Hey Moodene, the canna leaves on your Cleopatra are what some gardeners wait years for to see. Alot of them will just have small areas of the purplish dark color on them. Consider yourself one of the lucky ones. Thanks for sharing the photo with all of us. Very Nice indeed!
That is sooo cool . This is my first year to grow Cleopatra ,mine has a wide stripe down the middle of each leaf . I find the blooms are just as interesting .The yellow polka dot petal on the left is attatched to the same petal as the red/orange .But after the blooms fell off a couple of weeks ago ,and the canna rebloomed the flowers were solid red/orange. Now I go out every day to check it out to see if anything new is going on...lol I can't wait to see what your blooms will look like. So be sure to post some pics.
Some of my Cleopatras had solid Maroon leaves and had mostly red blooms on them with a few yellow streaks in the red blooms.
I have noticed over the past 9 years that if my cleopatra had more green leaves then i had more yellow blooms, if it had more red leaves then it had more red blooms. One of my favorites Cause it is always different.
I've grown some cannas from seed. Nick the seed like you would morning glory seed, soak them in water for two to three days, changing the water daily, and then plant them in pots.
It takes about three to four months for them to flower. I have some that I started in April, and they will be ready to go into the garden at the beginning of September. I started them in early winter, keeping them away from any cold / frost, and expect them to flower within a month or two after being planted in the garden.
Cannas do tend to cross pollinate, but I also have some that look like the mother plants.
Please keep me in mind should you have some seeds to share...
I've never KEPT any seed...After the bloom goes down, I deadhead to keep the garden looking pretty. This year I've been cutting the stalk to the ground, and there is always more coming up. Even in the picture you can see where I have already whacked one off.
You would have to leave a stalk for the seed to dry. The flowers form seed "capsules" that seem to have little "thorns" on them. They grow nice and fat over some time, and then turn brown. That is when you can harvest the seed.
I have the following cannas should you be interested in seed (will only be towards the end of the year) (unfortunately I don't know their names:
Dark red, orange/red, apricot (with dark leaves), yellow with apricot spots, yellow with red throat, and then from the new plants I will hopefully have the following: white, shell pink, multi colored, and "Tropical Rose".
I can post some pictures if you are interested.
Oh my!! ALL of your canna's are just beautiful!! I am a canna and daylily nut!! daylily can stay in ground all year, but I have to dig up y cannas each year. I do not have a large variety or the unique types I saw here!! These are just beautiful! Thanks for posting the pic's!!! I enjoyed them. I'm soooo jealous!!!
morganc, I love your Orange Beauty. Really beautiful orange... All of my cannas are re-bloomers. Even now in the middle of winter, most has flowers on them. Mine also form more than one set of flowers on the same stalk, so I just cut out the spent flowers.
All of the cannas grow about 4-5 feet high, but the one with the red throat send out very tall flower stalks, and some end off being about 6 feet high.
lhettenhausen, let me know if I must save some seed for you in the coming season.
I have tropicanna and lucifer in pots. Lhettenhausen- if you buy the dwarf cannas you can put them in pots as I do. Then in the fall after first frost you can take them pot and all and put them in the garage. Tote them back out in spring. That's easy.
I just got my first dwarf this year. It is a real job to dig them up, but they are just soo beautiful!!! Bubba, I think I will try that for next year! I have elephant ear in some pots that I do that with.
Isn't it hard to get your plants out of a concrete planter in fall? Does it tear your hands up? I may try putting my black magic in a pot on my front porch next year. It is doing great where it's at, but the ears aren't really black. It has been suggested maybe it is getting too much sun. It only gets a little filtered sun, but maybe that's still too much.
Well. See. That's what happens when you talk to a woman! Just like I told my son last night. He couldn't understand how our conversations kept taking different directions. I told him that I was a woman, lots of things going on up here. I told him it was like word association, only its thought association.
I have 6 or 7 different varieties of cannas-----------and, they are all plagued with canna rollers. Does anyone have a good suggestion for dealing with them? I hate to put an insecticide in the soil as that will kill earth worms and other good guys. Right now I just cut off the offending leaf. The worms may not be so common in other parts of the country, but in tropical Mississippi they are quite prolific.
