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trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 1, 2008
1:23 PM Post #4892301
| This large plant is growing under my bird feeder. It has large beautiful leaves and we have never seen this one before. We assume it came from the birdseed. Can some one help? 
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trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 1, 2008
1:25 PM Post #4892305
| Another shot, showing a shell ginger leaf also. 
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suse
Bretten
(Germany)
May 1, 2008
1:35 PM Post #4892335
| It's a Brugmannsia, formerly called Datura , from the Solanaceae family |
bettydee
La Grange, TX
(Zone 8b)
May 1, 2008
3:14 PM Post #4892695
| It does look like a Brugmansia, but wouldn't have come from the birdfeeder. Brugmansia seed has a corky cover and I doubt it would have attracted a bird to eat it. Pokeweed comes to mind. When young, it has smooth succulent stems, large alternate leaves as well. As it gets older, the stems turn purplish.
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If the stems are still green, I would let it grow some more. If it's pokeweed, the stems will turn slightly purple and it will begin to bloom within a few weeks. Brugmansias must grow 3-1/2' to 7' before they form a "Y" and bloom.
Here's a photo of Brugmansia 'Charles Grimaldi'. At least it was sold to me as one. It could be the parent Dr. Seuss because of the leaf shape.
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trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 1, 2008
3:24 PM Post #4892725
| When I went out and looked again, I noticed that we have the Double Golden Datura growing right next to this plant. The leaves are very similar, but the unknowns leaves are much larger.
Some of the Datura's leaves are in front of the unknowns leaves.
Thanks very much. We will be waiting for further development.
trois |
vanillaman
San Gerardo de Rivas
(Costa Rica)
(Zone 11)
May 1, 2008
3:25 PM Post #4892727
| I was thinking Pokeweed too. They grow everywhere here and I'm always looking at them to make sure they're not Brugmansias. We have them as well, but not nearly as many as Pokeweed! They look very similar until a little later. |
vanillaman
San Gerardo de Rivas
(Costa Rica)
(Zone 11)
May 1, 2008
3:28 PM Post #4892735
| Lol, that certainly changes things, knowing you have a Datura plant already there right beside the mystery one! |
trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 1, 2008
3:28 PM Post #4892738
| Bettydee, That looks almost exactly like the Datura I have. I forgot to attach the picture, so will do so now.
Thanks, trois
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charlenesplants
Buffalo, TX
(Zone 8b)
May 1, 2008
5:27 PM Post #4893172
| Trois,
It sounds like a seed from the golden datura may have fallen there and got fertilized.
Maybe bird poop is good fertilizer causing bigger leaves? Maybe it is poke weed?
Keep us posted.
Charlene
P.S. Are you coming to the Buffalo RU? |
trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 1, 2008
8:35 PM Post #4893926
| We will be unable to make the Buffalo RU.
I will keep an eye on this plant till we figure out what it is. |
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 6a)
May 2, 2008
5:44 AM Post #4895315
| the leaves of the new plant could be different from the original datura - it will be interesting to see what kind of blooms you get
my first thought when I saw the pic was Brugmansia as well |
trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 2, 2008
7:53 AM Post #4895567
| When it blooms I will post a picture. |
trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 11, 2008
2:25 PM Post #4937260
| Well, this plant hasn't bloomed yet, but some buds have appeared. Do these look like Brugs? 
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plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
May 11, 2008
2:34 PM Post #4937272
| Very nice plant, I like that foliage! Can't wait to see those blooms when they open, sure hope you will post a photo!
So, are Datura's and Brugs the same thing? Someone once told me that Datura flowers point up and Brug flowers hang down but I've seen photo's that don't show that. I am really curious to hear what your plant is.
Images of Datura's: [HYPERLINK@images.google.com]
Images of Brugsmania's: [HYPERLINK@images.google.com] |
trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 11, 2008
2:43 PM Post #4937293
| Two types of Datura, one called Angel's Trumpet, is the larger Brug, point down. The other, Devil's Trumpet, point up. I have both plus this unknown, which seems to be pointing down.
