Watersorb: anyone want to try this along with me?

Mesilla Park, NM

I posted this in the Xeriscape forum, because I don't really know where it belongs. But, I think we could try something like this out. If anyone here is willing to try some, I'll send at least five people a couple of tablespoons of watersorb crystals to try it.


Here's my idea: here goes.

After purchasing 15 #s of watersorb crystals, I wanted to see how long they took to hydrate and then how long it took to dehydrate. (a couple of hours to hydrate and 3 days to dehydrate back to their original size)... Well, the rest in the bucket had been in there for about a week and today I decided to plant all of my plugs (coneflowers etc..) and decided to use the bucket with the jelly water crystals. Then I usually use superthrive any time I transplant, so I added a couple of drops to my bucket with the crystals so the roots would not go into shock.

That got me to thinking... maybe I should add the superthrive to the water BEFORE it is absorbed by the cystals, then that also got me to thinking, it that works, why not add fish emulsion to the water too, and the plants could be getting fertilized also. This could really work to getting the plants established. Not only keeping them moist, but also fertilized..

Is this too easy or what? I love it, but do not know if it will work. I'm going to try it in a couple of my pots and see what happens.

Eureka, CA

It makes sense!! My climate is such that I've never tried (and probably don't need) the crystals (although ya never know!). Hopefully someone will come along and chime in and share the experiment with you.

Sanna

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

Hi Gourd,

I`d try them out. You know my addy. Another question is I need step by step insructions on how to wet the crystal and on how much dirt to how much crystal and so on.

Thanks!

Karen

Gardiner, ME(Zone 5a)

I'll give it a shot since I am gung ho into learning about the MG's.

Mesilla Park, NM

Alrighty,

Sannajane & Eglantyne d-mail me your addresses..

I'll wait till Monday night to see if anyone else wants to try these crystals. Will mail them on Tuesday..

If this works, it will save us a lot of time. I'll probably post the instructions on here. Does everyone have some kind of liquid/powder fish emulsion and superthrive? Also, powdered kelp (dried seaweed) can be used in the water. We can use whatever we have.
Sannajane, it may work in that it will save you a step from watering and fertilizing less. Especially if you grow in pots and the fertilizers usually drain out thru the bottom.

I wonder how it will work out?


Eureka, CA

I'll give it a try! I do a lot of containers, so it sounds neat. I'll dmail my address.

Sanna

northeast, IL(Zone 5a)

Hi,
If you need anyone else to try, I would be willing. Have lot's of new MG's to try this year!!

Deb

Mesilla Park, NM

Okay,

we got 4 so far and we'll wait for 2 more people.. I'll update this post. gosh if this works we can save alot of time and money. If it doesn't we'll probably kill the poor plants.




Sannajane
Gardener2005
Eglantyne
momcat

Summerville, SC(Zone 8a)

Sounds like a great idea and I'm sure it would work.

I'm still curious about seeing how long it takes the crystals to dehydrate in soil .. back to my original concern, wondering if the crystals would take water from the surrounding soil. I think it's an osmosis thing .. would the crystals be the greater or the lesser or the soil be the greater or lesser? At what point would they switch?

X

Mesilla Park, NM

Yeah, I'm wonder that too, poor chickens..lol.. all I can picture is them getting bloated every time they drink water. or, maybe they only take up liquid, not moisture.. I've got to figure out how to try that.. I may put a bunch of wet paper towels in a baggie and put the dry crystals on the paper towels and see if they wick out the moisture from them.. if they do not, then .. it may just be liquids they take in.

HENDERSON, NV(Zone 9a)

I have always been nervous nelly about using the crystals, and at the same time curious as heck! I would love to try it here in Vegas~I have, lol~ this is embarassing, CINDERBLOCKS that I use to grow some of my MG's in~ if the crystal prove their worth, it would save a LOT of running around to the backside of my place for watering every morning and afternoon; I have to water twice a day in summer, whether in pots or the ground. Gourd, count me in & I will watch for instructions, if this get to ya in time~
fernman23

Mesilla Park, NM

fernman,

ooh, don't be embarrassed, I planted a whole bunch of dwarf iris in cinder blocks too, so the gophers wouldn't get them, but something ate them anyway. Then I used a whole bunch of those plastic coffee cans that have that handle..

When I lived in Moreno Valley (low desert) it got 117 degrees in the summers for a couple of weeks straight.

We made this thing like a frame with some of that shade cloth to shade the plants, then we draped it over one of the arbors for shade. How hot does it get where you are? send me your address.

The other thing that the crystals are used for are those neck packs to keep you cool in the heat. They make and send the packets to the soldiers in Iraq. I'll post the link later on today for the instructions on how to make the tube and then put the crystals in it.. then sling it around your neck.. I may make a couple for this summer.. they probably would make good vacation travel items. You could soak them when you got to where you were going...

boy.. lots of neat ideas for these things.


edited some spelling errors..

