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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 10, 2008
5:30 PM

Post #5083058

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/675791/#new

That's a link to last year's slightly massive thread on my 20-foot circle herb garden. This is a pic I took this morning for anyone who is interested. The arch is gone, thanks to a windstorm several weeks ago, and I don't plan on replacing it.

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 10, 2008
5:32 PM

Post #5083062

Here is the north quarter, with comfrey doing VERY well, and yarrow taking over quite a bit:

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 10, 2008
5:33 PM

Post #5083067

And to the east, where the lemon balm is... shall we say... well established:

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 10, 2008
5:35 PM

Post #5083073

The south, where the maypop is no longer (windstorm) but the rosemary reigns. Is the St. John's wort getting out of hand? I mean seriously, it seems to be a lovely ground cover but I'm worried that it's going to strangle the dwarf pomegranate:

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 10, 2008
5:36 PM

Post #5083079

And the west, with bee balm, valerian, aloe, and oregano, among others:

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 10, 2008
5:38 PM

Post #5083083

Here you see how the SJW is taking over. The pomegranate is the little thing between the small bamboo stakes. I just pulled quite a bit of SJW away from it. How worried should I be, if anyone knows? Or should I just let it go?

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 10, 2008
5:39 PM

Post #5083086

That's stevia right in the center, between the rosemary and the pineapple sage.

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 10, 2008
5:41 PM

Post #5083101

AND LAVENDER THAT HASN'T DIED!!!

That's it for now. I'm so busy in the vegetable garden (you can see it WAY in the background in the first picture) that I hardly have time for the herbs. I picked 16 tomatoes this morning, and the fewest I've picked any day in the last couple of weeks is eight. Yum. 'Mater sandwiches.

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dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

June 10, 2008
6:13 PM

Post #5083222

Simply incredible. Thanks for posting.
herbalbetty
Middleburgh, NY

June 11, 2008
11:09 PM

Post #5089562

Brigid! Your herb garden is lovely. What type of St. John's do you have? That's not Hypericum perforatum.
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 13, 2008
2:12 PM

Post #5097679

Ruh roh. Do I only think that's SJW? That's what I planted there, and what you see is what grew, so that's what I assumed this was. Hmmm... maybe I'll get out a herb book... and a weed book...
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

June 13, 2008
3:04 PM

Post #5097962

LOL brigidlily I am rather fond of nuturing weeds all summer until someone tells me :-)
herbalbetty
Middleburgh, NY

June 13, 2008
7:15 PM

Post #5099182

LOL. Hey, it's only weed if you don't know a use for it!

Here's a pic of my St. John's (H. perforatum). It gets about 2-3 feet tall. You can tell if it is perforatum by taking one of the oval leaves and holding it to the sky, you should see little "holes" (they are oil glands) in the leaves. Hence the perforatum name.

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 16, 2008
3:30 PM

Post #5111633

That's growing wild out by the ditch. Go figure.

Anybody know what's growing in my garden? I'd hate to leave it and it crowds out the pomegranate, but then I'd hate to pull it and find out it's a rare and valuable cure for Alzheimer's.
herbalbetty
Middleburgh, NY

June 17, 2008
7:12 PM

Post #5118016

Brigidlily, can you get a close up of your plant??
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 18, 2008
2:04 PM

Post #5122023

Thought of that this morning as I pulled more up, but didn't go get the camera. I will, though -- since it's growing so well I'd surely love to know what it is!
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

June 19, 2008
4:32 PM

Post #5127939

Wow! Your garden has filled in gorgeously!

Groundcovers are wonderful... they look good, help hold moisture in the soil, and keep down weeds. I do the same thing you did, pull them back a bit from any plant that's just getting started. If you pull up a big of your mystery plant and it seems to have fairly shallow roots, probably you don't have to worry about it strangling or out-competing anything else.
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 19, 2008
6:24 PM

Post #5128472

Forgot to get the picture, but this thing is sending roots out. So far what I've needed to pull has been easy, though.
herbalbetty
Middleburgh, NY

June 19, 2008
8:42 PM

Post #5129070

Eeeps! Don't pull it til you know if you need it or not! Like you said, it might be something valuable, I just can't tell from the pic above!
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

June 19, 2008
11:22 PM

Post #5129869

I think she's just pulling it from around the base of her dwarf pom so far. :-)
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 20, 2008
2:09 PM

Post #5132576

Here's a closeup of it in the ground.

