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KyWoods Melbourne, KY (Zone 6a)
May 07, 2008 01:14 AM Post #4917731
| I feel blessed to have such a rare and wonderful flower in abundance in our woods here. I didn't know they were valued medicinally, and what a bittersweet story about Aunt Bett's wedding flowers! I probably will think of her every time I see them now.
I was thinking of trying to transplant one, and even somehow send one in the mail, but it sounds like they are too fragile. Here is what ours look like:
Edit: Sorry it's a little blurred.
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Sharran Calvert City, KY (Zone 6b)
May 07, 2008 01:51 AM Post #4917777
| Nice to hear from you. I have had no luck in transplanting out of their environment, though I did try quite often when I lived in the mountains. They just don't seem to like being disturbed. But I am sure there have been some successes, and yours might be one of them. Good luck, and let me know what happens.
Thanks,
sharon |
debilu Fingerlakes Region, NY (Zone 6a)
May 07, 2008 05:06 AM Post #4917922
| I have white Trillium in my garden, some I bought, some my sister dug from her garden, which she transplanted from her woods. The ones from my sister's garden are doing better than the one's I bought.
Trillium remind me of my mom. Loved the article! |
pirl Southold, NY (Zone 7a)
May 07, 2008 08:31 AM Post #4918284
| What a lovely story, Sharon, even with the unhappy part about Aunt Bett not being able to have the children she wanted. I love your writing! |
Lindawalkabout Holden, MO (Zone 5b)
May 07, 2008 09:49 AM Post #4918601
| Awesome story, and I too will always think of Aunt Bett's when I see a Trillium . My heart is sadden to of the story you shared but uplifted to the love she had for you , and you for her.
Just a couple of weeks ago I dug up some Trillium from my sisters woods and put a couple in my woods to see how they transplant,.
Just got back after reading your story to check them out. One is doing great and the other not so great, hope the roots will take hold.
I just got them before they started to flower. I did not know about their value other then being a wonderful flower to find in the woods while I morel hunt.
Thank you for sharing your lovely stories in the mountains with your Aunt Bett. They make me smile , laugh out loud and cry in the my heart.
and forgot to add, knowledge and wisdom to my mind and soul. Thank you
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Sharran Calvert City, KY (Zone 6b)
May 07, 2008 10:03 AM Post #4918676
| I am so glad some of you have been able to transplant those fragile little beauties.
My attempts to transplant them were unsuccessful due to my age, no doubt, though I was still attempting to do it when I was an adult. My mother always said they would transplant if the soil content, environment, etc were replicated.
Now I just leave them where I find them, and send Aunt Bett a smile or two.
Thank you for all your comments. |
wannadanc Olympia, WA
May 07, 2008 10:12 AM Post #4918717
| I, too, was raised w/ all that wisdom about not picking the Trillium - and in later life, as a science teacher, I was able to emphasize this to my students - as well as pointing out the biology behind that.
On transplant - just one - and it is blooming today!!!
Spotting the first Trillium of the spring is rather like spotting the first pussy willows ...
Thanks so much for the article ... |
gloria125 Greensboro, AL
May 07, 2008 12:21 PM Post #4919325
| I still remember the trilliums from our woods. My mom said also not to pick them or then they would be gone. I still remember the day I found a red one, and I didn't pick it hoping the next year there would be more.
But when I went back the next year, there were only white ones. |
victorgardener Lower Hudson Valley, NY (Zone 6b)
May 07, 2008 12:28 PM Post #4919370
| Another great story, Sharon. It's always a treat to spot them while hiking. Thank you. |
KyWoods Melbourne, KY (Zone 6a)
May 07, 2008 03:36 PM Post #4920203
| Hmm, good to hear some encouraging reports about transplanting! |
Sharran Calvert City, KY (Zone 6b)
May 07, 2008 05:04 PM Post #4920561
| It is encouraging to know that some are having success with trillium transplants. Maybe there is hope for me yet.
Fun to read your comments, thank you. |
gloria125 Greensboro, AL
May 07, 2008 05:33 PM Post #4920681
| Ive seen trillium plants for sale. I sure would like to have a little colony of red one's if I can make a woodsy home for them.
don't know if they would like Alabama. I know they really belong north of here. |
Sharran Calvert City, KY (Zone 6b)
May 07, 2008 05:44 PM Post #4920810
| The trillium plants that are for sale that I have seen don't quite resemble the wild ones, something seems different about them.
Like different colored Monarda instead of the red of the wild ones.
And different shades of Spiderwort instead of the sky blue.
Something about the ones for sale now is just a little off kilter, you know?
