Photo by Melody

Insect and Spider Identification: SOLVED: Black spider with red back - I'm freaked - what is it?

Communities > Forums > Insect and Spider Identification
bookmark
Forum: Insect and Spider IdentificationReplies: 69, Views: 961
Add to Bookmarks
-
AuthorContent
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

May 9, 2008
2:56 PM

Post #4928511

It is not a black widow - we have black widows. They have a red hour glass shape on their abdomen.

This spider came out of a potted shefflera plant from a florist. It was black, about 1/2" in diameter, and had a orange/red mark on it's back. The mark was shaped like a fat exclamation point without the point or a baseball bat. It was wider at one end than the other.

I did not think to get a photo. I was a little freaked - have never seen anything like it before and aren't red spots supposed to signal 'danger'???? It was in the bathtub so it got washed down the drain. When I started trying to id it on the internet all I could find was this venemous spider from Austrailia - the redback spider - which isn't making me feel any better. (do sheffleras come from Austrailia???) I'm trying not to be too worried but I keep thinking there are others now in my house. We already have black widows and brown recluse. We don't need any more scary spiders! Can anyone tell me what kind of spider this might be?
peachespickett
Huntington, AR

May 13, 2008
12:58 AM

Post #4942865

I live in Western Arkansas, and too have seen the red-backed spider. I also thought maybe it was the Australian Redback, having heard that it has escaped into parts of the deep south from shipments. But after looking the red-backed spider you are talking about is a variation of the regular black widow...here's a site with some more info.
http://entomology.uark.edu/museum/widow.html
I save spiders when I find them in the house, I even leave the black widows alone if they're not too close to the house, but I kill the brown recluses when I find them, though I hate seeing a spider die. Weird, I know, but I had tarantulas as a kid, and it's a little known fact that if it were not for spiders, mankind would not exist...the world would have long ago been taken over by insects.
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

May 13, 2008
1:54 AM

Post #4943188

Hi peachespickett, where is Huntington? Did you get an invite to the Arkansas Round-Up being held at my home this Saturday? If not, go to this thread to get details. We would love to have you join us. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/815485/

When googling 'black spider red back' all I got was the Australian redback spider. Creepy! It appears to have a rounder body than the one in my tub. And yes, you are right, it is their version of our black widow. I learned more about black widows than I wanted to know a few years ago when discovering they are the favorite food for dirt daubers. They paralyze imature spiders and stuff them in their mud nests for their babies to eat when they hatch. Yuck! When we knocked down the nests there were all these small yellow and brown spiders inside - alive but paralyzed. Who would have known immature black widows are yellow with yellow and brown legs!
peachespickett
Huntington, AR

May 13, 2008
3:24 AM

Post #4943646

I have to work Saturday, which I hate with a passion, but I thank you very much for the invite. I imagine the Round-Ups are a fine, friendly time ...I'm also not a paid subscriber, I am what I refer to as a 'DG bum', or 'DG mooch'.
I do believe it is the immature female black widows that are yellow, and they have a white swirl on their sides, I think. That wasp thing is weird, I guess it's another version of the Tarantula Hawk...people think aliens must be weird, when there are things more strange and terrifying than anything we could find in space, here on our own planet.
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

May 13, 2008
11:23 AM

Post #4944302

LOL! Guess you're right about the strange and terrifying things! No need to be a subscriber to come to a RU - everyone is invited.

Thanks for the link. That was an interesting article. This isn't a very good photo, but it's of the immature black widows from inside the dirt dauber nest.

Thumbnail by fleursdefouquet
Click the image for an enlarged view.

claypa
West Pottsgrove, PA
(Zone 6b)

May 14, 2008
2:22 AM

Post #4948116

I couldn't come up with anything for your black and red spider, fleursdefouquet, but you really had me scratching my head with your description of juvenile widow spiders - now I know why! Those are orb weaving spiders in the genus Neoscona:

http://bugguide.net/node/view/129539/bgimage

What an amazing photo, a bunch of paralyzed spiders!
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

May 14, 2008
3:34 AM

Post #4948440

claypa, I hope you are right. I cannot find the site where I found photos of spiders exactly like these and were identified as immature widows, but it didn't help that the article talked about black widows being the favorite food of dirt daubers.

