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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 21, 2008 7:00 AM Post #4431951
| Starting vol. 3; vol. 2 was here: [HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]
What's this bird? Sorry it's so blurred, the light is awful here today, heavy overcast and rain so the exposure was very slow.
Resin
[PS I know the answer for this one, can anyone else get it?]
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pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 21, 2008 7:11 AM Post #4431959
| How about Sisken. |
dellrose Conway, MO (Zone 5b)
January 21, 2008 7:52 AM Post #4431988
| Goldfinch? |
GeorgiaJo Dallas, GA (Zone 7b)
January 21, 2008 7:57 AM Post #4431991
| I think it looks more like a goldfinch because the color bands are more distinct (even in a blurry picture) |
OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
January 21, 2008 9:04 AM Post #4432107
| Eurasian Siskin...Carduelis spinus?
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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 21, 2008 9:09 AM Post #4432116
| Yep, Siskin / Eurasian Siskin Carduelis spinus.
Resin
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debnes_dfw_tx Fort Worth, TX (Zone 8a)
January 21, 2008 9:15 AM Post #4432128
| I am leaning toward:
Lesser Goldfinch Carduelis psaltria
:)> |
debnes_dfw_tx Fort Worth, TX (Zone 8a)
January 21, 2008 9:17 AM Post #4432139
| Way to go Ned :)>
:-) |
indiana_lily Jeffersonville, IN (Zone 6b)
January 21, 2008 10:56 AM Post #4432464
| Thanks Debnes and Resin for identifying the cowbird! |
nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 21, 2008 12:41 PM Post #4433001
| Just got these pics of a new bird. I think it may be a Brown Creeper. The photos are not very good due to the sun.
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nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 21, 2008 12:41 PM Post #4433005
| #2
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heyitsmejudy Lawrenceville, GA
January 21, 2008 12:53 PM Post #4433051
| I've been having birds that look like these gobbling up mealworms. I couldn't decide if it was a goldfinch that hasn't "golded" up much or a warbler or a sisken. I can't imagine that finches eat mealworms but I didn't think a cardinal would until I saw if with my own eyes this past weekend. |
OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
January 21, 2008 2:29 PM Post #4433510
| Yep...Brown Creeper.
Creepers fly to the bottom of the tree and climb up
Nuthatches fly to the top and "climb" down |
pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 21, 2008 2:41 PM Post #4433558
| Oh good I got it. :-) |
ceejaytown The Woodlands, TX (Zone 9a)
January 21, 2008 3:29 PM Post #4433751
| We've been watching the chickadees make a feast of our mealworms. The American Goldfinches don't go near them. Saw several chickadees fly to the black sunflower seed, check it out, and then fly over to the mealworms and take them instead. Man, this is going to get expensive! We thought the brown-headed nuthatches were taking them... |
heyitsmejudy Lawrenceville, GA
January 21, 2008 3:42 PM Post #4433808
| Ceejay...
I got tired of paying $11 for 1,000 mealworms from a bird seed store and ordered bulk from an online source... Sunshine Mealworms... they give a 10 percent discount if you're feeding bluebirds... which I am, among other things... I got 5,000 ($16) and with priority shipping, etc., it was $26... I didn't see a dead one in the bunch, either. Very happy with them.. Tranferring them from the newspaper/bag packaging into a plastic box was a bit of a chore but I got the hang of it and it wasn't too gros. s
I know I wasn't really getting 1,000 worms from where I had been buying them, and I know there are way more than 5,000 that I got from Sunshine.
The chickadees, titmice, bluebirds, wrens, nuithatches and the aforementioned cardinals are loving the mealworms... as are whatever the yellow ones are... I think from the beak they're warblers. The cold weather this weekend made them even more grateful for the offering, I'm sure.
As a plus... I don't have to chase the squirrels away from thee mealworm dish!
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pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 21, 2008 3:46 PM Post #4433831
| Is it a hanging dish or just one on top of something Judy? |
heyitsmejudy Lawrenceville, GA
January 21, 2008 3:52 PM Post #4433858
| I have the blue saucer thing that attaches to a shephard hook... I'll post a pic when I can find one. I still put a few mealies in that... But now that I've realized the birds don't really care WHAT I put the mealworms in as long as I put mealworms OUT! And since I'd been getting so much interest in the mealworms in my yard and since it's been so cold, I started putting several mealies in a heavy dog dish and setting the dish on the patio table on my deck... it's a lot closer to my patio door so I can watch the birds up close... Any bowl with about a three inch side will work ... just high enough so the worms can't crawl out... My friend here at work uses a butter container but she weighs it down with a rock so it doesn't blow away.
