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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 21, 2008
11:00 AM

Post #4431951

Starting vol. 3; vol. 2 was here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/803566/

What's this bird? Sorry it's so blurred, the light is awful here today, heavy overcast and rain so the exposure was very slow.

Resin

[PS I know the answer for this one, can anyone else get it?]

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pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 21, 2008
11:11 AM

Post #4431959

How about Sisken.
dellrose
The Ozarks, MO
(Zone 5b)

January 21, 2008
11:52 AM

Post #4431988

Goldfinch?
GeorgiaJo
Dallas, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 21, 2008
11:57 AM

Post #4431991

I think it looks more like a goldfinch because the color bands are more distinct (even in a blurry picture)

OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

January 21, 2008
1:04 PM

Post #4432107

Eurasian Siskin...Carduelis spinus?

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 21, 2008
1:09 PM

Post #4432116

Yep, Siskin / Eurasian Siskin Carduelis spinus.

Resin
debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 21, 2008
1:15 PM

Post #4432128

I am leaning toward:
Lesser Goldfinch Carduelis psaltria

:)>
debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 21, 2008
1:17 PM

Post #4432139

Way to go Ned :)>

:-)
indiana_lily
Jeffersonville, IN
(Zone 6b)

January 21, 2008
2:56 PM

Post #4432464

Thanks Debnes and Resin for identifying the cowbird!

nanny_56

nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 21, 2008
4:41 PM

Post #4433001

Just got these pics of a new bird. I think it may be a Brown Creeper. The photos are not very good due to the sun.

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nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 21, 2008
4:41 PM

Post #4433005

#2

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heyitsmejudy
Lawrenceville, GA

January 21, 2008
4:53 PM

Post #4433051

I've been having birds that look like these gobbling up mealworms. I couldn't decide if it was a goldfinch that hasn't "golded" up much or a warbler or a sisken. I can't imagine that finches eat mealworms but I didn't think a cardinal would until I saw if with my own eyes this past weekend.

OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

January 21, 2008
6:29 PM

Post #4433510

Yep...Brown Creeper.

Creepers fly to the bottom of the tree and climb up
Nuthatches fly to the top and "climb" down
pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 21, 2008
6:41 PM

Post #4433558

Oh good I got it. :-)
ceejaytown
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 21, 2008
7:29 PM

Post #4433751

We've been watching the chickadees make a feast of our mealworms. The American Goldfinches don't go near them. Saw several chickadees fly to the black sunflower seed, check it out, and then fly over to the mealworms and take them instead. Man, this is going to get expensive! We thought the brown-headed nuthatches were taking them...
heyitsmejudy
Lawrenceville, GA

January 21, 2008
7:42 PM

Post #4433808

Ceejay...
I got tired of paying $11 for 1,000 mealworms from a bird seed store and ordered bulk from an online source... Sunshine Mealworms... they give a 10 percent discount if you're feeding bluebirds... which I am, among other things... I got 5,000 ($16) and with priority shipping, etc., it was $26... I didn't see a dead one in the bunch, either. Very happy with them.. Tranferring them from the newspaper/bag packaging into a plastic box was a bit of a chore but I got the hang of it and it wasn't too gros. s
I know I wasn't really getting 1,000 worms from where I had been buying them, and I know there are way more than 5,000 that I got from Sunshine.
The chickadees, titmice, bluebirds, wrens, nuithatches and the aforementioned cardinals are loving the mealworms... as are whatever the yellow ones are... I think from the beak they're warblers. The cold weather this weekend made them even more grateful for the offering, I'm sure.
As a plus... I don't have to chase the squirrels away from thee mealworm dish!

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pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 21, 2008
7:46 PM

Post #4433831

Is it a hanging dish or just one on top of something Judy?
heyitsmejudy
Lawrenceville, GA

January 21, 2008
7:52 PM

Post #4433858

I have the blue saucer thing that attaches to a shephard hook... I'll post a pic when I can find one. I still put a few mealies in that... But now that I've realized the birds don't really care WHAT I put the mealworms in as long as I put mealworms OUT! And since I'd been getting so much interest in the mealworms in my yard and since it's been so cold, I started putting several mealies in a heavy dog dish and setting the dish on the patio table on my deck... it's a lot closer to my patio door so I can watch the birds up close... Any bowl with about a three inch side will work ... just high enough so the worms can't crawl out... My friend here at work uses a butter container but she weighs it down with a rock so it doesn't blow away.

