI
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
07:53 PM Post #4377189
| Shucks, I'd do my best to make it. Of course it depends on job and money. But if I could pick up a few DGers on the way, the gas cost could be split and that would help. It's really only a bit over a day's drive. Think positive! :) |
Marylyn_TX
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
07:55 PM Post #4377196
| I volunteer to help with lcosden's baby!! :-) |
Hillbilly_Gran
Jasper, AR
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
08:02 PM Post #4377236
| A lot of organizations have national conferences NARGS, CSSA and others, why not Dave? I would love to attend one if it happened, but for me the decision to actually attend would be the same as for any other organization that I belong to. Where is it? How far is it? How much will it cost? What are the activities? Garden tours? nursery tours? Speakers, workshops? Will there be vendors? It would be awesome if the regional groups could take turns "hosting" it. A different locale every year with different things to see and do. Some people would attend every year regardless, but in this way it could possibly be accessible to almost everyone at some time or another.
Tommie |
Katye
Sammamish, WA
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
08:07 PM Post #4377260
| This is not easily resolved unless a firm decision is made regarding location & time of year. I do understand the complexities of organizing an event like this - certainly it is not easy.
However, since you've already decided on a "500 mile radius from Dave", that precludes many that live at greater distances.
I would agree with others that it might be a bit easier to have regional gatherings, as
the cost would be mitigated.
Again - many of us cannot make any plans whatsoever without knowing when & where.
The best to you all! |
Pagancat
(Sheryl) Gainesboro, TN
(Zone 6b)
January 08, 2008
08:11 PM Post #4377276
| I would be interested in going if there were other things that I would like to see - going to MOBOT or the Memphis Botanical Gardens would be great. |
shellabella
West Central, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 08, 2008
08:12 PM Post #4377280
| I voted I might go IF_____
The weather was not too hot (like the fall) .
I would prefer to have it and stay someplace that is more outdoorsy. A large campground that has decent lodging and camping, recreational activities for spouses and family. Nice hiking trails and shuttle service to a large garden or other cool places to visit. A cruise ship or "Garden cruise" might be fun too.
It seems as tho you guys are thinking of a typical convention with a hotel, meeting rooms etc, but that doesn't appeal to me at this time and I would not go out of my way to attend a typical convention. |
summerkid
Kankakee, IL
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
08:16 PM Post #4377303
| I'm with those who would love to attend & would do their best to get there. But boy I hope the conference cost would be kept low just because in my opinion that would be the biggest mental obstacle to participation.
I can foresee hooking up with those DGers I've gotten close to & pooling expenses, and perhaps we'd have travelers making connections across the country as others opened up their homes along the way to save us hotel costs. |
cannaqueen
Mantua, OH
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
08:16 PM Post #4377307
| Sounds like a great idea, but then travel distance is an issue.
Perhaps this convention could be done by planting regions,:
northeast, southeast, southwest, central plains, etc. You would draw people who would have at least the weather
and topography in common... |
growin
Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
08:21 PM Post #4377329
| I'd love to go. I'd have to leave 2 months ahead as my truck drives slow with travel trailer in tow. |
shelleydar
Churubusco, IN
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
08:24 PM Post #4377345
| Yes, if it was within 100 miles and at a time when I could get off work. |
MySharona
Amelia Island, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 08, 2008
08:25 PM Post #4377346
| It all depends on what is going with how well several famliy and close family members are doing in the "health" department. We have some serious situations going on right now.
Other than that - we would be there at the drop of a hat!
Sharon
This message was edited Jan 8, 2008 8:02 PM |
mgh
Willamette Valley, OR
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
08:27 PM Post #4377351
| If we were going to spend money on a vacation like this it would have to be some place my whole family would enjoy. Sorry, I think I'd rather go back to Belgium! ;o) |
garden_mermaid
San Francisco Bay Ar, CA
(Zone 9b)
January 08, 2008
08:29 PM Post #4377358
| We would possibly attend a DG conference if it were in our region (West of the Rockies), and would almost definitely attend if it were somewhere in the SF Bay Area.
Travel costs would be too high otherwise. |
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
08:30 PM Post #4377363
| I'd love to come, especially if it were during a school vacation so the family could join me. It would be nice if it was in a vacation type spot, so they could enjoy themselves. Question: is the 500 miles from the Texas Dave or the Boston Dave? |
chris_lcf530
Peachtree City, GA
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
08:35 PM Post #4377383
| Yes, if it was no more than 250 miles from my house. I could probably swing the rest of the costs but with plane fare it wouldnt be an option.
If it is within 500 miles of Dave's, (understandable) then it would be too far from me. To bad Dave doesnt live in Georgia. :)
I might however, be able to offer a place to stay for people traveling through GA.
This message was edited Jan 8, 2008 7:40 PM |
Trish
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
08:42 PM Post #4377415
| Sorry, I don't know who "Boston Dave" is.
This would be 500 miles from "The Dave" who lives in TX. |
docgipe
NORTH CENTRAL PENNSY, PA
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
08:46 PM Post #4377434
| Yes but only if it is held within five hundred miles or slightly more of North Central Pennsylvania. That is the normal five day range for my necessary oxygen tanks.
To fly requires very expensive additional and other equipment to make it possible. |
delecie
Homestead, FL
(Zone 10b)
January 08, 2008
08:55 PM Post #4377474
| I would attend if I could afford the costs involved. |
4paws
On the road, United States
January 08, 2008
08:55 PM Post #4377478
| It would be an interesting event to plan a trip around. Timing, cost and cash flow are on the bottom line. |
Whitewidower
Greensboro, AL
January 08, 2008
09:00 PM Post #4377505
| I think it is a great idea. I have been with field trials for over forty years. I have learn to set a date, set a place those who can come will and those who can't won't. Take a lot of pictures and have some to keep notes. |
mystic
Ewing, KY
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
09:09 PM Post #4377547
| I didn't vote because I really don't have an answer I would love to attend but I doubt I will since the location will be to far away and also I think it will be out of my budget. I think it's a great idea and would love to see it happen and who knows I could surprise ya. lol I think there has been lots of great input here and I hope it happens. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 08, 2008
09:10 PM Post #4377550
| Trish...thanks for that explanation that it would be 500 miles from Texas (within...I understand). I definitely prefer NOT the east coast because the airports are so messy and it is so crowded that coming from a long distance away there are all kinds of chances for delays etc.
Carol |
davidmk
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
09:12 PM Post #4377561
| Yes but only if there were cactus and succulent vendors and lectures/workshops.
Thanks!
David |
carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
09:13 PM Post #4377568
| Trish, I have an idea as to the identity of the "Boston Dave" - the fact that Dave visited Boston (Waltham, Ma?) and was at Kassia's RU in Framingham, MA in Oct. of 2006 may be confusing people who met him there then, or even who heard on the NorthEast Forum that he was there then. Although there are many people named Dave, even many on this site, there is only one DavesGarden Dave, and he lives in Texas with his wife Trish and their children. Hope I helped. xx, Carrie |
starlight1153
Seale, AL
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
09:15 PM Post #4377576
| yes, I would come and here are the if's...
I will be flying as my vechile won't make it that far. travelign alone to a strange city can be intimidating, I would like to be assured that once arrivign at the airport in Texas that I can easily get to a cheap, clean, safe motel and to the event and back to the hotel easily without worries.
That there will be other places of interest to see, like others this would have to be a mini vacation and just can't affor d to travel cros s country to just to visit with folks, even though I woudl love to meet everybody.
If it wasn't during growing and selling season. Early months of the year are spent growing and tansplanting crops and sales are all done in a few months after that because of the heat and drought and can't affor d to lose misse d sales. Any time after middle of June to end of August things have quieted down and the rush is over for a little bit and have time to relax. |
frausnow
Winterville, GA
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
09:18 PM Post #4377594
| As much as I would love to, I would not be able to attend. Unfortunately, my DH does not share my enthusiasm for gardening and would not go. Since we only have one vehicle which he needs to get to work, that leaves me without transportation. Then there's the distance and cost factor.
If by some miracle I could swing it financially; be able to hitch a ride with another DGer; be able to share a room to cut costs, then I would want to go. Who knows, a lot can happen in a year's time. l think it's a wonderful idea and I hope it comes to fruition for those of you who can participate. Good luck!
JoAnn |
Tammy
Barto, PA
(Zone 6b)
January 08, 2008
09:26 PM Post #4377641
| I would go if the timing were right. It gets awfully busy in the spring. If the
conference could be held in Jan/Feb/Mar I would go. Not if its in Apr/May/June
Fall & Winter months would be OK.
Tam |
nap
Depew, NY
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
09:40 PM Post #4377691
| If the "no" answers are important to know about, then I will add mine. Unfortunately, I have responsibilities that have to take preference. But I wish I could be there. Sounds like a fabulous idea. |
plwinteregg
Tatum, NM
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
09:45 PM Post #4377713
| Dave,
As a vendor I think this would be interesting, but wonder if spring is the best time. For us it's our busiest season, and for many gardeners it's crunch time. It would be nice to have a venue to meet with our customers, though. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
09:46 PM Post #4377718
| We appreciate all of your comments, be they yes or no. We desperately want this to happen. With such a huge membership, 340,000+...how can it not? |
floweringchild
Jamestown, KY
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
09:48 PM Post #4377729
| I would want to attend IF it is during my spring break so I can get off from work, IF it is within 8 hours drive from me, IF the lodging is affordable, etc.