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heyitsmejudy Lawrenceville, GA
January 21, 2008 3:56 PM Post #4433872
| Here's the mealworm feeder I'd originally used, Pelle..  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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PeeperKeeper Georgetown, TX (Zone 8a)
January 21, 2008 4:04 PM Post #4433908
| I've always bought my mealies from Grubco, but I've been buying them for my pet sugar gliders so I get the really big "Mighty Mealies". They are about twice as big as what they normally call "large" mealies (but they are not the "superworms"! Those are nasty, and they bite!). I'd have to check to see how they compare price-wise to what you got, but that does sound like a good deal for 6000.
I actually counted my mealies this time. I know it's silly, but I was curious and I was splitting them up into separate containers for the gliders and the birds so I figured, "why not?". Anyway, I had already fed probably 20 of them to the gliders before I counted, but I counted something like 1150 when I had ordered 1000. Better than 10% overage and that's not counting the 3 or 4 dead ones.
Grubco has always been good to the glider community, so I like to support them. When Katrina happened, they supplied free mealies for hundreds of rescued gliders. |
ceejaytown The Woodlands, TX (Zone 9a)
January 21, 2008 4:15 PM Post #4433938
| Oops - spoke too soon. Brown-headed nuthatch taking a mealworm.
Thanks, Judy!! That was timely. DH was just checking out order sites on the Internet, I gave him your info, and the mealworms should be on their way momentarily. Now we can put a few more mealworm feeders out. I like the dog bowl close up and personal idea. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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burn_2007 Grand-Falls, NB (Zone 4a)
January 21, 2008 10:24 PM Post #4435795
| This hawk came diving in for a bird ,and crashed in my patio door. Unfortunately, the poor bird didn't make it. I felt really bad, I tried to help him . I wanted to put him in a box, but when I approched it, it jump down the patio, and went too far underneath for me to reach him. I found him dead that night. I tried to ID him with the books I have here. They have 2 that looks like him for this area. Red-Shoulder Hawk and Broad-Winged Hawk. Is it one of them?  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
January 21, 2008 10:49 PM Post #4435972
| Looks like a Ruffed Grouse |
burn_2007 Grand-Falls, NB (Zone 4a)
January 21, 2008 11:16 PM Post #4436146
| Boys, was I way off. I thought grouse were more wood birds like partridge. And didn't think they'd come to feeders. I was in denial when I read your post,but upon looking up and zooming in for the face. Your right, the beak isn't that of a hawk at all. Thank for setting thing strait. |
PeeperKeeper Georgetown, TX (Zone 8a)
January 22, 2008 12:06 AM Post #4436326
| Here's a cute little guy (or gal) I saw at the garden center the other day. I had run for my camera when there was a "Dairy" woodpecker in this same tree (the one with white spots along the outer tail feathers?), but he was gone by the time I got back from the car.
Later I saw this one. I didn't realize how cute his face was until I looked at the pic on my computer screen zoomed in. A warbler? Click the image for an enlarged view.
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OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
January 22, 2008 6:19 AM Post #4437352
| "Dairy" Woodpecker is what ya call one that you don't see well enough to tell whether it's a D owny or a H airy Woodpecker.
The ones with the dots are Downys ...(Downys have Dots)
Don't know what the little guy in the pic is. |
PeeperKeeper Georgetown, TX (Zone 8a)
January 22, 2008 9:53 AM Post #4437805
| Okay, thanks ON. I knew "Dairy" meant not sure between Hairy and Downy. I couldn't remember which had the dots, but I remembered that was the relevant factor so made a mental note of whether s/he had them but hadn't looked up which one it was yet when I made the post.
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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 22, 2008 1:54 PM Post #4438774
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| Quoted: | | Later I saw this one. I didn't realize how cute his face was until I looked at the pic on my computer screen zoomed in. A warbler? |
I'd go for Orange-crowned Warbler
Resin
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creekwalker Cole Camp, MO
January 23, 2008 3:09 PM Post #4443489
| Anyone know what this bird is? I am drawing a blank but know it's some kind of Finch. I think. He looks cold!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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creekwalker Cole Camp, MO
January 23, 2008 3:12 PM Post #4443504
| Looking at this picture, would it be a Junco? It just seems to have a bit different coloring than the others.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 23, 2008 3:34 PM Post #4443587
| Hi CW, Its a female Dark-eyed Junco.
