Hi, I'm trying to find or add 'Pausinystalia' under family 'Rubiaceae', says genus Pausinystalia doesn't exist. Coryanthe, it's former, doesn't exist either. Is there a different genus I should use for this plant? thanks for your help, Marlon
I've researched Alania several times and also had trouble finding what family it belonged in. We know we have some genera still in Liliaceae that has been moved to another family. We've started working on those.
Alania was a little tough to find, but The International Plant Names Index agrees with the New South Wales Flora website, so let's put it in Anthericaceae. If we find later that it belongs in a different family we will update it, but for now, that's the most current information I could find. I've added Alania to the accepted list.
Tom, I've added Chionographis to the accepted list also. The International Plant Names Index, as well as the Royal Horticultural Society places it in the Melanthiaceae family. I've added Chionographis to the accepted list also.
Sorry for the delay. I don't know how we missed this.
I did some checking, and the only references I can find to Zephybranthes is on the Plant Delights website, and a couple other citations on a couple other websites. None of our resources have it listed as a valid genus. It may still be working it's way down the pipe though.
The Royal Horticultural Society has 'Norma Pearl' listed as Zephyranthes, and until more is published about the intergeneric hybrid Zephybranthes, I think we should stick with how RHS has it listed. Later, if Zephybranthes becomes more widely accepted, we can update the entry then. I hope this link works. If not, type in Norma Pearl and it will bring it up. http://www.rhs.org.uk/databases/summary2.asp?crit=Norma%20and%20Pearl&Genus=Zephyranthes
Can I question the use of the family Lomandraceae. In the Flora of Australia this family was merged into the Xanthorrhoeaceae. It appears from the Flora of New South Wales, that the Lomandraceae has been reinstated, however we already have 8 plants of the genus Lomandra in PlantFiles, all recorded as Xanthorrhoeaceae.
I don't know which is the right way to go, but we should be consistent and that would seem to mean at least for the present that Lomandra's should all remain in Xanthorrhoeaceae,
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I've added Baccaurea and Bouea to the accepted list. Alibertia is already on the accepted list, so you shouldn't have any problem adding plant in that genus. If you are, please let us know what problems you are encountering so we can look into it. We use RHS, IPNI and GRIN most of the time to verify our entries. Tropicos seems to be way behind on their updates.
I'm having a little trouble determining if Euryomyrtus is the current genus and Baeckea the synonym, or if it's the other way around. Do you know which one is the current? We already have Baeckea in PlantFiles, so before I add Euryomyrtus I want to make sure which is the current name. Perhaps not all species transferred either to/from Euryomyrtus either.
Can you help me understand what the deal is with this?
my understanding is that Euryomyrtus is the current genus name for Euryomyrtus ramosissima, which is the secies I am wanting to add. The genus Baeckea was a large one in Australia and has recently been thoroughly revised. I have been following these revisions with all the (once Baeckea) species that I have images of.
Thanks Joan, I had forgotten that I had made an entry and added some images previously, before I became aware of the name change. I have made the changes myself, so it now reads Euryomyrtus ramosissima, with the synonym set to Baeckea ramosissima. I was able to change it because I made the original entry. Thanks for your help,
The closest listing/image I found for my Philodendron erubescens 'Pink Princess' is a black-leaf philodendron. I was wondering if Philodendron erubescens 'Pink Princess' could be added to the Philodendron family. Thanks, Snug
Could you also add Willughbeia in the family Apocynaceae and Mouriri to the family Melastomataceae.
I might as well add Inocarpus but I'm not sure which family to put it in. Many sources list it as Fabaceae but plantfiles does not use that. What is the alternative? Papilionaceae?
I am getting near to completing adding all my plant photos to PlantFiles and will soon be moving into adding photos of Mosses and Liverworts.
I have one recently photographed Liverwort, which I would like to add. Could you please add the family: Hymenophytaceae and its genus Hymenophytum to the approved list,
I'm having trouble verifying that Hymenophytum in Hymenophytaceae is current taxonomy. There's just not a lot of information out there about these plant types. They are in the plantae kingdom, so they can be added to PlantFiles. We (I) just need to find a way to verify whether the taxonomy is current. Do you have any links to share?
Hymenophytum and Hymenophytaceae have been added to the accepted list. Thank you for your patience while we discussed this. It's a new plant type for us and we aren't familiar with it yet.