Judy |
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
09:48 PM Post #4377730
| I thought that Dave's Garden was purchased by a Boston based company - and that Dave attended company functions there. Hence my question regarding Boston (company HQ) vs Dave's Texas home in computing the 500 miles. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
09:54 PM Post #4377747
| Please scroll up for the previous posts from Trish. |
music2keep
Peterstown, WV
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
09:55 PM Post #4377752
| I would absolutely Love to attend, but money is an obstacle for me. :( |
tillysrat
Poulsbo, WA
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
09:55 PM Post #4377756
| I would Love to go, but its a no for me, to far, no money ect.
I would like to see Dave take a map of the states and divided into 4s and pick the center area for a Expo,s then maybe more of us could attend. Sorry make that 5 so the UK can be part of it to, and those that can travel can be at any of them if they want to go
I read all the treads and only saw 2 not counting me, from the upper west coast.
If it was 500 miles from me I would be there. I can drive that.
Just a thought LOL
Tills
The truth is that really no matter where it is, there will be people for whom it is too far. If it were on the east coast it would be too far for folks on the west coast. If it were on the west coast then too far for those on the east coast. North or south is the same. Even if it were smack dab in the middle of the whole country it would be too far for someone, not to mention DGrs from other countries. So the first one will be within a 500 mile radius of the Bryan/College Station area. The one in 2010 can be somewhere else further north, south, east or west. Truth is, even if it is 500 miles away from here, I'm still going to do my darnedest to be there. Just my 2 cents.
Anne.
I tried to Quote Anne,s statement didnt work
This message was edited Jan 8, 2008 5:58 PM |
greenbrain
Madison, IL
(Zone 6a)
January 08, 2008
10:06 PM Post #4377791
| I would love to attend if I'm able to work out personal issues; such as; financing, coordinating with co-workers & family commitments. |
Mibus2
(Phyllis) Flint,, TX
(Zone 7b)
January 08, 2008
10:17 PM Post #4377830
| ok I started reading every post then scrolled down to put in my IF
My IF's are
I know far enough in advance to get it off from work and IF my piggy bank will hold the change I put in it and not let me get it out for anything else so I can start saving up.
oh and just a thought ...with the mentioning of flying of course depending on when it is for those that would fly if there is enough notice and gas prices don't jack things up you can get good deals by booking early.
matter of fact my DH had 2 boys back in Illinois and they are coming down to visit for a week the end of the month and I found tickets for them for about 382.00 round trip for 2 with American and I know Untied had round trip for 422.00 for 2
Both were going from O'Hare to Dallas and back.
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Joan
Belfield, ND
(Zone 4a)
January 08, 2008
10:21 PM Post #4377845
| I voted that I would not attend. However, I don't know why, because I was taught to never say never. :)
I really don't know if I would attend or not. This year I got to pick our vacation spot and I chose to go to Kentucky at that round-up time. I know Dave (my DH Dave that is) had a good time so if this is in 2009, you never know. A lot would depend on what time of the year it was, as that would determine if could both get away from work for the amount of time it would take us to drive that far and back again. He won't fly if he can drive, and I could fly down myself depending on how much the airline tickets, lodging and everything cost. I wouldn't feel right using too much of our vacation budget to go somewhere without him. |
Connie_W
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
10:24 PM Post #4377861
| I voted yes, (I'm excited about this!! ) with reservations, which are:
1. cost of entrance would be offset by events at the Expo that would interest me
2. location is a safe city as my DH would not be interested in going. ( New Orleans is not one of them. DH flies there every week and would not allow me to go there right now.) Any distance is okay with me. I can save for airfare, hotels, etc.
Also...this entire thread is very confusing as what follows here is part of Dave's Poll Message:
"The first ever Dave's Garden Expo is in the planning stages and we would like to hear from you! The date is tentatively Spring '09, the distance would be within 500 miles of Dave."
In this thread we're told the time of year is not yet set! ("Spring 09?) and the place is not yet set when everyone knows 500 miles from Dave is still logically Texas, which is not central to the Northern US.
Could Dave possibly change the wording of the poll if the time and place are not truly set in stone? I think that would help a bit.
Thanks!
Connie
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This message was edited Jan 8, 2008 8:26 PM |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 08, 2008
10:26 PM Post #4377867
| Connie - 500 miles is OK, KN, TN, AR, LA, and TX - part of all of them. |
Connie_W
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
10:27 PM Post #4377876
| Yes, but are the cities in those areas set up for large conventions? |
stressbaby
Fulton, MO
January 08, 2008
10:37 PM Post #4377920
| For me it totally depends on the date.
SB |
bigbubbles
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
10:45 PM Post #4377943
| I posted the following early this morning on another thread:
I'm with you knolan...as for the vote for a DG convention. I'd just want to know a little more about it.
I've been to a few Master Gardener conf. and we tend to congregate with our own group...when we have time. When there are demos and speakers, we break off and head to those that interest us...but we always eat together, shop the nurseries, have after hours parties... Time is the driver. So much is crammed into a few days. There just isn't much time for meeting others. I met other MGers thru the state rep mtgs at A&M...but I really didn't meet many others at the conf. 'Just too busy...
I'd be more in favor of a state-wide conf. of DGers. BUT, that's just my own personal opinion...please don't shoot the messenger! |
Edens_Gardener
Clay Center, KS
(Zone 5b)
January 08, 2008
10:48 PM Post #4377951
| Sounds like a great idea. As we are retiring this year, we may or may not find it affordable, but I can't help but think it ought to be an event worth a major consideration. Definitely interested! |
ladygardener1
Near Lake Erie, NW, PA
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
10:51 PM Post #4377964
| Location is important, and ease of getting there. And once there how far away are the accommodations. And once started and sucessful would it move around the country so other gardeners could attend in the years to come.
|
outtamygourd
Port Angeles, WA
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
11:07 PM Post #4378029
| Maybe a good idea would be a "traveling" garden party...one that would visit various locations around and make it more feasible for more people to attend. Texas is far for many and requires: 1) Lots of money (gas is over $3/gal here right now and many would require lodging) and, 2) Lots of time (not everyone is retired and vacation or PTO would have to be used, which is not necessarily a problem). Also...the question was posed in an earlier reply...what type of "party" is this? Will there be seminars? Vendors? Plant swaps? Social events? This could pan out as a very worthwhile event but I personally feel limiting it to one location will exclude a number of potential participants. Perhaps try it out in one location this year. If it's successful and seems to be worth pursuing, add a few more regional locations...Portland, Chicago, Denver, Miami, etc. |
pajaritomt
Los Alamos, NM
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
11:09 PM Post #4378036
| Only if it doesn't conflict with stuff I have already planned that is important to me. Question: what would we do besides talk? Any good field trips around where Dave lives? |
gardengal401
Catoosa, OK
January 08, 2008
11:12 PM Post #4378050
| Hope it's in Dallas or Fort Worth. Would love to visit with other gardeners. Maybe our garden group could come together. |
lroot
Altadena, CA
January 08, 2008
11:14 PM Post #4378061
| I think it is a great idea, but I would only attend if it was in California somewhere.
Lonny |
3RDPIGKID
Saint Louis, MO
January 08, 2008
11:20 PM Post #4378096
| Would love to be there if I can (a) afford the expense and (b) get off work!!! |
speckledpig
Satsuma, AL
(Zone 8b)
January 08, 2008
11:35 PM Post #4378153
| No, I can't even make it to my regional gatherings, much less something so far from the bay area.
But, I hope it works out for the proponents of such a get-together...
Regards,
David |
silverfluter
Fredericksburg, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 08, 2008
11:37 PM Post #4378161
| Well, I can't remember who, but somebody said it would have to be not too organized, because they want plenty of time for visiting. I like that idea. The people I have met through DG have been so wonderful and I think of them almost every day. I can't imagine being in the same room or building or hotel or whatever with a DG crowd and not searching out the people I've already "met" online. The conventions that I've been to in the past were mostly for the purpose of lectures and seminars and going through vendors booths. That would be fine to do, but a chance to meet DG people would be my first priority. |
ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)
January 08, 2008
11:41 PM Post #4378171
| Already have some commitments for Spring 2009 - primarily a Handbell Festival in which the group I direct will be participating. It all depends on the timing with that and with my orchestra schedule which I won't know for awhile. And of course, as a Canadian, there's no way I can legitimately bring plants home. So, realistically, I probably wouldn't get there.
Ann |
gardener105
Bend, OR
(Zone 5a)
January 09, 2008
12:00 AM Post #4378251
| I would love to but can't afford it. 500 miles in what direction from Dave's? |
pebble
Bodrum, Turkey
(Zone 10a)
January 09, 2008
12:07 AM Post #4378272
| I would do my darndest to schedule my trip back to the states to coincide with this event, and will definatley make it if I am in the country. plenty of notice for the date would be the key for me.
|
Katye
Sammamish, WA
(Zone 7b)
January 09, 2008
12:21 AM Post #4378319
| gardener105: scroll up about 1/3 of the way to see the map. |
1_Lucky_Texan
Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
12:41 AM Post #4378385
| Given the nature of the internet these days - would there be a way to 'stream' some of the activities onto the DG or related website ?