Pelle |
creekwalker Cole Camp, MO
January 23, 2008 5:25 PM Post #4444015
| Ahhh! Thanks Pelle! I thought she looked junco-ish lol! |
debnes_dfw_tx Fort Worth, TX (Zone 8a)
January 23, 2008 8:49 PM Post #4444824
| Definitely a Junco! My favorite sparrows! |
gardenpom Melbourne, FL (Zone 9b)
January 23, 2008 10:12 PM Post #4445265
| These look like ducks to me.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 24, 2008 7:12 AM Post #4446347
| Yep, ducks. The large bills suggest Northern Shoveler, but hard to be certain.
Resin
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gardenpom Melbourne, FL (Zone 9b)
January 24, 2008 7:50 AM Post #4446384
| Amazing you could even guess what type Duck, Ned...thanks. |
OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
January 24, 2008 8:36 AM Post #4446449
| Wasn't me...I would have thought they were flying to the left and guessed Gull-winged Owls
or Fork-headed Boobies
Gonna go with resin on this one-Northern Shovelers.
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dellrose Conway, MO (Zone 5b)
January 24, 2008 9:24 AM Post #4446550
| I know...bad pic! This was a good sized hawk of some kind!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 24, 2008 9:49 AM Post #4446601
| Probably Red-tailed Hawk
Resin
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dellrose Conway, MO (Zone 5b)
January 24, 2008 1:28 PM Post #4447638
| Thanks Resin...I will keep my eyes peeled and try and get a better picture! |
adelbertcat Klamath River, CA
January 24, 2008 4:37 PM Post #4448398
| Taken at a tidal flat in Humboldt Bay. Very small birds (smaller than Kildeer) in small flocks.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 24, 2008 5:29 PM Post #4448624
| Least Sandpiper
Resin
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adelbertcat Klamath River, CA
January 24, 2008 6:28 PM Post #4448889
| Thanks resin |
gardenpom Melbourne, FL (Zone 9b)
January 25, 2008 7:56 AM Post #4451417
| I'm always confusing you bird experts, sorry. Thanks RESIN!!! I made the mistake once of forgetting what direction a bird was flying and it looked like a duck, actually was a Hawk...these were flying to the right.
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ceejaytown The Woodlands, TX (Zone 9a)
January 25, 2008 8:25 PM Post #4454218
| I loved OldNed's IDs. ROTFLMBO!!!! |
gardenpom Melbourne, FL (Zone 9b)
January 25, 2008 9:08 PM Post #4454384
| Here's one for the experts. At the time I was taking the picture I was thinking Robin, but not as sure now.
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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 25, 2008 10:00 PM Post #4454601
| American Robin
Resin
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dellrose Conway, MO (Zone 5b)
January 25, 2008 10:44 PM Post #4454814
| Can you tell what kind of WoodPecker this is? Sorry I cropped from a long shot.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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gardenpom Melbourne, FL (Zone 9b)
January 26, 2008 7:24 AM Post #4455728
| Thanks, Resin...I was hoping my first impression was right. They were moving pretty fast. |
Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 26, 2008 7:29 AM Post #4455734
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| Quoted: | | Can you tell what kind of Woodpecker this is? |
Yellow-bellied Sapsucker
Resin
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dellrose Conway, MO (Zone 5b)
January 26, 2008 8:52 AM Post #4455822
| Oh thank you Resin! This is another first for me..I didn't even know it was there til I blew the pic up! Hope I can find him now and get a "real" pic! You are amazing Resin!
Rose |
Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 26, 2008 9:15 AM Post #4455864
| Not too difficult - the white crescent on the inner part of the wing shows it is a sapsucker, and Yellow-bellied is the only one that occurs in MO.
Resin
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dellrose Conway, MO (Zone 5b)
January 26, 2008 9:42 AM Post #4455921
| You are a good teacher Resin and I think you!
Rose |
JulieQ Cullman, AL (Zone 7b)
January 26, 2008 3:42 PM Post #4457334
| Catbird? Belongs to the neighbor...he was actually eating the bird seed...  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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bsharf Palm Coast, FL (Zone 9a)
January 26, 2008 4:21 PM Post #4457460
| How about this bird at Merritt Isl NWR, FL. Unfortunately I didn't get a good look at the legs.
Could it be a Yellowlegs, Greater or Lesser? Sorry the photo is so bad. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 26, 2008 4:25 PM Post #4457475
| Greater Yellowlegs - note the stout, very slightly upturned bill with a pale base. On Lesser, the bill is slender, all dark, and straight.