You rarely see the insect------------but, your leaves cannot open----and stay tightly rolled up. If you cut the webbing holding them together, you find that the leaves are damaged and unsightly. I think the rollers are most prevalent in humid climates (such as Mississippi).
WOW! Beautiful garden! I just bought my first stuttgart this year. I thought I got it planted in the shade, but apparently it is getting a little sun because I noticed this morning when I was watering it that the white part is burning and curling so I am going to have to move it. It looks like yours is getting sun. Isn't it burning? What is that you have planted to the left of it right in front of the tree?
What a lovely garden...looks so inviting. I tried growing Stuttgart afew years ago, but it fried with only early dappled sun here in Texas. Maybe I'll try one in full shade and see how it does. Yours look gorgeous...so of course I want one! :-)
Oh Shirley the garden and flowerbed with the brugs and stuttgart cannas is breath taking. I just love the way you have it outlined or edged in the bricks. Hummmmmm. Hmmmmmmm.
I have a small stuttgart that is not doing too well. I'm thinking I should move it to a different location. I do have about 15 different cannas and I love them all.
Moodene, I would not pull out a cleopatra that had mostly green leaves. I find that they offer you another form of beauty in the blooms they have. Keep some of all of them. Variety is what makes us want more cannas to start with.
Elsa123, I would love to exchange some canna seeds with you if you have any extra.
I'm making like paths and trails everywhere on my place. I just try to plant at least 2 of each canna if not more. I plant one on each side of the path of the same color/canna so it will look neat and matching when someone decides to stoll down a path. LOL
Shirleyd, I too have a few brugs and cannas that I have to haul water to. I've been making all these beds all over this old 35 acre non working farm and I got a little carried away. Therefore, I have to haul water to keep everything alive.
Right now I'm working on covering the banks of one of my creeks with cannas, elephant ears, and banana trees. (I'm crazy to say the least)
Another thing to anyone that has leaf rollers. I've found it best to cut the plant to the ground, and burn the leaves right then. It only takes those moths a few days to reproduce. I also read somewhere that they only lay like one egg on a leaf. That's bologna, if your like me and you don't see very good put your glasses on. I recently was able to find the little culprits as tiny as a 1/4 inch in length and about as big around as cornsilk. In other words alot smaller than I could see before. When they first get started I go out every morning and open the leaves, if I see any worms, I just squash them. I will say you have to stay on top of them because the reproduce like 5 different cycles here in TEXAS and they are a nightmare and make the leaves look terrible. I don't like to spray either, but sometime you do what you have to do.
Morganc, How are the Brugmansia's doing? My hycinth beans are taking over the world and the archway is looking really good.
I can't wait to see them bloom.
The Brugs are growing...have re-potted all. Two are in about a 6 inch pot, but two outgrew that and are in a larger pot. I have some in mostly shade, and others mostly sun. I've started feeding them and they improved with food. With this heat I just hoping they don't croak.
Hey Pam, feed them Brugmansia babies and they will grow like CRAZY. Mine are all planted in the ground. Some of the ones I had the same size of the ones I sent you are now like 4 ft tall. They require alot of water and fertilizer. I hope the doubles bloom for you this year. I'm not sure that any of the ones I kept are doubles. I think I've been had by someone on E bay. (frown)
Keep them watered and fertilized and they will be just fine.
I am having to haul water to over 1/2 of all my plants. I guess that's what I get for making all those neat little paths and trails everywhere. LOL
Elsa: Those are beautiful dear. I have 12 cannas in my beds now that are really tall ones, I have two that are showing dark burgandy and green leafs mixed also. I don't have any apricot blooms though yet. I just transplanted 7 into pots of the ones I started from seed. I still have about 45-50 more still in the peat pellets, looks like 12 are starting to grow too. I at first had them seperated according to color of the bloom, some white, some yellow, some red, some rose and some salmon; but, in moving them around they are all mixed up now. DUH. I planted some Rose Futurity's which are supposed to have coral colored blooms; but they are pinkish I think. I'd like to find an apricot one and I want to get a Stuttgard one for in the house.
My cannas flowered right through the winter, but didn't form seed like they do in summer. Temperatures are increasing, and I'm sure it won't be long before I have some seeds again. I'll put you on my Trade Tracker for some apricot ones. Will let you know when they are ready to be mailed.
