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    Forum: Beginner VegetablesReplies: 32, Views: 159
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    14
    Debary, FL

    February 9, 2008 3:28 PM

    Post #4515568

    What soil do you'll use.

    I am trying to start a graden and need soil.

    First i was going fot horse and cow manure but my mom decided not too.

    If you could please help.

    THank you very much

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 9, 2008 3:41 PM

    Post #4515629

    14 have you gone to the soil and composting forum
    they talk all about dirt ! :) and give great help and ideas .
    I guess you first have to consider what soil you have in your area
    clay
    loam
    sand ?
    i m not familiar with FL ?
    or are you talking about starting seedling and what medium to use. ?
    with manure you let it age first before using it .
    hope it helps
    sue
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 9, 2008 7:40 PM

    Post #4516495

    Thank you very much Sue.

    In florida we have pure sand.

    I talked to my Mom and she said that if she uses manure she wants cow.

    But then I said just to go to the store and buy soil.

    I am still not sure what i am doing.

    But thank you very much for your advise.

    Allie14
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 9, 2008 8:33 PM

    Post #4516668

    Hey sue,

    I was looking for the soil and manure fourm.

    Maybe i just did not see it.

    Well you have been a big help. Once again thank you.

    Allie14
    LTilton
    Glen Ellyn, IL (Zone 5b)

    February 9, 2008 8:44 PM

    Post #4516710

    For a lot of the forums here, you have to be a subscriber.

    If kale is all you want to grow, you might consider something like an Earthbox, that is filled with a potting mix, not real soil.

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 9, 2008 11:29 PM

    Post #4517270

    good idea LTilton
    :)
    sue

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 9, 2008 11:33 PM

    Post #4517286

    go here and you will get alot of help :)
    http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/soil/all/0
    sue
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 9, 2008 11:34 PM

    Post #4517289

    Well guys the only thing is that i want to grow alot of diffrent things.

    But thanks for your advise.

    Allie14
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 9, 2008 11:37 PM

    Post #4517301

    Well the only problem is you have to be a paid subscriber in order to read the other peoples replys.

    But thank you for sending that to me.

    Allie14

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 9, 2008 11:38 PM

    Post #4517303

    Allie
    what do you want to grow ?
    and where are you growing , in a backyard or a patio style
    How much room do you have to do a garden ?
    :)
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 9, 2008 11:57 PM

    Post #4517358

    Sue,

    we are doing it in the backyard and it is about 6 feet by 5feet.

    And i am planning on planting cucs, peppers, green beans, lettuce, sqaush's, and I am not sure what else right know.

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 10, 2008 12:23 AM

    Post #4517432

    with such a small area i don't know if squash is going to be good idea. They take up alot of room even if its just 1 plant.
    cucs too. unless you trellis them
    lettuce is good idea for an area like that
    but to be honest since it is so small i would do
    lettuce,radish's, green beans ,carrots or onion. if you do something big it will cover the small stuff and not give them any sun.
    i bet you could train the squash to go on the outside and off to the side ? just plant it on the end.
    you would need to do a raised bed and add lots of topsoil and some compost . mix it in and keep good drainage.
    hope it helps
    let me know if i can help some more
    sue
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 10, 2008 12:29 AM

    Post #4517450

    Hey sue,

    It is a raised bed I built it with wood.

    Well I will tell you maybe tomarrow if any other veggie pops up in my mind.

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLLLLLLLLLLL YOUR HELP.

    IT HAS HELPED ME TONSSSSSSSSSSS.
    Allie14

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 10, 2008 12:33 AM

    Post #4517468

    Glad to hear it
    Good luck , you will enjoy all the goodies when its time to harvest
    Let me know how it goes
    sue
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 10, 2008 12:35 AM

    Post #4517477

    Oh I will.

    DO you have any animals?

    I love dogs and horses.

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 10, 2008 3:48 AM

    Post #4518455

    nope right now we are in an apt , waiting for the new place to be built . We will have a farm.
    what kind of dogs do you have
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 10, 2008 7:14 PM

    Post #4520184

    Hey Sue,

    We do not have any animals.

    Are you going to have farm animals on the farm?

    I think it would be fun to have a farm but it is tonsss of work.

    You have to go out everyday and do chores.

    What do you think about chicken manure?

    Cause we were in the store yesterday looking for soil and found out about it.

    Have a great day.

    Allie14


    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 10, 2008 8:06 PM

    Post #4520343

    What did you find out about it ?
    it is considered a " hot " manure and is high in nitrogen. you need a balance for your fertilizer.
    honestly with your area i would buy a bag . Of Miracle grow . Most manures have to age at least a yr to use it. Some come in bags and is called compost. which is a better alternative then using straight manure. Easier too.
    Are you starting seeds inside then transplant them outside or are you wanting to plant them straight in the ground ?
    your local library would have many books on seeds starting and gardening
    do you like to read
    i love to read
    sue
    LTilton
    Glen Ellyn, IL (Zone 5b)

    February 10, 2008 8:14 PM

    Post #4520361

    In a garden that size, grow upwards. Cucumbers and some summer squash can be trellised to save space. Pole beans give a greater yield for the space than bush beans. All the crops you mention are hot-weather crops, except for lettuce. Planting your lettuce on the north end of your garden will give it shade from all the crops on the trellises, keep it cooler. Also the kale, if you decide to try it.



    This message was edited Feb 10, 2008 5:05 PM
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 10, 2008 10:13 PM

    Post #4520819

    Hey Sue,

    Yes I love to read.

    Oh I am not sure what we are doing about the seeds.

    I remember in the store reading on the bag of soil compost.

    That is what I told mom to get Miracal Grow.

    Thanks for all your help.

    I really needed it.

    Allie14

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 10, 2008 10:45 PM

    Post #4520960

    :)
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 10, 2008 10:57 PM

    Post #4520998

    Do you come on alot?

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 10, 2008 11:12 PM

    Post #4521052

    yep
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 10, 2008 11:13 PM

    Post #4521057

    Is it cold up there?

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 11, 2008 1:21 AM

    Post #4521589

    -10
    let me know how your garden goes
    looking forward to it
    :)
    sue
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 11, 2008 12:12 PM

    Post #4523078

    Hey Sue,

    Ok I will tell you how the garden goes.

    -10 is freezing to us.

    Have a great day.

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 11, 2008 3:47 PM

    Post #4523852

    yep .Its cold for us to lol
    any other questions let me know
    im sure others will give you more info too :)
    sue
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 12, 2008 7:33 PM

    Post #4529070

    Hey Sue,

    How was your weekend?

    I am working more and more on my garde.

    Thanks a ton for all your help.

    Allie14

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 12, 2008 10:10 PM

    Post #4529693

    weekend is cold :)
    how is your garden comming along
    your most welcome on the help
    anytime
    sue
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 12, 2008 10:12 PM

    Post #4529705

    Great.

    Well we are adding compost to the soil, what do you think of that?

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 13, 2008 2:05 AM

    Post #4531043

    what kind of compost ? and how much ? to much can do more damage than good
    sounds good , helps with drainage and nutriants
    what did you decide to grow ?
    14
    Debary, FL

    February 15, 2008 11:48 PM

    Post #4543797

    Hey Sue,

    I am just writing to tell you that I got a email saying I am no longer allowed to write here.

    Because I am UNDER 13.

    Once again thank you for all your help.

    God Bless.

    Allie

    taynors

    taynors
    Urbana, OH (Zone 5b)

    February 16, 2008 12:32 AM

    Post #4543940

    no problem Allie
    Best of luck to you

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