Resin
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bsharf Palm Coast, FL (Zone 9a)
January 26, 2008 4:25 PM Post #4457476
| Another view of the same bird. I see a hint of something yellow (perhaps legs) under the bird. Am I reading something into the photo that isn't really there?  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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ceejaytown The Woodlands, TX (Zone 9a)
January 26, 2008 5:08 PM Post #4457610
| Great photo of a catbird!! I always thought they were grayer... |
adelbertcat Klamath River, CA
January 26, 2008 5:52 PM Post #4457751
| Is the bill on that Yellowlegs two toned, or is that just an illusion? |
Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 26, 2008 6:06 PM Post #4457799
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| Quoted: | | Is the bill on that Yellowlegs two toned, or is that just an illusion? |
Yes, it is two-toned; that's one of the features which shows it is Greater Y'legs, not Lesser. Lesser has an all-black bill.
Resin
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bsharf Palm Coast, FL (Zone 9a)
January 26, 2008 6:10 PM Post #4457808
| It looks as if the bill is darker at the end. The drawings, in the bird books, don't show that.
Thanks Resin for the ID.
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OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
January 26, 2008 6:28 PM Post #4457879
| Another method to tell Greater from Lesser (if bill color/shape are difficult to see).
Note that your Greater Yellowlegs's bill is longer than the distance between base-of-bill and back-of-head.
This is often easier to observe in bad lighting or at a distance. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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bsharf Palm Coast, FL (Zone 9a)
January 26, 2008 6:50 PM Post #4457961
| That's easy to remember! Old Ned, I guess you are at the Space Coast Birding Festival this weekend. |
GrannyGrunt Mount Pleasant Mills, PA (Zone 5a)
January 26, 2008 6:58 PM Post #4457996
| The one on the right looks like a Downy. The one in the center is a House Finch. What is the bird on the left side of the picture?
Thanks,
GG Click the image for an enlarged view.
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nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 26, 2008 7:13 PM Post #4458052
| White Breasted Nuthatch, GG. |
GrannyGrunt Mount Pleasant Mills, PA (Zone 5a)
January 26, 2008 7:28 PM Post #4458117
| Thanks Nanny.
Could one of you folks be so kind as to tell me how to tell a downy from a hairy from a red breasted woodpecker?
I think I am looking at the correct photo in my bird ID books and then I mess it up anyway. Sorry to say, this NEWBIE needs a ton of "learning" when it comes to which is what!!
GG |
pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 26, 2008 7:33 PM Post #4458137
| Do you mean from a red-bellied? |
indiana_lily Jeffersonville, IN (Zone 6b)
January 26, 2008 7:34 PM Post #4458143
| Ok ... Here's a Red Bellied Woodpecker...
edited for blonde moment typo
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GrannyGrunt Mount Pleasant Mills, PA (Zone 5a)
January 26, 2008 7:34 PM Post #4458146
| Yep! See, I can't even get the names straight to ask a question! Jeepers!
Sorry Pelletory.
GG |
indiana_lily Jeffersonville, IN (Zone 6b)
January 26, 2008 7:36 PM Post #4458149
| The Red Breasted Woodpecker in my picture is a male, by the way.
Here is a female Downy...
I haven't seen a Hairy yet, but they look much like the Downy except they are larger and have longer bills.
Hope that helps! Click the image for an enlarged view.
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pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 26, 2008 7:38 PM Post #4458156
| Thats a Red-bellied. :-) |
GrannyGrunt Mount Pleasant Mills, PA (Zone 5a)
January 26, 2008 7:39 PM Post #4458159
| Thanks indiana lily. I copied that to my ID file I have started on my computer. Sorry I misspoke when I said red breasted, I should have said red bellied. Thanks for knowing I was just being stupid.
I eventually will catch on to this! Or drive everyone batty trying!
GG
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indiana_lily Jeffersonville, IN (Zone 6b)
January 26, 2008 7:39 PM Post #4458160
| duh!! thanks for that typo catch!! I'll go edit right now... |
pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 26, 2008 7:40 PM Post #4458164
| The Hairy Woodpeckers also have pure white outer tail feathers while the Downys have some black spots on them. |
GrannyGrunt Mount Pleasant Mills, PA (Zone 5a)
January 26, 2008 7:41 PM Post #4458171
| It surely does indiana lily. What pelletory said, red breasted.
Thanks
GG |
GrannyGrunt Mount Pleasant Mills, PA (Zone 5a)
January 26, 2008 7:45 PM Post #4458193
| I noted that in my ID book, also.
Thanks pelletory.
Now, I will just sit back, enjoy the pictures, learn, and stop bothering you folks for a bit.
GG |
pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 26, 2008 7:48 PM Post #4458208
| Your not bothering anyone GG! :-) |
GrannyGrunt Mount Pleasant Mills, PA (Zone 5a)
January 26, 2008 7:49 PM Post #4458215
| Thanks pelletory. You folks are wonderful.