Here is a link to a similar photo. http://nathistoc.bio.uci.edu/spiders/Latrodectus%20hesperus.htm
I agree that your orb spiders do look very much like my paralyzed spiders and it's possible the source I found had them misidentified. I'm hoping...I'm hoping...

The original red backed spider is still a little worrisome. Can you convince me it was just a harmless orb weaving spider????
imzadi
Jackson, SC
(Zone 8a)

May 14, 2008
3:56 AM

Post #4948535

http://www.amonline.net.au/factSheets/red_spotted.htm

Argyrodes
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

May 16, 2008
2:03 PM

Post #4959349

Thanks for the link, imzadi. That doesn't really look like the one I saw and, again, it's found on another continent! lol! That's what worried me - that the one in my tub was some kind of spider that had been transported over here with tropical plants or something. I DO NOT want to see one again, but if I do I will definitely get a photo of it. I'm still searching sites for something that looks like it but haven't seen one yet.
imzadi
Jackson, SC
(Zone 8a)

May 18, 2008
9:20 PM

Post #4969921

eww good luck
suunto
Sinks Grove, WV

May 20, 2008
1:56 AM

Post #4976375

It could be a jumping spider in the genus Phidippus - several species in this genus have red markings on their back. See http://bugguide.net/node/view/20778/bgimage and http://bugguide.net/node/view/100863/bgimage for a couple of examples.
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

May 20, 2008
2:15 AM

Post #4976476

suunto, thanks for the links. There are several jumping spiders that look similar, but their color pattern is opposite of the one I saw. These have red backs with black center mark. The one I saw was all black with a single red mark down the center of it's back. I'll keep looking though as these look more like it than any others.
supergrover
Blacksburg, SC

June 9, 2008
9:46 PM

Post #5078584

I have found many of these IN my home in SC. None outside as of yet. I had my brother take them to Virginia Tech for identification and they said it was some kind of wolf spider but offered no pictures and there is nothing found on the internet about a wolf spider that looks like this. The guy said he saw some in Ohio like it but not in VA or SC. Well i think it is the Red Back spider and I was wondering if someone could identify it. The spider is shiny red, not furry although it has tiny spikes coming off its legs. The stripe is reddish orange. I had some in a jar and they make a cobweb not a pretty web. They get almost on the hind legs when mad and act like they will strike you. They are fast and stand out against any background. I am very concerned this is a Red Back. Help Please.

Thumbnail by supergrover
Click the image for an enlarged view.

supergrover
Blacksburg, SC

June 9, 2008
9:50 PM

Post #5078603

Also the stripe is on the top back of the spider no the underside. The underside is just all black. I had 2 in a jar and one seemed bigger than the other. I thought one might be the female and one the male but no mating happened or attacking. Also I did put a bug in there for them to eat but they seemed to have nothing to do with it. I have found them in many rooms in my house. I had the exterminator come out to spray and thought for sure they would go away but it has not helped.
GranvilleSouth

(Zone 10a)

June 9, 2008
9:57 PM

Post #5078621

Your spider sounds like a Redback alright Fluers, though I have no idea about them being over there. Can you get a picture? Scheffleras are native here & in New Zealand. They are very commmon, but I doubt your plant was imported. Is there a tag with the plant saying where it was grown? It might be a nursery with Australian plants & an in-house redback population or something.

This message was edited Jun 9, 2008 5:58 PM
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

June 9, 2008
10:00 PM

Post #5078641

That's it! That's it! Thanks for the photo, supergrover. Maybe someone can id it for us now. Haven't seen any more here (knock on wood) and hope it stays that way. Sorry to hear you have so many. I'll cross my fingers that, when finally identified, it will be a 'good' spider.

