What do you do with an old shower door?

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

I have never spent much time on this forum so ya'll don't know me, but I have a shower door that I need to find a use for. It's safety glass I assume, and not clear. It looks kind of like rain on a window I think. It's framed in old cypress. DH doesn't want to give it away, but I don't want it leaning on the bathroom wall in front of the window any more. A year is long enough.lol It might be great as part of a gh, but we have a gh already. I thought about making a cold frame, but there's no room left in the yard to do that. I doubt that DH would let me break it to do mosaic stuff. What do I do with this door? Thanks in advance for your ideas.

Mary Lee

mulege, Mexico

I think the door needs to have an accident.

kb

Hulbert, OK(Zone 7a)

I'm with Katie. Wouldn't that be a shame to get the shower door all
nice and clean, then it accidentally falls on the floor, then you drop
a bowling ball on top of it, accidentally, of course? ;-)

Shame to waste all those beautiful pieces of glass, especially if
the door is tempered. (snort)

Gee, ya wouldn't want to waste it. Hmm. Bowling ball and tempered glass.
Hmm.

Oops! Gee hubby, look what happened.

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

LOLOL Seriously though, when you break tempered glass doesn't it shatter into a million pieces? Wouldn't they be long and pointed and too small for mosaic?

mulege, Mexico

No no no. Tempered glass is being used for some beautiful mosaics.

See deviant deziners thread (and blog) in the Garden Design Forum. She won Best of Show in San Franscisco. A mosaic made of tempered glass was the centerpiece.

Check it out.

katiebear

Hulbert, OK(Zone 7a)

Hi Silver,

I'll gladly send you a handful of tempered glass so you will know what to
expect. It is such fun to work with!

KM

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

Wuvie. I just read part of Deviant Dezigner's thread. It sounds like a really involved project. I guess maybe a starter project might be covering a clay pot? I work pretty much 7 days a week. We are self employed and time and money are the same thing. We can spend our time making money or playing, but playing doesn't make money. If I break this door, I'll have lots of pieces, probably enough for quite a few pots. I was also thinking it would be really pretty to combine the mirror pieces with blue marbles or tile or something. One thing I do already have is the mask and goggles because we have a wood shop

mulege, Mexico

A frame for a mirror or picture is another good small project.

kb

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

Maybe I mis-read the thread, but was she using resin to stick the pieces on or just in between after they were stuck?

mulege, Mexico

I think the glass is attached with glue. To be sure, I suggest you send deviant deziner a dmail. She's very nice about sharing information.

kb

Hulbert, OK(Zone 7a)

Hi Fluter,

Actually Katie mentioned Deviant's projects. ;-) Katie, glad you did,
I loved checking out the projects.

But yes, you are right, a bit much for a beginner. Don't feel bad, I work
full time with a commute and work at home, so project time is very limited.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/803136/

Link to one of the discussions.

Quoting:
We can spend our time making money or playing, but playing
doesn't make money


Ah, but this is why one incorporates doing what you love with making money.
This type of project would sell out at craft shows, garden shows, etc. Some
people have money but no time or they think they have no talent, so they are
happy to pay for unique items like tempered glass art.

Have fun AND make money.

:-)

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

Oh, I do understand the idea of having fun and making money. Our business is custom furniture and cabinets and I very much enjoy working with wood and discovering the beauty within. We make our living at it and also enjoy it. But by the time I get home between 6 and 9 pm I am very tired. So big projects just don't happen. Small simple projects eventually happen. I just got back from an RU and brought back 30 to 40 plants. I'm getting them planted 2 and 3 at a time. Today I really should have gone to work, but it's supposed to be a drizzly week, so I'm trying to get stuff in the ground before the rain.

I'll read the thread you posted a link to. The advantage I might have over some people is that we have a shop where I can do stuff like that and not take up space in the garage.

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

I'm wondering if I should start a new thread about using this glass on clay pots. I have some plants that should be in a really nice clay pot. Is there already a thread about this? I don't know if this requires special supplies and technique.

Should I post the new thread in this forum or in the Garden Design forum?

This message was edited Apr 20, 2008 1:55 PM

Mesilla Park, NM

The other thing you could use it for is to make the top of a coldframe for the plants in the winter.. They would get just enough diffused light to survive.

I bet it would work on clay pots, but you would probably have to seal them before you glue anything to them because they are so porous, that they would retain even moisture/humidity in the air. There is a black paint that is used for airconditioning ducts that works well to seal clay.