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heyitsmejudy
Lawrenceville, GA

January 21, 2008
7:56 PM

Post #4433872

Here's the mealworm feeder I'd originally used, Pelle..

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PeeperKeeper
Georgetown, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 21, 2008
8:04 PM

Post #4433908

I've always bought my mealies from Grubco, but I've been buying them for my pet sugar gliders so I get the really big "Mighty Mealies". They are about twice as big as what they normally call "large" mealies (but they are not the "superworms"! Those are nasty, and they bite!). I'd have to check to see how they compare price-wise to what you got, but that does sound like a good deal for 6000.

I actually counted my mealies this time. I know it's silly, but I was curious and I was splitting them up into separate containers for the gliders and the birds so I figured, "why not?". Anyway, I had already fed probably 20 of them to the gliders before I counted, but I counted something like 1150 when I had ordered 1000. Better than 10% overage and that's not counting the 3 or 4 dead ones.

Grubco has always been good to the glider community, so I like to support them. When Katrina happened, they supplied free mealies for hundreds of rescued gliders.
ceejaytown
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 21, 2008
8:15 PM

Post #4433938

Oops - spoke too soon. Brown-headed nuthatch taking a mealworm.

Thanks, Judy!! That was timely. DH was just checking out order sites on the Internet, I gave him your info, and the mealworms should be on their way momentarily. Now we can put a few more mealworm feeders out. I like the dog bowl close up and personal idea.

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burn_2007
Grand-Falls, NB
(Zone 4a)

January 22, 2008
2:24 AM

Post #4435795

This hawk came diving in for a bird ,and crashed in my patio door. Unfortunately, the poor bird didn't make it. I felt really bad, I tried to help him . I wanted to put him in a box, but when I approched it, it jump down the patio, and went too far underneath for me to reach him. I found him dead that night. I tried to ID him with the books I have here. They have 2 that looks like him for this area. Red-Shoulder Hawk and Broad-Winged Hawk. Is it one of them?

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OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

January 22, 2008
2:49 AM

Post #4435972

Looks like a Ruffed Grouse
burn_2007
Grand-Falls, NB
(Zone 4a)

January 22, 2008
3:16 AM

Post #4436146

Boys, was I way off. I thought grouse were more wood birds like partridge. And didn't think they'd come to feeders. I was in denial when I read your post,but upon looking up and zooming in for the face. Your right, the beak isn't that of a hawk at all. Thank for setting thing strait.
PeeperKeeper
Georgetown, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 22, 2008
4:06 AM

Post #4436326

Here's a cute little guy (or gal) I saw at the garden center the other day. I had run for my camera when there was a "Dairy" woodpecker in this same tree (the one with white spots along the outer tail feathers?), but he was gone by the time I got back from the car.

Later I saw this one. I didn't realize how cute his face was until I looked at the pic on my computer screen zoomed in. A warbler?

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OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

January 22, 2008
10:19 AM

Post #4437352

"Dairy" Woodpecker is what ya call one that you don't see well enough to tell whether it's a D owny or a H airy Woodpecker.

The ones with the dots are Downys ...(Downys have Dots)

Don't know what the little guy in the pic is.
PeeperKeeper
Georgetown, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 22, 2008
1:53 PM

Post #4437805

Okay, thanks ON. I knew "Dairy" meant not sure between Hairy and Downy. I couldn't remember which had the dots, but I remembered that was the relevant factor so made a mental note of whether s/he had them but hadn't looked up which one it was yet when I made the post.


Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 22, 2008
5:54 PM

Post #4438774

Quoting:Later I saw this one. I didn't realize how cute his face was until I looked at the pic on my computer screen zoomed in. A warbler?

I'd go for Orange-crowned Warbler

Resin
creekwalker
Benton County, MO
(Zone 5a)

January 23, 2008
7:09 PM

Post #4443489

Anyone know what this bird is? I am drawing a blank but know it's some kind of Finch. I think. He looks cold!

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creekwalker
Benton County, MO
(Zone 5a)

January 23, 2008
7:12 PM

Post #4443504

Looking at this picture, would it be a Junco? It just seems to have a bit different coloring than the others.

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pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 23, 2008
7:34 PM

Post #4443587

Hi CW, Its a female Dark-eyed Junco.

Pelle
creekwalker
Benton County, MO
(Zone 5a)

January 23, 2008
9:25 PM

Post #4444015

Ahhh! Thanks Pelle! I thought she looked junco-ish lol!
debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 24, 2008
12:49 AM

Post #4444824

Definitely a Junco! My favorite sparrows!
gardenpom
Melbourne, FL

January 24, 2008
2:12 AM

Post #4445265

These look like ducks to me.