I have started collecting cannas myself this season. Just LOVE the foliage! What I can't figure out is why mine are making seed pods which either fall of the plant while they are still green or even brown, but the brown ones you open up and there's nothing but fuzz inside. Surely they have been pollinated because I have had to watch for wasps and bees all summer while trying to water them.
Elsa: Thank you, I will try and figure out how to put pics on the computer here so you can see my cannas. I want to get a Stuttgart; but, since I live in Florida, I get mostly direct sunlight, so, will want to make it a house plant. I had leaf rollers; but treated with systemic and now they are gone. I cut the plant back, treated with systemic and it takes care of it. I'm anxious for rhizomes for cannas to be on sale again, I bought some from Easy to Grow, and every place I could think of, but now you can't get them, the reason I started some from seed. I have a 2,064 square foot house with a 30 x 12 deck and 20 ft ramp that I'm surrounding with cannas, so that will be a lot of them when I'm done. I love them. I dug my beds around the house double wide because I will probably put two rows around the front. Thank you for the offer, I will have to figure out that trade tracker, as I'd love to get some canna seeds and rhizomes.
bubba1, it may be that your cannas are infertile. I believe some varieties are (please correct me if I'm wrong), and I also found that they do that if the temp. isn't to their liking. Mine did this in the winter. However, they seem to have started producing proper seeds again. We've been having higher temperature for about 3-4 weeks now.
joy112854, I love the fact that they flower the first year from seed. I had some (started them in September 2007) flower in December 2007. I started some more seeds just before the winter. I kept them outside during winter (we didn't have any freezes) and they were planted about 6 weeks ago. I can't believe the amount of growth they have put on in that time. Can't wait for them to flower, as they are completely different from the ones I have at the moment.
Will post pictures as soon as they flower...
I am not sure about them being infertile. I have several different varieties. I purchased some from two separate vendors this spring on ebay. They are supposed to be cold hardy. They are all beautiful to me. One variety has green foliage and the blooms are orange set on stems that look purple. The pods are also purple. Another blooms orange with yellow spots; another yellow with orange spots. I think the stems these bloom on are green and the pods are green. Then I have some with green foliage that bloom yellow on green stems, and some that bloom yellow with orange spots. These are new to me and I love the spots! I also have some dwarf cannas. One I do know to be Lucifer. These pods are always fuzz. Now. I do have some cannas that are green foliage and red blooms that look somewhat like the indica cannas. I have had these for many many years but never knew until this year that cannas made seed. Which, of course, explained why I kept finding cannas coming up in my grass! I have collected several seeds from these cannas this year, but right now their pods seem to be making fuzz also. I have some red stripe cannas I got on a trade this spring. I just LOVE the foliage, but so far they have never bloomed. They are in part shade so I am thinking they are not getting enough sun. Then there is the stuttgart canna. Can't seem to give it ENOUGH shade.
Elsa: Some of the ones I planted from are really taking off and if they get big enough before winter they will be planted in the beds I have around the house. We get a little chilly here; but, I could always mulch if I had to.
Bubba: I want a Stuttgart myself; but, since I live in Florida I think I will make it a house plant as there are not many shady spots in my yard and I think it would make a beautiful house plant myself. I want to try and get some different varieties in my beds this year; so as soon as I can find some Rhizomes on sale, I'll be buying lots. LOL
bubba1: Thanks now if I can just figure out how to do this trade stuff and get with Brian and Elsa. Although I don't have anything to trade I don't mind buying them. LOL I know I'll order at least 50 rhizomes this January for sure, from someplace, can't ever have too many cannas.
I had thought about elephant ears; but my sister cautioned me on those as they take up the whole yard and multiply like crazy in this area and then you can't kill them. Besides with the elephant ears you only get big leafs, with cannas, you get pretty tropical blooms in a great variety of colors, simply awesome.
I LOVE elephant ears!!! I have about 50 of them right now! Can't get enough! I have to dig them up in the fall, but I love them. You know. If you planted elephant ears, you would eventually have something to trade with people or sell on ebay. Have you looked at the cannas on ebay? That's where I got several of mine. Also, I actually paid for the stuttgart from Brian, wasn't a trade. I think his store's web address is http://www.briansbotanicals.net. Let me know if that's correct. You will also find all kinds of tropicals there that would thrive in your zone. Lot of stuff there I can't buy 'cause of my zone.
