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dave
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
 February 10, 2008
11:36 AM Post #4519432
| Please describe what the fees should be.
I presume a fixed cost to list an auction, and then a percentage of the final selling price? What fees make sense? |
AJNTEXAS
Beaumont, TX
(Zone 9a)
February 10, 2008
11:55 AM Post #4519503
| I think you should only charge a final selling fee. It would encourage more people to list items. Especially those new to auction selling. I think ther will be more than enough succesfull auctions to make a profit with just the final selling fee.
This message was edited Feb 10, 2008 9:56 AM |
JeaneTH
Lexington, MI
(Zone 6a)
February 10, 2008
01:19 PM Post #4519779
| I like AJNTEXAS's idea of just charging a final fee. Etsy charges 20cents to list then 3.5% selling fee. I can live with that. It's less than ebay. But lower would be better. |
AJNTEXAS
Beaumont, TX
(Zone 9a)
February 10, 2008
02:00 PM Post #4519942
| No listing fee will encourage more listing. The more listing will bring more sales which means more profit for the auction administrator. The lower cost to me as a seller means lower cost for me which I can pass on to the buyer. Buyer gets a better deal the seller and auction administrator make more profit. |
JeaneTH
Lexington, MI
(Zone 6a)
February 10, 2008
02:27 PM Post #4520031
| I agree! |
Tir_Na_Nog
Houston
United States
(Zone 9b)
February 10, 2008
02:29 PM Post #4520040
| What are the ebay fees running? It's been awhile since I looked into that and remember thinking it was prohibitive to even list something in my case. |
Tir_Na_Nog
Houston
United States
(Zone 9b)
February 10, 2008
02:32 PM Post #4520045
| Low fees to entice for sure.
For now we just use Craigslist and avoid shipping issues. |
gordo
Gulfport, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 10, 2008
03:22 PM Post #4520208
| No listing fee.
.10 gallery photo
.15 per photo to post each photo hosted by Dave's (nothing if self hosted).
2% final value fee when the transaction is marked completed.
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Syrumani
San Antonio, TX
(Zone 8b)
February 10, 2008
03:50 PM Post #4520295
| Since this subject came up a few days ago, I've been searching other auction sites. There are some out there that do not have a listing fee, or a first photo fee. They only charge a percentage of the final value. I think if this auction site started out that way, it would be great. Then, as time and participation increases, then it could be explored to either add a listing fee, or slightly raise the final value fee. |
A_ZTrees
Morrison, TN
February 10, 2008
08:20 PM Post #4521347
|
Insertion Fees for Auction-style listings
Starting or Reserve Price Current Insertion Fee Insertion Fee (effective 02/20/2008)
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.20 $0.15 Lower fee!
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.40 $0.35 Lower fee!
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60 $0.55 Lower fee!
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20 $1.00 Lower fee!
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40 $2.00 Lower fee!
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60 $3.00 Lower fee!
$500.00 or more $4.80 $4.00 Lower fee!
FREE GALLERY AS OF FEB 20TH
Insertion Fees for Fixed Price listings
Starting or Reserve Price Current Insertion Fee Insertion Fee (effective 02/20/2008)
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.20 N/A
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.40 $0.35 Lower fee!
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60 $0.55 Lower fee!
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20 $1.00 Lower fee!
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40 $2.00 Lower fee!
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60 $3.00 Lower fee!
$500.00 or more $4.80 $4.00 Lower fee!
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A_ZTrees
Morrison, TN
February 10, 2008
08:22 PM Post #4521353
| Above is what they get at ebay as of feb. 20th! If you had no listing fee a percentage would be just fine for all I am sure. In due time iwe can adjust to some changes but like most new auction/buy it now sites, free to start to see how many of interest. |
maggidew
(Maggi) Big Sandy, TX
(Zone 8a)
February 10, 2008
10:21 PM Post #4521861
| Listing fee - FREE to start/promote (later up to as much as .20 per item)
Gallery fee .05
Fixed price (store) final value fee 2%
Auction final value fee 3.5%
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lakesidecallas
Dandridge, TN
(Zone 6a)
February 10, 2008
10:32 PM Post #4521923
| I don't like the gallery fees. Most people expect to see a photo, often skipping auctions that don't have them.