Also, could some 'mini conferences' be set up in such a way that greetings and other info could be sent 'live' to other parts of the country over the Net - with maybe a video projecter at the 'main' conference. Sorta like they do with Muscular Dystrophy and other telethons?
I dunno - just some thoughts
Carl
|
balvenie
Marysville, WA
(Zone 7a)
 January 09, 2008
01:00 AM Post #4378436
| I think the gathering is a good idea, made especially appropriate by the great increase in attendance and notoriety. Dave's Garden is able to share space with any other scientific organization and there is no reason it shouldn't hold forth with its own conference, meeting,seminar or whatever name is fitting. In my perspective, it would be more of an educational assembly than a roundup, though as with most meetings there is always time for fun and socializing. This is merely my opinion, take it for what its worth. |
jasmerr
Merrimac, WI
(Zone 4b)
January 09, 2008
01:03 AM Post #4378446
|
| Quoted: | | it would be more of an educational assembly than a roundup, though as with most meetings there is always time for fun and socializing |
balvenie - I agree with you...if there aren't going to be lectures, seminars, etc., it will be an RU. I would like it to be a full out conference with friends! |
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)
January 09, 2008
01:08 AM Post #4378460
| I'm in agreement with balvenie, also. I think we're looking for something different than an RU on a national scale... and scheduling seminars or other events in morning and afternoon sessions would still leave plenty of time in between and in the evening for play! I always managed to do plenty of socializing at academic meetings... And if a you're not interested in a particular scheduled event, that's the time when you hit the floor to check out the vendors or hook up with a friend who's also playing hooky. :-) |
CBernard
Perris, CA
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
01:20 AM Post #4378488
| My wife and I would like to attend very much. The only problem besides cost is if my wife can get time off from her job.
Thanks,
Chuck |
CoastieWife
Blanco, TX
January 09, 2008
01:25 AM Post #4378495
| I will be there!!! If it is in Texas.
I hope this happens. Can't wait to go. |
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 09, 2008
01:26 AM Post #4378496
| Probably not. In addition to expenses, I lose my live in pet sitter (son) to college this summer. |
goshsmom
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6a)
January 09, 2008
01:33 AM Post #4378511
| I'm sorry to admit that I haven't read every post in the replies, but a whole lot have to do with distance & dollars. Could we think abt a couple of possibilities
1. A central conference site within 500 miles of Dave's, but with 5-10 regional conferences, sharing via webcast. That would also enable more local vendors to participate.
2. If there's just one central conference, it could still be webcast. Demos of plants/ products/ procedures could be saved for the website or sold as DVDs for donations to a worthy cause.
3. It would be nice, whether or not this is conference or garden party related, to get together & work togther on a regional project to spread knowledge or seeds in honor of DG.
IMHO
Pat |
KaperC
No. San Diego Co., CA
(Zone 10b)
January 09, 2008
01:33 AM Post #4378513
| Sorry, too far and too expensive. I sure hope it happens, though - I think it's a great idea! |
jataylor
Marble Falls, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
01:48 AM Post #4378534
| IF seems to be a major stuck point with a lot of people here... maybe the poll should have said might be able to come period. So far I agree with Aunt Anne ,,,
just my 2 cents worth... San Antonio in the springtime would be a really good location ... several sights to see in the city and the Hill Country wildflowers would be out too. |
slowtornado
Belle Plaine, KS
January 09, 2008
02:15 AM Post #4378557
| I would love to attend. my hubB says it would not be out of the question. We are just on the 500mi mark. I have suggested Wichita in the other thread. Wichita's Century ll has had 40+ years experience hosting the Wichita Garden Show. Botanica is an award winning botanic garden. The Sedgwick County Zoo has a brand new gorilla exhibit. There are several nature preserves and public wild areas close by. Shopping is abundant and varied. Countless movie theatres, including a drive-in theatre which shows triple features all summer. And was totally refurbished in 06. The Wichita River Festival attracts at least 100,000 people for 1 week every May. Info about any one (or all) of these features is available on-line, just Google! All types of sports are available to watch or play. Several new YMCA's have been built in the last 3 years.
It is just an idea. We are in the middle of the country and a wider circumference will bring in a wider area of DGer's.
Denver, Sioux Falls, St. Louis, Cape Girardeau and Clovis are all inside the 500mi. circle. Think about Wichita☺ |
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)
January 09, 2008
02:15 AM Post #4378559
| You don't even say where "Dave" is. How do we know if we are 500 miles or across the street?
|
GrammysGardenAZ
Cochise, AZ
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
02:19 AM Post #4378567
| http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4376866 This will take you to map someone posted in this thread. |
Jax4ever
Boxford, MA
(Zone 6a)
January 09, 2008
02:31 AM Post #4378575
| I checked "Only If"- I like our regional roundups, but I'd only go for an international one if I can get there, have a good time, and get back w/o spending more than $2000. Even then, I'd have to think about how much else I could be doing w/ that money (a new irrigation system, loam, tree work, koi pond, new fencing...!!!)
In retrospect, maybe it's not a good idea. What would be the point? We exchange ideas and trades here in cyberspace. If some of us strike up a closer relationship, we can choose to travel to each other's gardens, or meet 1/2 way. |
Crasulady2
Valley Village, CA
January 09, 2008
02:32 AM Post #4378577
| I'll be there if not dead, and if it isn't the same year as the CSSA conventuon. I'll be willing to help, I have had experience working on a large convention. You will need to get the Hotel now. Large hotels that can hold a convention like program will need to be booked immediately. Start making an outline of what you want to do at this convention. People don't need to attend any programs that you might want to give, they can go to a welcome room and drink coffee etc. and talk all day, if they is what they want to do with their vacaction time. They can visit gardens, hike, see films of plants, etc, or go shopping, just have options for all. Programs I can help with, I know people who can give programs, and are very experienced. I've seen enough of them over the past 15 years. |
jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)
January 09, 2008
02:53 AM Post #4378599
| per chance, if located in (preferabily) Ft Worth or Dallas. |
gapeahen
Donna in Douglas, GA
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
03:09 AM Post #4378606
|
I'm sitting on GO! Let's get the plans started! Hubby & I need a long vacation!!
Donna |
deanna8
Raeford, NC
January 09, 2008
04:51 AM Post #4378646
| I will make it easy and just say yes for now . Deanna |
Tink2U
Rockford, IL
January 09, 2008
05:01 AM Post #4378649
| Yes, I would attend if only I knew where you were!! I am within 500 miles of the Internet!! ROFLOL
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pbtxlady
Garland, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
05:18 AM Post #4378656
| You can't be. My dh moved the Internet to his recycle bin last week. |
pbtxlady
Garland, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
05:24 AM Post #4378659
| I voted yes. I'm very interested in such an event, if that's what you guys are trying to determine. |
LAKelley2
Titusville, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 09, 2008
07:09 AM Post #4378701
| pbtxlady... ROFLMAO!!!! Your remark about your husband moving the internet to the recylce bin is priceless!
I'm game for a conference. Final decision will be on cost, work schedule, etc. |
ozarkian
Gravois Mills, MO
(Zone 6a)
January 09, 2008
08:06 AM Post #4378760
| I understand the concept of convention but I do not know what your trying to do here exactly. But if your thinking of something along the line of a convention with workshops etc, you better decide where you want it for sure and start trying to roundup people to conduct your work shops etc. I know how big a job this stuff can be. I helped organize the National convention for the National Association of the Deaf in St Louis several years ago. You got to be a year ahead on your planning. A lot of companies will send reps free to conduct seminars, But others may not. It is a tax dodge for them. I think something along the line of a convention is what you need and maybe plan for 3-5 days. |
bermudakiller
Union Grove, AL
January 09, 2008
08:20 AM Post #4378773
| I'd come if i could, location, date ect. all have to be considered. |
MaryMcP
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
08:33 AM Post #4378793
| It's not terribly important to me to meet my DG buddies 'in the flesh', I'm fine just chatting online with folks. Bottom line: There would have to be some other compelling reason to travel to Texas. |
patticake512
Clifton Park, NY
January 09, 2008
08:49 AM Post #4378812
| I would love to come- Much depends on selling my house.. Or winning the lottery!
It would be great... We'll have to wait and see what the future holds. :) |
LostIndian
Algonac, MI
January 09, 2008
09:07 AM Post #4378859
| 500 miles FROM Dave sounds very selfish of Dave.
Does Dave even give a note about a more central location bearing in mind the distances between ALL of his members to [an] even point location? Why should I have to travel 1500+ miles? Dave should have to travel 1500+ miles instead.
Those living in another country wouldn't be able to make it UNLESS they are financially well off.