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 24, 2008
11:12 AM

Post #4446347

Yep, ducks. The large bills suggest Northern Shoveler, but hard to be certain.

Resin
gardenpom
Melbourne, FL

January 24, 2008
11:50 AM

Post #4446384

Amazing you could even guess what type Duck, Ned...thanks.

OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

January 24, 2008
12:36 PM

Post #4446449

Wasn't me...I would have thought they were flying to the left and guessed Gull-winged Owls
or Fork-headed Boobies

Gonna go with resin on this one-Northern Shovelers.

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dellrose
The Ozarks, MO
(Zone 5b)

January 24, 2008
1:24 PM

Post #4446550

I know...bad pic! This was a good sized hawk of some kind!

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 24, 2008
1:49 PM

Post #4446601

Probably Red-tailed Hawk

Resin
dellrose
The Ozarks, MO
(Zone 5b)

January 24, 2008
5:28 PM

Post #4447638

Thanks Resin...I will keep my eyes peeled and try and get a better picture!
adelbertcat
Klamath River, CA

January 24, 2008
8:37 PM

Post #4448398

Taken at a tidal flat in Humboldt Bay. Very small birds (smaller than Kildeer) in small flocks.

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 24, 2008
9:29 PM

Post #4448624

Least Sandpiper

Resin
adelbertcat
Klamath River, CA

January 24, 2008
10:28 PM

Post #4448889

Thanks resin
gardenpom
Melbourne, FL

January 25, 2008
11:56 AM

Post #4451417

I'm always confusing you bird experts, sorry. Thanks RESIN!!! I made the mistake once of forgetting what direction a bird was flying and it looked like a duck, actually was a Hawk...these were flying to the right.

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ceejaytown
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 26, 2008
12:25 AM

Post #4454218

I loved OldNed's IDs. ROTFLMBO!!!!
gardenpom
Melbourne, FL

January 26, 2008
1:08 AM

Post #4454384

Here's one for the experts. At the time I was taking the picture I was thinking Robin, but not as sure now.

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 26, 2008
2:00 AM

Post #4454601

American Robin

Resin
dellrose
The Ozarks, MO
(Zone 5b)

January 26, 2008
2:44 AM

Post #4454814

Can you tell what kind of WoodPecker this is? Sorry I cropped from a long shot.

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gardenpom
Melbourne, FL

January 26, 2008
11:24 AM

Post #4455728

Thanks, Resin...I was hoping my first impression was right. They were moving pretty fast.

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 26, 2008
11:29 AM

Post #4455734

Quoting:Can you tell what kind of Woodpecker this is?

Yellow-bellied Sapsucker

Resin


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dellrose
The Ozarks, MO
(Zone 5b)

January 26, 2008
12:52 PM

Post #4455822

Oh thank you Resin! This is another first for me..I didn't even know it was there til I blew the pic up! Hope I can find him now and get a "real" pic! You are amazing Resin!

Rose

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 26, 2008
1:15 PM

Post #4455864

Not too difficult - the white crescent on the inner part of the wing shows it is a sapsucker, and Yellow-bellied is the only one that occurs in MO.

Resin
dellrose
The Ozarks, MO
(Zone 5b)

January 26, 2008
1:42 PM

Post #4455921

You are a good teacher Resin and I think you!

Rose
JulieQ
Cullman, AL
(Zone 7b)

January 26, 2008
7:42 PM

Post #4457334

Catbird? Belongs to the neighbor...he was actually eating the bird seed...

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bsharf
Palm Coast, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 26, 2008
8:21 PM

Post #4457460

How about this bird at Merritt Isl NWR, FL. Unfortunately I didn't get a good look at the legs.
Could it be a Yellowlegs, Greater or Lesser? Sorry the photo is so bad.

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 26, 2008
8:25 PM

Post #4457475

Greater Yellowlegs - note the stout, very slightly upturned bill with a pale base. On Lesser, the bill is slender, all dark, and straight.

Resin
bsharf
Palm Coast, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 26, 2008
8:25 PM

Post #4457476

Another view of the same bird. I see a hint of something yellow (perhaps legs) under the bird. Am I reading something into the photo that isn't really there?