That's why ebay is going to a free gallery (that's a photo next to the listing, by the way).
A lot of the plant photos on ebay have been taken from other sites that have professional photos. If DG charges for Gallery photos I think all photos should be property of the seller, like plant files. That also shows the seller grows the plant and knows something about it. |
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)
February 10, 2008
11:51 PM Post #4522415
| As a buyer, I'm not a huge fan of charging sellers to put a picture with their listing--I'd rather let them have that for free to encourage them to post a pic of what they're selling |
ViolaValley
Viola, TN
(Zone 6b)
February 11, 2008
12:40 AM Post #4522593
| Lets hope the photos are free for listings! Beautify DG auctions. Should be use of own photos though. Also, listing fees should be free for a while until established. Final fee percentage to Daves sounds like the route to take until we get further into it. Just checked out a few other sites and they do the same. Can't wait. Let us know if there is anything else we can assist you with. Sold on ebay for over 10 years now, and the website since last summer. How long do we think til it will start up? Spring is nearing and many are shopping now for spring shipments as well. Busiest time of the year! |
shellabella
West Central, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 11, 2008
09:53 PM Post #4526166
| I would rather see no listing fee ever or if absolutely needed a really low one. I think it would encourage more listings. I do agree with a fee for additional photos, but not a gallery photo. That one should be a given.
A % of final value could be 3% or more if there is no fee for Gallery or listing.
Looks like alot of buyers like Paypal and there will be a charge there too if aution is paid that way, and since E-Bay owns them too, who knows what they will do to those fees in the future.
If you had an idea of the average monthly sales/ listings of some of the most active sellers (not here, but private D-Mail) you could get a better idea maybe what to charge and how.
Just my 2cents.:)
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Dave67
New Port Richey, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 11, 2008
09:57 PM Post #4526193
| I think sellers need to be subscribers to DG.
Maybe buyers should be members as well.
No insertion or gallery fees.
Auction - final value fee 3%
Fixed price/ buy now - final value fee 2%
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dave
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
February 11, 2008
10:41 PM Post #4526463
| Definitely there will be no gallery fees. Additional photos will be free for now but that may change in the future if it's a burden on server resources. But the first image ("gallery image") will always be free.
A consensus here seems to be:
Fixed price ("Buy it now") final value fee 2%
Auction final value fee 3 to 3.5%
Everyone seems to agree that there should be NO listing fee. My only concern with that is that some people might abuse that by listing free auctions and then pulling them later. Are my fears unfounded?
dave |
twiggybuds
Moss Point, MS
(Zone 8b)
February 11, 2008
11:06 PM Post #4526595
| All that sounds great to me.
I think your fears are unfounded. If someone makes a listing and closes it early, I think you would be entitled to your final value fee. You could waive it if somebody claimed a house fire or hurricane for instance. I don't think anyone in their right mind would try to pull tricks and risk reputation and/or banishment. DG is too important to mess with.
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dave
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
February 11, 2008
11:11 PM Post #4526634
| Good point! |
shellabella
West Central, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 11, 2008
11:28 PM Post #4526734
| Ok, I hope I don't ruffle any feathers, I am still for a no listing fee, but I also want Dave and crew to make enough dough at this.
I didn't think about the possibility mentioned above of someone cutting their listing , but since you mentioned it, I also thought about something else. Listing something week after week and it doesn't sell because the item is too high priced or not something someone would buy.
Someone could put a very high price on something and not care or not realize it's too high, hoping someone would come along some day and pony up for that too high a price. It could also be an unpopular item we are talking about here.
In the field I work in... concrete art...prices are all over the place. Art is is hard to put a value on. I am not saying Art is not valuable, but I might think something is worth alot of money that I made because I saw something similar at Little and Lewis website .It may never sell cause it is way too high, it's darn ugly, and I am not a known artist.
Pricing something in that arena is difficult. If I were to pay a small listing fee then I would really work on my pricing the next time I went to list something that didn't sell, or make sure I have really great photos or better description, or maybe not relist it at all cause it's darn ugly ...lol!
Maybe having a small but reasonable listing fee would prevent someone from continuing to list something that just plain doesn't sell. You would never see any return for your work on something like that otherwise.
I don't know any DGers that would abuse the free listing, but some outsider might.