GG |
dellrose Conway, MO (Zone 5b)
January 26, 2008 9:07 PM Post #4458528
| Haven't a clue what this is!
Thanks,
Rose Click the image for an enlarged view.
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gardenpom Melbourne, FL (Zone 9b)
January 26, 2008 9:24 PM Post #4458579
| Some type of Hawk...I'm sure one of the experts will be able to tell you which one. |
adelbertcat Klamath River, CA
January 27, 2008 12:15 AM Post #4459131
| Looks like a Red-tailed Hawk to me. |
Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 27, 2008 6:37 AM Post #4459653
| Yep, Red-tailed Hawk
Resin
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dellrose Conway, MO (Zone 5b)
January 27, 2008 8:26 AM Post #4459702
| Thanks Adel and Resin...that's the second bad shot I've gotten! Hopefully the third time will be the charm!
Rose |
nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 27, 2008 10:15 AM Post #4459921
| I'm not sure which this is my self?? Think it is a Hairy...
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nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 27, 2008 10:17 AM Post #4459927
| Hairy Woodpecker- it is larger and the beak much longer. I had a hard time to and am just getting it myself! Sort of...
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nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 27, 2008 10:25 AM Post #4459944
| Here GG found the pics I wanted.
Downy
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nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 27, 2008 10:26 AM Post #4459948
| Hairy WP
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creekwalker Cole Camp, MO
January 27, 2008 1:18 PM Post #4460543
| Ok, I am still a little confused about IDing a Downy Woodpecker from a Hairy Woodpecker. I know Downy's are smaller, but that's hard to tell unless you can see them side by side.
Someone said Downy's have "dots". But where? Both seem to have dots to me. I am also wondering about the red patch on some of them. Some have it and some don't. Is it a male/female thing?
Hairy's have longer bills, but that's another one that is hard to tell unless they are side by side. Which one would this one be? Click the image for an enlarged view.
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creekwalker Cole Camp, MO
January 27, 2008 1:21 PM Post #4460547
| Here's one without the red patch  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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creekwalker Cole Camp, MO
January 27, 2008 1:25 PM Post #4460560
| One more. What would they be and how about the red patch? And, does Missouri have both Downy's and Hairy's? I'm so confused!
lol
Edited for stupid spelling! :p
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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 27, 2008 2:37 PM Post #4460788
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| Quoted: | | I am also wondering about the red patch on some of them. Some have it and some don't. Is it a male/female thing? |
Yes, red = male, no red = female
| Quoted: | | Which one would this one be? |
Downy. Another useful point, visible here:
Outermost white feather on tail with black spot(s) = Downy
Outermost white feather on tail pure white with NO black spots = Hairy
Missouri has both, though generally, Downy is commoner than Hairy.
Resin
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creekwalker Cole Camp, MO
January 27, 2008 8:03 PM Post #4462140
| Thanks Resin! |
OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
January 28, 2008 12:15 AM Post #4463380
| Just as with the Greater vs. Lesser Yellowlegs above, relative bill length is another way to differentiate between Downy and Hairy Woodpeckers.
Here's nanny's Downy. Note that the bill length, tip to base, is shorter by far than the distance from bill base to back of head.
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OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
January 28, 2008 12:15 AM Post #4463385
| ...While the distance from bill tip to base in nanny's Hairy Woodpecker is about the same as bill base to back of head.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
January 28, 2008 1:02 AM Post #4463577
| As Resin and others have said on this Forum, bird size is often very difficult to assess in the field...especially without a good point of reference...seeing another bird or object of known size nearby etc..
If you don't get a look at the outer tail feathers and/or if the Woodpecker has no close reference point, try comparing length of bill to head size (not just trying to decide if it has a short or a long bill.)
Edit (kan't spel)
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ceejaytown The Woodlands, TX (Zone 9a)
January 28, 2008 1:22 AM Post #4463640
| It also seems to me that the hairy wp has the broad straight line through its eye, while the downy's line is not straight - it broadens in the middle.
BTW, I was looking at a birder's photos today, taken over the weekend, and I recognized the Ruby-crowned Kinglet with no crown showing. I learned that here! |
pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 28, 2008 5:43 AM Post #4463911
| Very good! |
debnes_dfw_tx Fort Worth, TX (Zone 8a)
January 28, 2008 8:59 AM Post #4464067
| Oh yeah CJ,
You should be seeing RC Kinglet down there quite a bit. I sure hope you can get some pics :-) |
seemama Kissimmee, FL (Zone 9b)
January 28, 2008 10:31 AM Post #4464336
| Hi everyone, got a bit sick so have not been following events. Everytime we have a cold spell coming we seem to have thousands of swifts, they come to a vacant site behind my house, and there are so many that there are not enough trees to take them, then they move over the road to another double vacant lot, the sky looks so full of them there must be thousands,just flying around then landing flying around some more before they move on. I only see them when we are expecting a cold spell -so it's not very often. Resin I never saw this kind of thing in UK (London area), it's only since I have lived in Florida (3 1/2 Years) we used to get them in the evenings over there, but not to this extent. |
heyitsmejudy Lawrenceville, GA
January 28, 2008 11:51 AM Post #4464675
| I'm hoping one of you can help me, even without a picture.