We will see before long. There are many buds on this new plant. |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9a)
May 11, 2008
3:07 PM Post #4937359
| Ok, I always heard that the Brugmansia was the common name "Angel's Trumpet" and Datura was common name "Devil's Trumpet". I just did some googling and see that they are both in the same family of plants - Solanaceae. just different Genus, one being genus, Brugmansia and the other genus, Datura.
Confusing ... but beautiful family of plants. Any idea how long before the buds open on your plant? They sure have gorgeous flowers and I hear that some are fragrant. |
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 6a)
May 11, 2008
3:17 PM Post #4937380
| Yes, the Daturas and Brugs are different. You can get most of your questions answered on the Brugmansia forum, but this is what I learned there: Brugmansias (Angels Trumpets) have flowers that flow downwards. They smell really good, too! The plants can grow to be quite tall, tree-like. The Daturas (Devils Trumpets) flowers flow upwards. I think of the Angel Trumpets as guarding us, coming down from heaven, and the Devils Trumpets crying upwards, from, well, you know where. Yours really looks like a Brugmansia to me.
The seed pods of the Daturas are prickly. I never got a seed pod from a Brug, but from the pics I've seen, they aren't prickly.
I am hoping for you that you have a Brug. They are my favorite. I had one on my front porch (potted) one year and it was heavenly to sit underneath it and breathe it's perfume. I've found the white flowered ones the most fragrant.
Be sure to check out that forum I listed above. They can answer your questions and are very helpful there - in care, etc... Hope this helps!
Karrie |
trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 11, 2008
3:30 PM Post #4937404
| Thanks for the info, and I have no idea when they will bloom. I will post when they do |
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)
May 11, 2008
4:32 PM Post #4937583
| Some Daturas have a lovely fragrance too. |
trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 26, 2008
2:50 PM Post #5005958
| It is a Brug for sure. This plant has the best looking leaves and the ugliest flower I have seen on a Brug.
It has many blooms now, all just like the two I am posting. The blooms never open completely, and they all look sickly. At least it is a mystery no longer.
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trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 26, 2008
2:51 PM Post #5005965
| Second shot. 
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ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)
May 26, 2008
2:55 PM Post #5005984
| No offense, but that has to be one of the ugliest brugs I've seen! Does it at least have a nice fragrance? |
trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 26, 2008
3:14 PM Post #5006052
| I agree. No offense. Also, no fragrance either. |
bettydee
La Grange, TX
(Zone 8b)
May 26, 2008
4:24 PM Post #5006324
| trois, this is it's first flush. Give it time to mature or at least grow into cooler weather. Temperatures have a big impact on the blooms. Have you tried to smell it at night? That's when their fragrance, if any, is best. |
trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
May 26, 2008
5:24 PM Post #5006563
| Thanks, bettydee. I would keep it for the foliage alone. I will sniff tonight. |
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 6a)
June 10, 2008
10:05 PM Post #5085295
| I thought it was a Brug. My daturas didn't quite look like that, foliage wise. Too bad about the flowers. Hope they get better as summer progresses. Bummer! |
Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)
June 10, 2008
10:10 PM Post #5085324
| I was wondering if the blossoms opened at night, and the lucky owner didn't stay up past sundown to see its glory? Looks like it could have been a show if you've caught the blooms at night, where the fragrant will win you over, if not the structure of the trumpets. |
trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
June 10, 2008
10:15 PM Post #5085344
| It will bloom again probably. |
Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)
June 10, 2008
10:17 PM Post #5085360
| Yes, it would, mine have given several waves of blooms since early spring. :-) |
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 6a)
June 10, 2008
10:58 PM Post #5085540
| Lily's right - they do tend to bloom best right after sundown, and are most fragrant at that time too. If it's near a patio or sitting area, it's a nice time to have a cup of decaf, sitting close to it, reflecting on your day. |
trois
Santa Fe, TX
(Zone 9b)
June 11, 2008
7:09 AM Post #5086396
| Thank you. |