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ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)
February 11, 2008
11:37 PM Post #4526779
| Maybe DG subscribers could list for free, but everyone else would have to pay a listing fee? That should cut down on any kind of funny business. |
dave
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
February 11, 2008
11:38 PM Post #4526782
| That's a good idea! |
shellabella
West Central, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 11, 2008
11:43 PM Post #4526807
| yeah I like that too. |
glendalekid
Tuscaloosa, AL
(Zone 7b)
February 11, 2008
11:48 PM Post #4526836
| I think the person who would go to the trouble of listing with a free auction and then pull it would be rare. Listing the description, sellers terms, shipping charges, answering questions, and so forth is a lot of work and few people would take it on lightly, I would think. At least not for very long anyway.
I do think a small listing fee is fair. I feel that it should be the same for everyone. With eBay the problem is not the initial listing fee, it is the continuing listing fee. If the item does not sell (7-day or 10-day auction) and must relisted, there goes the fee all over again, and the seller may have to pay this several times before the item sells.
With store listings the listing fee is charged every 30 days until it sells or is pulled, plus eBay charges $15.00 and up a month for the store "rent." Most common "rent" is $50.00/month. It is these recurring auction listing charges and the store listings/rent that causes eBay to be too expensive for the little guy selling lower priced items. While eBay is going to have free gallery photos, they are also raising the Final Value Fees. Mine will be, for most items, going from 10% to 12%.
For most of us it's hard to realize how many times an item must be listed. Usually, there's nothing wrong with the item or the price -- just that the right person didn't yet see the listing. Charging only an initial listing fee will encourage those who have the more rare, but possibly slower moving, items. In the long run, I think this will be beneficial to all buyers by widening the buying choices/possibilities.
I suggest the final sale fee should be charged on sale price+shipping as it is the only way I've seen to discourage The Penny People. On eBay, charging a very small price and then a large shipping amount is referred to as "fee avoidance" and is an issue that eBay chooses not to address, although they freely admit it is a problem. However, I feel that a percent charged for final sale fees should be the same percent for everyone. To me, that would be more fair and the percent could be lower for everyone.
Karen
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BuriedTreasures
Valrico, FL
(Zone 9a)
February 12, 2008
12:33 AM Post #4526986
| Too build the market, base listing fees should be zero. This will make listing reasonable to the casual seller, and allow the busineeses to list more. More listing = more variety = more reason for the consumer to shop this venue.
Create front end revenue via add ons, but keep base listings free. Bold, gallery, home page, etc. Allows the commercial vendors an opportunity to be seen if they chose to spend the money.
Charge a tiered final value fee, based on total dollar value.
My .02 for the evening.
Chris |
dave
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
February 12, 2008
12:40 AM Post #4527011
| Okay, we're clear on that point: there will be no listing fee.
Chris (or anyone) what would you propose for a tiered final value fee?
dave |
BuriedTreasures
Valrico, FL
(Zone 9a)
February 12, 2008
09:47 AM Post #4527693
| These are Ebays final value fees.
Item not sold
No Fee
$0.01 - $25.00
5.25% of the closing value
$25.01 - $1,000.00
5.25% of the initial $25.00 ($1.31), plus 3.25% of the remaining closing value balance ($25.01 to $1,000.00)
Equal to or Over $1000.01
5.25% of the initial $25.00 ($1.31), plus 3.25% of the initial $25.01 - $1,000.00 ($31.69), plus 1.50% of the remaining closing value balance ($1000.01 - closing value)
I account for final value fees in my advertising budget, and these rates are inline with what I spend on advertising as a whole. Believe me, I'd love for it to be less, but I don't think this is out of line.
I do a lot of dutch auctions, so the total value of items sold is used to calculate my final value fee. If I list 15 curcuma @ $3.70 each, and 10 of them sell, the value of that auction falls into the $25 to $1000 range.
For DG, I don't think there will be a lot of $1000+ auctions, so you may want to make tiers a bit lower, ie...99-25, 26-50, 51-100 etc.
The fees are charged to my account immediately at auctions end, and should a buyer not come through and pay for it, I then have to go through a nightmare process of trying to get a credit. IN the end, I rarely ask for a credit, as the time involved doesn't justify it. Fifteen minutes of work at a minimum for a .50 credit is hardly worth it. Streamlining that would be nice.
