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snipe
Burleson, TX
(Zone 8a)
May 27, 2008
03:05 PM Post #5010942
| I downloaded the free version of AVG a couple of weeks ago and since then have had some screen freeze problems. I did not understand this at first and thought that the program was causing some problems with my computer. Well I did some looking at the new program that was downloaded and noticed a links checker.
What ??????????????
Well I have noticed of late that any time I do a goggle search that I have whirlies next to each link that end up with a green star and a check mark. Duh turns out that link checker scopes out any links that are on a page to see if they lead to web sites that aren't safe and gives you an OK rating, a warning, or flat out blocks the site altogether. How cool is that! This is the cause of my freeze ups, probably because I'm still in the stone age dial up. :) |
Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)
May 29, 2008
11:53 PM Post #5024284
| Snipe,
I have been running AVG for almost 2 years now--and now I am getting this Update to 8.0 window every time I first go to any page--like DG.
It is saying that after 5/31 there will be no more updates available for my current 7.75 (?) version. When I clicked on "more Information"--seems there will be a steep fee (at this time anyway) to upgrade to the 8.0. --like $54.99.
Did you upload a FREE version of the 8.0? Or--was it a lesser one?
IS THERE a free version for this 8.0 upgrade????? Sure would like to have it!
Gita
Here's the window I am getting all the time.
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Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)
May 29, 2008
11:58 PM Post #5024307
| And--when i click on the "More information"--this is part of the window that comes up.
Note the price in the lower left-hand corner!
Has anyone else gotten this?
If anyone can track down a truly free download to this 8.0 upgrade--please post it here.
Thanks, Gita
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JoParrott
Richland, WA
(Zone 5b)
May 30, 2008
10:27 AM Post #5025701
| It is sorta tricky and you have to click through several places, but there IS a free version! Here is the link where I went just now
http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-223...
Hope this helps-
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JoParrott
Richland, WA
(Zone 5b)
May 30, 2008
10:28 AM Post #5025706
| PS- Just ignore the flashing download link on the right- it's something else! |
Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)
May 30, 2008
01:56 PM Post #5026611
| Jo,
Thanks a lot! Now I have to get my Son-In-Law here to install it!
I just love DG! For this very reason!!!!
Gita
My first Red Epi bloom this year. I am a gardener--don't know if you are! ALL firsts--lasts--and everything in between, is special to us!
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JoParrott
Richland, WA
(Zone 5b)
May 30, 2008
02:27 PM Post #5026722
| Yes, I have been digging in the dirt for about 50 years! I worked in several greenhouses over about 25 years, mostly in LA Moved to FL 6 years ago, and just now relocated to WA- a BIG change! I'm happy that the AVG worked for you- |
Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)
May 30, 2008
08:34 PM Post #5028170
| Jo,
I have not yet upgraded...need to wait for my SIL to come over here and do it. I do not have the Tech. confidence to tackle installing something new.
I have also worked for about 25 years in garden-related jobs. Landscape crew--for a grower taking care of 5 greenhouses of houseplants--Then for a chain store, in charge of the houseplant Dept.--In a small plant/flower shop--and now, 10 years at a Home Depot. The first 5 I was in charge of the WHOLE Greenhouse-full of plants. This also included Pond supplies. In the last 5 years, due to bad knees and a lot of related surgeries, I have been working in the Phone Center as an Operator.
My hear still belongs to garden, though!
Washington and Oregon have the BEST weather for gardening--and--the most beautiful gardens! Been there several times--as my In-Laws live there and also my youngest Daughter--going on 8 years now. She lives in Seattle. Don't know how far that is from Richland. She owns a Natural Pet Care store called "Four Legs Good" in the Wallingford N. section of Seattle.
Gita |
JanMary1
San Ramon, CA
May 30, 2008
10:10 PM Post #5028654
| Hi Gita,
Read the post about AVG 8, and wondered if the freezes were the same thing I get, but know what they are now..it' s when updates are taking place or scan is operating...things get a little sticky.
But my question is: What is an Epi? It's gorgeous! Do they only come in red? Will they grow in No. Calif.?
JanMary |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
May 31, 2008
12:23 AM Post #5029287
| Hi everyone ...I have been watching some Australian threads that have said that the AVG Free 7 (current one) is supported until sometime in Dec 08 ...can anyone confirm that ?...the same place states that the slowing of the computers is due to a new "security patch " in Windows (a recent update) ...What do you think? ...and can anyone confirm that AVG 7 is ok until then ?... because I am very happy with it. |
JoParrott
Richland, WA
(Zone 5b)
May 31, 2008
01:05 AM Post #5029403
| There is a new free upgrade-version 8-(see the link above in my earlier post)- it has many improvements- |
Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)
May 31, 2008
05:05 AM Post #5029694
| JanMary1,
An Epi is short for Epiphylum. I thought almost everyone in CA knows about it. That is where I got my original cuttings from. Epiphylums are plants the grpw up in the crotches of trees and do not need soil. Orchids are ALL epiphylums...
