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Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 16, 2008
4:03 PM

Post #5268631

Hi! A very generous DGer sent me some Luffa vine seeds. I planted them yesterday in a small container using seed starter mix. How long to germinate? Are they shade or sun? How long before they actually "bloom"?

I will also search the internet, but I thought I'd come here first to all you knowlegeable people :D
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2008
6:14 PM

Post #5269337

Sis_E - how many seeds and what size container? Is that the container you are going to keep them in, or will you be transplanting into the ground?

I have no choice but to grow mine in full sun . . . they are looking a bit ragged . . . so maybe part shade would work, or at least sheltered from the afternoon sun. Germination should start to happen within a week or so.
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 16, 2008
8:10 PM

Post #5269879

Hi Syrumani! I will be transplanting later in a bigger container as I have a container garden. Right now they are in 4" pots. I have 5 seeds...3 in one planter and 2 in another. :)

thank so much for response!!
Cissy
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2008
11:50 PM

Post #5270703

Cissy...I don't know how hot it gets in your area...but mighty hot here...still 9B though...

Just today I was looking at my lone Swan Gourd plant...and thought about rigging up some type of shade cloth for the afternoon sun...

Also, I have about 4 little female "bulbs" showing...all on one vine...but I haven't seen any male flowers. I don't know if they will make a full grown gourd or not.

I grew some louffas one year...no fence...and the Javalinas chompped into some of them. Darn Javalinas!! Jo
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 17, 2008
12:03 AM

Post #5270803

Jo, it does get hot here, but not nearly as hot as Arizona! I live near San Francisco. Summers might get up in the 90's, but mostly in summer is 80's for the most part. I have areas to plant that are shade and sun!

Can't wait to see these luffas!! :D

Ciss
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

July 17, 2008
1:13 AM

Post #5271212

Ciss - you should have much better luck than those of us in the desert climates . . . here is a picture of my measly three loofa this year . . . not the mother load I was hoping for, but there's still time for a few suprises . . .

I think I may be getting a female apple . . . I hope all the males are still around once she opens! The bushel female that I thought I botched the other day looks bigger today.

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Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 17, 2008
1:50 AM

Post #5271369

Wow...gee, how do you tell male from female? Look closely? ;)

Cis
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

July 17, 2008
3:20 AM

Post #5271860

Sis_E . . . here is a link that you may find useful. The flowers are for the ornamental gourds, but the parts are all the same. I think most, if not all, of the hardshell gourds have white flowers. You know, scratch the "all" part . . . the spinner female I found the other day had a yellow flower.

http://justgourds.com/Gourd Info/gourdflowers.htm

Believe me, when you see a male and female together, you will know which is which! I hadn't thought about hand pollinating before (sounds like too much work!), but I went out the other night, and found what I thought was a male . . . looked at a flower that had a bit of a "bulge" under the flower, and oh, boy! You'll see!
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 17, 2008
6:19 AM

Post #5272222

LOL Sy! I will check out your link. I sure appreciate it. I think I'm going to like raising a luffa...male or female! :D
Thanks again!!!

Ahhh, checked out the link. Uh, yep, I see the difference. My goodness, who'da thunk it :D

Cissy

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Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

July 17, 2008
12:48 PM

Post #5272906

Here's the gourd I hand pollinated the other day . . . I'm not going to take credit for it . . . there's always the chance it was already pollinated (what would I do without ants?). I did find a female flower on my swan gourd vine this morning, and did a quick intro w/a male flower.

I did see a few flowers on my loofa vine this morning, so there's a chance I'll get a few more!

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Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 17, 2008
1:57 PM

Post #5273229

My goodness, Sy. That's an amazing picture! Hand pollinating a plant is something! I am real anxious for mine to start growing. Since this is a vine, will it attach to bricks on a chimney by chance? Or is a trellis best? Both would be in mostly shade. :D

Cis
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)

July 17, 2008
2:43 PM

Post #5273386

I would trellis them if I were you...an old ladder on the side of the brick. Jo
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

July 17, 2008
2:53 PM

Post #5273425

Yeah, they need something to hold on to . . . they have these twiney, curly, deals that they use to hold onto things . . . I'm at work now, so I'll post a picture of them when I get home tonite . . . even the weight of the loofas (as light as they are) would bring the vines down if they weren't holding on to something.
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 17, 2008
3:04 PM

Post #5273494

Ah, good information! Thankie! :D

Cissy
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2008
1:15 PM

Post #5278840

Better late than never!