Chris |
ViolaValley
Viola, TN
(Zone 6b)
February 12, 2008
09:53 AM Post #4527714
| Tiered listing fee would be great. I am all for it.
How about since we all pay the plant scout fees that all opt to "sell" do the same or as ecrane9 suggested above, charge the listing fees for the non plant scout (paying) members? That would bring in the extra set up costs and losses during the set up time for Dave. |
Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)
February 12, 2008
09:57 AM Post #4527731
| My guess is that most of the auctions will fall below $250 (probably the vast majority of them under $100, unless someone starts selling equipment or bigger garden decor and/or structures.)
I also agree with having the percentage calculated on final value (including shipping) - it takes away any incentive to artificially depress the auction bids and charge outrageous shipping fees. There may be another school of thought on that - and there may be some strong arguments against that approach.
If the range of final values is going to be pretty tight (few items running into the hundreds or thousands of dollars), wouldn't a straight/flat percentage be easier on everyone? (I've got degrees in accounting and finance, and yet I still shudder when I see ebay's and other auctions' multiple tiered fee structures.) |
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)
February 12, 2008
11:24 AM Post #4528052
| The only potential stumbling block I see with charging the fee based on total value of product + shipping is that the people who are selling heavier items end up effectively paying a higher fee percentage than someone who sells lighter items (someone selling plants rather than seeds, for example) As an example, I sometimes order ~3 gal size plants from some nurseries in Florida--the plant itself generally costs ~$30, but shipping on that size plant can run as much as $20 or so. If I order ~$30 worth of seeds from the same company, the shipping costs a few dollars. So the plant seller is going to end up paying almost twice the fee of the seed seller for the same amount of profit because their items are bigger and heavier.
I'm not sure of a good way to get around this though, if you don't include shipping in the fee then you wind up with the situation that exists on Ebay. The only other solution is to come up with what you consider to be "normal" shipping rates for different types of items, and not allow people to charge more than what's in the "normal" range for that type of product. That creates a lot of extra administrative work though so it's not a perfect solution either, plus depending on where things are getting shipped to and the exact size of the plant your range of normal cost is probably going to have to be pretty wide. |
glendalekid
Tuscaloosa, AL
(Zone 7b)
February 12, 2008
11:59 AM Post #4528180
| Some sites do have what they call a shipping matrix that is based on the weight of the item. There is a range (say, $5.00-$10.00, $10.00-$20.00 or whatever) and the seller can set up the listing using an amount within that range for that weight. They usually have several choices to pick from based on the shipping method, which for plants would probably be USPS Priority or UPS. Other items, garden art, gardening books, pots, etc., could use a matrix on First Class, International First Class, International Priority, Parcel Post, etc. There is also a range for choosing the amount to add for additional items, i.e., combined shipping also for each of the various shipping methods. Sellers in other countries also have their own matrix of shipping costs based their country's postage fees.
Maybe something like this could be used as a way around The Penny People -- $0.01 item+$20.00 shipping, for example (soon to be $1.00+$20.00 on eBay). The Penny People have to be sidetracked, in my opinion, as it is so unfair to the honest sellers who are paying an honest Final Value Fee on their sales and charging an honest shipping amount.
I realize this would take some research to set up, but the rates are all posted on USPS or UPS for the U.S. and no doubt there are similar web sites for other countries. An International matrix can be set up country by country when/if there is a request for one from a seller in that country.
Karen
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shellabella
West Central, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 12, 2008
12:43 PM Post #4528393
| I like the idea of NOT having a tiered value fee system...it makes it easier for everyone.
If shipping were going to be included in the fee that would eliminate the "fee avoidance " issue. Not sure if it's workable all around though even using a shipping matrix.
Right now e-Bay doesn't charge a final value on shipping, if you did, it would raise the amount of money paid per item in comparison and could almost be as expensive as E-Bay in some cases.
There are different shipping possibilities for items such as books, soaps and candles too. Plants usually always ship Priority Mail, but not other things. As a seller I would tend to only offer the cheaper slower methods of shipping for non plant items to save on final value fees. However if a customer wants the item shipped faster and more expensive then I have to pay more and have less profit? Doesn't seem, fair. One could figure in the % on top of shipping charges, but customers just don't like high shipping expenses, and they are high enough already and will probably go up more.
