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Wojisgal
Prospect Park, PA
May 26, 2008
01:12 PM Post #5005494
| If so, I'd appreciate any and all tips and tricks. |
Kathleen
Panama, NY
(Zone 5a)
June 02, 2008
05:45 PM Post #5042359
| Sorry I didn't post sooner. I bought some Crayola watercolor pencils to play with. I did drawings and then used a wet paint brush over them, got the pencils wet before using them, used them on wet paper. They were all interesting. I have a brushed tipped "pen" that you put water in and use over the drawing that I like very much
I think I have three different brands. The Derwent Inktense are the softest leads and the best quality, the Crayolas are basic, the Mongols are the hardest leads. I've used them on both paper and fabric. On fabric they become quite permanent after ironing for at least two to as much as 5 minutes.
I've always been pretty good with a pencil, but a total failure at getting the results I wanted with actual watercolor paints. This gives me a little bit of the best of both.
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Wojisgal
Prospect Park, PA
June 02, 2008
07:17 PM Post #5042777
| Thanks! Have you done whole pieces with them? They seem to be part of a mixed media rather than standing alone, to me. I'm having a lot of trouble finding much info on techinque at all.
Yeah, I also like the control. Have you tried regular colored pencil? |
Kathleen
Panama, NY
(Zone 5a)
June 02, 2008
08:55 PM Post #5043385
| I have regular colored pencils as well, but these give you a different feel
the waterbrush is the NIJI waterbrush. They have them at Dick Blick.
I have a couple of pictures, actually more major doodles. I'm always looking for different media to use on fabric, and don't really draw a lot other than working out things to work into my fabric. |
Kathleen
Panama, NY
(Zone 5a)
June 02, 2008
08:57 PM Post #5043408
| I'll try to remember to bring up the two pages I did with the Inktense pencils tomorrow. |
roybird
Santa Fe, NM
June 04, 2008
07:26 PM Post #5054399
| I carry a bunch of w.c. pencils when I'm painting outside. I mostly use the Derwent because they are not as saturated with color as some and it is easier to keep it light. If you have good, heavy paper you can also go wet and heavy with them, though. They seem to blend well with paint and each other. I will look for an example to post when I get to it. They are super for using in the car (not while I'm driving!) on a long trip. I got some other kind that were more expensive and had more colors but I forget what kind...Maybe PrismaColor w.c. ? I don't like them as well. They seem kind of plastic, somehow. I do not care much for regular colored pencils myself, so not much experience with them. If I want an under-drawing on a w.c. I really prefer the w.c. pencils. Love your art work, by the way! |
Kathleen
Panama, NY
(Zone 5a)
June 05, 2008
07:16 AM Post #5056503
| lol, doodles!
here are a couple of the learning experiments. This one is just leaves with only a touch of water after the fact The water, when applied lightly, smooths but doesn't completely cover the pencil marks.
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Kathleen
Panama, NY
(Zone 5a)
June 05, 2008
07:17 AM Post #5056504
| an organic piece that had a lot of layers, being brushed with water between 
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Kathleen
Panama, NY
(Zone 5a)
June 05, 2008
07:18 AM Post #5056508
| a lily that started out from a rock formation seen on the Science Channel. These are all on sketch book paper. Isn't it odd how things often start out one way and end up looking like a flower.
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roybird
Santa Fe, NM
June 05, 2008
10:07 AM Post #5057215
| Nice, Kathleen! I was thinking that w.c. pencil is very good to kind of "tweak" a w.c. painting if you want to emphasize something or sharpen an edge. I have a friend who works with them much the way you do, Kathleen. You can really build up layers of subtle color. |
Kathleen
Panama, NY
(Zone 5a)
June 05, 2008
10:30 AM Post #5057336
| Thank you. I've always wanted to paint, but it's not in me. I love your water colors and would love to do work like that, but with the pencils, I get the control I need and to play with the washes. |
Wojisgal
Prospect Park, PA
June 05, 2008
05:53 PM Post #5059269
| Thanks for all these Kathleen!
Roy, thanks! Looking forward to your examples.
I have used wc pencil on top of acrylics, also used prismacolors over acrylics. I don't think wc would work very well on top of the regular cps. I also want to be able to use them "on location", like at my lunch hour. Most all of my work is regular cp, and I work pretty fast for a cp artist, but still, they take a while, think the wcs would a little faster. |
roybird
Santa Fe, NM
June 05, 2008
11:36 PM Post #5061033
| Here you go! These are not very good photos but hope you can see what I mean. This was done in the car as my D.H. drove us through the Imperial Valley in Ca. last March. 
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roybird
Santa Fe, NM
June 05, 2008
11:41 PM Post #5061060
| This one was also done in the car. They are mostly w.c. pencil ( and water applied with a small brush ). As you can see, I got pretty "heavy" with it which is why I always use a good w.c. paper. 
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roybird
Santa Fe, NM
June 05, 2008
11:45 PM Post #5061074
| This more what I meant about using the w.c. pencil as a drawing tool with the water color paints. And to tighten edges or accent something. 
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roybird
Santa Fe, NM
June 05, 2008
11:49 PM Post #5061096
| I'm not very good at photographing my art work. But, anyway, this is another piece using the w.c. pencils with paints. A detail from a larger painting. 
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roybird
Santa Fe, NM
June 05, 2008
11:54 PM Post #5061125
| And one more quick sketch. Pleine aire, however you spell it. You know what I mean! The Derwent w.c. pencils are fairly versatile. 
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Kathleen
Panama, NY
(Zone 5a)
June 06, 2008
06:37 AM Post #5061790
| Really nice stuff! |
Wojisgal
Prospect Park, PA
June 06, 2008
04:39 PM Post #5064259
| Thanks Roy this is inspiring!! |
roybird
Santa Fe, NM
June 06, 2008
07:26 PM Post #5065049
| Thanks. Those pencils are so easy to use, too. |