It sounds as though Dave doesn't or can't give enough info to make a sound decision on such a matter: just "hopeful generalizations" to make more money off of gardners and the vendors Dave wants to sell space to. |
frostweed
Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
09:14 AM Post #4378882
| LostIndian, you are totally wrong about Dave, he is not selfish and he is a very nice person.
Josephine. |
shrubbs
Beavertown, PA
(Zone 5b)
January 09, 2008
09:23 AM Post #4378922
| I would love to go, but money and time are against me. |
generator
Superior, WY
January 09, 2008
09:25 AM Post #4378927
| I cant even afford to pay the extra to have all the funtions enabled on this website much less take a trip to Texas. |
ceeadsalaskazone3
Seward, AK
January 09, 2008
09:33 AM Post #4378947
| I would certainly be interested in a video of the event, with interviews of Dave, Terry, and all the ubers and... (I have quite the list.) lol
This message was edited Jan 9, 2008 5:49 AM |
rvnsbrk
Leesburg, VA
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
09:40 AM Post #4378973
| Love to go, If centrally located. These things always tend to be located for the West Coast and Deep South forgetting about us in the Northern regions. |
crashbandiscoot
Springfield, OH
(Zone 6a)
January 09, 2008
09:42 AM Post #4378980
| I like that idea, a video, I'd LOVE to attend, just wouldn't be able to afford it. |
gardenlady123
Plainwell, MI
(Zone 5b)
January 09, 2008
09:58 AM Post #4379039
| wow whay an opportunity id love to come depends on how far... and of course the $$$$$. id be willing to share a ride with someone split the cost of fuel and what not. but if its down by texas probably not. well see how it progresses huh? would love to see that part of the u.s. though. Ronna |
DonShirer
Westbrook, CT
(Zone 6a)
January 09, 2008
10:11 AM Post #4379087
| A great idea, and I'd like to try
But have to bail, cause the wife won't fly. |
tarponweeder
Tarpon Springs, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 09, 2008
10:29 AM Post #4379162
| Would love to but ... I have already voted no, but would attend in a flash if DH's health permits.
How about a rolling caravan / carpool from the Sunshine State to the Lone Star State?
The whole idea sounds fantastic! |
jasmerr
Merrimac, WI
(Zone 4b)
January 09, 2008
10:35 AM Post #4379186
|
| Quoted: | | How about a rolling caravan / carpool |
If there are enough people from the same area, they could look into chartering a bus (not DG the group). |
AuntAnne
College Station, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
10:45 AM Post #4379221
| There's an idea. What about "scholarships" ie a fund for those who can come but simply can't afford? That's an idea as well.
Anne |
n2birds
Lakeland / Memphis, TN
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
10:52 AM Post #4379248
| I voted that I would not be able to come. HOWEVER, as alot of you voiced a location that was desirable to them - being Memphis, so if it was in Memphis - I'd for sure be there ! And would help as much as possible. We do have quite a bit to offer in our area. And for those whose spouses don't garden, there is gambling in Tunica, fishing parks, Bass Pro Shop (may have a spectaular one at the Pyramid by then)and alot of other attractions. |
hymenocallis
Auburn, AL
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
10:58 AM Post #4379264
| If location is right and timing is right maybe I could go. Even though I voted yes but only if these are my ifs. Would have to convince my wife too. I am the gardener in my household. |
alymid
Waukegan, IL
(Zone 5a)
January 09, 2008
11:04 AM Post #4379283
| I think like many it would depend on the location and the costs associated - hotel rate, registration rate, what classes offered etc. |
Syrumani
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
11:04 AM Post #4379285
| LostIndian - there has to be a location picked for the first convention . . . and since it is Dave's Garden, why not have the first one within 500 miles of Dave? This doesn't mean that all future ones would be held within those limitations . . . I would think that it would have a different location for each (if any) future convention. |
CompostR
south central, PA
(Zone 6b)
January 09, 2008
11:08 AM Post #4379292
| I'd happily attend if it was near home (south central PA) which it doesn't sound like it would be.
|
rutholive
Tonasket, WA
(Zone 5a)
January 09, 2008
11:13 AM Post #4379309
| I would love to attend IF my health would allow. Traveling is difficult for me now. I used to go to Daylily , iris, lily, and other conventions and loved meeting all the people, etc. As far as I know there has not been a RU, regional, local or state near me, ever.
Donna |
jasmerr
Merrimac, WI
(Zone 4b)
January 09, 2008
11:23 AM Post #4379344
| There are lots of talented people connected with DG (members and vendors) and we might be able to get our speakers from within with very little cost.
Maybe a thread with a 'wish-list' of seminars, vendors, etc. would be helpful. |
cat64129
(Cathy), MO
January 09, 2008
11:41 AM Post #4379406
| I voted Yes_if, but plan on being there unless something unforeseen happens. I think the attendance would be better the more centrally located it could be. (Helps that I'm right in the middle of the the US doesn't it?! :-) However, I would probably come anyway.
*A little over a year gives me enough time to save up extra moneys
*I can get off work if I give them enough notice
*I won't fly so will be driving, wherever it ends up being. And if I come alone, would be more than willing to pick up others on the way. |
Gabrielle
Washington, IL
(Zone 5a)
January 09, 2008
11:43 AM Post #4379415
| I wouldn't be in a position to attend and haven't read all of the postings, so sorry if this has already been mentioned. In regards to hotel prices ... could Dave get a "block rate?" I know a lot of festivals, events and conventions are able to reserve a chunk of rooms at a greatly discounted rate. I've been to music festivals that the festivities continued on into the wee hours of the morning back at the hotel atrium (and bar). |
snapple45
Holland, OH
(Zone 5b)
January 09, 2008
11:44 AM Post #4379419
| I just took a hard look at the map. The 500 mile radius includes the ocean? How about nudging it a little more realistically inland? Before I would pay my convention fees I would take a hard look at the exhibitors. If it is mostly for a zone I don't garden in then I'm not sure the long trip would be worth it. |
Braveheartsmom
Kihei, HI
(Zone 11)
January 09, 2008
11:45 AM Post #4379423
| Being a caregiver and living in the middle of the Pacific Ocean I am unlikely to be able to attend the Party, no matter where it's held.
It's a lovely idea, and I wish you well with the event. I would have loved to be able to say "Yes", but at this point, as you are trying to gather numbers, I have to say "No". In my heart it's "Maybe"...
|
Allie88
Palmyra, PA
(Zone 6a)
January 09, 2008
12:18 PM Post #4379554
| I love the idea but I'm on the East Coast. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
02:20 PM Post #4380067
| LostIndian apparently has not read through all the threads. This "GARDEN PARTY" was not Dave's idea, but rather a couple of DG'ers, who came up with the plan. We all thought it would be really great if "The Dave" could be in attendance - that is why the decision was made for the 500 mile radius of where Dave and his family live in Texas, so that Dave and family would be able to attend. DG is his business and I imagine his days are pretty hectic trying to keep this website operating properly, so it was stated that he would make every effort to attend if it were held within 500 miles of where he lives.
There are many folks, for many different reasons who will not be able to attend the first annual Dave's Garden Party, or even the second or third if they come to be. It's understandable with different incomes, circumstances and family obligations that there will be folks who will not be able to attend.
If this first one gets off the ground, I hope it will end up being an annual event in a different city around the country each year, but if that is not possible, I will try to attend even if it ends up being in the same location year after year! I have only been a member of DG for a little over a year now and have met some great people here in this on-line garden and would love to meet them in person! I love to travel and think an annual DG event would be great fun ... whether it be a huge convention with thousands or a little "garden party" in a park somewhere with a hundred DG'ers!
edited to add: Chocolatemoose, I love your username! I would love to go to the North Pole (in summer of course.) I wonder how many besides me would be willing to travel to Alaska for a Garden Party? You said no one in their right mind leaves Alaska after April 1st?? Why??
This message was edited Jan 9, 2008 1:33 PM |
cat64129
(Cathy), MO
January 09, 2008
02:23 PM Post #4380082
| I agree. And like you pointed out there will always be people unable to attend. No matter how hard you try, you can't please everyone. Distance will be a factor, as well as health and finances. As long as I can get where ever it's going to be, in a days drive, I plan to come.
This message was edited Jan 9, 2008 12:49 PM |
Garden4ever
Plymouth, WI
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
02:34 PM Post #4380124
| Yes, and lets all remember to keep our comments positive. After all, there wouldn't BE a Dave's Garden site for us if it wasn't for Dave, and rightly so, he is the guest of honor! |
gardener105
Bend, OR
(Zone 5a)
January 09, 2008
03:30 PM Post #4380342
| Thanks Katye, Now I KNOW I won't be able to attend. |
kimskreations
Kennebunk, ME
(Zone 5a)
January 09, 2008
03:50 PM Post #4380419
| I won't be able to attend until the Garden Party is held in Maine but I certainly hope all my friends that can attend have a WONDERFUL time and send me pictures *hint, hint* Lin :)
|
Gardengirl1204
Richmond, VA
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
04:34 PM Post #4380608
| Didn't Dave tell us about 6 mos ago he was moving to Boston because DG was bought by a Boston company? I know I'm not imagining this... |
drapelady
Denham Springs, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
04:42 PM Post #4380641
| Because of not enough votes in the positive Dave has ended the Idea of the Expo for now. See his notice on Daves Garden Forum. Thanks to all of you that were positive.