Debra
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

June 9, 2008
10:01 PM

Post #5078647

Granville - my spider was exactly like the one supergrover shows above.
GranvilleSouth

(Zone 10a)

June 9, 2008
10:08 PM

Post #5078682

OK. Well, it isn't a Redback. Redbacks have small, round bodies & a thin stripe. They are quite dainty compared to Grover's. I hope it turns out a native of some type.
supergrover
Blacksburg, SC

June 9, 2008
10:11 PM

Post #5078689

Dear Fleursdefouquet

I knew it was. I just knew when you described it that I had found a friend. I keep trying to get someone to help me identify it.

Well here is something wierd. I am not a native of the area. But I was telling a friend about my struggle and she said that she and her husband who have both lived in the country their who lives just killed one like this. She said she has NEVER seen one like it before.

I just am so worried it is one of the Red Backs. My research indicates they are really infesting Australia. They had to close a whole hospital.

And if the Red Backs are in America we need to make sure we have the antivenom.

The one wierd thing is that many of the pictures I see of the Red Back they have a more round abdoment. This one had an abdoment that on the underside had a more point to it like a bee or something. I don't know the technically.

Well hopefully we will get someone to identify them for us.
GranvilleSouth

(Zone 10a)

June 9, 2008
10:17 PM

Post #5078711

Like you say Redbacks are round & also, quite shiny. The picture here shows one exactly how I've seen them all my life ...

http://www.geocities.com/brisbane_weavers/images/Red_Ba9.jpg

If that is one there, it is a mutant from hell. I hope you ID it. I'll have a look round the net but its not anything common here.

This message was edited Jun 9, 2008 6:18 PM
supergrover
Blacksburg, SC

June 9, 2008
11:02 PM

Post #5078913

Yes well it is shiny. I guess the picture does not show that but it is definately shiny not like other spiders I have seen. As far as being dainty this one is dead. I was trying to get a picture and i accidentally pinched it with the tweezers. The legs curled up so it does not look dainty. Maybe it is a mutant. Whatever it is I just want to know.
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2008
12:43 AM

Post #5079573

supergrover, do you have any more photos? or can you take any more photos of the underside, etc. ? If you will email them to me I'll send them to our University and any other place that may be able to identify them. If that's agreeable to you I'll dmail you my email address.

What country are you from originally? Have you been here long? welcome!

Debra
suunto
Sinks Grove, WV

June 10, 2008
1:38 AM

Post #5079878

The spider in the photo definitely is NOT a red-backed spider. Like the black widow, the red-backed spider is in the family Theridiidae (comb-footed/cobweb spiders), and the abdomen is nearly spherical in females. This spider is in the family Clubionidae and the genus Castianeira (see http://www.spiderzrule.com/spider051/IMG_5154_small.JPG for an image); it belongs to a subgroup within this family referred to as 'ant-mimic spiders'; this particular species is thought to resemble a velvet ant (Hymenoptera: Mutillidae). It is harmless to humans.
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2008
1:45 AM

Post #5079914

suunto - Thank you so much! and I'm sure supergrover thanks you, too! I'm off to google it now and read more about it. Can definitely see the resemblence to the velvet ant.

supergrover - are you there? Your spiders are not a danger. Good news!

Mystery solved!
leahmcknight
Cade, LA

July 11, 2009
2:42 AM

Post #6804770

i found this exact spider in my daughter's bedroom this evening. you can imagine my concern. after a couple of hours of searching the internet i stumbled upon your thread. thank god for the internet! and thank you for your post!
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

July 12, 2009
12:50 AM

Post #6808297

Glad you found this thread, Leah. That's one of the wonderful things about Daves Garden.
jlg1067
Mount Pleasant, NC

July 16, 2009
11:59 AM

Post #6825819

I have NEVER seen a spider like this here before but Yesterday I found this same spider in my car. I looked down and saw it hanging around my parking break… I, of course, freaked and started yelling black widow... black widow… Then a Knight in shining amour showed up to slay the poor creature...looking back it was quite comical but at the time… I could have had a heart attack!. Thanks for keeping this thread alive and keeping us spiderphobes in the loop and thus sane... I was very concerned when I could not find any picture that matched my spider.
You guys rock!