It is a member of the Orchid Cactus family. If you go to the "Orchid cactus" Forum--you will see your fill of these. That is a very large group of plants and has all kinds of varieties and colors.
My area is not a year round outside one for the Epis. I have to bring them in for the winter. |
Eggs_Zachtly
Washington, MO
(Zone 5b)
May 31, 2008
08:33 AM Post #5030070
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| Quoted: | | Orchids are ALL epiphylums |
Not true at all. Some are lithophytes (growing on rocks). And, almost all temperate orchids are terrestrial.
Epiphyllum is a genus of 19 species of ephiphytic plants in the family Cactaceae (cactus). That's only a very small portion of the number of orchids. There are thousands of orchid species.
Just pointing it out because of the emphasis you put on the word "ALL". Be careful with "blanket" statements such as "ALL" (especially capitalized, giving emphasis). They rarely hold true. =)
Cheers,
Eggs |
Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)
May 31, 2008
04:24 PM Post #5031820
| Eggs--
Mea Culpa! I am showing my ignorance in generalizations of what I "think I know"!
I SO stand corrected! Sorry!
Gita |
Eggs_Zachtly
Washington, MO
(Zone 5b)
May 31, 2008
08:05 PM Post #5032784
| No need to apologize. While the discussion turned way OT for this thread (apologies to snipe) and forum for that matter, I just wanted to point out what I read in case someone reading it in the future decided to "get into" orchids. =)
Cheers,
Eggs |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
May 31, 2008
09:29 PM Post #5033053
| For anyone who can't choose right now *ditherer here* we have until the 31st if Dec to make up our minds as to which way to go ...so for now I am sticking with 7.5 free ...I see lots have uninstalled AVG 8 and gone back to 7.5 free ...perhaps it's a capacity issue or whatever ...gonna talk to some computer Nerds before I choose.
Thanks everyone  |
Eggs_Zachtly
Washington, MO
(Zone 5b)
June 01, 2008
04:28 AM Post #5034456
| I've not upgraded to AVG 8 yet, nor do I have any immediate plans to. Since it's release, there have been a lot of people having issues with it. I'll continue to use 7.5 until either they no longer support it, or the problems with version 8 subside to a more acceptable level.
My $.02
Eggs |
golddog
Western, PA
(Zone 6a)
June 01, 2008
09:07 AM Post #5035015
| When I first had Vista AVG, it was difficult to install, so I went to PC Tools AntiVirus. It seems to run easily; no problems in a year. |
snipe
Burleson, TX
(Zone 8a)
June 02, 2008
09:54 AM Post #5040274
| Well DG is getting a little slow in its old age I just got the update this morning that there were new posts!
The freeze frame is from the link checker. I disabled mine due to it slowing things down to much. Makes the AVG icon unhappy though.
I have also noticed that my computer has gotten a little jerky and wondered if it was due to AVG or something else, thanks for the heads up on the MS patch, I'll check with my computer guru and see if he has noticed it as well.
Here is the link provided to me which is idiot proof for the mediocre computer users such as myself. :)
http://www.grisoft.com/ww.93825.tpl-mcr1
Where it says recommended download click on the link just below it that says Download.
It will take you to a second page and just hit download now button. It will walk you through from there. Be warned its a large file for those of you who are still on dial up.
I sometimes think they use us freebie junkies as their crash test dummies for new programs so they can work out the kinks before they give them to people who actually pay for their services! :)
So strap on your helmets, buckle up and get your hankie ready, and away we go! :) |
tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)
June 11, 2008
04:42 PM Post #5088910
| Well, on my son's laptop, i've just ditched Norton's. I've had nothing but headaches on this computer with Nortons -- that i just got fed up.
so, now i'm using the Windows firewall and AVG ver8
I know my dad, who was always a norton's user... got me started back around '97 ... he uses AVG on his GF"s computer, where he still uses Nortons System Works... i think he got rid of anti virus ... said it's so sluggish.
my subscription runs out in Nov '08 ... i will probably get rid of it too. Why pay $$ yearly when you can get good programs for free.
we shall see how it goes. |
snipe
Burleson, TX
(Zone 8a)
June 12, 2008
08:05 AM Post #5091835
| I have had no problems in the last 3 years with anything from the net getting into my computer using avg and windows defender, both are free versions.
