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Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

Sorry Terry, but you made the Thread Name too Easy not to use! :o)
I am hoping to get replies from those of you who CAN GROW ANY Tropical Plant in the COLDER climates with GOOD results. I would like to get a list going of what has been tried and failed/succeeded in your area, what your climates are NORMALLY like, etc....This is for those of us who want to PUSH the ZONE and have our own little PARADISE, even though we do not LIVE in PARADISE. :o)

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Hedychium coronarium grows beautifully in Portland, Or. - in the snow. Mulched heavily, in a warm corner by a wall.

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

Thanks Carol, now I just need to come up with a way to keep a 'running list' of names so as not to jump back and forth through posts to try to remember what people said! :o)

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

I am reserving this spot to place the names of plants that are given to be 'more hardy' and might survive in our colder Climates. I am trying to keep up with names people are giving, but I am not able to find all of them in plant files, so please be sure to look at other's lists to make sure something isn't missed! :)


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Saint Cloud, MN(Zone 4b)

I am the wrong person to ask!! LOL-I try to grow everything-no matter how much work it takes...I am sure by this fall I wil be sticking to perennials for my zone only!!! :o)

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

NEVER on ALL counts Miss Robbi! LOL :o)

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

Wow, 30 views, and only two other people posting besides myself? Come on people, help us out here, please! :o)

Corning, NY(Zone 5a)

Wish I could help you out:)Anita

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

Well, you stick around and we can both learn! :o)

Corning, NY(Zone 5a)

;)I am, I thought you may have had an answer, but it was just you posting. I'll be right here with you!

Louisville, KY

Here is a rough list of some plants I have over wintered in zone6 some of these get protection each year with either mulching or other forms of protection a few have survived with no protection once established.

Amaryllis 2 species some hybrids
Amorphophallus Henryi
Amorphophallus Kerrii
Amorphophallus Konjac
Colocasia Big Dipper
Colocasia Gigantea
Colocasia Pink China
Colocasia Black Pearl
Crinums I am growing 4 forms
Ecomuis forms
Musa Basjoo
Musa Becarii
Musa Itinerans
Musa Rajapuri
Musa Sikkimensis (hookerii)
Musa Textilus
Musa Thomsonii
Musa Velutina
Musella Lasiocarpa
Agavie Perri forms
Opuntia Sp Hardy Yellow Flowers
Petasites hybridus
Petasites Japonicus Var. Giganteus
Petasites Purple Leaf
Pinellia Tripartita
Tetrapanax Papyriferus
Thaila Delbata
Trachycarpus (Hayes Stiffie) Possible Hybrid
Trachycarpus fortunei (Atlanta)
Sabal Palms
Yucca Rostrata Many other yuccas
Their are others like Bamboos a few begnoias and many cactus type plants if the drainage is good.

Here is my mothers yard. Her yard is like a big experiment she is given certain possible hardy tropical plants each year and test them to see how they preform for her. She takes nothing inside but does mulch the plants up every fall. I have more photos of the place when it's mulched up and dormant.

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Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

LOL Anita! The 4th post down is where I will be posting the ones that are told to be 'hardy' in colder climates. :o)

Blyth, ON(Zone 5b)

Hi there. I don't know if you consider this a tropical plant, but I have overwintered Musa basjoo in the ground in zone 5b - sort of :-) See this post for details http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4573863

You may already know this too, but in Southwestern Ontario (Point Pelee) Canada we have native Opuntias, one of which is O. compressa. Perfectly and completely hardy at least to zone 4b.


Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

Hi Ginny, thanks for the info! I have already added the Musa Basjoo in the 4th post, but will be sure to check out the ones you talked about! :o)

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

I couldn't bring anything up for the "Opuntias"? I was able to find it with the Latin Name you gave, however.

(Cathy), MO

Hi everyone. I will be watching this thread also. And looking up plants like mad, as people name them! :-) Good idea Princess Tammy!