This message was edited Jul 16, 2009 7:00 AM

Thumbnail by jlg1067
Click the image for an enlarged view.

fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

July 16, 2009
12:16 PM

Post #6825851

Glad you know what it is now. I would have freaked if it was in my car, too. To bad it had to be killed since it was not venemous (easy for me to say, right?). Black widows have the red mark on their abdomen and you only see it when they are hanging upside down.
mnammary39
Galveston, TX

July 16, 2009
10:01 PM

Post #6828066

So is that final? It's a Clubionidae and the genus Castianeira ?
I hope so. I found one crawling next to my 2 year old's feet and it freaked me OUT!!
Please confirm this is correct anyone??? Suunto - thank you for your post.

Melanie
fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

July 17, 2009
11:48 AM

Post #6829966

Melanie, the link suunto provided is the same type spider I found in my tub. The photo jlg1067 provided also appears to be the same type of spider I found in my tub. Hope this helps.
curiousmom
Shawnee Mission, KS

September 27, 2009
5:01 PM

Post #7109571

Hi there. I just spotted a similar spider, but it is reversed with red body and black stripe... legs and head are black too... any help?? Kansas City Area...

Thumbnail by curiousmom
Click the image for an enlarged view.

curiousmom
Shawnee Mission, KS

September 27, 2009
5:02 PM

Post #7109573

another view

Thumbnail by curiousmom
Click the image for an enlarged view.

curiousmom
Shawnee Mission, KS

September 27, 2009
5:02 PM

Post #7109575

Last picture...

Thumbnail by curiousmom
Click the image for an enlarged view.

doctedo
Oak Park, IL

October 15, 2009
4:09 PM

Post #7171982

While hiking through the Grand Canyon my wife came across this little guy.

Thumbnail by doctedo
Click the image for an enlarged view.

suunto
Sinks Grove, WV

October 15, 2009
10:28 PM

Post #7173155

The spiders of curiousmom and doctedo appear to be jumping spiders (family Salticidae) in the genus Phidippus. See http://tinyurl.com/yfl5a9b for some examples.

pollengarden

pollengarden
Pueblo, CO
(Zone 5b)

October 21, 2009
3:19 AM

Post #7192261

We have the red and black jumping spiders in Colorado, too. Oddly, we have a lot of them in the autumn but I don't see them any other time of year.
jocar02
Augusta, GA

December 2, 2009
7:43 PM

Post #7329077

My husband picked up a leyland cypress today and in it I found a shiny thick black spider with a small orange hourglass or bar on it's back. It was about the size of a quarter and was quite terrifying looking. Can anyone tell me what this spider may be?
jocar02
Augusta, GA

December 2, 2009
8:00 PM

Post #7329131

It looks a little like the one doctedo ran across in the Grand Canyon but not hairy at all just sleek/shiny black.
suunto
Sinks Grove, WV

December 2, 2009
8:59 PM

Post #7329289

If it was shiny, it might have been a northern black widow spider (Latrodectus variolus); these sometimes have orange markings on the upper side of the abdomen in addition to the 'hourglass' on the underside - see http://tinyurl.com/nrpdg3.
jocar02
Augusta, GA

December 2, 2009
9:04 PM

Post #7329296

I couldn't make your thread work is there another site?
jocar02
Augusta, GA

December 2, 2009
9:10 PM

Post #7329311

Hmmm...I just looked through pictures of the northern black widow and I do not think it is it. The one I found was blockier/thicker and it red/orange symbol was rather small unlike the N.B.W. I really wish I could have taken a pic but I was a little freaked out. It largely resembles a mouse spider but I could not find a pic of one with a red/orange bar on it's back.

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


December 2, 2009
9:11 PM

Post #7329317

http://davesgarden.com/guides/bf/go/1267/

and here's the "rogue's gallery" of other black widow spiders in our BugFiles: http://davesgarden.com/guides/bf/b/Araneae/Theridiidae/Latrodectus/none/genus/0/
jocar02
Augusta, GA

December 2, 2009
9:40 PM

Post #7329378

Thanks for the link! I do not think it's a black widow (or at least I hope not) since it's body is so blocky and legs so thick although the shiny blackness is correct. But I have never seen a spider that looks like this one. Can anyone help me id it? I have a 6 month old and am rather worried it's venomous.
suunto
Sinks Grove, WV