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ceejaytown
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 26, 2008
9:08 PM

Post #4457610

Great photo of a catbird!! I always thought they were grayer...
adelbertcat
Klamath River, CA

January 26, 2008
9:52 PM

Post #4457751

Is the bill on that Yellowlegs two toned, or is that just an illusion?

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 26, 2008
10:06 PM

Post #4457799

Quoting:Is the bill on that Yellowlegs two toned, or is that just an illusion?

Yes, it is two-toned; that's one of the features which shows it is Greater Y'legs, not Lesser. Lesser has an all-black bill.

Resin
bsharf
Palm Coast, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 26, 2008
10:10 PM

Post #4457808

It looks as if the bill is darker at the end. The drawings, in the bird books, don't show that.

Thanks Resin for the ID.

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OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

January 26, 2008
10:28 PM

Post #4457879

Another method to tell Greater from Lesser (if bill color/shape are difficult to see).

Note that your Greater Yellowlegs's bill is longer than the distance between base-of-bill and back-of-head.

This is often easier to observe in bad lighting or at a distance.

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bsharf
Palm Coast, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 26, 2008
10:50 PM

Post #4457961

That's easy to remember! Old Ned, I guess you are at the Space Coast Birding Festival this weekend.
GrannyGrunt
Mount Pleasant Mills, PA
(Zone 5a)

January 26, 2008
10:58 PM

Post #4457996

The one on the right looks like a Downy. The one in the center is a House Finch. What is the bird on the left side of the picture?

Thanks,

GG

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nanny_56

nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 26, 2008
11:13 PM

Post #4458052

White Breasted Nuthatch, GG.
GrannyGrunt
Mount Pleasant Mills, PA
(Zone 5a)

January 26, 2008
11:28 PM

Post #4458117

Thanks Nanny.

Could one of you folks be so kind as to tell me how to tell a downy from a hairy from a red breasted woodpecker?

I think I am looking at the correct photo in my bird ID books and then I mess it up anyway. Sorry to say, this NEWBIE needs a ton of "learning" when it comes to which is what!!

GG
pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 26, 2008
11:33 PM

Post #4458137

Do you mean from a red-bellied?
indiana_lily
Jeffersonville, IN
(Zone 6b)

January 26, 2008
11:34 PM

Post #4458143

Ok ... Here's a Red Bellied Woodpecker...

edited for blonde moment typo

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GrannyGrunt
Mount Pleasant Mills, PA
(Zone 5a)

January 26, 2008
11:34 PM

Post #4458146

Yep! See, I can't even get the names straight to ask a question! Jeepers!

Sorry Pelletory.

GG
indiana_lily
Jeffersonville, IN
(Zone 6b)

January 26, 2008
11:36 PM

Post #4458149

The Red Breasted Woodpecker in my picture is a male, by the way.

Here is a female Downy...

I haven't seen a Hairy yet, but they look much like the Downy except they are larger and have longer bills.

Hope that helps!

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pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 26, 2008
11:38 PM

Post #4458156

Thats a Red-bellied. :-)
GrannyGrunt
Mount Pleasant Mills, PA
(Zone 5a)

January 26, 2008
11:39 PM

Post #4458159

Thanks indiana lily. I copied that to my ID file I have started on my computer. Sorry I misspoke when I said red breasted, I should have said red bellied. Thanks for knowing I was just being stupid.

I eventually will catch on to this! Or drive everyone batty trying!

GG
indiana_lily
Jeffersonville, IN
(Zone 6b)

January 26, 2008
11:39 PM

Post #4458160

duh!! thanks for that typo catch!! I'll go edit right now...
pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 26, 2008
11:40 PM

Post #4458164

The Hairy Woodpeckers also have pure white outer tail feathers while the Downys have some black spots on them.
GrannyGrunt
Mount Pleasant Mills, PA
(Zone 5a)

January 26, 2008
11:41 PM

Post #4458171

It surely does indiana lily. What pelletory said, red breasted.

Thanks

GG
GrannyGrunt
Mount Pleasant Mills, PA
(Zone 5a)

January 26, 2008
11:45 PM

Post #4458193

I noted that in my ID book, also.

Thanks pelletory.

Now, I will just sit back, enjoy the pictures, learn, and stop bothering you folks for a bit.

GG
pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 26, 2008
11:48 PM

Post #4458208

Your not bothering anyone GG! :-)
GrannyGrunt
Mount Pleasant Mills, PA
(Zone 5a)

January 26, 2008
11:49 PM

Post #4458215

Thanks pelletory. You folks are wonderful.