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

Ah, yes I was wondering about painting the pot first. Purple or blue would be my first choice, but if black is the only option, then black it is.

I would like to build a cold frame, but the only place left in the yard where I could do that is taken up by a bath tub that DH planted his horseradish in. I really didn't want him to do that, but it's already there and too much trouble to move.

Decorating a pot would be more fun anyway.:) So after I paint it what do I use to attach the pieces? Is there already a thread discussing this? And after I do this can this pot be left outside for the winter? When we have a freeze I don't want the glass to come popping off. What's that paint called Gourd?

Mesilla Park, NM

It's called Submarine cooler coating and comes in a spray can or in a pint can that you can brush on, normally, the pots are painted/coated inside, so that the moisture doesn't go into the clay which causes the freeze and thaw, which in turn causes the cracks. You will probably have to do both, because you don't want anything to cause the mirror/glass to fall off on the outside.

Also, they do sell this liquid the color of milk, that is just for this purpose, but, it is very expensive and it just leaves a thin film coating when you paint it on. They do sell it at the box stores too.

I've used all three, the spray can, seemed to me to run out faster, than the painted version, but that didn't last me long either because I had a lot of pots.




Also, you may want to use that bathtub to heal in plants in the winter and use the shower door as a lid to the tub.

Henderson, NC(Zone 7b)

I've just been given a set of shower doors too and I know I'll have 1 bowling ball from it.
Faye

Phoenix, AZ

"It looks kind of like rain on a window I think. It's framed in old cypress."

I guess I have a different view of the door, especially since it's framed with wood. I think I would clean it up, maybe give the wood frame a light sand and polish (cypress has to be beautiful) and hang it horizontally as an accent in the garden. You could paint a garden scene along the lower edge for further interest. Or, you could hinge two panels with fabric inserts, one on each side of the door and make the 'rainy glass' door into a room divider screen. Once again, you could use paint to create a scene.

Hillsborough, NC(Zone 7b)

Tomato
I was about to suggest the same thing until I read your post and saw that you beat me to it! I think it would be lovely hanging off an arbor horizontally...or against a garden house..sun shining through.

Of course ..if there WERE an accident (I'd try to prevent that tho in favor of the hanging art) The BATHTUB might benefit from some glass mosaic along its edge.

Silver - any chance you or hubby can turn it into a table? It might be quite lovely framed in wood with wooden legs.

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

Hmmm. Some very good ideas that I hadn't thought of. I like the idea of hanging it from the rose arbor except that the arbor is not tall enough to hang the door horizontally. Even I would hit my head and I'm 5'2".:)

Getting the wood off might be a problem. We have saws in the shop, but wouldn't the vibration from the saw break the glass? The edges of the glass are sealed with silicone, so we would have to cut it off.

At one time we were talking about incorporating the tub into our pond system. We were going to dig a hole if the ground deep enough for the tub and have the water cascade from the pond we already have into the buried tub. Sounds weird but I think it would have worked. If we had done that, then there would have been room for a small cold frame. I hadn't thought of using the tub as a cold frame. Wonder if I could ever get all the horseradish roots out of that dirt.

Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX(Zone 8b)

Morning all.
Hate to be a spoil sport ..But I believe shower doors are Safety glass Like the windshield in your car .... not much good for any recycle craft I can think of.
Cheryl

I guess I should say its not much good after you break it .. you wont get the little pices you get with tempered glass

This message was edited Apr 22, 2008 8:14 PM

Hillsboro, OH(Zone 6a)

I did use shower doors to harden off plants one year. When the basement got to full, I made a box out of straw bales and put the doors on top. It worked great. Feeling bad, I left those doors in the garage at my other house now. LOL

I have to say, the crafty ideas sound much more fun!

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

Badseed, did you use the straw for mulch in the spring?

The neighbor behind me had a new sewer line put in and when they did it, they had to dig within 6 feet of 2 hundred year old oak trees. These trees shade the very back edge of my yard. I expect them to die in the next 2 years. I will miss them, but it will give me a space to put a cold frame. I am assuming here that a cold frame needs to be in the sun.

Mesilla Park, NM

oh, yeah, you can use it/the doors as painted glass stained window panels where you sit.. that would work too, draw some designs and paint each one a different color.

I also stack bags of potting soil and make a square or circle and stick plants inside that, then use the soil in spring...... then start all over again in fall buying more sacks of potting soil or promix, they stack up nice.. like the bales of hay, used those in CA.. I may try getting some hay this year and then use what is left next year to start a compost bin/pile.