I despise firewall. I also use firefox and gmail. goggle does an excellent job of controlling internet creepy crawlies and is by far more user friendly than any other mail and browser system I have seen yet. |
Eggs_Zachtly
Washington, MO
(Zone 5b)
June 12, 2008
04:54 PM Post #5094236
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| Quoted: | | I despise firewall. |
Why? |
snipe
Burleson, TX
(Zone 8a)
June 13, 2008
09:04 AM Post #5097400
| I have to give permission to scratch my nose. Firefox checks sites before I even go there to see if its safe, they have blocked me more than once due to an unsafe site or at the least they warn me first. gmail scans my email before it is opened for viruses and so does avg. And last but not least firefox is ten times user friendlier than IE7.In the last 3 years with this system I must have visited more than 10 thousand sites and not once had my computer attacked or hacked, but I find all kinds of trash in my virus vault along with Trojans and what not and those are the ones that are good enough to slip through the first line of defenses that require nothing in the way of effort from me.
I have a father in law who has to take his computer in regularly due to these things and refuses to use defender, avg and firefox, he sends me emails that are forwarded to him all the time that gmail and avg have a fit about with enough warnings to choke a horse. |
Eggs_Zachtly
Washington, MO
(Zone 5b)
June 13, 2008
03:24 PM Post #5099230
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| Quoted: | | I have to give permission to scratch my nose. |
A properly configured firewall isn't intrusive to one's surfing.
| Quoted: | | ...gmail scans my email before it is opened for viruses and so does avg |
The AVG email scanner is a redundant waste of resources. If you're running the resident scanner, there's no need for the email scanner.
| Quoted: | | ...I must have visited more than 10 thousand sites and not once had my computer attacked or hacked, but I find all kinds of trash in my virus vault along with Trojans and what not and those are the ones that are good enough to slip through the first line of defenses that require nothing in the way of effort from me. |
If you're running Windows (any flavor), and you're not behind a router, and you're on a highspeed connection, you really should be behind a firewall. Windows has open ports by default. You don't need to be surfing websites for someone to be able to access your insecure machine.
It's quite comparable to Russian Roulette.
My $.02 |
Dyson
Rocky Mount, VA
(Zone 7a)
June 13, 2008
03:45 PM Post #5099323
| Most people are under the false impression that a firewall will keep viruses out of their computer when the use of a firewall is to keep people from retrieving data from the machine.
The firewall will allow "spy" etc programs to enter the machine but it will prevent those programs from sending data out without permission and the settings can be tricky to allow the data you need a program to access without unwanted data retrieval
The best bet is to not store sensitive data on your machine in the first place. This becomes more difficult as more services are accessed "on line". IE. banking, bill payment etc.
The simple fact of the matter is that if you can do it on line - someone can figure out how to see it. Sooner or latter, every block is undone (copyrights, security etc). Then they make a new one, and then someone nails that block. And it really is an endless loop.
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snipe
Burleson, TX
(Zone 8a)
June 16, 2008
08:48 AM Post #5110888
| Well my biggest question is why even have to mess with a firewall? As I said I use firefox and gmail both of which belong to google who has done a very good job of watching what goes on and blocks I don't know how much before it even gets to me, google is after all bigger than MS. Google is in the advertisement business not the programs business so they take care of their costumers without looking to sell them programs. Google makes their systems user friendly because the larger their costumer base the more advertising they get. They don't shove the advertising down you throat either it is always discreet unlike all of the other platforms you use, especially on the email accounts. Their tool bars are easy to understand and to use.
As I said 3 years and no attacks no matter how much I play or where I go because firefox and gmail go there before I do and check it out first and I don't have to worry about it. Add to that avg and windows defender and what little google misses they catch.
The number one lesson I have learned is don't give out your info on the net to anyone which is the number one mistake people make. Don't open emails from people you don't know and if you do avg asks if you want them to look at it first, so if you want double redundancy of gmail checking it and then avg whats wrong with that? You already know that attacks come in the form of attachments and website links.
It has been my experience that firefox and gmail work hand in hand with each other ln doing a good job of watching what goes on in the way of what you receive in emails that are the number one way in which your computer is attacked. When it comes to websites firefox uses spiders to keep track of those and identifies bad sites and lists them in their main frame so it knows about them long before you ever go to visit them, ie7 and MS don't do that, your on your own baby,which is why they use firewalls, google spiders never sleep. If I am ever curious which is rarely I can go to google analytics and see whats new in the way of places not to go.