Still beautiful, though, and still very special. |
debilu Fingerlakes Region, NY (Zone 6a)
May 07, 2008 05:50 PM Post #4920828
| You're right Sharon, the ones from my sister's woods are bigger, taller, more upright and seem a brighter white. The ones I bought at least 3 years ago now, are about 1/2 the size. I just bought more bare root trillium from Lowe's this year, they had both red and white, but I only bought the white. It'll probably take a few years for the last ones to get going. |
Sharran Calvert City, KY (Zone 6b)
May 07, 2008 05:53 PM Post #4920841
| Maybe it won't take very long, Deb, you are in a good region for them. |
flowerhead410 Nelson, NH (Zone 5a)
May 07, 2008 06:26 PM Post #4920976
| Shar, once a gain a really wonderful story. You bring tears to my eyes. Thanks for sharing your wonderful stories and wisdom. |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 May 07, 2008 06:30 PM Post #4920994
| Wonderful story, as always. Thank you. |
randbponder Hornick, IA (Zone 4b)
May 07, 2008 09:55 PM Post #4921908
| I too have to thank you. It seems that when my friend and I are walking through the timber, looking for Morels, he will ask me what kind of flower, this or that one is. and again this year I had explained to him that the three leaves and three petals were Trillium. And the May apples and Dutchman's britches. Though we haven't found any Morels yet this year it has always been a very good walk, and great exersize. as it is a rather steep gully with a very tiny stream running through it.
I did not know about the medicinal value, that will be another interesting fact I can pass on to any one else when we are traipsing through the woods in the spring. Thank you for a wonderful story.
Russ |
Sharran Calvert City, KY (Zone 6b)
May 07, 2008 10:12 PM Post #4922017
| Thank you, good luck with the Morels, Russ.
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herbalbetty Middleburgh, NY
May 12, 2008 07:03 AM Post #4939752
| Sharon, a beautiful story. My heart goes out to Aunt Bett.
I grew up on the Canadian border of NY state and there was a spot in the woods down the road from us that was filled with trilliums. We also knew they were a protected plant. A few years ago, when the road was to be widened, I traveled home to dig up a few trilliums rather than have them bulldozed under. I am happy to report they are doing well in my woodland garden. The red trilliums we always called stinkpots due to the smell. Not pleasant! |
debilu Fingerlakes Region, NY (Zone 6a)
May 12, 2008 07:07 AM Post #4939763
| I remember when I was young how my mom told a story about my oldest brother picking stink pots for her for Mother's Day, and how bad they smelled but she put them in a vase anyway.
So, that's why I always liked trillium, and planted white ones because of my mom. They didn't smell bad, so I knew I had the wrong plant, but now I know it was just the wrong color!
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pirl Southold, NY (Zone 7a)
May 12, 2008 07:57 AM Post #4939904
| When I saw them at a nursery, over the weekend, I thought of Aunt Bett and Sharon. |
Doe41 (Audrey) Dyersburg, TN (Zone 7a)
May 12, 2008 11:54 AM Post #4940851
| Gloria, I've seen trillium growing wild in the woods at Pinson Ala. They will grow in Ala. Thanks, Sharon for the lovely article, I do enjoy "Aunt Bett"!
Doe41/Audrey |
gloria125 Greensboro, AL
May 12, 2008 12:01 PM Post #4940878
| Doe41. Thanks for the information. Ill have to check if they will grow this far south (zone 8B) |
starfarmer Ann Arbor, MI
May 12, 2008 02:14 PM Post #4941338
| @gloria125: Trillium sulcatum, the Southern Red trillium, is native to your area. To see a picture, check out http://www.flickr.com/photos/janet_powell/453074400/ . Trillium stamineum is also native to Alabama but it is more of a collector's plant with odd greeny-red flowers. If you're set on a white-flowered wakerobin, look for Trillium simile.
As far as I can determine, at least 9 species of Trillium are native to Alabama, so you should be able to find at least ONE that works! My favorite is Trillium catesbaei, which is pale pink, nodding and looks rather like a Stargazer lily! For a list of most of them with links to pictures (along with many other stunning native Alabama plants) check out http://www.alabamaplants.com/species_list.html . Check with local Native Plant Societies for sources of plants and seed
One of the reasons for-sale trilliums may not look like the ones you grew up with is that there are over 50 species in the genus Trillium. Almost 40 are native to either the eastern or western parts of temperate North America; another five show up in Siberia, China & the Himalayas.
BTW, although the Flora of North America and other sources lists Trillium as being in the Lily family, most no longer consider them so. They were transferred to their own family Trilliaceae a few decades ago and then, about eight years ago were assigned to a distinctive family Melanthiaceae as a result of recent genetic and phylogenic studies (it's still in the Liliales, though, although more in the direction of "Kangaroo Paws" and Tradescantias than "pure" lilies!). Some other plants of the Melanthiaceae you may be familiar with are Paris (Herb Paris), Veratrum (False Hellebore ), Xerophyllum (Beargrass) and Zigadenus ( Death Camas and Star Lily). Of course, some authorities disagree with all of this...for a good overview of the contrary view, check out http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ .
A subject rich in folklore, medicine, history and science...what more can you ask for?
Cheers,
Len
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gloria125 Greensboro, AL
May 12, 2008 04:08 PM Post #4941720
| starfarmer: thanks for the information. As an archaeologist I have done a lot of stomping around in the Alabama woods in most seasons.
Ive never seen a trillium here. Its good to know they SHOULD be here.
thanks for the links.
gloria |
KyWoods Melbourne, KY (Zone 6a)
May 12, 2008 08:31 PM Post #4942743
| Ya know, I never thought to smell the red ones here. Gee, I do hope they're not "stinkpots", lol ! |