Debbie |
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 09, 2008
05:18 PM Post #4380798
| Texas is just too dang big! |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
05:28 PM Post #4380834
| Dont blame Texas, the real fault is in the number of people that said yes - there is not not the people needed for this type of thing to work. |
Syrumani
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
05:54 PM Post #4380945
| I think there might have been better numbers if a location was picked first. Maybe that can be taken into consideration the next time around. |
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
06:07 PM Post #4380991
| Thank you, Committee...for your hard work. Jo |
gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
06:09 PM Post #4380996
| We truly appreciate the hard work by the committee and someday it will work!
gail |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
06:13 PM Post #4381016
| Thank you we are all very proud of the work we did, we love our site and each other at the end of the day. That said - I doubt there will ever be a next time around. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
06:31 PM Post #4381095
| Hey! If there's ever a Dave's GardenTexas Garden Party ... I'll come! I went through the huge state of Texas 38 years ago on the way to California. |
gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
07:10 PM Post #4381275
| Lin, there is a big round up where Dave lives. I am going to try and go this year. Please please come for this big RU. |
PeeperKeeper
Georgetown, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
07:11 PM Post #4381280
| My "yes but only if" was if nothing major comes up to interfere such as illness in the family, serious turn for the worse in financial situation, etc.
edit* sorry, didn't see the idea was nixed. Why do you say there won't be a "next time around"? Just because there are a few naysayers is no reason not to try again. I think it was a fantastic idea.
This message was edited Jan 9, 2008 5:20 PM |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
07:16 PM Post #4381299
| Gail, what is the closest airport with hotel and I would need info on local transportation? I don't drive on the Interstate. And, when is it this year? |
PeeperKeeper
Georgetown, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
07:26 PM Post #4381350
| Why do you say over 300 people in the couple of days the vote was going on isn't enough to have a party? Not everyone who is a member of DG even saw that it was happening. I am in the birding forum almost every day, and have been visiting roses, clematis and indoor gardening lately too, but I didn't see anything about this until a couple of hours ago.
I don't know why it needs to be any particular size for everyone to get together. Just adjust the size of your venue to match the number of expected guests. It may not be huge the first year, but it would grow over time.
edit* Why was there even a "no I can't make it" option on the vote in the first place? Weren't you just trying to find out how many might come? Why would it matter how many couldn't?
This message was edited Jan 9, 2008 5:28 PM |
gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
07:49 PM Post #4381435
| I will look up all this information and let you know, Lin. I haven't been to College Station or Bryan since the good old college football days...long ago!
I am trying to think which airport is closest to Bryan. Will get back to you with more up to date answers. |
drapelady
Denham Springs, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
07:58 PM Post #4381478
| Ok, now that I am free to speak openly about Daves Garden Expo. Let me tell ya'll what we missed out on.
It was to be held in Grapevine Texas. People arriving from the DFW airport would have been greeted by one of us on the shuttle and driven to your wonderful hotel . The rooms were going to be booked in bulk, probably running around $70 - $90 a night(depending on number of attendees). You would have been meet by a smiling DGer that would walk you over to the registration desk and you would be given a packet with all kinds of goodies in along with a brochure with the scedule on it. Then you would be able to go up to your beautiful room and open the drapes and just relax after your long trip. You would have then been able to go downstairs to the gorgeous dining room and with your discount food tickets that you received in your packet have a wonderful meal at your leisure. After our meal, we would have gathered up with the rest of the DGer's in a large meeting room, just for us. It would more than likely be divided up into the different regions or forums. We would then be served coffee and deserts and spend an evening of just getting to know each other. Our host Dave would have given us a true Daves warm welcome as we munched on goodies.
We would have then broken up into smaller groups to either go see the town or just walk around the beautiful hotel garden. The next morning you would wake up refreshed and excited to get back to your friends. You would then pull out another discount food coupon from your packet of goodies and join up with other DG'ers around the buffet in the dining room. Drinking coffee, juice , eating fresh fruit, eggs, bacon, biscuits, anything you like. Then you head to one of the many different workshops and seminars available for us to enjoy. , After the fun time of sharing together in the workshops, then we have a lite lunch (or whatever you want) before we are off to the Garden Tour. As we come out of the hotel lobby, after lunch , we see these large Tour Buses with Daves Garden Banner's on them. Decked out in our Daves Garden Tshirts and Tote bags, Off we go to the beautiful Fort worth Botanical Gardens and to the Dallas Aboritorium. Where we walk and look and drink in the marvelous beauty all around us. It is spring, probably around March or April and the lite breeze brings us the fragrance of all the flowers. We go inside after a while and have a cool drink or coffee. Possibly that is where one of our speakers will teach us something awesome about gardening. Then we head back to Hotel. We all go up to our rooms, if we choose to and just relax for a while. Some of us may go sit outside by the pool. After a bit we all descend down from our rooms, and meet once again in the DG meeting room. Tables are set. Candles are twinkling on the tables. Well tonight is Grand because many will be receiving awards . We are served our complimentary Dinner, a wonderful meal. Our Mitch steps up to the potium and begins the ceremony. He calls Dave and Trish up to honor them with a gift, as we all clap so loudly for everything he has made possible for us. All of the winners of contest that were held on Daves Garden during 2008 will be honored. After the dinner we will be free to go out to see the town or just visit or rest in our beautiful rooms. The next morning we are up again decked out in our Daves Garden Tshirts and heading down to The Vendors. The vendors are all set up and waiting for us. They are loaded with discount coupons and they have an array of their plants and flowers and garden tools, etc. on display to show us. They all have a package of goodies for us to take home. Seed packs , discount coupons,catalogs, etc. They also have a place at their table where we can order and some of them will offer us free shipping so our plants will get to us shortly after we arrive home. Ahhhhhhh , the joy of it all. A full wonderful weekend of gardening. Some of us will be heading back to the Grapevine Rv Park, some of joining up with our spouses that went to play golf or watch the Nascar event in person. Some of us will be catching the shuttle to the airport. Some may just want to stay for a few extra days and make a vacation out of it. But all of us will leave happy, with our little packets loaded with all the info we need to produce a beautiful Daves Garden.
Yes, it would have been grand. And as many events as possible were to be webcast live on Daves Garden so that the ones of the DG family that weren't able to attend , would be able to experience the events.
Maybe another time. Maybe 2009 |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
08:03 PM Post #4381493
| Debbie, you have made me cry all over again. Just can't help it. |
drapelady
Denham Springs, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
08:06 PM Post #4381499
| Hi Christi, I missed you girl. It aint over til its over. :) Maybe I'll come visit you and we can just do it by ourselves. No, that would be too sad. |
frostweed
Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
08:07 PM Post #4381505
| Wow! that is a wonderful set up.!!! |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
08:08 PM Post #4381510
| Debbie, we, two, will get together. I promise you that. |
drapelady
Denham Springs, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
08:08 PM Post #4381512
| We'd have loved it. |
drapelady
Denham Springs, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
08:08 PM Post #4381516
| :) I know and we have to invite Mitch. He is so sad right now. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
08:09 PM Post #4381517
| I know. |
PeeperKeeper
Georgetown, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
08:10 PM Post #4381523
| See, you just described the SGGA, only on a grander scale. Why weren't details like that provided at the voting forum?
edit* Oops, just realized this isn't the thread where I talked about the SGGA. This is: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/799610/
This message was edited Jan 9, 2008 6:13 PM |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
08:14 PM Post #4381532
| It was explained to us that the number was first and foremost. No exceptions. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
08:15 PM Post #4381537
| Drapelady: What a Beautiful rendition of what was to be! So sad it isn't going to happen in 2009 but hopefully in the not too distant future this wonderful garden party will take place! I think your description of events would make so many folks want to be there! *** sigh ***
I sure appreciate all the hard work and dedication of the committee members who willingly took on the task of trying their best to make this happen! |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
08:15 PM Post #4381540
| I will be there - with bells on.
|
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
08:16 PM Post #4381542
| plantladylin - it will never happen... just trust us there is too much to do to get it off its feet.
|
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
08:16 PM Post #4381543
| We have all lived and breathed "The Party" for over 2 months. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
08:17 PM Post #4381546
| :( |
drapelady
Denham Springs, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
08:18 PM Post #4381549
| Hi Mitch. :) |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
08:18 PM Post #4381550
| I know - trust me, every spare minute was tlaking it up, calling people, I have four or five trees worth of paper here with ideas, places, and prices...
|
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
08:18 PM Post #4381552
| Hi :-) trying |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
08:19 PM Post #4381554
| As Do I. never have been good at disappointment. |
drapelady
Denham Springs, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
08:19 PM Post #4381556
| Mitch thats just your saddness talking , Never say never. Good grief man. :) |
snapple45
Holland, OH
(Zone 5b)
January 09, 2008
08:20 PM Post #4381558
| Oh Well! I'll take the "Dave's Garden Party" label off the gallon jug where I save my spare change every day and maybe put a "granite japanese garden lantern" label on it. I think I have about $1.38 in there now. It was gonna be slow. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
08:21 PM Post #4381562
| hahahaha. Snapple, I needed that. |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
08:22 PM Post #4381565
| I just do not see anyone really doing this on a national event level, it might happen and I hope to be there planning it and helping but for now I ahve to say I really dont see this happening.