I've had a woodpecker on my suet feeder often this past week and weekend... It's about 6 inches long, dark bill... same coloring as a downy or hairy BUT it has red on its head and under its chin. It also has a white stripe all around its skull. It's NOT a red-bellied woodpecker. It has black and white on its back and it looks kind of dirty for lack of better word.. in other words, not just solid B&W.
It almost looks like a sapsucker... but it's eating suet.
Could it be a baby pileated? |
OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
January 28, 2008 1:46 PM Post #4465254
| Sapsuckers readily come to suet feeders.
A juvenile could probably appear dirty...chest and belly are a sandy color.
Flight-capable Pileated would be 16 inches long. |
creekwalker Cole Camp, MO
January 28, 2008 1:52 PM Post #4465291
| Thanks Ned. That explanation about the bill size helps a lot. I wasn't sure just how much longer a Hairy's bill was than a Downy's so that cleared up a lot. |
heyitsmejudy Lawrenceville, GA
January 28, 2008 1:53 PM Post #4465292
| Hmmmmmm. Well, then maybe that's what it is because that's the closest to matching what I have as I can get. I'll go with that. Won't lie... had my heart set on it being a pileated back in my yard.. but I'll stay on that task.
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GrannyGrunt Mount Pleasant Mills, PA (Zone 5a)
January 28, 2008 2:10 PM Post #4465362
| Thanks to all of you folks for the information on the Downy vs. Hairy Woodpeckers. This morning there was a woodpecker at the suet that is different from any I have seen before. Unfortunately, it was too cloudy to get a really good picture. But, better days are coming.
Thanks again.
GG |
OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
January 28, 2008 2:16 PM Post #4465386
| Glad to help gw. In nanny's pic of the Downy, its head is squinched down which exaggerates the bill/head thing but it would still be obvious even in an unsquinched head. The squinching in the photo is probably obvious to everybody but I just wanted to say squinch lots of times in a posting.
OldSquinch |
original_sybil Brainerd, MN
January 28, 2008 2:57 PM Post #4465539
| Who is this with the red patch on the top of the head?  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 28, 2008 3:04 PM Post #4465563
| Common Redpoll
Resin
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nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 28, 2008 3:54 PM Post #4465754
| LOL, OldNed!!!
Downy Woodpecker & Red Breasted Nuthatch
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nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 28, 2008 3:56 PM Post #4465761
| This for indiana_lily. This one has 2 Red Breasted Nuthatches in it!
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nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 28, 2008 3:57 PM Post #4465768
| Well dang I'm on the wrong one again!! lol
I'll just go over to the Daily Pics now... |
original_sybil Brainerd, MN
January 28, 2008 8:38 PM Post #4466729
| Another new bird for me! Thanks Resin for the id. |
original_sybil Brainerd, MN
January 28, 2008 8:40 PM Post #4466743
| From Dec. 4 StarTribune:
See them in winter
Winter is the only time we're likely to see hoary redpolls in Minnesota. The birds sometimes drift down from breeding grounds that stretch from Alaska into Canada's high Arctic country.
At feeders
Their cousins, common redpolls, are more likely to visit feeders. (Thistle seed is a good lure.) Commons are expected to be more numerous this winter. They're among the finch species predicted to move south of their usual range because of thin seed crops in northern birches and conifers.
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burn_2007 Grand-Falls, NB (Zone 4a)
January 29, 2008 12:50 PM Post #4469393
| I'm looking for siskens in these pictures, they're from PEI, my sister thinks she see one, near the Goldfinch. I only see Redpolls and Gold finches.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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burn_2007 Grand-Falls, NB (Zone 4a)
January 29, 2008 12:51 PM Post #4469397
| And this one  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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burn_2007 Grand-Falls, NB (Zone 4a)
January 29, 2008 12:52 PM Post #4469403
| or this one  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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burn_2007 Grand-Falls, NB (Zone 4a)
January 29, 2008 12:54 PM Post #4469420
| And would you agree with me that the birds in the middle is a Hoary redpoll, all puffed up and white.
If so, are they rare sighting for PEI also?