Bubba: I thought the elephant ears were pretty myself, especially the black ones; but my sister said, my dad had made the mistake of buying a few and planting them and they just took over, I used to live in Ohio as a child and my dad always had the biggest tomatoes and corn you ever saw. He truly had a green thumb. He bought 10 acres of land here and built a house and him and my mother planted gardens galore, both could grow anything; but the elephant ears started getting into his veggies and that is a no no. He had problems getting rid of them, so I decided to take my sister's advice and not plant them to start with. The problem with this area is you have all clay and sand, so have to amend the soil a lot. My dad used to do that hisself, he was raised on a farm; but, I'm just a beginner, so, have had success with cannas growing fairly well. I had beds put all round the house, removed about 2/3rds of the soil there and threw out some of it and then mixed in good top soil or gardening soil or jungle grow to make it better for my cannas to grow. I have a friend who owns a few acres in South Florida, and keeps it natural in his yard, he has water oak trees, crotons and just keeps it natural, looks like a national park and is very beautiful; problem is, most of what he grows won't survive the winters up in NW Florida and I don't go with the natural habitat sometimes, I like cannas and that is why I plant them. LOL I also don't care for the pine trees either. LOL
Do you actually have a winter in Florida? I mean, it's not like Oklahoma winter, right? Did you check out brians botanicals and the cannas on ebay? Just type live canna plant ( otherwise you get everything they have with the word canna in it ) in the search.
Bubba1: Unfortunately, cannas that you google, you are told can't be gotten due to they are out of season; but, as luck would have it, I found an excellent place on line and did a search and found 3 beautiful cannas, one is a tall orange one, one is a Russian Red one, one is peach. The lady contacted me when I was persistent about her company not accepting cc's or other payment besides pay pal and she said she would take a check and just not mail them out til the check cleared, on further speaking with her, she also had a Bengal Tiger and a Stuttgart, so now this spoiled little brat has those coming too, of course! Not only that, she lives only 150 miles from me, we are neighbors. I'm so excited I'm almost doing handstands. To top it off, this morning I go outside and my much craved Rose Futurity was having it's first bloom, it was simply awesome. I wish my camera hadn't of been full so I could have taken a pic of all 12 of the cannas I have already in my beds in full bloom, they were simply breathtaking. I am remedying that problem though, as my sis is downloading all pics to her harddrive and then copying them to disc and then erasing the cards so I can get started taking pics of all these cannas. I have 7 that I know now will be hitting the beds before winter, and all 7 were planted from seed. I'm still making my Stuttgart my house plant as I don't have any shady spots in my yard.
Elsa: The lady's business name is Jenny's Gardens and she is located like 150 miles from me. It's so hard to get cannas this time of the year as not too many people are growing them up North; but, here in Florida we can grow them year round. My Stuttgart should be okay as a house plant you think?
Elsa: My thoughts exactly. I want a few of every kind of cannas in the beds around my house, will give a variety of color and will look so lovely I think. You figure my house is 2.064 square foot big and my deck is 30 x12 and a 20 ft ramp on the front leaves lots of room for lots of cannas, I made the beds in the fronts of the house double wide beds so I can place the cannas alternately and have twice as many. So far, there are only 12 in the beds; but, before I'm through hope to have about 100 of them. I have plenty of red ones, I would like some white ones, at least one, I have the Cleopatra, the King Humbert and salmon, yellow, red and rose ones. So; am looking for a different kind, I do favor the tall ones though, the dwarfs I'm putting round the deck ramp.
Hi Joy, please show us some photos! Can't imagine what your beds (and garden) must look like. My garden is about 150x36 feet (including the vegetable patch) Must add that I have flowers (and my cannas) growing in the "vegetable" garden. LOL!
I will hopefully have some white cannas this coming summer. I started some from seed, as well as a pearly pink, "Tropical Rose" and what was labeled as "multi colored". Will post pictures as soon as they are flowering...
