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I bought Kopper Kettle last year (for 45.00, I got it half off because I work at a nursery) any ways I planted it in early Aug of last year. This year I was really excited and I thought that it would bloom, however no blooms not even buds yet. Is this characteristic of Itohs or am I just impatient, the leaves look great and it send up three stalks and is over all healthy.
You may get buds yet. They form buds very late in the growing process. My 'Bartzella' (another Anderson intersectional) has just gotten buds that are visable. Was it a good start? My first year I had two blooms, but the start was very large. These peonies are ones that get more robust every year.
So keep your eyes out for tiny buds beginning to form. They bloom later than most peonies, if I am remembering correctly from last year.
It was a pretty good start, probably not the best because it sat in the perennial section last year all spring, also it only had two stems that were significantly shorter than this year's stems. I have read your post about the bartzella and mine may not have been as good of a start as yours.
my question to Peachguy is... how deep or shallow did u plant ur peony? if u planted too deep, u definitely will not have any blooms. i am not assuming just b/c u work in the nursery u knew how to plant it properly. pls read some basics on planting peony. http://www.peonies.org/cgi-bin/showfaq.cgi
pls don't get me wrong and no offense intended, merely trying to help.
I plant it just above a root that was showing in the pot, so from the top of the soil to the first root will only be about 1/4-1/2 inch deep. From my knowledge I know that they are not to be planted deep, but your link is not loading for me so I am not sure if I planted to deep or not deep enough.
accdg to the above site, which is also giving me a hard time to pull up. i am glad i bookmark to see it's content
Quoting: Peonies should only be planted in the fall as 'bare roots'; consist of a couple of large thick roots with some pink buds. Older plants will develop a 'crown' composed of all the current and old bud materials-sort of between the buds and the roots.
If you plant peonies in spring and summer they are less likely to succeed or may take much longer to settle down. A typical purchased peony 'root' consist of 3 to five large pink buds and 1 to 3 thick roots up to about 6 inches long.
They must always be planted shallow - the buds should not be more than 2 inches below soil level. Plant them where the tips of the buds are 'just showing' at soil level. It soil washes away, always scrape a bit more soil on top or even scrape a bit more the first winter. If they are planted too deep they may not bloom.
Plant the roots in fall from Mid-Sept to late Oct and they do fine. They are just going dormant then, but the still warm soil allows some new root growth before cold temperatures.
Yes I think I must be patient because I checked to plant and yesterday and the roots were almost bulging at the surface, so now I know I didn't plant them to deep. I did however add about 1/4 of soil on top because I don't think it is good having the roots about the soil.
The only thing is it survived the winter with its roots that close to the surface and I really didn't add any mulch for the winter(we did however have a lot of snow and that could have insulated it). So I don't know if I should add more soil to surface around the plant, I don't want to add too much so that it would be below 2 inches. Does anyone have any suggestions?
I just saw the new post and in those pics i had to remove some soil so those root are about 1/2 inch down I am going to post a better picture of Cora Louise which is planted at the same depth as Kettle but I just planted it this year so it has not gone through a winter. the pic of Cora Louise is a little better and as I said both of them are planted at about the same depth. Also since you say i should plant them deeper, how should I go about doing that just add some soil to the top or wait until fall dig it up and replant it? As well i am going to take a better picture of kettle tomorrow because today I was pressed for time because a big thunderstorm came in and there was a tornado watch( imagine that a tornado watch In Ontario Canada) and I will have to go and survey the damage.
Of course the root should not be showing but other than that I dont understand your concern about no buds or blooms. Im not really familiar with the ITOH hybrids but I certainly would not expect to see buds on stems that small - mine are 18-24 inches before I start to see buds. And it was only mid May when you first posted.
My concern was that I was excited and wanted to see the blooms, then my concerns shifted when they might be planted to deep and now they might be planted to shallow. The pink stems in the post at 8:07 are all from Kopper Kettle and the pink stems in the picture at 8:14 are from Cora Louise(which is also an Itoh). I only showed the roots to show how deep it was planted, normally those roots are covered with 1/2 of soil. I am going to try and get full pictures of the plants tomorrow and and a better picture of the roots and eyes.
Here in zone 6, it takes me about 3 years to get blooms. Small buds form, but they fail to mature. The year after that, I tend to get good blooms. Even on plants that I paid a lot a lot $$ for. Peonies don't like being replanted after blooming in a pot and punish you for a couple of years. With that in mind, maybe next year will be magic for you. You probably did nothing wrong. I see that it is an intersectional. Keep in mind that if it is a tree peony, it has to be planted deeper than a herbaceous peony. It has a beautiful bloom.
I plan to move my ponies during the fall. What will happen if 3/4 of the leaves are cut off after blooming this season? This is an older plant that
was divided last year and has really grown out of bounds this year. When I say grown it is hiding my Endless Summer hydrangea. Now I
know the reason for proper spacing each plant.