GG
dellrose
The Ozarks, MO
(Zone 5b)

January 27, 2008
1:07 AM

Post #4458528

Haven't a clue what this is!

Thanks,
Rose

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gardenpom
Melbourne, FL

January 27, 2008
1:24 AM

Post #4458579

Some type of Hawk...I'm sure one of the experts will be able to tell you which one.
adelbertcat
Klamath River, CA

January 27, 2008
4:15 AM

Post #4459131

Looks like a Red-tailed Hawk to me.

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 27, 2008
10:37 AM

Post #4459653

Yep, Red-tailed Hawk

Resin
dellrose
The Ozarks, MO
(Zone 5b)

January 27, 2008
12:26 PM

Post #4459702

Thanks Adel and Resin...that's the second bad shot I've gotten! Hopefully the third time will be the charm!

Rose

nanny_56

nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 27, 2008
2:15 PM

Post #4459921

I'm not sure which this is my self?? Think it is a Hairy...



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nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 27, 2008
2:17 PM

Post #4459927

Hairy Woodpecker- it is larger and the beak much longer. I had a hard time to and am just getting it myself! Sort of...



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nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 27, 2008
2:25 PM

Post #4459944

Here GG found the pics I wanted.

Downy

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nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 27, 2008
2:26 PM

Post #4459948

Hairy WP



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creekwalker
Benton County, MO
(Zone 5a)

January 27, 2008
5:18 PM

Post #4460543

Ok, I am still a little confused about IDing a Downy Woodpecker from a Hairy Woodpecker. I know Downy's are smaller, but that's hard to tell unless you can see them side by side.

Someone said Downy's have "dots". But where? Both seem to have dots to me. I am also wondering about the red patch on some of them. Some have it and some don't. Is it a male/female thing?

Hairy's have longer bills, but that's another one that is hard to tell unless they are side by side. Which one would this one be?

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creekwalker
Benton County, MO
(Zone 5a)

January 27, 2008
5:21 PM

Post #4460547

Here's one without the red patch

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creekwalker
Benton County, MO
(Zone 5a)

January 27, 2008
5:25 PM

Post #4460560

One more. What would they be and how about the red patch? And, does Missouri have both Downy's and Hairy's? I'm so confused!
lol


Edited for stupid spelling! :p

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 27, 2008
6:37 PM

Post #4460788

Quoting:I am also wondering about the red patch on some of them. Some have it and some don't. Is it a male/female thing?

Yes, red = male, no red = female

Quoting:Which one would this one be?

Downy. Another useful point, visible here:
Outermost white feather on tail with black spot(s) = Downy
Outermost white feather on tail pure white with NO black spots = Hairy

Missouri has both, though generally, Downy is commoner than Hairy.

Resin
creekwalker
Benton County, MO
(Zone 5a)

January 28, 2008
12:03 AM

Post #4462140

Thanks Resin!

OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

January 28, 2008
4:15 AM

Post #4463380

Just as with the Greater vs. Lesser Yellowlegs above, relative bill length is another way to differentiate between Downy and Hairy Woodpeckers.

Here's nanny's Downy. Note that the bill length, tip to base, is shorter by far than the distance from bill base to back of head.

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OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

January 28, 2008
4:15 AM

Post #4463385

...While the distance from bill tip to base in nanny's Hairy Woodpecker is about the same as bill base to back of head.

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OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

January 28, 2008
5:02 AM

Post #4463577

As Resin and others have said on this Forum, bird size is often very difficult to assess in the field...especially without a good point of reference...seeing another bird or object of known size nearby etc..

If you don't get a look at the outer tail feathers and/or if the Woodpecker has no close reference point, try comparing length of bill to head size (not just trying to decide if it has a short or a long bill.)

Edit (kan't spel)

This message was edited Jan 28, 2008 12:04 AM
ceejaytown
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 28, 2008
5:22 AM

Post #4463640

It also seems to me that the hairy wp has the broad straight line through its eye, while the downy's line is not straight - it broadens in the middle.