Elsa: I have my beds which are double beds on both sides of the front of the house, the deck comes out from the front door, it's 30 x 12, being that the house is 2,064 square feet that makes pretty wide and long beds, I have planted 12 cannas on each front side, not to include I have beds on the sides of the house where I can plant 20 on each side, room for lots of cannas! Now; if I were to put a bed down the back of the house, hmmmm. LOL My veggie garden will go in back with tomatoes close to the back door; but, in grow boxes off the ground and on top of plywood that is on wooden construction horses, makes it easy to run outside and inspect leaves, twice daily with magnifying glass for horned catepillars to drop and stomp next season. Got my bengal tiger canna and stuttgart canna on the way, along with about 6 or 7 more. Christmas in September right? LOL
Elsa: Looks like I'll be a busy beaver soon. I have heard back from many people about cannas and have the following on order: 1 Sunny Delight, 1 Orange Beauty, 1 Florence Vaughan, 12 Robert Kemps, 12 Yellow King Humberts, 12 Cleopatras, 13 Wyoming Oranges, 1 Stuttgart, 1 Bengal Tiger, 1 Canna Peach (Gigantum), 1 Canna Lily Russian; not to include 7 babys from seed. The others are still not coming up; so, if they don't I won't be too disappointed right?
LOL! You definitely will be busy!! Hope you have someone to help you dig the holes... Please keep me in mind should you have any seeds to share. :-)
Your garden will definitely be stunning the whole year round...
Elsa: I have 3 very young gardeners (landscapers) that love working in my yard and garden and they don't charge me very much to do so either, it is their hobby, so they are having three days off work next week and will be here to do the preparing of the beds for the cannas. Here's the thing, do I really need a dozen of each? I am getting them for around $4 a Rhizome, that included shipping by Fed Ex, so maybe I might trade some for some I don't have, that might be a great idea you think? I figure it will take a few weeks to get them, as the guy wants to wait til my check clears the bank, I don't have pay pal, before shipping them, still that's pretty cheap isn't it?
I'm in zone 8 and at first was worried we might wind up getting an early cold spell that might mess up the project; but after research, I think I'll be fine. If I get even the least bit worried I can rush to the store and get mulch and mulch the babies up.
Joy, rhizome trading will be fun, but I'm not sure what our customs will do with life plants/tubers/rhizomes. Wouldn't want to have them confiscated to either dry out on some shelf or (even worse) end up in the official's garden and not mine!
They are very relaxed about letters coming into the country (scary actually!), but apparently they are stricter when it comes to parcels. :-(
I'm sure your rhizomes will be fine, especially once you've mulched. Mine flowered non-stop this past winter. The one I had before, used to go dormant in winter. Maybe it wasn't cold enough... but hey, I'm not complaining.
You are so lucky to have affordable labor. We have two gardeners in the complex where I stay, but I came to the conclusion a long time ago, that they pretend to not understand what is expected of them, just to prevent you from giving them extra work. They do the basic weeding - not in my garden as I have too many "unknown to them" plants in my garden - the one thought my Thalictrum that I nursed from seed, and was expecting to flower this summer was a weed, and got rid of it for me...), mowing of the lawn, watering etc. without me having to keep an eye on them (I am caretaker)
I did some planting last week (had hundreds of little plants that had to get settled, and in the process I pulled a muscle. Had to take it easy for three days, and boy! was it difficult?! I just love fiddling in the garden. Can't get enough!! LOL!
Elsa: I might store some of the rhizomes away til later since when they get here it will be considered Fall or early winter. Any suggestions on how to do this successfully, I've never done it before and have no clue what I'm doing.
I haven't stored any myself. Maybe someone with experience can give you some better advice, but I'd say if you keep them dry and frost free they'd be okay. I don't know if you should keep them in some soil or moss or something...
Anybody have an idea?
Maybe you can ask the suppliers if you don't get any feedback.
I store my bulbs in my garage in a brown paper bag. I think some people use peat moss. But I used it once and discovered in spring there was mold in the peat moss 'cause the bulbs had a little moisture in them. You want them to be dry so they won't rot and you have to make sure they don't freeze.
I had gotten 3 green leaf cannas to come up with my pretty one but I didnt get any variegated leaf kind after growing them abit so I tossed them to a neighbors house to grow..the other seeds didnt come up..
I have to admit you have absolutely stunning leaves on your cleos! Mine only have a rare stripe barely visible on the back of an occasional leaf.. otherwise.. they are green.. the blooms are definitely cleopatra blooms though. I would love to have a rhyzome like yours some day to give to my mother... hers is from mine and she delights in the cleo blooms.. is not even aware of the leaves because you literally have to lift them up and look under them to see any differences!