But a party for friends... |
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)
January 09, 2008
08:22 PM Post #4381568
| I think it would have helped with the poll to know that a weekend event was what was being considered, and that hotel costs would hopefully be under $99 per night.
Is there any reason we can't revisit this idea in a year? Continuing to talk about the idea meanwhile would get more people excited about it and willing to make plans when/if the opportunity arose.
Meanwhile, we do have the regional RUs, which are wonderful! |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
08:26 PM Post #4381577
| Good possibility that the hotel package would have been $225 for two days including breakfast, shuttles, free meeting rooms, and friday and saturday night dinners. Just a minimal gate fee because we would be pulling from our own members and we hoped they wouldn't expect to be paid. Think Family Reunion.
We are family. |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
08:27 PM Post #4381582
| It would have been nice - and a way to honor the place we love. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
08:40 PM Post #4381633
| That would really be a great price too - $225 for two days including breakfast, shuttles and dinners the two nights!
Dave's Garden Family Reunion, or DG Family Vacation - would be so exciting. Hopefully it will happen in the not too distant future! |
drapelady
Denham Springs, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
08:46 PM Post #4381661
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silverfluter
Fredericksburg, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
08:50 PM Post #4381675
| That would have been a very extravagant weekend and loads of fun. But shouldn't the first one be simpler? If the first one was that great, the second one would have a lot to live up to. All that luxury is wonderful, but something simpler would still bring alot of people together. |
drapelady
Denham Springs, LA
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
08:54 PM Post #4381692
| What is wrong with a luxury weekend with a bunch of us in our DG tshirts. Geez, theres nothing wrong with having a nice weekend.
|
Garden4ever
Plymouth, WI
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
08:59 PM Post #4381705
| Thank you all for your efforts on this. Just so you guys know, if I would have read that post, I would give a resounding YES. I was a 'no' before because I hate interstates and hate flying, but this would be too wonderful to pass up no matter where it was held! |
silverfluter
Fredericksburg, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
09:02 PM Post #4381723
| You're right there isn't anything wrong with a luxury weekend, except that it is more complicated to arrange and more expensive to pay for. |
cat64129
(Cathy), MO
January 09, 2008
09:11 PM Post #4381765
| I agree, we should have had more information before voting. I think if most of the people who voted NO knew where and price ideas etc, they would have changed their votes in a heartbeat. And I think alot of us voted Yes__if, because we never know what's going to happen tomorrow. It was more a "Yes, unless an emergency comes up". I for one, don't feel like the whole thing got a fair trial. We should have had more information and the voting should have been for longer than 1-2 days.
Just my 2 cents worth. I was getting really excited about the whole idea and several of us from MO, were already talking about car pooling. And I just found out about the idea this morning!!! |
Syrumani
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
09:16 PM Post #4381789
| If a location had already been chosen, why couldn't that information be shared? I think that would have helped with the poll, as well. Oh, well . . . maybe next year . . . |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
09:20 PM Post #4381809
| Guys there is no next year, thank you for all the kind words but this will not be tried again for several years at best.
We really liked Grapevine - but we were still looking too, there are so many places we thoguht about and talked to. |
Syrumani
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
09:46 PM Post #4381917
| Next year - or whenever - if a place is decided on, let people know. Grapevine would have been to far for me at this time, but I'll bet the people up in OK, CO, upper LA, etc would have voted more. |
Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
09:53 PM Post #4381948
| So sad to hear the plans have taken the wrong path and everything is cancelled. Still need to go read Dave's notice...
I was being very silent because it was getting nervous about the negative input. Maybe down the road we can have something a bit larger than a RU, beginning in TX and then pull in the States around us. Who knows maybe five years down the road, others will see the potential. We have a lot of talented folks on Daves that can hold workshops for photography, butterfly raising, native plants, garden crafts, composting, landscape design...etc.
Many many thanks to the tireless committee members. I retire at the end of May and would have offered my help in any way. Drapelady thanks for the verbal vision you have shared, it was great to dream with you.
Sheila_FW |
nap
Depew, NY
(Zone 6a)
January 09, 2008
09:55 PM Post #4381958
| There will always be negative input on any discussion. The wise thing to do is ignore it. |
Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
09:59 PM Post #4381981
| A bit late to do that now. |
PeeperKeeper
Georgetown, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
10:30 PM Post #4382104
| Mitch, stop with the "it will never happen" 's please. Speak for yourself. Maybe you don't want to be involved, but someone else may have been inspired to want to take up the torch.
I really don't think this was given a fair chance at all. Expecting people to commit to something they have no vision of, as drapelady so eloquently provided after the fact is just ridiculous.
Basically, what was said is "We want to have a get together. We don't know where or when and we can't tell you anything about what it would be like, but we have to know how many people will definitely be there before we can tell you what we're doing."
I agree with silverfluter that it sounded wonderful, but the first one should be simpler. You keep saying "never" but maybe it just can't take place in that form. Why can't it grow into that vision? I say revisit it in a year. You may not want to think about it now because of the emotions, but give it a little time and some perspective and perhaps you'll feel better. |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
10:40 PM Post #4382130
| Pepper - we would all love to see this happen, all of us in this poured our heart and soul into this. Maybe it is the raw nerves in this speaking and if so I am wrong, I would love to have this happen - love to have this happen. |
Trish
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8b)
January 09, 2008
10:42 PM Post #4382147
| Regardless of what Mitch said, NO ONE (with the authority) is saying that this may never happen. In fact, for all anyone knows, we could revisit this issue in the near future.
Let me say again:
No one is saying that an event will never take place. No one is discounting it forever and ever.
While Debbi's vision is inspiring, it is not reality in as much as a destination had NOT been decided. Just as recently as yesterday, ideas were still flying through the air. To say that we had already made firm plans makes us all into liars, as we've been saying this whole time that nothing was set in stone.
I'll say that again:
NOTHING was set in stone.
Feel free to have get togethers. There is nothing stopping groups of people getting together without all of the commercialization of vendors and such. Expand your round-ups. Have lots of fun, and take lots of pictures. We all enjoy "visiting" via DG. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
10:43 PM Post #4382155
| I know there is a lot of sadness and disappointment in the Garden tonight but I really think the Garden Party WILL take place at some time, some day. Maybe it just wasn't meant to be in 2009 ... we can't totally give up on the idea. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
10:45 PM Post #4382163
| Well said, Trish! |
MitchF
Lindsay, OK
(Zone 7a)
January 09, 2008
10:45 PM Post #4382165
| Very true - infact out of this already in the Texas forum we are talking about a mixed gathering with other gardners, people are already thinking about maybe getting vendors... would be fun. |
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 09, 2008
11:09 PM Post #4382273
| I was one that unfortunately would be unable to attend but wondered at only 600 plus votes, versus the large DG membership.
| Quoted: | | our total number of members to 343,616. We have 6,630 paid subscribers. |
There does not appear to be a lot of viewing traffic right now and I wonder if the poll response might have been sent out to each member via their email (like the newletter is sent) for a different exposure and result. |
shellabella
West Central, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 09, 2008
11:12 PM Post #4382285
| Excellent observation and idea Podster! |
CMoxon
Urbandale, IA
(Zone 5a)
January 09, 2008
11:23 PM Post #4382325
| I just noticed the poll today. I voted "no" because I'm in part time law school (plus full time work) and would only be able to attend if it was between semesters. Not knowing a date means I can't say one way or the other. Cost would not be much of an issue for us. I hope the idea gets re-floated in future. I'd certainly enjoy going if it were between semesters (or after 2011, which is estimated finishing date for school). Dang it, why did I start this 4th degree anyway...I don't even really need it. Sigh. Always making life more difficult for myself!
With regard to viewing traffic, I use DG a LOT less in the middle of winter here in Iowa. Not exactly prime gardening time. |
gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
11:27 PM Post #4382339
| You sound like some perennial students I know (LOL) but fortunately, they are finally through with school (I hope).
There will be time for lots of different kinds of fun for all DGers. |
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)
January 09, 2008
11:30 PM Post #4382347
| Well, for those that live right there so it won't cost you anything to attend, have fun. Let us all know what you decide for the rest of us. Come to think of it, nobody has told us what the curriculum is to be at this meeting. How do you even know if you want to go?
LOL, maybe I just didn't read all of this thread.
Jeanette
|
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 09, 2008
11:53 PM Post #4382428
| The party has been officially called off for the time being: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/803138/ |
Helioman
Stratham, NH
(Zone 6a)
January 10, 2008
12:08 AM Post #4382497
| I hardly feel this discussion/trial/primary was given a whole lot of time. |
Katye
Sammamish, WA
(Zone 7b)
January 10, 2008
12:41 AM Post #4382607
| Just because the original idea had a less than desirable outcome should not doom it. I believe there are some worthy things to be learned:
Have 2 or 3 scenarios that people can reflect on - they don't have to be set in stone as they are IDEAS. Include time of year - location - general costs (ballpark).