My confusion was that I initially found it listed in the plant kingdom, but when I went looking for some resources for these types of plants (GRIN and IPNI don't cover them), I found some resources that listed the kingdom as unknown.
I really do think they are in the plant kingdom, but if we later find that they are not, we will deal with that then.
I'm still looking for some good resources for these. If I find any I'll post them here.
Thanks! That was much easier to find references for. While I can find references for Hymenophytum, I couldn't find enough to determine anything about it. It might not be used anymore. I've changed Hymenophytum to Hymenophyton.
No need to apologize. I learned a lot trying to research it.
I was thinking about what category to put them in. There is no category for liverworts. I wondered whether the category Mosses could be expanded to read Mosses and Liverworts, or even Mosses, Liverworts and Hornworts, although I have never yet found a Hornwort, although at least one species does grow in this area.
Could you please add some more moss Genera and where necessary families to the approved list::
Acrocladium in the family: Lembophyllaceae Grimmia in the family: Grimmiaceae Hypopterygium in the family: Hypopterygiaceae Lopidium in the family: Hypopterygiaceae Hypnodendron in the family: Hypnodendraceae Atrichum in the family: Polytrichaceae Bracythecium in the family: Brachytheciaceae Cratoneuron in the family: Cratoneuraceae Neckera in the family: Neckeraceae
Could you please add yet more moss Genera and where necessary families to the approved list:: Pseudoscleopodium in the family: Brachytheciaceae Hylocomium in the family: Hylocomiaceae Pleurozium in the family: Hylocomiaceae Hypnum in the family: Hypnaceae Ptilium in the family: Hypnaceae Lembophyllum in the family: Lembophyllaceae Wijkia in the family: Pylaisiadeplphaceae Thuidiopsis in the family: Thuidiaceae Orthotrichum in the family: Orthotrichaceae Tortula in the family: Pottiaceae Ptychomnion in the family: Ptychomniaceae Racopilum in the family: Racopilaceae Pyrrhobryum in the family: Rhizogoniaceae
I believe I've got all the new genera added, along with the families that needed to be added. The first one is Pseudoscleropodium - correct? And we have Pleuroziaceae listed as a valid family name; is Pleurozium in a different family?
Searching for that species with the family gives 91 hits with Pleuroziaceae
but 1960 hits with Hylocomiaceae, so unless you have a definite authority to refer to I would stick to its being in Hylocomiaceae,
Terry, I did a little further checking by googling Pleuroziaceae on the web. It seems that Pleuroziaceae is a family of liverworts, containing just one genus Pleurozia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleurozia
The genus Pleurozium is a moss not a liverwort, hence it is not in that family but in Hylocomiaceae, which is a moss family.
I am amazed at two genera with such a tiny spelling difference between them and it is easy to see why that would lead to mistakes in allocating species to the right family!
I have finished adding all my moss pictures, now just the liverworts to complete 7 years of adding all my old plant photos to PlantFiles.
Could you please add the following Liverwort Genera and where necessary families to the approved list::
Chiloscyphus in the Geocalycaceae Barbilophozia in the Jungermanniaceae Lepidozia in the Lepidoziaceae Trichocolea in the Trichocoleaceae Metzgeria in the Metzgeriaceae Frullania in the Frullania clavata Porella in the Porellaceae
Why is Fabaceae not included as a family? I can understand the need to use subfamilies when families are large, but shouldn't there at least be an informational page that gets displayed if Fabaceae is entered?
victorengel wrote:Why is Fabaceae not included as a family? I can understand the need to use subfamilies when families are large, but shouldn't there at least be an informational page that gets displayed if Fabaceae is entered?
As far as displaying it for informational purposes, it's important to keep in mind that Plantfiles is a database, and as such, each field for a plant's name must meet certain criteria. If we added a listing for Fabaceae for informational purposes) that would place it on our family checklist, and allow it to be used to create new entries - some of which could easily be duplicative.
Thanks for the reply and link to the thread. Since I am a computer programmer, I naturally automatically think of alternatives. One obvious alternative is to add an edit check to the family field, and if Fabaceae is entered, provide a popup from which to choose the appropriate subfamily.