This message was edited Jan 29, 2008 12:57 PM Click the image for an enlarged view.
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pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 29, 2008 1:09 PM Post #4469504
| That last one does look like a Hoary Redpoll. |
Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 29, 2008 2:10 PM Post #4469785
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| Quoted: | | I'm looking for siskens in these pictures, they're from PEI, my sister thinks she see one, near the Goldfinch. I only see Redpolls and Gold finches. |
Siskin ;-)
Yep, there's a Pine Siskin in the pics; half way up the far right edge in pic 1, lower far right in pic 2, and the centre bird in pic 3. Note the yellow base to the tail, just visible, and hint of greenish-yellow in the face, which Redpolls don't have.
Pics 1 and 2 also have a very probable Arctic Redpoll, the second from the left, tho' not 100% certain. And yep, that's one in pic 4 too.
Resin
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jo11 Saint Paul, MN
January 29, 2008 11:59 PM Post #4472180
| Okay, I am confused. Is the one picture from Original Sybil a Common Redpoll or a Hoary Redpoll? |
burn_2007 Grand-Falls, NB (Zone 4a)
January 30, 2008 12:23 AM Post #4472247
| Thank Pelle and Resin. The Sisken, is harder for me, If I look in the book I see this yellow, but on the pic I have a hard time to see it. Really need a good trained Eye for this. I'll come back tomorrow to look again and study it.
Jo11, what I've learn about the Hoary here, They are bigger, whiter underneath, and wider rump, less pronounce streaks on the side of the bird, and if I'm wrong, Resin will fine tune it, for us I hope. |
pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 30, 2008 5:47 AM Post #4472527
| Jo, sybils is a Common Redpoll. :-) |
Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 30, 2008 7:03 AM Post #4472573
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| Quoted: | | The Sisken, is harder for me, If I look in the book I see this yellow, but on the pic I have a hard time to see it |
Not too easy with these pics, I'll agree. Doesn't help that each time the bird had its head turned slightly away from the camera; with a clearer side shot, the longer, greyer (not yellowish) bill, and lack of a black chin patch, would be more obvious.
Resin
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JulieQ Cullman, AL (Zone 7b)
January 30, 2008 11:38 AM Post #4473490
| Who am I ? Gray crown, black throat ...Sorry it is in the shade and through a window...  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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JulieQ Cullman, AL (Zone 7b)
January 30, 2008 11:42 AM Post #4473505
| Never mind, I found it.. male house sparrow. He was on a different page from the other sparrows in my book. lol
Here he is again, with a couple of friends. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 30, 2008 11:42 AM Post #4473506
| House Sparrow, male.
Resin
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gardenpom Melbourne, FL (Zone 9b)
January 30, 2008 12:37 PM Post #4473760
| This one was on a light pole on the street behind my yard...I think it's an immature White Ibis.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 30, 2008 3:01 PM Post #4474288
| Yep, correct.
Resin
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gardenpom Melbourne, FL (Zone 9b)
January 30, 2008 4:01 PM Post #4474507
| Hard to tell Resin, but I think this one is actually a Royal Grackle :)  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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pelletory Marlton, NJ
January 30, 2008 4:07 PM Post #4474531
| LOL! |
nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 30, 2008 4:17 PM Post #4474590
| GP, ROTFLOL!! |
ceejaytown The Woodlands, TX (Zone 9a)
January 30, 2008 5:19 PM Post #4474835
| Oh, that is too funny!!! Good one.
JulieQ - It's not listed with the other sparrows, because the native sparrows are in a different family. The House (or English) Sparrow is an import and is in the Weaver Finch family (Passeridae) and the native sparrows are not. The House Sparrow and the Eurasian Tree Sparrow are the only two weaver finches we have in the US, both imported. |
Resin Northumberland
(United Kingdom) (Zone 9a)
January 30, 2008 5:27 PM Post #4474875
| Hi Ceejay - not quite:
House Sparrow is in the sparrow family Passeridae
The American "sparrows" are actually buntings (Emberizidae), not sparrows at all.
The weavers are in a third family, Ploceidae; some older books list them in the same family as sparrows but they are so distinct that they are now treated separately.
Resin
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JulieQ Cullman, AL (Zone 7b)
January 30, 2008 6:20 PM Post #4475105
| Interesting! I still have a lot to learn. |
ceejaytown The Woodlands, TX (Zone 9a)
January 31, 2008 2:29 AM Post #4477182
| (The National Audubon Society's) The Sibley's Guide to Birds lists American Sparrows and their allies - the Emberizine Buntings, Emberizine Sparrows, Towhees, Juncos, Longspurs - in the family Emberizidae, and the Old World Sparrows, (including the House Sparrow) are classified as Passeridae.