Give people more time to respond.
I did read the entire thread as I was curious to see the response & reasoning.
It sounded like a great idea, but it was too nebulous for many. Look again at the number of respondants for each response, and reconsider from those viewpoints.
It is my opinion that you should not give up on this. Rather, approach it with the same enthusiasm AND with a more realistic assessment of the results.
Retool! Don't be discouraged just because the outcome was different from what you expected.
Thanks so much for your efforts & the best to you! |
knolan
Sugar Land, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 10, 2008
03:42 AM Post #4382817
| I'm just going to copy and paste my response from the other thread here:
Wow, even though I probably would not have been able to come next year (who knows, things can always change), I'm really sorry to see idea called off so quickly. I agree with Pepperkeeper's statements...too many if's and unknowns and only 2 days to vote? I feel this was a bit unfair to the subscribers who don't check in every day and definitely unfair to the folks who put in so much effort to begin the planning. Shouldn't the votes have been given at least a week? How much time do we give to voting on our photography contests and don't we allot that much time so that there is a fair assessment?
You guys on the committee worked hard and it's appreciated, even by those of us who may not have been able to come (but might have changed our minds as the time drew closer). I know that's not what you want to hear but that's probably realistic for a lot of us. Personally, I'm the type who may be a 'No' up until a month before and then end up rallying a group and renting a bus or a van...I just never know with myself.
Kudos to the efforts...each and every one of you. |
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 10, 2008
05:36 AM Post #4382864
| Sorry but imo, putting something out tentatively and asking for opinions is not a feasible way to arrange a large convention type affair. A date and location needs be booked, speakers and seminars confirmed travel agents contacted and then information put out for reservations. There is always going to be a difference of opinion and some who can not attend. I used to breed and show budgies, for example, and each year, there would be a national show. It was in a different area of the country each year and nothing was announced until everything was in concrete. It would be difficult to believe that with something like 20000 members in Texas alone, that only 37 people would attend. If "Daves" is serious about putting on something like this, "Build it and they will come". |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 10, 2008
09:32 AM Post #4383154
| Dave is not the one who was putting this on ... it was a few wonderful members who began the discussion. This Garden Party was being planned by a committee of DG'ers - all volunteer who were going to be doing all the work with setting this up for the rest of us. The committee members stressed over and over that they needed a tentative head count of attendees before any arrangements could be made. No companies (hotels, conference centers/rooms etc) would even talk to you without a tentative number of attendees. The voting was just to try and see how many folks would think they could come to the event.
I think next time there should be a thread for voting only yes or no ... make it impossible to post comments if that is possible ... just a yes or no box to check and a username. Have a separate thread for chat and comments. |
tabasco
Cincinnati (Anderson, OH
(Zone 6a)
January 10, 2008
09:38 AM Post #4383173
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Sorry to hear the news about the Garden Party. Regional RUs are fun but it would have been exciting to take the concept to a new level in 2009. Oh, well, as Trish says, the idea has not been tabled forever, just for the 2009 planning.
I tend to agree with Budgie though...getting a bit of 'buy in' from the members by inquiring about 'interests/speakers/activities' is a good thing to 'guide' planning, but setting some skeletal plans--place/date/format-- for the event in place, communicating the plans, and then marketing the event seems like an effective process to get the event launched.
Using this bolder plan to launch the Garden Party would require some start-up capital ($$) and lots of energy (and anxiety/hand wringing) up front to reserve a place, meeting rooms and speakers, etc. while waiting for the reservations to come in, and maybe that's where the rub is... There is an investment and risk of losing downpayments, etc., to do it in this manner and maybe not a risk/investment DG, Name Media and the volunteer organizers wants to take (given no track record for the Garden Party idea).
Well, the Garden Party was a fun and interesting idea and I think one of these days it will be launched.
And a big "Thank You!" to the organizers who put their time and energy into exploring the idea for 2009! |
budgielover
Pinellas Park, FL
(Zone 9b)
January 10, 2008
10:11 AM Post #4383281
| In "hobby clubs", members work all year to raise money to sponsor the event and the money comes out of the treasury to fund it. Then when the event takes place, the club earns back the money (or loses some) by charging vendors table space and the public admission fees. We also raised money by raffles, etc. I realize Daves is a commercial venture and not a hobby club but some of the same techniques could be applied. Perhaps the new owners could be approached about some "goodwill funding" to promote Daves' to the public. Most of us either stumble across this site by accident or are referred by friends and family. Extra publicity never hurt anyone. |
TwinLakesChef
OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA
(Zone 4b)
January 10, 2008
11:31 AM Post #4383577
| It may not have been the outcome you wished to see but some really good ideas came out of this from your members.
This effort was definitely NOT wasted or unappreciated. And the year it finally happens we will all be thankful and remember fondly that LouC started it.
Thank you, LouC.
edited to add that my vote was YES, I would come no matter the cost, location or time.
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llilyfan
South Central, IA
(Zone 5a)
January 10, 2008
11:44 AM Post #4383643
| Having heard nothing at all about this I didn't vote. After reading through all the posts I was going to go back and vote, but it was gone! I was like most people and could not commit to a garden party somewhere, sometime in 2009.
I love the idea and would make every effort possible to come to a National DG Party. I am sorry to see the idea was discarded so soon, I thought there was great potential here.
I too, appreciate all the effort, time, and energy those of you on the committee spent on this. Truly it is not wasted, and will be of benefit in the future. |
debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 10, 2008
01:15 PM Post #4383939
| Good point Jan!
Maybe this year (2008) we need to focus on ways to promote Dave's, and see what we can do to up the membership.
When I am out in the market place and mention DG, more often than not, the people haven't even heard of it. If there seems to be any inkling of interest I take out a business card and jot down the url.
Maybe we could offer something like 25-50 free subscriptions for signing in as a new free member. Maybe have other small but irresistible prizes as well for a number of them. Show actual samples of the many forums... Maybe some or all of this has already been done.
We could possibly hold Regional membership fairs and get **vendors** and some **news coverage**. We have as much to offer in the world of home and plants as PBS, it works for them, and DG is a lot less $$. How much would a radio spot be? What about a commercial offering free subscriptions for every 10 people who call in with a gardening question on already established garden related radio stations. There must be ways of getting the word out that don't cost a lot. Just thinking out of my head here folks...
Meanwhile...I will keep doing what I can in my neck of the woods.
Very glad the idea for the BIG event has been put out there at least. I was one who said I would go no matter what.
debnes |
Marylyn_TX
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 10, 2008
01:21 PM Post #4383959
| I'm sorry it has been postponed. I had to say yes, if.. but I would have tried hard! I hope it happens eventually, anyway. :-)
Thank you, committee folk, for all you did and hoped and ventured! We appreciate you more than you know. :-) |
broncbuster
Waxahachie, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 10, 2008
01:52 PM Post #4384013
| Deb is definately on the right track here! |
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)
January 10, 2008
02:02 PM Post #4384033
| Marylin...don't rent my bed just yet...I hope it still happens and I get to visit you and your nice family again!! Jo |
debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 10, 2008
02:12 PM Post #4384068
| thx TJ!
Me too Jo!
Perhaps some of you might be thinking.."No one offered me anything special.. yada yada." Well, we have arrived already and opening up this world to some people can mean the world to them! Good leadership is based on not only our ability to arrive first, but how we take and pass it down as a servant afterward tells the truest of leaders.
I learned yesterday of how the Cedar Waxwings will gather on a berry tree and if the berries are scarce they take one and pass it down until the last in line gets a berry. The health, integrity and safety of the whole flock is dependent on this kind of first in line service. Isn't that the way of any great organization?
I had another idea offering new members a couple different packets of free native plant seeds for their state if they join. It's true that many of the best native plant seeds are obtained here and never ever sold in stores, and rarely online without spending at least $15. I would pitch in 100 packets of say Frostweed, and/or Texas Blue Mist...
When people see just how connected we are and how welcome they are, they will come running. :-)
debnes |
frostweed
Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 10, 2008
02:16 PM Post #4384082
| You are such a sweetheart Debness. |
Marylyn_TX
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 10, 2008
05:14 PM Post #4384664
| The bed is yours, Jo, and you don't need any excuse to come use it! :-) |
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)
January 10, 2008
05:46 PM Post #4384780
| Well...I just learned of a Gourd Festival in TX about the middle of Oct. HMMMM...When is Dave's fall RU in Bryan? .LOL Jo |
Marylyn_TX
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 10, 2008
06:14 PM Post #4384882
| Last year it was in early November. They have one in Dallas in October, too. |
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)
January 10, 2008
07:01 PM Post #4385019
| Now if South West Air will let me get off for a few days as I fly through Dallas on my way to Nashville...LOL Jo |
Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 10, 2008
08:31 PM Post #4385288
| The ID isn't Roadrunner for nothing! LOL! |
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)
January 10, 2008
09:37 PM Post #4385517
| You got that right, SheilaFW...remember what a time I had with your name when we were at Dave's RU? JO |
Marylyn_TX
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 10, 2008
10:17 PM Post #4385644
| Just call her NOT CJ. |
Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 11, 2008
12:08 AM Post #4385990
| It would be even worse now Jo, my hair is straight like CJ's now! LOL! She and I will have to get togather on what to wear to the next RU! |
ceejaytown
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 11, 2008
01:43 AM Post #4386301
| Did I hear my name? Hallo out there! LOL!! Sheila, my hair is so short now I could pass as a boy. A very old boy!
