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duh!! this is not the pic I meant to post! Can not locte the one I though this one was! The pic in the post above this was not a Blue Jay but the pic is so bad...
#1 American Goldfinch - note stout pinkish-orange bill, plain bright yellow underside, white vent, white undertail with black edges.
#2 Tough with it being so blurred and hard to judge size. The blackish line round the face on the last pic makes me think Blue Jay; is that OK on size, behaviour, etc.?