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Forum: Plant and Tree IdentificationReplies: 10, Views: 85
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karijb
Portland, OR

April 20, 2008
11:34 AM

Post #4835601

I really need to buy a camera...

I have a small volunteer sapling (it is only 10 inches high) with brown colored bark, alternate red buds with light green, heart-shaped, serrated leaves, somewhat fuzzy both sides- actually, even the stems seem slightly fuzzy. I assume it started from a nut dropped by a squirrel or fruit from a bird.
I know it is hard when you can't see a picture, but - any ideas?
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2008
11:47 AM

Post #4835665

Maybe an aspen? I don't know if aspens are fuzzy or not since I've never grown one, but the leaves are somewhat heart shaped and do have slightly serrated edges. [HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]

Cercis (redbud) also has heart shaped leaves but the leaves aren't serrated and I don't think they're fuzzy (at least my C. occidentalis isn't fuzzy).
jeffinsgf
Brighton, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 20, 2008
12:38 PM

Post #4836006

Sounds like a Redbud to me.
Resin
Northumberland
(United Kingdom)
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2008
2:17 PM

Post #4836386

Not Aspen - they're also not fuzzy.

If you can't get a pic, a drawing would help - exact shape of leaves and buds, and stipules if present, call all help identification.

Resin
karijb
Portland, OR

April 21, 2008
11:37 AM

Post #4840939

No, it is definitely not a redbud. And, I was also sure it wasn't an aspen. I almost put that in my first post-guess I should have. Thanks for the suggestion of the all-call.
Obviously, I need to advance my tech skills to be able to post pictures.
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 21, 2008
12:02 PM

Post #4841031

Do you see any bigger trees in the area that look like they have the same kind of leaves? If so, if you can describe the height and growth habit that might give people some more ideas. Also, although it's not redbud or aspen, they both have heart-shaped leaves but they're heart shaped in different ways, does your tree look more like one or the other, or is it a different sort of heart shaped than either one? And how about the size of the leaves? Paulownia would be another possibility, it's a kind of weedy tree (invasive in many areas of the country) so it tends to pop up out of nowhere. Or maybe some sort of mulberry (Morus), I noticed yesterday that mine has sort of heart shaped leaves.
karijb
Portland, OR

April 21, 2008
1:06 PM

Post #4841310

I don't see other trees with leaves like that but there must be - it had to come from someplace. I also have trouble seeing leaves that are very far away.

I was afraid it might be a Paulownia - there are some in the neighborhood but I don't think it is - unless the juvenile leaves look a lot different from mature leaves. Maybe when it grows a bit more I can identify it.
The leaves are heart-shaped but not like either those of redbud or aspen. They have a little tail at the end. Don't know if that helps at all.
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 21, 2008
2:06 PM

Post #4841611

Juvenile leaves on Paulownia can look different. Here's the Plant Files entry for it, if you look through all the pics that have been posted I bet there are a few of younger trees so you can compare [HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]
ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

April 21, 2008
5:45 PM

Post #4842549

Cannot be Paulownia if the leaf/bud arrangement is alternate. Good old pesky Royal Empress tree is opposite.

If you have a digital camera, posting pictures here is among the easiest of tasks (even I learned how to do it).

There is also a test forum where you can practice just these sorts of things.
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 24, 2008
7:38 PM

Post #4859613

I wonder if it could be a linden (Tilia cordata)? Someone just posted one of these over in the ID forum and it looks like it has somewhat heart shaped leaves with a little tail on them. [HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]
karijb
Portland, OR

April 25, 2008
12:28 AM

Post #4860978

Tilia cordata is what I finally thought it might be. Glad to hear someone else has the same idea. I found a picture on Google images of a very young one opening its leaves and I do believe that is it! Thanks. Whatever it is, it is pretty cute.

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