BTW, I was looking at a birder's photos today, taken over the weekend, and I recognized the Ruby-crowned Kinglet with no crown showing. I learned that here!
pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 28, 2008
9:43 AM

Post #4463911

Very good!
debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 28, 2008
12:59 PM

Post #4464067

Oh yeah CJ,
You should be seeing RC Kinglet down there quite a bit. I sure hope you can get some pics :-)
seemama
Kissimmee, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 28, 2008
2:31 PM

Post #4464336

Hi everyone, got a bit sick so have not been following events. Everytime we have a cold spell coming we seem to have thousands of swifts, they come to a vacant site behind my house, and there are so many that there are not enough trees to take them, then they move over the road to another double vacant lot, the sky looks so full of them there must be thousands,just flying around then landing flying around some more before they move on. I only see them when we are expecting a cold spell -so it's not very often. Resin I never saw this kind of thing in UK (London area), it's only since I have lived in Florida (3 1/2 Years) we used to get them in the evenings over there, but not to this extent.
heyitsmejudy
Lawrenceville, GA

January 28, 2008
3:51 PM

Post #4464675

I'm hoping one of you can help me, even without a picture.
I've had a woodpecker on my suet feeder often this past week and weekend... It's about 6 inches long, dark bill... same coloring as a downy or hairy BUT it has red on its head and under its chin. It also has a white stripe all around its skull. It's NOT a red-bellied woodpecker. It has black and white on its back and it looks kind of dirty for lack of better word.. in other words, not just solid B&W.
It almost looks like a sapsucker... but it's eating suet.
Could it be a baby pileated?

OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

January 28, 2008
5:46 PM

Post #4465254

Sapsuckers readily come to suet feeders.
A juvenile could probably appear dirty...chest and belly are a sandy color.
Flight-capable Pileated would be 16 inches long.
creekwalker
Benton County, MO
(Zone 5a)

January 28, 2008
5:52 PM

Post #4465291

Thanks Ned. That explanation about the bill size helps a lot. I wasn't sure just how much longer a Hairy's bill was than a Downy's so that cleared up a lot.
heyitsmejudy
Lawrenceville, GA

January 28, 2008
5:53 PM

Post #4465292

Hmmmmmm. Well, then maybe that's what it is because that's the closest to matching what I have as I can get. I'll go with that. Won't lie... had my heart set on it being a pileated back in my yard.. but I'll stay on that task.
GrannyGrunt
Mount Pleasant Mills, PA
(Zone 5a)

January 28, 2008
6:10 PM

Post #4465362

Thanks to all of you folks for the information on the Downy vs. Hairy Woodpeckers. This morning there was a woodpecker at the suet that is different from any I have seen before. Unfortunately, it was too cloudy to get a really good picture. But, better days are coming.

Thanks again.

GG

OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

January 28, 2008
6:16 PM

Post #4465386

Glad to help gw. In nanny's pic of the Downy, its head is squinched down which exaggerates the bill/head thing but it would still be obvious even in an unsquinched head. The squinching in the photo is probably obvious to everybody but I just wanted to say squinch lots of times in a posting.
OldSquinch
original_sybil
Brainerd, MN

January 28, 2008
6:57 PM

Post #4465539

Who is this with the red patch on the top of the head?

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 28, 2008
7:04 PM

Post #4465563

Common Redpoll

Resin

nanny_56

nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 28, 2008
7:54 PM

Post #4465754

LOL, OldNed!!!

Downy Woodpecker & Red Breasted Nuthatch



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nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 28, 2008
7:56 PM

Post #4465761

This for indiana_lily. This one has 2 Red Breasted Nuthatches in it!

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nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 28, 2008
7:57 PM

Post #4465768

Well dang I'm on the wrong one again!! lol

I'll just go over to the Daily Pics now...
original_sybil
Brainerd, MN

January 29, 2008
12:38 AM

Post #4466729

Another new bird for me! Thanks Resin for the id.
original_sybil
Brainerd, MN

January 29, 2008
12:40 AM

Post #4466743

From Dec. 4 StarTribune:

See them in winter

Winter is the only time we're likely to see hoary redpolls in Minnesota. The birds sometimes drift down from breeding grounds that stretch from Alaska into Canada's high Arctic country.

At feeders

Their cousins, common redpolls, are more likely to visit feeders. (Thistle seed is a good lure.) Commons are expected to be more numerous this winter. They're among the finch species predicted to move south of their usual range because of thin seed crops in northern birches and conifers.

burn_2007
Grand-Falls, NB
(Zone 4a)

January 29, 2008
4:50 PM

Post #4469393

I'm looking for siskens in these pictures, they're from PEI, my sister thinks she see one, near the Goldfinch. I only see Redpolls and Gold finches.

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burn_2007
Grand-Falls, NB
(Zone 4a)

January 29, 2008
4:51 PM

Post #4469397

And this one

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burn_2007
Grand-Falls, NB
(Zone 4a)

January 29, 2008
4:52 PM

Post #4469403

or this one

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burn_2007
Grand-Falls, NB
(Zone 4a)

January 29, 2008
4:54 PM

Post #4469420

And would you agree with me that the birds in the middle is a Hoary redpoll, all puffed up and white.