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 20, 2008
2:11 PM

Post #5132585

And here is a runner I pulled up. Any ideas, anyone? It does not have a strong smell -- just kind of smells like plant, if you know what I mean. No flowers, though I don't recall whether it flowered at all last year. I'll put these on the plant ID forum as well.

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 3, 2008
2:05 PM

Post #5197945

It finally blossomed, and it looks like SJW to me. Any ideas, anyone? Thanks!

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herbalbetty
Middleburgh, NY

July 4, 2008
12:42 AM

Post #5200830

it sure does look like St. John's! Weird that it would be so low to the ground prior to blooming though. Can you see little holes in the flowers and leaves of your SJW when you hold it up to the sky? If so, it is Hypericum perforatum. Also, when you bruise the flower between your finger and thumb, your digits should turn red-purple.

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 7, 2008
2:31 PM

Post #5217252

I'll take a look (and a squeeze) when I get home this evening. We'll figure this out!
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 9, 2008
3:11 PM

Post #5229260

Definitely perforated! It's really odd about the growth habit, though. The bits that bloom are quite a bit more upright, but the leaves on the "carpet" are perforated. Hmmm.
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 26, 2008
2:32 PM

Post #5469770

Pardon me for bumping this, but my herb garden looked and smelled and felt so good and lush this morning it was almost song. Here's a pic:

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 26, 2008
2:33 PM

Post #5469772

Here is Pat Austin blooming:

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 26, 2008
2:34 PM

Post #5469775

Rainbow Sorbet:

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 26, 2008
2:35 PM

Post #5469781

Cosmos and basil under a rose:

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 26, 2008
2:36 PM

Post #5469784

Marigold and aloe in front of valerian:

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 26, 2008
2:37 PM

Post #5469794

Rosemary:

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 26, 2008
2:39 PM

Post #5469800

(Final) Thyme and oregano on the other side of the valerian (which is hard to tell from the monarda; both got BIG):

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critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

August 26, 2008
5:32 PM

Post #5470451

Luscious!! Thank you for sharing with us... I could just imagine those heady scents!
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 26, 2008
5:43 PM

Post #5470487

I could have stayed home and smelled it all day long.
herbalbetty
Middleburgh, NY

August 26, 2008
10:31 PM

Post #5471465

Lovely!!!! What a delight.
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 27, 2008
2:16 PM

Post #5473954

Just realized this is the garden's third summer. There's still a lot of work to do on it, filling in spaces, etc., but most of what I've wanted is established. I've certainly learned a lot -- like don't let basil go to seed unless you really want lots of basil the next year, and don't even try to grow horehound in Texas! I'm realizing native plants really are the way to go. I'm sure a lot of what I have is exotic to Texas but still grows well, but (except for the veggie garden) I plan to stick with natives pretty much.
cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

August 27, 2008
4:18 PM

Post #5474393

You have a beautiful herb garden. Mine is scattered among my flowers. St Johns wort likes my garden path better than my flower beds and i just let him be.

I'm new to DG and love herbs. I've most of what brigedlily has except valerian.
Vickie
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 27, 2008
6:45 PM

Post #5474918

Thanks for the compliments, herbalbetty and cando1. I'm grateful this garden has taken off as well as it has. Sure wish I could grow that horehound, though! But I'm NOT COMPLAINING! :}
herbalbetty
Middleburgh, NY

August 27, 2008
6:47 PM

Post #5474927

Brigid, I grow horehound fine, but rosemary I have to take in the house for the winter. So, I'll grow the horehound, you grow the rosemary and between us we'll have all the herbs.
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 27, 2008
6:47 PM

Post #5474932

I knew we'd come up with a plan! ;)

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