December 2, 2009
10:16 PM

Post #7329476

Was its shape anything like http://tinyurl.com/ljvo82 or http://tinyurl.com/ya6y5vq? The only spiders in Georgia that are both dangerous to humans and likely to be encountered outdoors are the widow spiders in the genus Latrodectus. There are several other species capable of inflicting a painful but not dangerous bite.
jocar02
Augusta, GA

December 3, 2009
12:47 AM

Post #7329884

Yes, it's body was stocky like the jumping spider but it had no hair. It was completely sleek and shiny, all black with a very small bar/hourglass shape on its hind.
suunto
Sinks Grove, WV

December 3, 2009
3:16 AM

Post #7330380

At this point, all I can suggest is that should you see another one, please try to take a photo of it.
JalapenoTxChick
Kodiak, AK

July 28, 2010
10:51 PM

Post #8003763

I too found about 20 of these black spiders with orange on its back (not tummy) in VA in my inlaws basement. I didnt think to take photos though, I was too busy sneaking raid down there before my son got around them on the off chance they were dangerous. Thanx for the information! I have been looking for any information for 2 years now!!
LizardTracks
Saint Johns, AZ

September 5, 2010
6:00 PM

Post #8082260

Message 1 of 2
Just found this little critter today. YES, she is a black widow with red hourglass on bottom and red stripe on top. She was found in the White Mountains of Arizona at 6,500 feet elevation. Will send picture of hourglass bottom in next message.

Thumbnail by LizardTracks
Click the image for an enlarged view.

LizardTracks
Saint Johns, AZ

September 5, 2010
6:01 PM

Post #8082261

Message 2 of 2
Just found this little critter today. YES, she is a black widow with red hourglass on bottom and red stripe on top. She was found in the White Mountains of Arizona at 6,500 feet elevation. Will send picture of hourglass bottom in next message.

Thumbnail by LizardTracks
Click the image for an enlarged view.

fleursdefouquet
Ferndale, AR
(Zone 7b)

September 6, 2010
8:11 AM

Post #8083227

Ewwww! Wish I hadn't clicked on that thumbnail photo. Don't like to see them that up close and personal! That's interesting with the red stripe on her back. What variety of black widow is that? I've never seen one like that before.
Rose1la
New York, NY

October 1, 2010
6:53 PM

Post #8132436

fleursdefouquet and supergrover thanks so much for posing this question and solving the mystery. I found this same spider in my bathtub about a year ago, and have been trying to identify it ever since. All I found on the Internet was the Australian Red Back, but as fleursdefouquet said, my spider did not have such a bulbous round back, nor was it as shiny. Now I know it was a Castianeira. But I still have these questions: was it dangerous, and how did it get in my bathtub in the middle of New York City?
amitycool75
Little Rock, AR

September 9, 2011
3:08 PM

Post #8801059

fleursdefouquet, thank you for starting this very informative thread and to everyone else who contributed very helpful info. I found this very same spider in our garage and was freaked out, thought that was a black widow, so happy to know it isn't. I can now rest easy. Thanks again.
witchbabywigg
Deming, NM

October 25, 2011
3:54 AM

Post #8862617

I saw a spider like that one jlg1067 posted. I hate spiders and I have a little dog. I already looked up all the names you said it could be. None seem to match it. Im completely freaked out. I want to know if you know if its poisons or maybe a name that COULD match that spider... Just looking at spider pictures freak me out. It was crawling on my floor when i went to catch it (screaming the whole time) It jumped. WHAT is that spider!!!!! My dog cant be bite by a spider he is little he will get ill. Please help me... He was solid black even the tummy expect that one red strip like jlg1067 picture.. please what is it?
witchbabywigg
Deming, NM

October 25, 2011
4:04 AM

Post #8862631

WILL IT hurt my dog please someone anwser...
Flapdoodle
Minot, ND

October 25, 2011
7:30 AM

Post #8862908

If your spider is the same as in jlg1067's picture, it is in the family Clubionidae and is harmless. See Post #5079878.
bokisan
Colorado Springs, CO
(Zone 4b)