For most things we aren't talking about alot of money, but for heavier things, or bulkier items it could really eat into profits, or make the shipping too expensive for anyone to want to buy it.
I think this group would police "fee avoidance " pretty well with feed back or a reporting system of some sort.
To make things simpler is it possible to have a rule that vendors charge exact shipping plus a % for handling and materials and no final value fee on shipping? If there was a "report" it would be easy enough to have the vendor prove that he charged correctly and was not avoiding fees.
I don't know, this is a tough one to figure out,. I am not as experienced as some of the others here. :) |
gone2seed
Milton, FL
(Zone 8a)
February 12, 2008
02:26 PM Post #4528793
| The only way to go on postage is to let the seller set the price.I use priority mail and try to keep it as close to actual shipping as possible.A flat fee for shipping doesn't work,on auctions,because you would have to charge too much in order to cover shipping to the oposite coast.For instance,A Florida buyer might pay 4.50 for postage from us.A California buyer usually pays 8-10 dollars to ship the same plants.Buyers will quickly weed out those that overcharge on shipping.We can pay postage on website sales as the plants usually sell for a higher price and it evens out over time. |
gordo
Gulfport, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 12, 2008
02:50 PM Post #4528906
| Sellers have little choice when it comes to postage rates. The USPS set the rate, and we try to honestly estimate what the finished package will weigh. There have been times when I've spent 30 minutes or more wrapping a package securely for transit. I don't factor time into the equation.
I am outraged by sellers who use low bids and over-the-top shipping rates to give the illusion of a bargain.
Also, the FVF should be based on the actual sale, dis-cluding cost of postage and tax, if any. If the FVF comes from the total sale, including postage and tax, we would be paying a percentage of the fee on monies others will receive. |
shellabella
West Central, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 12, 2008
02:53 PM Post #4528917
| You have a great point Gordo and you are more concise than I am today! |
TeresaInCAL
Valley Springs, CA
(Zone 9a)
February 12, 2008
03:41 PM Post #4529098
| Sellers that are subscribers to DG should pay a flat rate of 3% no matter what the ending price is.
Fixed price/ buy now - final value fee 3%
Non member sellers can pay 4%, no matter what the ending price is.
Fixed price/ buy now - final value fee 4%
Final fee to only include ending selling price, not including shipping. (We already pay anywhere between 4-12 dollars to the PO to ship something, and sometimes that really hurts! Also the shipping costs are rising by the day...
Buyers should NOT have to be members
No insertion or gallery fees.
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Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)
February 12, 2008
03:45 PM Post #4529109
| Just like eBay, I think buyers (and sellers will have to register a username (i.e., they will be members.) Whether or not they subscribe is up to them. (Rewarding subscriber/sellers with a price break isn't a bad idea...as long as they can keep their eBay "hat" off when they come into the forums ;o) |
maggidew
(Maggi) Big Sandy, TX
(Zone 8a)
February 12, 2008
09:20 PM Post #4530659
| Re: Shipping
No on including shipping in final value fee.
It costs me $3.00 in gas alone to drive to the Post Office to send packages.
Yes, for those of you in town who DON'T work another job outside the home, and who don't have a mailbox beside a rural road in the middle of nowhere, etc., you can have packages picked up with prepaid postage, blah blah blah. I know all of that.
That doesn't work in my situation. I HAVE to drive to the PO to deliver the packages for shipment. I will charge slightly over the actual USPS postage because I have to partially defray that cost. I certainly don't charge an extra $3 for each package, more on the order of $1. I may be able to plan a trip that includes the PO and grocery store and Dollar store, thereby making the trip 'worth it'. These are things I have to take into consideration when selling plants or anything else that needs to be shipped out. And yes, I do specify that I ship plants on Monday and Tuesday only.
In addition, whereas shipping boxes and other supplies can be obtained free of charge from the USPS, some people elect to actually purchase some of their preferred shipping supplies. Some people, both buyers and sellers, prefer to have their plants shipped in the pot they have grown in as opposed to shipping bare root. More weight, higher cost.
Plants are priced fairly competitively on the internet and there is no practical way to make up the difference in actual shipping costs with an increase in the price of the plant.