This message was edited Mar 16, 2008 2:29 PM

Summerville, SC(Zone 8a)

You could always make a necklace of Always mini pads! ;-)

Mesilla Park, NM

That's true, we could call them "Cool Period!"

here's a link with some DG discussion and i'll go get the link the company has also and they also discuss the diaper crystals and Always pads too..

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/691520/

I'll be darned if I can find the post with Watersorb site, but will go find it and add it later.

Mesilla Park, NM

I just saw my lousy spelling up there, I must have been typing like a bat ...out of you know where... sometimes I think faster than I type and talk..lol

Mesilla Park, NM

okay, here is the watersorb site..

http://www.watersorb.com/

they also claim it could be used for crafts, I don't know which ones, but it sounds interesting.

I'm thinking it might make a great additive to my concrete creations, if it leaves a gap when it dries out, I might be able to make my planting holes (kinda like the swiss cheese holes) right into the concrete/hypertufa mix.. boy.. what next??? when the crystals dry, I'll have holes left to put some hens and chicks in there.

look a this: you can even make snow: http://www.watersorb.com/crafts.htm

This message was edited Mar 16, 2008 2:38 PM

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

Hey, I`ll do a experiment. I`ll use the same dirt in two pots exept incorporate the crystal concoction in one of them. I don`t want to use the fish emulsion because it will attract critters like opossum and racoons and they will wreck the wire cages and dig in my plants. I would use the superthrive or miracle grow fertilizer. I have to water every other day and only get a break if we get a good rain and then I still go check the pots to make sure they all got enough water. Maybe this would give me a extra day or two between watering. Karen

Mesilla Park, NM

Karen, that is a good idea..

You guys use what you would normally use and keep an eye on your plants, see if they need any less attention than what your normally do.

If I can get all the addresses, I'll send them off tomorow..

X.. would you like some just to check them out ?? let me know and I'll send you a package also.

A.

Mesilla Park, NM

Karen, that is a good idea..

You guys use what you would normally use and keep an eye on your plants, see if they need any less attention than what your normally do.

If I can get all the addresses, I'll send them off tomorow..

X.. would you like some just to check them out ?? let me know and I'll send you a package also.

A.



Edited to add:

fernman, Need your address when you get a chance... D-mail it to me.
A.

HENDERSON, NV(Zone 9a)

LOLROTF....cool period indeed, omg. sigh breathe....i think i dmailed the address to you, Gourd, if not, its delerium from all those possible uses for the crystals. The snow could be a great prank for someone! oh man....i gotta get outta the hoemfront to store and grocerize...yes, plug up the holes with succulents! Brilliant!!!! Its been 128 here, Henderson is 13 miles from Vegas, and this may or may not comeas a shock to y'all but the weather peeps lie when they report the local temperatures here ~can you say tourism?. It's always hotter than they say ~and Henderson is a few miles out of the 'big city' but its weather is slightly different, colder in winter only by 4-6 degrees, but looking at a freesing point...it could matter! That Necklace mental image is gonna get me laughing at the store and i will get a few stares....bought them before for co-workers, so could care less!...spelling errors? bugger it. There's a study that was done that showed the percentage of actual needed correct letres taht shwod what was needde to meka things understndable, lol.
:Darren
fernman23

Mesilla Park, NM

Darren,
no, I dont' have your address.. I got everything ready ... send it ..plz.

I understood everything your wrote.. I like that...

Mesilla Park, NM

Oh, man, I've driven thru Henderson a couple of times... one was in the early 70's in a little Honda that got like 50 some miles to the gallon... no air conditioner and man was it hot... I could of used those necklaces then.

It does get hot there, I know what you mean about them lying... You need to invest in some shade cloth.. it really does help (some).

Summerville, SC(Zone 8a)

Gosh Gourd .. having a deja vu moment there .. Thanks for the offer .. but let someone else have the package .. too much going on here as it is ...

I was also wondering if I mixed up crystals in p-nut butter and the squirrels at it, would they explode?

X

Mesilla Park, NM

I don't know, could be..lol. I wish I had thought of that for the gophers..lol.. I bet it could work, I know squirrels like dogfood, so maybe mixing the dog food in the peanut butter, then sticking the crystals it .. but I still think that the crystals need solid liquid to expand.. Ummm..

Gardiner, ME(Zone 5a)

I just noticed that You might want to just include members in hot areas ? if so I'll pass.PLMK

Mesilla Park, NM

It's for everyone... we could all use the information from several areas.. So your area is good. no problem here.. already packed and ready to go.. Also, you can all take your time because we each have different growing seasons too. Post updates when you feel like it or when you can, also, you don't have to grow MGs, just use whatever you have going.