So why configure anything, why have to set up anything that to me is not user friendly, and if you get it wrong well thats your fault not theirs. I like having 24/7 computer geeks who do those things for me especially since they are being paid to do nothing but play games with the folks who like being malicious with computers. Instead of waiting for MS to identify and then send out patches to correct for what computer hacks do I prefer someone who is there and doing something about it as soon as a hacker or virus is identified, so long as they continue to do just that I will stick with google.
As well hackers aren't near the threat that tv has made them out to be. Its the viruses that have to be watched out for and those are simple to avoid with a little protection. I learned a great deal about hackers and what they can and can't do at a hackers website. Very enlightening.
http://atlantisdude.blogspot.com/2008/03/hackers-hand-book.h... |
Zanymuse
Scotia, CA
(Zone 9b)
June 16, 2008
09:02 PM Post #5114280
| Eggs_Zachtly,
| Quoted: | | If you're running Windows (any flavor), and you're not behind a router, and you're on a highspeed connection, you really should be behind a firewall. Windows has open ports by default. You don't need to be surfing websites for someone to be able to access your insecure machine. |
I have always used a firewall on all three of our computers at home but when we moved we had to replace our Wireless router and reset up a network. The thing would not work so we called their tech number and were told to turn off our firewalls. When we did that it worked fine. Is this because the new routers are equiped with their own firewalls or are we wide open even though we are showing as being a secure network with a password required to access? |
Eggs_Zachtly
Washington, MO
(Zone 5b)
June 16, 2008
09:47 PM Post #5114591
| Most routers have a built-in firewall, yes. You should be able to access its settings from your browser. Just type in the address of the router (ie: 192.168.0.1) in the Address bar, and you should be prompted by a login box. The router's documentation should have all of the info.
It may be that your software firewall was blocking access to the router. Disabling it was the easiest way for the router tech to allow access. Your having a software firewall was of no concern to him. His job was just to get you connected via the router, period. It's worth checking if your router has a built-in firewall (and learn how to configure it). There's no sense in having a firewall if you leave it wide open. =)
My $.02 YMMV
Eggs |
Zanymuse
Scotia, CA
(Zone 9b)
June 16, 2008
10:32 PM Post #5114856
| Thank you Eggs. I'll do that as soon as I get home from work tonight. In this day and age I do not want my computers to be left open and inviting trouble! |
Dyson
Rocky Mount, VA
(Zone 7a)
June 17, 2008
06:26 AM Post #5115734
| Some routers will not assign a local network IP addy until they receive a request from the computer to do so. Some firewalls will not allow this request to be sent. |
Zanymuse
Scotia, CA
(Zone 9b)
June 17, 2008
12:24 PM Post #5117212
| When they helped us set it up they had us type in the ip address (my DH did this) but when I try it now it just says page not found. I think I am going to have to call them again to get any firewall info in it. |
dwdruley
South Bend, IN
(Zone 5b)
June 18, 2008
10:26 AM Post #5122161
| Here's what Spybot gave me seconds after AVG 8.0 ran. If I further stack Ad Aware on to this periodic preventative maintenance I'll post that result also FYI only.
This message was edited Jun 18, 2008 10:28 AM
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andidandi
Arlington, VA
June 22, 2008
12:50 PM Post #5142701
| Eggs_Zachtly - Does what you say about being behind a router apply to a computer connected to a wireless router as well? That is, if I have a laptop that connects to my own wireless service, but the router is connected physically to a desktop in the house? |
Eggs_Zachtly
Washington, MO
(Zone 5b)
June 22, 2008
05:12 PM Post #5143680
| I have the same type of setup. Wireless router, hardwired to two machines, and another connects via wireless. The router's firewall affects wireless connections also. It's also important to secure your wireless connections with a key. Running an open, wireless network invites trouble. |
Dyson
Rocky Mount, VA
(Zone 7a)
June 22, 2008
05:29 PM Post #5143750
| I run mine open - and even invited my neighbor to use my signal, he bought a range extender (relay point) and mounted it in his shed that sits between our houses after I configured it.. No problems so far - of course I am not doing nuclear research or brain surgery so what if I care about security.
Anyone who wants to see anything on my network is welcome to pull up in front of the driveway with a wireless card and try (getting through the network settings may take you awhile but if you are out there long enough for me to spot you, I may come out and give you a hand, in the interest of saving you from wasting time).
Good rain yesterday & today, happy dance at not having to water! |
andidandi
Arlington, VA
June 22, 2008
07:50 PM Post #5144201
| Eggs_Zachtly - Thanks. I use a key (or least I think I do). I was just curious whether the wireless was also protected by the router or if whatever you were referring to only applied to physical connections.