Ken looks at it this way when he is thinking about selling/shipping peafowl: His time on the job is worth $25.00 an hour. To take the time off a paying job, come home, put birds in the shipping box and drive to the PO is worth at a minimum $50 for his time. The rarer peafowl are still commanding the price he needs to make that worth it on occasion.
My hourly wage is somewhat lower, but I think anyone who does this as a business understands the adage 'time is money'. |
gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
February 12, 2008
09:42 PM Post #4530808
| Please don't make this so complicated we can't use it. Charge whatever you need to for a percentage but don't get into shipping fees...this is too much bookwork for me...and I would love to be a part of this. The more bookwork needed the less inclined people will be to sell. Not all of us plant people are detail people. KEEP IT SIMPLE
***edited to say I live out in the middle of nowhere and a trip to the post office round trip is a lot of time away from work. I don't even have post office delivery out here.
This message was edited Feb 12, 2008 9:18 PM |
Seed_Sprout
Fountain, FL
February 12, 2008
09:52 PM Post #4530904
| I can't participate if FVF are taken out of the shipping charges. I am in the same boat as Maggi. Live in the middle of no where and no mail pick up. Some of our plants are too large for the USPS free boxes and we are having to purchase these for shipping and they aren't cheap! |
BuriedTreasures
Valrico, FL
(Zone 9a)
February 12, 2008
10:38 PM Post #4531248
| Fee avoidance is pretty obvious when it happens. Let the members police themselves, and those doing it will eventually be rooted out.
Tacking fees on shipping will only be passed on to the buyer, and starting up, you need both good sellers, and trusting buyers.
Chris |
summerkid
Rose Lodge, OR
(Zone 8b)
February 12, 2008
11:16 PM Post #4531433
| Please just keep the fees as low as you can, and as simple as you can. |
Seed_Sprout
Fountain, FL
February 12, 2008
11:25 PM Post #4531482
| We have always been fair on our shipping charges. On at least one package a week we end up on the losing side of shipping charges because the plant weighed more than we thought. I too hate it when an item is low priced and has ridiculous shipping charges. I don't care how badly I want an item, I will not buy it when the shipping charges are jacked up. |
gordo
Gulfport, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 13, 2008
01:27 AM Post #4532005
| It rained here today. Every 6" pot I've grown now weighs at least a pound more than when I listed it for sale. That's 4.60 less profit for me and 4.60 more profit for USPS.
Let there be drain!!! :-) |
dave
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
February 13, 2008
09:50 AM Post #4532552
| Here's a screenshot of the proposed fee schedule. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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threegardeners
North Augusta, ON
(Zone 5a)
February 13, 2008
09:52 AM Post #4532558
| Awesome!! |
Tntigger
Greeneville, TN
(Zone 6b)
February 13, 2008
10:21 AM Post #4532701
| Absolutely fantastic, thank you! |
mistygardener
Saint James, MO
(Zone 6b)
February 13, 2008
11:33 AM Post #4532976
| Looks just great to me, Dave!!! :) |
Marylyn_TX
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
February 13, 2008
11:35 AM Post #4532991
| That looks wonderful. |
Calif_Sue
San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)
February 13, 2008
12:12 PM Post #4533169
| Short, simple and to the point, I like it!
By the way, you have 8 D-mails you poor over worked man :-) |
gordo
Gulfport, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 13, 2008
12:14 PM Post #4533175
| I'm in love. Its beautiful.
Stay away from me, Dave... I'm attracted to brains.
(from an old lady gardener)...!!! :-) |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 13, 2008
12:18 PM Post #4533196
| Ok ... I've been lurking again - now I'm ready to start bidding and or buying! Can't wait for DG Auction to begin! |
Sashagirl
by the Muddy Miss, IA
(Zone 5a)
February 13, 2008
12:22 PM Post #4533212
| I love it. Clear and concise! Thanks Dave!