The House Sparrows are referred to as Weaver Finches in Audubon's' Field Guide to N Amercian Birds (yes, Ploceidae there), while the American Sparrows are placed in the Fringillidae family, along with Grosbeaks, Buntings, Finches. The Warblers are in Parulidae.
If that isn't bad enough, National Geographic Society's Field Guide to the Birds of N America puts our Sparrows in Emberizidae and throws Warblers and some others, including Cardinals, into the mix. Here the House Sparrow is put in the Passeridae family and is referred to as a Weaver.
I'd say that is quite confusing!!! And I am indeed confused. |
nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 31, 2008 8:04 AM Post #4477472
| Well, yeah!!
What the heck, if the experts don't know how are WE to know?? |
nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
January 31, 2008 12:49 PM Post #4478555
| I took the liberty of starting vol. 4 here [HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]
Hope that's okay |
debnes_dfw_tx Fort Worth, TX (Zone 8a)
February 3, 2008 10:58 AM Post #4489829
| Going to be working at the Fort Worth Botanical Garden Conservatory as a volunteer in March. While there yesterday there was a bird up in the rafters... It is not a native,.. Just wanted to see what it is, so I got a couple pics, (poor pics) but between him hiding and the misters in there it wasn't easy to get them, lol..
John ,(the director) said the bird was from Africa
Is this a Superb Starling (S. superbus or L. superbus)  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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debnes_dfw_tx Fort Worth, TX (Zone 8a)
February 3, 2008 11:00 AM Post #4489833
| Another  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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debnes_dfw_tx Fort Worth, TX (Zone 8a)
February 3, 2008 11:01 AM Post #4489836
| Last one...
Thanks! Click the image for an enlarged view.
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original_sybil Brainerd, MN
February 3, 2008 12:25 PM Post #4490181
| I don't know what it is but I am curious! |
OldNed Merritt Island, FL (Zone 10a)
February 3, 2008 1:37 PM Post #4490471
| What a great Botanic Garden!
Last time I was at the Fort Worth Botanical Garden, there were several of those guys inside of the tropical exhibit flying freely all around. Nobody I talked to there knew why they were in the greenhouse or how they got there.
Oh...the bird is a Superb Starling from East Africa. |
debnes_dfw_tx Fort Worth, TX (Zone 8a)
February 3, 2008 2:17 PM Post #4490575
| Thanks Ned!! I think they imported them to help with insects. They will have to be taken out once the butterflies fill the Conservatory.. Then put back after the exhibition is over to clean up. Kinda like what goes on here all winter after 20 native species have used my garden to breed. I posted more here: [HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]
:^) |
KdeeinNC Fuquay Varina, NC
February 10, 2008 10:00 AM Post #4519143
| My first time ever on a forum. I do not have a picture of my little bird but thought perhaps with the slight description I have you could point me in the right direction. This small bird is green colored and slightly larger than a finch. It has two definite white wing-bars on its wings and its wings seem dark brown or black. The green is on it's head and chest. Unfortunately that's about all I was able to identify. I sat down yesterday afternoon with my binoculars and a digital camera but when he/she landed, I couldn't get a good look and no picture. I'm in NC (zone 7b) and Wildbird suggested it might be a ruby crowned kinglet but it doesn't really look like the pics in my birdbook - not green enough and not the right look with the wingbars. As for other birds around my feeders, I have Juncos, house finch and purple finch, an occasional bluebird, Carolina Chickadee, etc. Oh yes, it loves the flat feeder and ate some bread crumbs I threw in it just to see what they might attract. I have black-oiled sunflower seed and the Special Feeder with nuts. If you have any ideas, I can look them up and will try again this afternoon to get a better look. |
pelletory Marlton, NJ
February 10, 2008 10:09 AM Post #4519167
| Welcome to the Bird Watching forum at Daves Kdee!
I'll let Resin or someone else talk about the bird you've seen. :-)
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nanny_56 Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b)
February 10, 2008 10:50 AM Post #4519281
| Another House Sparrow, I suppose??
 Click the image for an enlarged view.
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pelletory Marlton, NJ
February 10, 2008 10:56 AM Post #4519307
| BTW, just for the future, this is the Old Thread.
Heres the New One:
[HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com] |
MackenzieWilson Loch Lomond
(United Kingdom)
April 13, 2008 4:11 AM Post #4800834
| Hi,
It is a male Siskin. We are over run with them this year. |
pelletory Marlton, NJ
April 13, 2008 6:45 AM Post #4800917
| Hi This is a very old thread; heres the
current volumn of Identify This Bird:
[HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com] |