A.

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

X, You are too funny. Have you ever had squirrel dumplings? I`m serious my Grandma made them with no bones(didn`t say anything at first *Noooo!*) and it really did taste like chicken and dumplings. Then she told me after I ate half of it.

Karen

scio, oregon, OR(Zone 8a)

I have never eaten squirrel, but DH and I had a crock pot rabbit for dinner last night. That was pretty adventurous for us.

Mesilla Park, NM

Just got back from the PO.. they are all on the way..



Squirrel for dinner? anyone?? lol. No, i haven't eaten squirrel, but , I have eaten Bear meat, along with deer, chicken, turkey, goat, lamb, pig, rabbit, and rooster..lol, maybe even quail, I'm not sure. Those little hens they sell for one person only, the one's that look like mini-turkey's.

When I lived in South America they had these things that looked like huge rats, peeled on the sides of the road, all stacked up like wood. They cooked them head and all.. it sure smelled good, but...yuck.. same way with the fish, head, eyeballs and all.

The soup was made from the chicken heads and feet.. yuck.. it must be an acquired taste!

A.

northeast, IL(Zone 5a)

Hi Gourd,

I received my crystals in the mail today. I am just starting my MG seeds now, so it will be a little bit before I have any big enough to transplant.

Thanks for including me in your experiment!!

Deb

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

I got mine too. I`ll wait and fix some pots up in April.

Right now, all have is a handful of pots I can wisk back in the house if it gets cold at night. I also started a whole bunch of seeds in 4 inch pots but all are easily replaceable if something goes wrong. Hopefully all will go well and I can be potting them up in April.

I`m waiting until April 15 when there is no risk unvolved to start Beth`s Monet seeds though they`d probably be just fine. :)

Karen

This message was edited Mar 19, 2008 8:41 PM

Gardiner, ME(Zone 5a)

dto..I received mine as well.That was quick,from NM to Maine in 2 days.

Will have to wait a little while longer until the temperatures around here warm up.If you believe it or not we had snow/rain today grrrrrr

Thank you Antoinette ,will keep you posted,
Brigitte

HENDERSON, NV(Zone 9a)

man wassup with the USPS, they are actuallt working quick. 2 days to maine?
A~MAINE~zing
...sorry, carpe joke...
fernman

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

I know just the spot where I`ll put my two test subjects one with crystals the other without. It is a spot where the pots dry quicker than all the others to the point of being a problem by June. Karen

Mesilla Park, NM

It's good to hear that you received the packets... I just guessed at the amount, so if you need to soak more, just use your judgment.. also, the crystals should stay moist for a very long time, because when you already have them hydrated and water your plant thoroughly when you transplant, they basically will stay like that for alot longer than the 3 days I had them out of the soil to see how long they took to dry up, they were in an open bowl.. with the air and elements hitting it 24/7..

Do, the ones in the pots should stay moist basically (throughout the life of the plant) from what I read on the other posts, it just keep rehydrating..


Thanks for trying this out, it will be interesting . I'll be using mine in about three weeks when I transplant the Feb 27 seedlings into the 3 gallon pots. I'm going to try them in more than half the pots (at least 100 pots will have these crystals) if they do well, the next batch will also have crystals in every pot. Some will have fert/bloomboosters/superthrive and some will not.. so I'll have alot of different areas to keep my eye on. If it works it will be worth it to me for the next few years, after than I plan to retire with a pina colada..lol Hey, if this works, maybe we can have a pina colada this year..

HENDERSON, NV(Zone 9a)

I found another use for them~kinda odd and personal, but I took home-cut flowers to the Veterans cemetary for my Dads spot today for Easter, early. I bet they help the cut flowers stay hydrated longer too. Hmmmm....? Cut flowers are yet another possibility! I put some in the direct southwest side of my front porch as well as a handflul of other spots today~that will HAVE to help as the vines there are ALWAYS limp when its midday~!!!
thanks Gourd!~
fernman23

Mesilla Park, NM

did you soak the cyrstals first? They look like ice .. huh..

Mesilla Park, NM

P.S.

What a nice thing to do for your Dad..

A.

HENDERSON, NV(Zone 9a)

You bet, I put 2 in a jar just to watch, and then followed instructions, on the planters I have them set up in outside~ 5 planters now. When i get the next seed packet i will use some then too. No exploding soil, lol : ) Again, I am real hopeful abou the afternoon heat getting beat back by these! Thanks!
fernman

Eureka, CA

Got mine today!! Thanks so much! This weekend I'll have time to get them going..... looking forward to it. I will keep "meticulous" records.... ha-ha....

Sanna

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