October 25, 2011
10:49 AM

Post #8863179

the photographs that lizard tracks posted are the typical markings of all the north american black widow females, as juveniles

they lose this colouration in steps, in a gradual progression, with each molting.

the last remaining traces are usually just red dots down the middle of the back.

the older she is, ... the more times she's molted, ... the less markings on her back

if she lives long enough, the red hourglass on the belly can break up and go away, too

Uma, here, ... has only one red dot remaining on her back, right above her spinneret


This message was edited Oct 25, 2011 10:52 AM

Thumbnail by bokisan
Click the image for an enlarged view.

bokisan
Colorado Springs, CO
(Zone 4b)

October 25, 2011
10:54 AM

Post #8863183

she also has this one last little crest, on top at the front.

it will surely be gone with the next molting, ... and her dorsal tail dot mostly gone, too

Thumbnail by bokisan
Click the image for an enlarged view.

CrashFatale
Bonanza, AR

October 31, 2011
5:56 PM

Post #8871070

I just moved into my place and have been finding a LOT of spiders. Most of which are harmless and of no concern. However, about 2 weeks ago I was outside and picked up a lid for the garage can and the largest Black Widow I have ever seen had made its web inside. Inside along with the widow were 2 other spiders. One was small black, and had a white hourglass, and the other was brown. It looked a lot like a male widow spider. I took care of the issue. But then I found a similar web above my door trim today. I sprayed the spider and found that there was a black spider behind the web. I grabbed a broom and took care of that. Although I am not positive; I believe it was a black widow as well based off of the web. Then today in my kitchen, on the conner of my table I found a dead spider. At first glance I thought it was a young widow. But when I started looking closely...It is looking more like that Red Backed Spider. If you look very close. You can see white or maybe yellow markings on the sides. I am in Fort Smith, AR.

Thumbnail by CrashFatale
Click the image for an enlarged view.

CrashFatale
Bonanza, AR

October 31, 2011
6:01 PM

Post #8871076

Bottom View.

Thumbnail by CrashFatale
Click the image for an enlarged view.

bokisan
Colorado Springs, CO
(Zone 4b)

November 1, 2011
5:12 AM

Post #8871542

crash, that is a male black widow, ... a dead one
ticc_tocc
Parsons, KS

November 10, 2011
8:56 PM

Post #8885557

ok so 2 days ago i came across a brown recluse
running around on my computer
desk so i did what any
sane person would do i fulshed him
out and kill'ed him he was very
large (fact) he was the largest
brown recluse spider i have ever seen
in real life (don't get me wrong
i'm not afraid of spiders however
they do creep the heck out of me)
then a few days later i come across
a different different spider running
around on my desk this one however
was not a brown recluse it was a
good size a black hairy one with a
red dot on it's back and large fangs
i looked from a safe Distance to
see if it may have been a black
widow spider but as i said it just
had a red dot on it's back no
hourglass shape just a red dot on
it's back so i pushed him into a jar
with a piece of paper took him outside
and stepped on him. i have no clue
what kind he was i have yet to
come across a picture or anything
identifying him.
Flapdoodle
Minot, ND

November 11, 2011
6:09 AM

Post #8885726

If a spider was running around on a computer desk (or anywhere else out in the open), the chances are almost 100 percent that it would NOT be a brown recluse spider. There is a reason they are called 'recluse'...
Kojak
Grovetown, GA

November 11, 2011
6:01 PM

Post #8886508

Was hesitant to bring this thread back up, but i see someone did very recently. Just found the spider mentioned in this thread in my house tonight. Had it not been for our Dog pointing it out, my girlfriend probably wouldnt have seen it cowering at the threshold of our door waiting to get outside. It was smashed before we even thought to look underneath for an hourglass, but i didnt notice one on the remains. What did stand out were the legs that weren't solid black, they were kind of striped black and tan, like the image posted just above. Would love to know if this is a widow or not. I'll let you know what orkin can tell me about the remains, if anything. Location: Augusta, GA.