If so, are they rare sighting for PEI also?

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pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 29, 2008
5:09 PM

Post #4469504

That last one does look like a Hoary Redpoll.

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 29, 2008
6:10 PM

Post #4469785

Quoting:I'm looking for siskens in these pictures, they're from PEI, my sister thinks she see one, near the Goldfinch. I only see Redpolls and Gold finches.

Siskin ;-)
Yep, there's a Pine Siskin in the pics; half way up the far right edge in pic 1, lower far right in pic 2, and the centre bird in pic 3. Note the yellow base to the tail, just visible, and hint of greenish-yellow in the face, which Redpolls don't have.

Pics 1 and 2 also have a very probable Arctic Redpoll, the second from the left, tho' not 100% certain. And yep, that's one in pic 4 too.

Resin
jo11
Saint Paul, MN

January 30, 2008
3:59 AM

Post #4472180

Okay, I am confused. Is the one picture from Original Sybil a Common Redpoll or a Hoary Redpoll?
burn_2007
Grand-Falls, NB
(Zone 4a)

January 30, 2008
4:23 AM

Post #4472247

Thank Pelle and Resin. The Sisken, is harder for me, If I look in the book I see this yellow, but on the pic I have a hard time to see it. Really need a good trained Eye for this. I'll come back tomorrow to look again and study it.

Jo11, what I've learn about the Hoary here, They are bigger, whiter underneath, and wider rump, less pronounce streaks on the side of the bird, and if I'm wrong, Resin will fine tune it, for us I hope.
pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 30, 2008
9:47 AM

Post #4472527

Jo, sybils is a Common Redpoll. :-)

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 30, 2008
11:03 AM

Post #4472573

Quoting:The Sisken, is harder for me, If I look in the book I see this yellow, but on the pic I have a hard time to see it

Not too easy with these pics, I'll agree. Doesn't help that each time the bird had its head turned slightly away from the camera; with a clearer side shot, the longer, greyer (not yellowish) bill, and lack of a black chin patch, would be more obvious.

Resin
JulieQ
Cullman, AL
(Zone 7b)

January 30, 2008
3:38 PM

Post #4473490

Who am I ? Gray crown, black throat ...Sorry it is in the shade and through a window...

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JulieQ
Cullman, AL
(Zone 7b)

January 30, 2008
3:42 PM

Post #4473505

Never mind, I found it.. male house sparrow. He was on a different page from the other sparrows in my book. lol
Here he is again, with a couple of friends.

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 30, 2008
3:42 PM

Post #4473506

House Sparrow, male.

Resin
gardenpom
Melbourne, FL

January 30, 2008
4:37 PM

Post #4473760

This one was on a light pole on the street behind my yard...I think it's an immature White Ibis.

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 30, 2008
7:01 PM

Post #4474288

Yep, correct.

Resin
gardenpom
Melbourne, FL

January 30, 2008
8:01 PM

Post #4474507

Hard to tell Resin, but I think this one is actually a Royal Grackle :)

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pelletory
Marlton, NJ

January 30, 2008
8:07 PM

Post #4474531

LOL!

nanny_56

nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 30, 2008
8:17 PM

Post #4474590

GP, ROTFLOL!!
ceejaytown
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 30, 2008
9:19 PM

Post #4474835

Oh, that is too funny!!! Good one.

JulieQ - It's not listed with the other sparrows, because the native sparrows are in a different family. The House (or English) Sparrow is an import and is in the Weaver Finch family (Passeridae) and the native sparrows are not. The House Sparrow and the Eurasian Tree Sparrow are the only two weaver finches we have in the US, both imported.

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

January 30, 2008
9:27 PM

Post #4474875

Hi Ceejay - not quite:

House Sparrow is in the sparrow family Passeridae

The American "sparrows" are actually buntings (Emberizidae), not sparrows at all.

The weavers are in a third family, Ploceidae; some older books list them in the same family as sparrows but they are so distinct that they are now treated separately.

Resin
JulieQ
Cullman, AL
(Zone 7b)

January 30, 2008
10:20 PM

Post #4475105

Interesting! I still have a lot to learn.
ceejaytown
The Woodlands, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 31, 2008
6:29 AM

Post #4477182

(The National Audubon Society's) The Sibley's Guide to Birds lists American Sparrows and their allies - the Emberizine Buntings, Emberizine Sparrows, Towhees, Juncos, Longspurs - in the family Emberizidae, and the Old World Sparrows, (including the House Sparrow) are classified as Passeridae.