These are not from the loofa vines, but they will look and act the same . . .

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Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2008
1:17 PM

Post #5278850

The vines will develop these curly things (someday I may find out the "real" name of them!) at almost every leaf. See how they wrap around anything they can get their "arms" on? They'll even wrap around each other. Oh, and once they get a good hold, it is hard to get them untwisted!

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Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 18, 2008
2:19 PM

Post #5279112

Hi Sy (hey, it rhymes). You take excellent pictures! Curlicues and all. I just love things that crawl and go bump in the night ;) Thank you so much for taking the time to post pictures! I can't wait until I see some activity in my little pots of Luffa seeds. I took a pictures of 6 pots of various seeds planted. Two of them are the Luffa. Gee, can ya tell which? lol ;) You might be able to read the label (doubtful lol)

Cissy

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brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 18, 2008
3:10 PM

Post #5279498

TENDRILS, Syrumani.
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

July 19, 2008
2:28 AM

Post #5282953

See? I knew there was a name for them! ;-D
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 19, 2008
2:40 AM

Post #5283010

::::looking in mirror::::: gee, I used to have tendrils lol

Cis
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 21, 2008
3:00 PM

Post #5295758

I traded my tendrils for these wiry gray things, apparently... wonder who worked that deal out for me...
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 21, 2008
3:16 PM

Post #5295825

LOL Brigid! I hear ya! They are wiry! :D
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 1, 2008
3:56 PM

Post #5353785

Sis_E -- how are those luffas growing?
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 1, 2008
5:07 PM

Post #5354135

4 of the 5 seeds are sprouted. 2 of them are growing quite well. Those 2 are about 1/2 tall. The two leaves are about 1/2 each long. Slow but growing! I will take a picture later. One of the seeds seem to have stopped growing..looks rather peaked. LOL

Thanks for asking, brig!
Cis
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 1, 2008
6:35 PM

Post #5354493

They seem to stop growing right after they start, and then a couple of weeks later you'll suddenly have an entire vine.
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 1, 2008
7:01 PM

Post #5354621

Quoting:They seem to stop growing right after they start, and then a couple of weeks later you'll suddenly have an entire vine


GASP! LOL, thankie! I look forward to the booom :D
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 1, 2008
8:07 PM

Post #5354831

We've ALL panicked over that one! ;}
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 3, 2008
3:21 PM

Post #5362386

Ok...about how big do they get before I transplant them to a bigger container? Right now, they are about 1/2" tall with second set of leaves just barely beginning to grow. I know it's too early now, but do I transplant after second set of leaves are fully here and 3rd set just barely starting? Better to transplant in bigger pot before going to ground?

Thanks!
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 4, 2008
3:00 PM

Post #5366851

I'd wait until you have four real leaves (the first two are cotylodons (SP?) and don't count) and then put them in the ground. They don't like being transplanted, so the fewer times you can do that, the better.
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 4, 2008
3:04 PM

Post #5366872

Thank you, Brig! I'll do that :)
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 4, 2008
8:18 PM

Post #5368130

Here is picture of my lttle Luffa babies
1st one

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Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 4, 2008
8:19 PM

Post #5368133

Second one. Since these pics were taken only 2 days ago, the second set of leaves have grown some...oops forgot the pic

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Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 4, 2008
8:21 PM

Post #5368138

Second one aarrgg.. LOL

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Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

August 4, 2008
8:50 PM

Post #5368255

You know, Sis_E . . . I think you have inspired me! I think I will try and start more loofa seeds . . . there may be time for them to grow full size in my area . . .
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 4, 2008
10:14 PM

Post #5368582

Awww, thankie! :D Do it! Do it Now! LOL
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 6, 2008
3:07 PM

Post #5376746

Sy, if they don't get fully mature, you can cook and eat them, just like okra.
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 6, 2008
3:34 PM

Post #5376853

Ahhh that's interesting! Eating a sponge...hey, soaked in gravy? :) I like Okra
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 6, 2008
3:40 PM

