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weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
July 14, 2008
5:54 PM Post #5259084
| Sorry I can't help out more than a description, but I was wondering what this shrub may be. It is fast growing, upright growth habit and flowers that come out in the late summer to early fall, smells like olives. It does not fruit and the seeds are black. About 2 or 3 in a pod. About the size of a made for wood nail head. I would like some of my own, but until I know what it is... I can't ask owners as they are not the ones that planted them. |
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)
July 14, 2008
7:43 PM Post #5259584
| Any chance you remember what the flowers look like? |
weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
July 15, 2008
6:38 PM Post #5264856
| Yea, they are pretty small and white. Not very many are produced. They have 4 or 5 petals. Sorry I can't remember how many exactly. |
altagardener
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3b)
July 15, 2008
6:43 PM Post #5264870
| What do the leaves look like - shape, size, color (if distinct), are they alternate or opposite on the stem? Are the flowers fragrant? Is the shrub common, or less so; used for hedging, or as specimens?
From the mention of "pods", is it a legume? (In other words are the seeds in a pod similar to that of a pea?)
Could you post some photos, in focus, including close-ups? |
sube1984
Goleta, CA
(Zone 10a)
July 15, 2008
6:52 PM Post #5264914
| could it be a type of privet- ligustrum? a shot in the dark without a photo. |
weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
July 16, 2008
11:50 AM Post #5268573
| I will do my best. So hold your thoughts for just a little bit. I do not know if the close ups would be good enough quality. |
weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
July 16, 2008
4:31 PM Post #5269955
| So here is the first one. It was taken so you can see how tall it is becoming. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
July 16, 2008
4:33 PM Post #5269959
| Here is another with the flowers that are just coming out. I am thinking it just might be a siberian elm. (Ulmus pumila) 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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altagardener
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3b)
July 16, 2008
4:36 PM Post #5269974
| Thanks for the photos - I'm sure someone will know...
By the way, it doesn't match siberian elm at all in leaves or flowers. |
weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
July 16, 2008
4:40 PM Post #5269988
| Oh. I was looking at a picture of one in a gardening catalog and thought they looked the same. If it were a siberian elm, I would have to say, the ones in the picture of mine do not have problems with the twig mess and do not self propagate by seed. At least as far as I know. |
plantfreak78
Rolesville, NC
(Zone 7b)
July 16, 2008
4:52 PM Post #5270049
| It kind of reminds me of Cestrum but I'm not familiar enough with the species other than C. fasciculatum 'Newellii' and its certainly not that one.
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ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)
July 16, 2008
5:15 PM Post #5270155
| I don't think that's it, C. elegans 'Smithii' is the only one I know of with lighter pink flowers and it is definitely not that one. Plus a Cestrum wouldn't be semi-evergreen in zone 6a, it would be dead! LOL |
Resin
Northumberland
(United Kingdom)
(Zone 9a)
July 16, 2008
5:51 PM Post #5270357
| Privet?
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plantfreak78
Rolesville, NC
(Zone 7b)
July 16, 2008
11:18 PM Post #5271847
| Thanks for the reality check ecrane. I totally ignored the zone! What a dummy! :)
Resin, I thought of Ligustrum too when I first saw it but it doesn't look like L. japonicum or L. sinensis so I dismissed it. The fruits definitely have that look though, don't they. Could it be L. vulgare? |
Resin
Northumberland
(United Kingdom)
(Zone 9a)
July 17, 2008
4:11 PM Post #5274974
| Could be, but there's also something like 20 species in eastern Asia, so I'd not like to say for certain.
Resin
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weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
July 18, 2008
10:51 AM Post #5279380
| This is faster growing than any privet I know! But I will have a looksee. |
plantfreak78
Rolesville, NC
(Zone 7b)
July 18, 2008
1:22 PM Post #5280258
| Faster than Ligustrum?! That's scary! I've seen them grow four foot long shoots in one season.
Anyway, could we get a close-up of one of the bloom clusters?
Also, when you said "smells like olives" did you mean actually olives like green olives or olive blooms, as in tea-olive (Osmanthus) or Russian olive (Elaeagnus)? Because the plant really looks like it could be a member of Oleaceae (which Ligustrum and Osmanthus are both members of). |
weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
July 19, 2008
1:46 PM Post #5285736
| I will try to get you your close up, but my camera isn't that good. I will take several to make sure I get one that is halfway decent. Someone pointed out to me a Russian Olive bush. I guess it was in bloom because I caught a whiff of something like tangy green olives. |
weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
July 19, 2008
3:00 PM Post #5286093
| The flowers are all spent and are producing seed now. It looks like when grapes begin to fruit. But it is not a grape and there are just a couple instead of a cluster. I do not know if this will help at all, but I managed to get a close up of the leaves. The flowers couldn't come into focus anyway. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
July 19, 2008
3:04 PM Post #5286117
| I have managed to narrow it down to 2 privets. If that is what it is. Here is what I figure, though I am not sure. The leaves are a dark green despite my picture. Ok so maybe one after checking closer.
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plantfreak78
Rolesville, NC
(Zone 7b)
July 20, 2008
9:21 AM Post #5289921
| Although I still think it's a Ligustrum, I do not think it is an L. sinense. The leaves on yours look too thick and too larger to be that one.
ps- Maybe if you're good this year, Santa will bring you a camera with macro for those close-up shots :) |
peachespickett
Huntington, AR
July 20, 2008
1:37 PM Post #5290928
| Likely a totally wrong shot in the dark, but I'll throw out maybe some kind of elaeagnus? |
Resin
Northumberland
(United Kingdom)
(Zone 9a)
July 20, 2008
5:19 PM Post #5291910
| Sorry, 'fraid not . . . Elaeagnus has alternate leaves ;-)
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peachespickett
Huntington, AR
July 20, 2008
7:51 PM Post #5292675
| Thank you, Resin, my earlier post in another thread has been once again validated by my own ignorance, or, rather, carelessness. Or both.
I thought it wasn't , but I saw the silvery leaves and thought about all the times something on the ID forum has actually turned out to be Elaeagnus and I didn't even think of it, so I vowed to guess Elaeagnus for anything that looked even remotely similar from then on. I'm a bit of a numpty! Cheerio, me ol' mucker! ( I just looked those up) |
plantfreak78
Rolesville, NC
(Zone 7b)
July 20, 2008
9:24 PM Post #5293135
| Don't sweat it peaches, he gets me on that mistake all the time. Also, I don't think those leaves are really silver, I think they're either dirty, have powdery mildew or it's just the lighting. |
weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
July 22, 2008
5:35 PM Post #5303363
| For sure plantfreak78! You could tell I could use a better one can't you? LOL. There was a little bit of a glare when I took the pic. Was cloudy, but the sun broke through just before I took it. Sorry about that. Ligustrum huh? Haven't looked that one up yet. I do not think it is a privet, but I will have a look at your suggestion too. |
plantfreak78
Rolesville, NC
(Zone 7b)
July 23, 2008
1:32 PM Post #5307773
| Just to make sure we're on the same page I'm going to point out that Ligustrum is the latin name for privet. As in, Ligustrum sinense is Chinese Privet, etc. |
weedsfree
Magna, UT
(Zone 6a)
August 25, 2008
5:49 PM Post #5466875
| Yea, I got that. |