I just read this thread, wondering what was going on. I felt the frustration in the posts. And I am not trying to stir this thing up again - it was really painful to know about all of the work that had gone into it. But I gotta say something. I am currently on the planning committee for the Texas Master Gardener Conference, to be held the latter part of April this year. We have been working on this for a year. Our first organizational meeting was last January and we have met at least once a month since, with all the work going on in between those meetings. It has been huge. We have put together what we think will be a wonderful conference with something for everybody. But we have no idea how many will come. We can hope, and pray, but there are no guarantees. If there are not enough, it would simply have to be canceled. Granted, we do have that "history". But - what I want to point out is - everybody knows where and what, on which they can base their decision. (In our case they also know how much, because we are able to guesstimate based on history.) Even though the where and what was not written in stone for this get together, if we had been given an inkling of the possibilities as put forth by Drapelady http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4381478, decisions could have been made. To ask will you go somewhere and do something, sometime is just too hard to answer. I live within that 500 miles, and I love going to the RU, and I love the DGers, and Dave is just the greatest, but I needed to know more to make a decision, so I didn't. Why couldn't a possible (probable?) scenario have been presented? I'll bet that if you took a vote today, you would get different answers. I also agree with Silverfluter. Plan the thing, take who comes, and then next year (or whenever) go from there. You have to start somewhere. That is what we did, and now, depending on which county is hosting our event and their space allowances, we often have to limit the number of registrations. That could easily have been your scenario too. Having regional Dave's parties is also a good idea. That's where you start, and then before you know it, you are going national. If that's what you want to do. But by that time, you will have your "history".
And trust me, planning these things takes a village...
For what it's worth...
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silverfluter
Fredericksburg, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 11, 2008
07:48 AM Post #4386541
| Well I read some really positive input this am. Glad to know the idea is only tabled. I've not ever been involved in organizing anything like this, but I'm glad somebody had the ambition, time, and guts to try. I think the ideas flying around are exciting possibilities. Every RU I've been to so far has been bigger and better that the one before and it's only logical that a convention will take place someday. It's just a big step to take from where we are right now.. It does take a lot of investment of somebody's time and money. If the company that owns DG now could read this (maybe they are) we could get some backing from them in the future. I'm sure Dave didn't know what his little seeding trading website would turn into, but look at it now. The convention will happen someday and be really awesome.
Thanks much to the committee for working so hard behind the scenes. It would be nice if we could keep collecting ideas for now and maybe have it in 2010. In the meantime I think it would helpful to work on ways to market DG better. Not that I know how to do that, but I know lots of others do. I can atleast put the bumper sticker on my car.:) |
debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 11, 2008
10:32 AM Post #4386918
| Like the way ya think silver!! :-)
Remember me if you guys ever need a volunteer here in North TX.. for a committee or any event. I have a pretty decent Butterfly Presentation and a really nice Sharp OH Projector that will cast a 20-30 ft. screen. Just give me as much notice as possible, and somewhere to plug in.
debnes |
starlight1153
Seale, AL
(Zone 8b)
January 13, 2008
06:30 AM Post #4394905
| Lou.. Mitch.. committee members. I would suggest that you don't give up on this idea. Don't spend every minute of your days on it, but keep working on this goal. Fine tune it. it not an undertaking that can be done set-up and fully orhanized in a afew weeks or month.
You got all those votes, think only 1% said they won't come. You have before you a list of those who wil come and an even bigger list of the If's. Now take those if's and put them into a workable design and plan. Then when just the committee has everything set and organized , put up a bigg banner with all the info, time place, where, attractions, events and such and then about 6-8 months before the eventual time start a banner about it.
Looking at what going on, I would plan a small convention for about 50 people. it's a place to start and now folks at least all know about it and can start saving and planning with the idea at least in the back of their heads. hey if more show up, don't worry about it, everybody wil just crowd a little bit closer together. we all gardener's , we all know what dirt and sweat smells like. LOL I raided my son's football piggy bank to start savign for it, cuz I feel this will come to fruitation.
Something, that you may or may not have realized, is that even just the postign of the idea has brought alot of together here at Daves' that hadn't even met. new friendships and conversations are flowing . Wasn't that part of the whole idea? Well ya got a beginning. You have opened a door to communication. The physical part will just take a bit more time is all.
Some said... Texas a friendly state. If somebody here having a RU why not , if ya feel like it and are capable, open your Ru to anybody that wants to come. You might find, ya have a lot of folks from different aras and different parts, ya haven't met that still wouldn't mind traveling and tradding plants, seeds, stories and some friendly hospitality.
This idea has brought forth alot of people from all areas. I myself see folks I didn't know yet that while far from me they not so far, that maybe when things do get organized that a bunch of us couldn't car pool or rent a small van and all pile in. I think others are realizing the same things.
Dave may have put a hold on the idea for the moment. I could be wrong in this , but i think some of it because of all the if's, so I ask that you keep working as your time allows and then when it all finished to be presented , then bring it backup. Once you all have the first format set, and hold it, then that work can be used to one either in the same place and watch it grow, and it will provide the foundation to do ones set up in other areas.
Everythign has to start someplace, you had an idea that now a grain of sand. Work now to take that grain of sand and tun it into a brick an let it be the corner foundation of a Dg national garden party.
Not sure who reading where so gonna put this on both threads.
Still hoping for a steak and listenign to the "compost Carolers". : )
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cat64129
(Cathy), MO
January 13, 2008
10:32 AM Post #4395308
| I'm with you starlight. Since all this started, I've talked to several in MO who never even saw the vote. I don't think it would be a problem to get several from this state alone, to carpool down.
Crossing my fingers and starting my piggy bank too!!! |
mommie
Weslaco, TX
(Zone 9b)
March 06, 2008
07:54 PM Post #4631183
| I would love to attend,but I can't afford it ! First,Iam a widow living on S/S. Second, My 9cats & a dog would have to be kenneled. Too much money! Sorry,I will have to decline. |
Connie_W
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)
March 06, 2008
08:19 PM Post #4631315
| Mommie...this is a "Dead" issue. |
snapple45
Holland, OH
(Zone 5b)
March 06, 2008
09:11 PM Post #4631520
| Please Connie, Couldn't we just say "tabled for now". I still have hope! ;>) |
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX
March 07, 2008
12:21 AM Post #4632361
| Poor Mommie, I feel ya! I work fulltime , get SS and two pensions and I still have a hard time with only two cats.
Yeah Connie, you are mean! LOL Abrupt and to the point! LMAO |
Connie_W
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)
March 07, 2008
10:48 PM Post #4636233
| Hey...I was just quoting Dave...I think he's the one who said that! :-) I was actually being sarcastic...kinda! :_)
I was pushing HARD for it!! |
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX
March 08, 2008
03:10 AM Post #4636927
| LOL Connie are you going to the CSRU in April? |
Connie_W
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)
March 12, 2008
11:21 PM Post #4657027
| No...I just got back from being in Santa Fe for 5 days. That's my "fling" for awhile...until school is out. Are you going? |
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX
March 13, 2008
08:09 AM Post #4657833
| I swear, I have no choice, but to go! lol |
ezgroonly
Fountaintown, IN
(Zone 5b)
March 26, 2008
03:16 PM Post #4712690
| Aw, come on Dave...500 measly miles, in a 3000 mile wide country, by I don't know how many miles north to south!
You could at least pick a central location like St. Louis, which has good interstate, air and rail access, AND the beautiful Missouri Botanical Garden...not to mention a world-class zoo, the Arch, and other attractions for family who don't have or want a green thumb.
Really, I think the 500 mile limit for Dave might be a deal breaker for a lot of us. |
snapple45
Holland, OH
(Zone 5b)
March 26, 2008
03:24 PM Post #4712736
| Now, St Loius I could do! Great suggestion. |
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)
April 02, 2008
08:17 PM Post #4748070
| I enjoy St Louis Botanical Garden. I go every chance I get. They have lectures and lessons also. I can't believe this post is still going!! |
Connie_W
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)
April 02, 2008
11:38 PM Post #4749126
| Birder...ditto! :-) Guys, I hate to disappoint you, but this idea is over and done with. We all got excited about it and then it didn't "make." Maybe in another 5 years? :-) |
trees4me
Staten Island, NY
(Zone 7a)
November 17, 2008
04:03 PM Post #5801921
| Love to come! Should we wear something to know each other?
I will wear a straw hat w/ ferns, flowers, birds..etc!!
Chuckle!!!!
What would anyone else design? A pin, corsage, hat, clothing?!?!
Let's hear!!!!!! = D
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debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
November 20, 2008
12:35 PM Post #5812403
| We would come. |