Sasha |
shellabella
West Central, FL
(Zone 9b)
February 13, 2008
12:27 PM Post #4533226
| This is Perfect! |
gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
February 13, 2008
01:55 PM Post #4533660
| Thank you Dave for simplicity. We really appreciate your dedication to this. |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA
(Zone 9b)
February 13, 2008
05:48 PM Post #4534555
| Yipeee! I'm jazzed. Thank you DAVE! |
gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
February 13, 2008
06:29 PM Post #4534688
| ZZsBabiez, I am jazzed and have no earthly idea what I am doing as I have never bought or sold on ebay! |
Riverland
Northeast, LA
(Zone 8a)
February 14, 2008
12:23 AM Post #4535982
| genius self policing Looks like you are getting some wonderful ideas. |
RatherBDigging
Akron, PA
(Zone 6b)
February 15, 2008
06:56 PM Post #4543605
| I like it too.
It is an incentive for more membership.
It is simpler, which while easier for everyone to understand, it must be easier on your end for programming.
Trying to get this off the ground in a short period to time, while trying to get it as clean as you possibly can will much easier for you to attain.
Leaving out the shipping is much more fair to every type of seller (i.e. the artist selling concrete). The membership would certainly send you a dmail if we saw the shipping fees being gouged. (I know I would.)
I certainly believe that buyers and sellers that are not members be allowed to participate. (Thanks for ours being free to list right now!) The auction will be a form of advertising indirectly to bring people to DG, and to all that it offers a member.
It will bring in more listings. It will bring in more bidders. Better for everyone, esp you too, Dave.
RatherB |
HaroldS
Glendale, AZ
February 17, 2008
04:12 PM Post #4551219
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This message was edited Feb 17, 2008 2:08 PM |
Marylyn_TX
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
February 17, 2008
05:06 PM Post #4551369
| Harold, Dave's screenshot says 3% excluding (not including) shipping charges. He's already said that sellers who overcharge on shipping will be taken care of quickly. :-) |
HaroldS
Glendale, AZ
February 17, 2008
05:09 PM Post #4551382
| OK Thanks! I edited my post. |
msrobin
Caneyville, KY
(Zone 6b)
February 17, 2008
07:40 PM Post #4551915
| Dave, perfect! I wouldn't want to have pay a FVF on shipping either. |
HaroldS
Glendale, AZ
February 17, 2008
10:23 PM Post #4552778
| Actually I find FedEx ground is often cheaper than USPS. I have a Kinko closer to me than I am to the post office and it is a whole lot quicker and never any line. You can compare prices via each on their sites. I always do and give my customers both prices with the option to choose. Generally FedEx beats the PO by including insurance up to $100, while you have to pay extra for insurance at the PO. Of course this is not a concern with plants. Be careful tho and use the correct form for FedEx ground, or you will get socked heavily if they ship by air. They charge extra for pick up too.
If mailing 500 miles or less, it is a waste of money to send Priority. It will go ground anyway, so might as well use parcel post. |
summerkid
Rose Lodge, OR
(Zone 8b)
February 17, 2008
10:26 PM Post #4552795
| Interesting info, Harold. Thanks! I thought I already knew everything about shipping ins & outs. |
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)
February 17, 2008
10:37 PM Post #4552841
| UPS is also often cheaper than USPS since the post office keeps raising their rates. I'm not sure who's cheaper between FedEx and UPS, but I know when I mail packages anymore I use one of those instead of priority mail. If you have a flat rate box and you cram it full of stuff then mail might still be cheaper but it's definitely worth investigating your other options. |
9kittymom
Bartlesville, OK
(Zone 6a)
February 18, 2008
01:13 AM Post #4553639
| If this has been covered, I apologize for asking again.
What duration are the auctions? A week? If it is a real auction, it has to have a limited time or you would never have a winning bidder. If Fixed price though, do you have to keep relisting it?
Either way is fine with me, I'm used to that on ebay anyway.
I have another question but I should put it in the what can be sold thread I guess.
Thanks
Susan
=^..^= |
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA
February 24, 2008
03:24 PM Post #4582495
| There are so many threads right now!!! Will there be a summary that will cover the whole project? that would be nice. bellieg |
Charlotteda
Pickens, SC
(Zone 7a)
February 24, 2008
08:11 PM Post #4583682
| I like it ! |
maggidew
(Maggi) Big Sandy, TX
(Zone 8a)
February 25, 2008
07:39 PM Post #4587917
| It would be worth your time to read the discussions. |
Marylyn_TX
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
February 26, 2008
03:56 PM Post #4591676
| I'm sure there will be a summary when it is up and running. :-) |