Another obvious suggestion would be to not prompt for a family when a subfamily is sometimes called for. This can be fixed with a simple label change. It never dawned on me to enter Papilionidae because I was being asked to enter a family name. I couldn't believe it when the system would accept neither Fabaceae nor Leguminosae, the only two family names I knew of. Had the label suggested I could have entered a subfamily name, that would have been helpful.
Finally, in most cases, the genus is already in the system. The user should not be required to enter a family name if it's already known. If it is left blank, the system should look it up from its store of knowledge. The user can then confirm it or select from alternatives in the unlikely event there are multiple possibilities.
Guess I'm doing something wrong. I enter Saposhnikovia in genus in the search page, hit enter and get "Do you mean.." with nothing remotely similar offered. How do I add the firsr species under a newly added genus?
We just added the genus to the accepted list, so that means no Saposhnikovia entries exist in PlantFiles yet. Once there are some entries created, then the search will bring them up.
To add a plant, click on the 'Add A Plant' link underneath the tabs in the PlantFiles environment. Fill in the common name, family, genus and species field (cultivar also if there is one) and click on submit. Then you can go back to the entry and finish filling in the details, add a photo and comment if you wish.
Try that and let us know if you have any further problems.
slg124 wrote:Sorry if this is not right spot for this posting. Just joined DG. Is there a database that allows me to choose characteristics such as sun needed, height, color, etc. and then have perenials spit out?
For now I made my entries under the Araliaceae. I figured it can be changed if need be. While I'm at it would you please add a few more genera to the list for me. They are: Polyosma, Robinsonia, and Stilbocarpa. Thank you.
Terry, how are the Plant Files kept up to date with the seemingly endless changes in classification currently going on in plant taxonomy? Is there a website that has the latest accepted taxonomy? Looking something up at the Kew site I saw that Calamintha is supposedly a "non-accepted genus", with Clinopodium being the accepted name. Plant Files still uses the Calamintha genus, as do other resources I checked out.
We have some volunteer editors who painstakingly work to keep PF updated. We are typically not quick to jump on taxonomic shifts, because sometimes they move back-and-forth, so we let the dust settle before we make a move. On any page of PlantFiles (even a page of search results), you'll see a red "report an error" button - you can click on it to let them know about possible changes such as the Calamintha to Clinopodium. They will investigate it and determine what we should do.
Thanks again. I have one last one having just finished poring over the microscope identifying my specimens. Could you also add the Moss Genus: Trachyloma, in the Family: Trachylomataceae. The genus was previously placed in the family: Pterobryaceae, but I am pretty sure it is now in Trachylomataceae,
HEHEHEHEHEHE! I was just giving you a hard time. :>)
I saw we had Pterobryaceae listed, but I didn't add Trachylomataceae because I missed it. I don't know why it would have accepted the Family name if it wasn't in our list. But maybe that's why it wouldn't accept Trachyloma. I've now added Trachylomataceae to the Family list. Give it another try and let me know whether or not it works now.
You're very welcome. However, the thanks go to people like Dave, Terry, Melody, Joan, and many others who originally undertook this gigantic task and have been maintaining the database for many years. I've only been involved with PlantFiles Administration for a few months.
I am so happy to see you in the admin capacity. I have always enjoyed and respected your fine posts and the fairness with which you have treated all members even when we were mistaken as I have been so many times.
I wish you much good will in your recently designated responsibilities.
I know of no single person who could possibly have better skills with which to pursue this important task and role.
Thank you so much for the compliment. It is much appreciated. You have no idea how much it means to me coming from you!
Now you must admit I've been mistaken many times too!!! LOL! I appreciate how respectful YOU are to other members and how fair your assessment of any particular issue has been. It makes for a very comfortable collegial atmosphere!
Edited to add: I wouldn't have thought to find you here!
This database is so deep its difficult to find needed species!! When I find a needed genus I feel like I hit a little jackpot. If you would be so good as to add:
Score another plant for the Lower Fl. Keys!
Could you please add the genus Psilocaulon in the family Aizoaceae to the check list. It is already present as a synonym for several species of Brownanthus. I wish to add the species Psiloaculon tenue'
Hi Ken, I've added Psilocaulon to the checklist. Is this a taxonomic change among any of our entries that list it as a synonym, rather than the currently accepted name? If so, feel free to file error reports for them.
I don't know Terry. both are South African genera. I only have information on the one species, that is naturalised in Australia. The Flora od Victoria only gives the name Psilocaulon tenue. It does not mention any synonyms.