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

Thanks Miss Cathy! OOPS I almost put the wrong name there! LOL :o)

Magna, UT(Zone 7a)

I have tried growing Wandering Jew (Tradescantia zebrina), although it was pretty, I guess my house wasn't. So it wandered out of my pot to the unknown. I couldn't keep it healthy so I gave it to my mother who supposedly has a green thumb, and she promptly killed it. For someone that has bad luck with house plants, does any one have any suggestions? I can grow a thin leafed, trailing type fern pretty well.

Magna, UT(Zone 7a)

Has anybody grown Cycas circinalis?

Lindsay, OK(Zone 7a)

This realy interests me a lot.. I am moving from zone 8a to some 7a/6b this year and really really realy love and want to keep my tropical yard!

TabacVille, NC(Zone 7a)

Hiya Tammy. If you think that I shouldn't worry since I'm living in a zone that's much warmer...wrong..at times it'll be zone 7!!
So, thanks for doing this, likewise will keep a tab on all the names given.

Bucyrus, OH(Zone 6a)

Bwilliams is a great resource for you. Another user to check out is hikaro_takayama. The following things grow outside for me here in 6A/5B, given siting close to a foundation or a fence with no other protection:

jasminum x stephanense, Stephan's jasmine
gelsemium sempervirens, Carolina jessamine "Margarita"
dioscorea oppositifolia, cinnamon vine
yucca rostrata "Blue Skies"
albizia julibrissin, mimosa
pawlonia tomentosa, empress tree
poncirus trifoliata, Japanese bitter orange
phyllostachys aureosulcata, yellow grove bamboo
mirabilis jalapa, four o'clock (returns from the roots)
opuntia humifusa, eastern prickly pear

I rake leaves over:

musa basjoo, basjoo banana
rhaphidophyllum hystrix, needle palm

I had a gardenia jasminoides "Kleim's Hardy" make it through the winter with protection. I killed it by pulling it (I thought it was dead) before it could recover from the roots. :(

I also planted two generic lagerstroemia indica crape myrtles, in a decent location, and had them come back from the roots, but they were too small when I planted them, their root systems never stood a chance at recovering, and they were too dry. They lasted two seasons. L. indica "dynamite" shows good hardiness. That's my next crape myrtle victim. You should be able to easily grow most crape myrtles as die back perennials, as well as several hardier crape myrtles with no appreciable loss of limbs.

Trachycarpus fortuneii thrives for some. I gave it a good location, and some protection. It went into decline. This winter, its third season in Ohio, and its sixth year on the planet, it spent inside, in seclusion. It desperately needed a break.

This year I am adding two sabal minor "McCurtain" palmettos, gardenia jasminoides "Chuck Hayes", hippeastrum johnsonii hardy amaryllis, and a few other tropic-like plants.

The "tropic-like" plants I want to add include:

magnolia macrophyllum, big leaf magnolia
ligularia stenocephala, Japanese ligularia
euphorbia cyathophera, summer poinsettia
dracunculis vulgarum, voodoo lily
arum italicum, Italian arum
arisaema triphyllum, Jack in the Pulpit
arisaema candidissimum, cobra lily
passiflora caerulea or passiflora lutea, hardy passion flower
akebia quinata, five-leafed akebia
actinidia kolomikta, Arctic beauty kiwi
asarum arifolium, evergreen ginger

You might also want to check out the Ackerman hybrid camellias (stressbaby suggested these to me.)

Araucaria aruacaria, the monkey puzzle tree, might make it, as might chilopsis linearis, desert willow, which I have heard is hardy to Colorado Springs, CO. Check here, 2Lazy2P , http://members.aol.com/fitzroya/2Lazy2Prareplants.html for information correlating drought-resistance to cold-hardiness in otherwise "tropical" species.

Weedsfree, I have checked out the cycads as a possible palm substitute. Cycas circinalis absolutely needs tropical conditions all the time. The Florida coontie, zamia pumila, might make it into zone seven, but from my research I don't think most cycads can go much lower than zone 8. I welcome being corrected by someone.