Hillsboro, OH(Zone 6a)

Yes, I did reuse the straw. ;) I try not to waste anything.

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

I like the idea of not wasting anything.:) I've heard of people using straw for mulch. Are there different kinds?

Hillsboro, OH(Zone 6a)

I'm lucky to know farmers now and people that cut straw. You want to avoid the first cut which will have seeds. The second cut is below the seeds and the third is near the ground. I was told if they use good sharp machines that you should not have seeds in the second or third cut. This is what I was told.

Mesilla Park, NM

My neighbor bales hay (I think that is what it is alfalfa) is that the same as straw? probably not, huh? He puts up a sign every time he bales, he cut a couple of days ago and it is sitting waiting to dry. I had been thinking about getting some bales from him. He doesn't live next door, but in El Paso, TX and comes down to irrigate and cut.

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

Thanks Badseed for explaining that. I would feel so dumb asking for something like straw because I know nothing about it. Are there different kinds? If you just want it for mulch, is it cheaper to buy it unbailed?

Gourd I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't know this stuff.

Hillsboro, OH(Zone 6a)

Interesting reading on straw: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Straw_Bale_Construction/Characteristics/Availability_types_and_cost

I know for hay you can buy Timothy and Alfalfa.

For straw, I've seen pine, wheat, oat and others.

Typically straw is bedding while hay is food but from what I understand, both are fed to cows. Interesting info: http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/archives/2004/06/20/straw-vs-hay/

Interesting thread: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fourseason/msg060007559489.html

The first year I lived at my little farm, a farmer down the road charged me $65 to brush hog about 5 acres, which he rolled into bales and took home to his cows. He said it was full of weed seeds (neglect from previous owner) but they'd eat it if they had to. The last two years he has done it for free because cutting it each year, has improved the quality and gotten rid of the nasty weeds and seeds that were in it. He did it early last year hoping to get two cuts out of it but the drought set in. It didn't grow enough.

He left a huge bale up by the road and I wanted to use drain tile to make one of those huge spider for Halloween but I didn't know when he'd come take it. LOL

More on hay. Who knew? http://www.hayexchange.com/

I'm not a real farmer yet but happy to be a daylily farmer. ;)

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

Thanks for all those links. It'll take me awhile to read all those.

I've read some threads where you talk about your dl hybridizing. How is that going?

Hillsboro, OH(Zone 6a)

I have thousands more seedlings to plant. LOL I also registered my first. :) It's a lot of work but I'm having the time of my life. Thank you for asking.

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

What is the name of your dl?

Hillsboro, OH(Zone 6a)

Dan Bachman told me if I didn't toot my own horn, no one else would. LOL

It's called Lynchburg Mustang, named for the school district here. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/166928/

Mesilla Park, NM

Wow, that is fantastic... I didn't know you were hybridizing... congratulations girl!!! off to see the link...

Phoenix, AZ

Interesting turn this thread has taken. Thanks so much for that link to Wiki re: straw bale construction. Great info.

Now, silverfluter; what have you decided to do with the door?! Inquiring minds want to know.

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

Well, I wish I could tell you. DH is still not thrilled about breaking it though - partly because he doesn't think it'll break into anything useable. I did show him the picture above, but I don't think he's convinced. I like the idea of a cold frame. I've been trying to figure out though if I made sides out of hay or straw, how do I attach the door. I have to be able to open it and prop it up. And if I used hay or straw, would I have roaches in there like I do in the gh?

Phoenix, AZ

I think your idea of a straw-sided cold frame is a good one. I'd just put the door on top, then lift and slide it over one side. I think anytime you create an environment good for plants, it will be good for roaches. They love heat. And water. If you have an online classified like craigslist.com, you could post it there. Bet someone would buy it!

Fredericksburg, TX(Zone 8a)

Well I guess I'dhave to find some kind of herb or something to spread on the ground to discourage the roaches. If I do the cold frame thing, I'll probably use a piece of plexiglass instead of real glass.

I'm going to try to cut through the silicone seal around the edge of the glass door and then probably cut the wood frame off with a scroll saw. Maybe a hand saw? I'm afraid I'll shatter the glass with the vibrations from the saw. I know I need to break it, but as I understand it, I need to have some kind of box around it so the glass doesn't scatter everywhere. How did Deviant desizener do that?

Mesilla Park, NM

put gravel on the bottom, it drains well and doesn't invite anything.. then place the hay on top of the gravel too. That may work.

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