Thumbnail by Kojak
Click the image for an enlarged view.

bokisan
Colorado Springs, CO
(Zone 4b)

November 12, 2011
8:02 AM

Post #8886947

kojak, ... definitely adolescent black widow

as they lose red and cream markings in successive moltings,
the amber bands on their legs darken, as well

This message was edited Nov 12, 2011 9:12 AM
bojanwish2
Oktaha, OK

January 19, 2012
3:23 PM

Post #8974658

Ithink that black widow is spider of your search..
try out some authorities:

http://www.spiderbitesymptomsguide.com/the-black-widow
http://www.medicinenet.com/spider_bites_black_widow_and_brown_recluse/article.htm
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/wilderness_black_widow_and_recluse_spider_bite/page2_em.htm
LadyAshleyR
Oakland, MD

January 20, 2012
5:46 AM

Post #8975141

Just adding in my two cents on the northern black widow.
Have definitely ween them with a spotty "stripe" as on our bug file.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/bf/showimage/13084/
If you haven't seen them already, you might want to take a peek, just to file that bit of info away.
I had never seen one before I went to visit my parents on the eastern shore of virginia.
Before the only experience I had ever had was with the typical hourglass.
But the shinyness and body shape are pretty unmistakeable.
hemlady
Melvindale, MI
(Zone 5a)

January 21, 2012
4:20 AM

Post #8976172

I actually think I had a juvenile northern widow in my daylily garden last summer. The web was a mess, no form or shape to it at all and a small white spotted black spider was in it. I had never seen a spider like this before. After reading how they can change color as they mature, I considered that I may have seen a young northern widow.
dustinm09
Magnet Cove, AR

July 30, 2012
3:31 PM

Post #9223959

you are not mistaken. in arkansas there are australlian redback spiders. i have seen them on many occations. being of the widow family they hide in the same cool dark and sometimes damp enviorment. a lot of times i will hastily mistake one for the other but in the end staying away is the best way to avoid them. their favorite place in the entire world to hide is in old tires that have a little water in them. there is a 90% chance of finding one here. i can go out in my yard and overturn a few objects and find a few of either species. and as far as the spiders in the dirt dobber nest goes; the perents build the nest of mud. they theyn lay the larva sach. before sealing the whole of they go around collecting a certain type of spider. the ones you saw. this is their favorite food. they stun them and close of the nest so that the baby will have food ready for it when it hatches and energy to escape from the hardend nest.
OWL158
Newport News, VA

August 13, 2012
11:35 AM

Post #9240131

We just found this guy in my car...crawling over my wife's shoulder. We live in Eastern Virginia and have no idea how it got in my vehicle. At first i thought it was a Black Widow but the bottom only had 2 small orange colored dots and the top displayed an orange red solid stripe.
Looks like what has been identified as a Red Black Spider?? Any guesses and are Red Blacks poisonous?

Thumbnail by OWL158   Thumbnail by OWL158
Click an image for an enlarged view.

Flapdoodle
Minot, ND

August 13, 2012
12:12 PM

Post #9240187

This looks like a harmless spider in the family Corinnidae - http://bugguide.net/node/view/560407

BTW, rather than appending a new image/question to an existing (and especially closed) thread, you should start a new one.

You cannot post until you register and login.


Other Insect and Spider Identification Threads you might be interested in:

SubjectThread StarterRepliesLast Post
SOLVED: Tiny Red Critters Angel 26 Apr 26, 2014 7:18 AM
SOLVED: Do you know what kind of Spider this is? dignbloom 55 Aug 18, 2012 4:36 PM
SOLVED: green caterpillar xox_kitkat_xox 4 Jan 24, 2010 9:05 PM
SOLVED: Name this insect? Dinu 16 Oct 19, 2008 2:54 PM
SOLVED: Red Spider about the diameter of a penny gardenwife 24 Oct 10, 2009 10:41 AM


We recommend Firefox
Overwhelmed? There's a lot to see here. Try starting at our homepage.

[ Home | About | Advertise | Media Kit | Mission | Featured Companies | Submit an Article | Terms of Use | Tour | Rules | Privacy Policy | Contact Us ]

Back to the top

Copyright © 2000-2014 Dave's Garden, an Internet Brands company. All Rights Reserved.
 

Hope for America