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Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

WOW, I go away for a bit and here all you are!!!! I am so tickled to see all of you here and REALLY appreciate all your input!!!! I don't have time to do all the links right now, but I will do my best to get links for these and post them in the 4th posting on here. SO SO glad you all joined in!!!! :o)

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

Well this is a very exciting thread!! I got big plans for my little yard.

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

Be sure to save room for those EE's now Kim!!! :o)

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

No worries got a spot for everything ;*)

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

GOOD! :o)

Tuscaloosa, AL(Zone 7b)

Hi All,

I have some brugs outside this winter. I cover them when a cold night is predicted. They did lose their leaves, but were doing fine until -- my daughter's blasted dogs trampled all over them. I saw the other day that one of them is putting new leaves out from the bottom. I do think the others are still alive, but they sure are shorter than they were.

Here are some sites that list cold-hardy palms info:




Interesting advice on cold-hardy palms:


Here's a nursery in SC with a lot of cold-hardy plants, including palms:



PS: I tagged this thread so I can find it again. Love this info -- just great!

Photo of a brug last summer in downtown Tuscaloosa. I saw it the other day. Didn't appear to me that anybody covered it or protected it with anything. It is leafless, but it's clearly been there for several years.

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Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

WOW, thanks for all that info,, and the gorgeous pic, Karen!!! :o)

Tuscaloosa, AL(Zone 7b)

Oh, I forgot to mention my daughter's passiflora. I don't remember the name, but it's the ordinary blue one. From a very small plant, it grew huge last year, covering a four-foot trellis about 10 feet in each direction. We've had night time temps down into the teens, and it never even lost a leaf.


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Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

WOW, I didn't even know what a passiflora was till now. That is quite an interesting plant, Karen! :o)

TabacVille, NC(Zone 7a)

Giving you some hope with all these info, eh Tammy? Some modified tropical paradise without leaving home.

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

Yes Dear Jaye, it sure is! :o) The response has been amazing and I am very greatful! Now just to keep up with em all! LOL Well, I might have to leave home once in a while to make a trip to buy one of these purties!!!

Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Well seems to me you have got your hands full with a lot of exciting links from some very knowledgeable people who know there cold hardy plants!!!!!
Whats exciting to me is the people who can remember the names of all these plants!!!
I'm the person who forgets another persons name 30 seconds after they told me,don't know why but names of people as well as plants,won't stay put in my mind!!!!!
I have to hear them several times over for them to stick!
Lots of great info here,I hope a lot more people will come and gather this free information!!!

TabacVille, NC(Zone 7a)

Hey Don! You are too modest!!! All that info you keep sharing with us on tropicals, don't come from an 'addlepated' brain!!! (Stressing with love, not mockery)
Then the icing on the cake, this Tropicman can cook too!

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

Hey, there is our Sweet Tman!!! So glad to see you here!!!! ♥
Now Don, are you one of those that has to scroll back to see what that particular persons name was till you get it memorized? HA HA HA Guess I kinda told on myself, didn't I? :o)
Jaye, what on earth is "addlepated"??? My pea brain just don't get all these big words you all use! LOL Oh yes, he can cook and he rubs it in our faces all the time, too! HE HE HE

TabacVille, NC(Zone 7a)

ADJECTIVE: 1. Befuddled; confused. 2. Eccentric; peculiar
Tammy, we know Don is none of that!

Saint James, MO(Zone 6b)

HMMMMMMMMMMM kinda like discombobulated! HE HE HE
Nope, Don is none of that! ♥

Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Hmmm,Now whose the hillbilly here????
Youall using those big words that I can't even pronounce!!!!!
When I use the word rub,I mean the dry barbecue I rub on a side of beef before I put her in the smoker!!!LOL
Then just before it's ready to come out of the smoker,I pour on the liquid barbecue,to moist in her up,hmmm sounds like I'm sweet talking my way into a womans heart!!!!LOL
Ole saying a way to a womens heart is by starting at the stomach and working your way up!
You got to get to the heart,before she has a chance to think with her b rain!!!!!LOL
Love you guys,heading for the showers,or the coach won't let me in the game!!!!!

Louisville, KY

LOL I hope you score. Will b Rootin for ya!

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