Post #5376876

A neighbor of mine gave me a huge ripe luffa, ready to become a sponge, and said "This one got to big to eat, but it's some kind of okra if you pick it young enough" -- I didn't have the heart to tell him he was eating luffa, not okra! But when young, they are much the same.
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 6, 2008
9:27 PM

Post #5378089

LOL brig! :D
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 11, 2008
10:22 PM

Post #5401133

Brig, I am getting close. They now have 2 sets of leaves. When you said best to wait until they have 4 leaves, did you mean 4 SETS of leaves or just 4 leaves? LOL
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 12, 2008
3:55 PM

Post #5404107

4 leaves. Sounds like you're ready! Good luck!!! Post pictures.
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 12, 2008
4:43 PM

Post #5404282

Oh good! I plan on plantng in the ground today or tomorrow. Keeping my fingers crossed they dont die! :-P
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 14, 2008
3:25 PM

Post #5413243

brig, question please: I have the luffas in two containers...total of 4 luffa plants. Each container has two luffas in it. One of the luffa plants in each container is ready for transplanting. How do I lift out the ready ones w/o disturbing the ones that are not ready? And, when I take out the ready-to-transplant luffas, how do I do it? Do I use root hormone on the bare roots before sticking in the ground? I have a great spot for each of them. I am making my own thingie-bob for them to climb.

Anyway, is that how I transplant? Carefully lift out of soiless mix by the root or leaves? Help. I don't want to mess up. Any advice appreciated. Here's pic of one container.
You can see the smaller one behind it...not quite ready for transplant.

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Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

August 14, 2008
3:52 PM

Post #5413362

Sis_E - I know you were asking brigidlily, but my opinion would be to plant both seedlings at the same time. Just take them out of the pot they're in, and plant the whole root-ball in the same hole. The second seedling should start to catch up pretty soon - it could be that it is smaller because the other one is taking up more root space - but once they are planted, it should have room to spread it's own roots.

Just my opinion . . . :-)

I myself decided not to start more luffa seeds . . . because my vines look like they're actually developing more luffa's!!
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 14, 2008
4:08 PM

Post #5413450

Sis_E -- what Syrumani said! I've only direct sown luffas but when I've started other things that's the way I've done it. Disturb the roots as little as possible, and keep them watered. Good luck, and keep posting!
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)

August 14, 2008
4:20 PM

Post #5413522

This is not about gourds, but when I planted Tithonia this year I started one in the house in a little peat pot...and just put some seeds in the same flower bed that I later planted the little peat pot...The ones I started in the groud grew MUCH faster than the one I planted peat pot and all in the flower bed...so if you plan to just put the whole peat pot in the ground...tear off the bottom of the peat pot first!! JMHO Jo
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 14, 2008
4:27 PM

Post #5413563

I have thrown bits of peat pots into the compost pile, and they take longer to compost than most things in there. I tear as much off of them as I can before I plant the seedlings, and once I've used up the ones I have I don't plan on buying any more. Same (or worse) with those "pellets" that are peat wrapped up in that flimsy little cloth. I still want to try making pots with newspaper, but I'll probably tear those off, too!
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)

August 14, 2008
4:28 PM

Post #5413573

Didn't Dave do a Video of making pots from Newspaper? Jo
brigidlily
Lumberton, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 14, 2008
4:31 PM

Post #5413587

Did he? I'll have to look. I do recall a thread where someone explained it.
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 14, 2008
4:50 PM

Post #5413668

Thank you Sy and Brig. I used soiless mix. General that means that a root ball is very loose. I will be careful and just go for it! LOL. Yes, there is a video dave made. Let me look for it. Here it is

http://davesgarden.com/guides/video/
Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 15, 2008
11:25 PM

Post #5419920

Ok, my Luffa plants just spent their first day/night outdoors, in the heat too BUT they are doing quite well!

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Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 15, 2008
11:26 PM

Post #5419924

One more luffa. You see, these are my babies! LOL

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Sis_E
(Cissy) San Jose, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 15, 2008
11:57 PM

Post #5420026

Roadrunner...I completely agree about the peat pots. Nothing I put in them could grow properly AND they did not disappear in the soil! I do not like those things and I was disappointed. The same with peat disks. They do nothing but let the seed germinate, then it doesn;t grow! LOL

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