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Eggs_Zachtly
Washington, MO
(Zone 5b)
June 23, 2008
05:07 AM Post #5145708
| Dyson, just some food for thought: If someone other than your neighbor connects to your network, and does some sort of illegal activity using your network, *you* are the one that will be held responsible. |
JoParrott
Richland, WA
(Zone 5b)
June 23, 2008
11:01 AM Post #5146821
| I am looking for help with networking- I just moved here and have 2 pcs-one at each end of the house.I don't really want to go wireless (any opinions on that are welcome). At the moment I have a cable strung through the house, but that will not work permenently. I have heard about a device that plugs into the household electricity to network the 2 pcs. (I think it is called powerline PNA) I would appreciate any advice pro & con on them. |
Dyson
Rocky Mount, VA
(Zone 7a)
June 23, 2008
12:39 PM Post #5147278
| Jo - have had no experience with that however before I went wireless, I replaced a 75ft piece of cat 5 cable that was run under the house twice - because of mice. It ain't cheap.
Eggs - I appreciate that, but the people who use my signal do not access my machines on the network, like I said, getting the network settings would be difficult at best. |
Zanymuse
Scotia, CA
(Zone 9b)
June 23, 2008
12:55 PM Post #5147384
| Well, after another long stint on the phone with the IT guys I am finally set up with a secure network that is encrypted, pasword protected and behind a firewall! I hope I never need to do that again because I can't remember all the steps we had to take to get it done! But I feel safer now and may even feel safe enough to try online banking... Maybe...lol...I am such a coward! |
alaska_rick
Juneau, AK
(Zone 5a)
July 04, 2008
01:02 AM Post #5201810
| AVG = bad news
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/26/avg_disguises_fake_t...
Maybe their intentions are good but AVG is really driving up bandwidth usage with fake scans. |
morrowsmowers
Glassboro, NJ
(Zone 7a)
July 05, 2008
07:22 PM Post #5209333
| After having bad experiences with anything Nortons, we started using Avast! which is available for free as a download. It has worked very well and never given us any problems. It even updates on a regular basis automatically. We used Comodo's free firewall program as well, even though we connect through a router. We use Network Magic to control the network settings and security.
Ken in Glassboro, NJ |
JoParrott
Richland, WA
(Zone 5b)
July 06, 2008
02:25 PM Post #5213006
| I just lost my long post-here I go again!
AVG 8 is giving me trouble lately. Every day I see the exclamation point on the AVG tray icon telling me it needs to restaer to complete an update. ver 7.5 always did that automatically. After reading several posts here about ver 8 problems, I tried uninstalling it. I still have the exe of 7.5 and thought I would reinstall that. But I get this error message-see photo- should I try it in safe mode? I appreciate all of the help I get here-
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golddog
Western, PA
(Zone 6a)
July 06, 2008
02:41 PM Post #5213082
| Seems AVG is not what it used to be. It is now cumbersome and difficult to understand. When I first bought Vista, AVG was awful, slowing down the computer to a crawl. Now I have PC Tools AnttiVirus (free), and am not looking back.
Why battle AVG, there are several other choices to save one's sanity. |
JoParrott
Richland, WA
(Zone 5b)
July 06, 2008
03:10 PM Post #5213220
| Golddog, I am inclined to agree with you- I just tried to uninstall in safe mode and that doesn't work either. Will deleting the AVG folder in windows explorer do the job? |
Dyson
Rocky Mount, VA
(Zone 7a)
July 06, 2008
03:26 PM Post #5213290
| Try running Adaware. |
Eggs_Zachtly
Washington, MO
(Zone 5b)
July 06, 2008
05:12 PM Post #5213704
| Jo, did you turn AVG off, before trying to uninstall? You may have to kill all of the processes first. |
JoParrott
Richland, WA
(Zone 5b)
July 06, 2008
06:24 PM Post #5214102
| Yes, I turned it off. I also went into task manager and unchecked all AVG stuff there, then went intoservices and did it there too. Finally I think it all got gone. Next time I went into Control Panel to uninstall, it said it couldn't be found, and did I want to remove it from the listings-so I think it's gone. I may try installing 7.5, but I have Symantec antivirus and it runs way outta my way! So I think I am covered. By the way, are Symantec & Norton one and the same? I ask because I downloaded Avast and it told me that my system had Norton & Symantec running- and that because of that Avast would not load. I cannot find anything saying Norton on my PC doing a search. |