The House Sparrows are referred to as Weaver Finches in Audubon's' Field Guide to N Amercian Birds (yes, Ploceidae there), while the American Sparrows are placed in the Fringillidae family, along with Grosbeaks, Buntings, Finches. The Warblers are in Parulidae.

If that isn't bad enough, National Geographic Society's Field Guide to the Birds of N America puts our Sparrows in Emberizidae and throws Warblers and some others, including Cardinals, into the mix. Here the House Sparrow is put in the Passeridae family and is referred to as a Weaver.

I'd say that is quite confusing!!! And I am indeed confused.

nanny_56

nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 31, 2008
12:04 PM

Post #4477472

Well, yeah!!

What the heck, if the experts don't know how are WE to know??

nanny_56

nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 31, 2008
4:49 PM

Post #4478555

I took the liberty of starting vol. 4 here http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/809038/

Hope that's okay
debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 3, 2008
2:58 PM

Post #4489829

Going to be working at the Fort Worth Botanical Garden Conservatory as a volunteer in March. While there yesterday there was a bird up in the rafters... It is not a native,.. Just wanted to see what it is, so I got a couple pics, (poor pics) but between him hiding and the misters in there it wasn't easy to get them, lol..
John ,(the director) said the bird was from Africa

Is this a Superb Starling (S. superbus or L. superbus)

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debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 3, 2008
3:00 PM

Post #4489833

Another

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debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 3, 2008
3:01 PM

Post #4489836

Last one...


Thanks!

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original_sybil
Brainerd, MN

February 3, 2008
4:25 PM

Post #4490181

I don't know what it is but I am curious!

OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

February 3, 2008
5:37 PM

Post #4490471

What a great Botanic Garden!

Last time I was at the Fort Worth Botanical Garden, there were several of those guys inside of the tropical exhibit flying freely all around. Nobody I talked to there knew why they were in the greenhouse or how they got there.



Oh...the bird is a Superb Starling from East Africa.
debnes_dfw_tx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 3, 2008
6:17 PM

Post #4490575

Thanks Ned!! I think they imported them to help with insects. They will have to be taken out once the butterflies fill the Conservatory.. Then put back after the exhibition is over to clean up. Kinda like what goes on here all winter after 20 native species have used my garden to breed. I posted more here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4490548

:^)
KdeeinNC
Fuquay Varina, NC

February 10, 2008
2:00 PM

Post #4519143

My first time ever on a forum. I do not have a picture of my little bird but thought perhaps with the slight description I have you could point me in the right direction. This small bird is green colored and slightly larger than a finch. It has two definite white wing-bars on its wings and its wings seem dark brown or black. The green is on it's head and chest. Unfortunately that's about all I was able to identify. I sat down yesterday afternoon with my binoculars and a digital camera but when he/she landed, I couldn't get a good look and no picture. I'm in NC (zone 7b) and Wildbird suggested it might be a ruby crowned kinglet but it doesn't really look like the pics in my birdbook - not green enough and not the right look with the wingbars. As for other birds around my feeders, I have Juncos, house finch and purple finch, an occasional bluebird, Carolina Chickadee, etc. Oh yes, it loves the flat feeder and ate some bread crumbs I threw in it just to see what they might attract. I have black-oiled sunflower seed and the Special Feeder with nuts. If you have any ideas, I can look them up and will try again this afternoon to get a better look.
pelletory
Marlton, NJ

February 10, 2008
2:09 PM

Post #4519167

Welcome to the Bird Watching forum at Daves Kdee!

I'll let Resin or someone else talk about the bird you've seen. :-)

nanny_56

nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

February 10, 2008
2:50 PM

Post #4519281

Another House Sparrow, I suppose??



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pelletory
Marlton, NJ

February 10, 2008
2:56 PM

Post #4519307

BTW, just for the future, this is the Old Thread.

Heres the New One:

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/809038/
MackenzieWilson
Loch Lomond
United Kingdom

April 13, 2008
8:11 AM

Post #4800834

Hi,

It is a male Siskin. We are over run with them this year.
pelletory
Marlton, NJ

April 13, 2008
10:45 AM

Post #4800917

Hi This is a very old thread; heres the

current volumn of Identify This Bird:

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/832470/

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