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ryguy319
Owosso, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 17, 2008
8:43 PM

Post #5276318

Ok finally I was out looking at this plant just tonight and just noticed that it was getting this buds and I have been wondering what these plants are they just started popping up in my bed this spring. I knew they weren't grass because of how coarse the long leaves are at first when they first started popping out of the ground I thought they were Liatris and then when they started getting so big and weren't getting a fringy top I knew they weren't. Then I keep wondering were they some type of Daylily but I just didn't think they were. Well now I see that they have a blossom that I noticed by looking down at them from the top do they look familiar to anyone. I am going to try to put the 2 pictures on the same message.

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ryguy319
Owosso, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 17, 2008
8:45 PM

Post #5276332

Didn't work oh well here is the 2nd pix.

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dayflower
Gonzales, LA
(Zone 9a)

July 17, 2008
9:28 PM

Post #5276640

You have a nice healthy case of Nutgrass, some call it Coco grass or Nutsage. Roundup will get it. Don't pull it up...that only spreads it, believe me...I've fought it for years...when you pull it up it puts out 8 more shoots underneath and makes 8 more little plants. Those seeds (flowers) you see in the first picture will scatter you a million more plants, you'll have to spray the bed, time and time again till you get it...That stuff is awful, it'll come up in the middle of the interestate...Run...don't walk... to your nearest herbiside dealer and stock up...
Pagancat
Gainesboro, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 17, 2008
9:33 PM

Post #5276675

Serious. I think another name is Nut Sedge - there's a number of Sedges, but this is not a nice one, I'm afraid...
ryguy319
Owosso, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 17, 2008
10:14 PM

Post #5276985

Oh my goodness I feel like I just got bad news from the Dr. If I spray I will spray other things that are growing around it and I don't want to take the chance of killing my yellow columbine and my foxglove. Are you sure I can't just carefully pull it and carefully put it in a garbage bag real carefully.
rrog2001
North Brunswick, NJ

July 17, 2008
11:38 PM

Post #5277565

Pull what you can, discard what you pull, and be prepared to repeat the process sooner than later. Pulling nutsedge leaves little bits behind in the soil (the "nuts"), and they generate new plants pretty quickly. Persistence pays off in the long run.

Ray
ryguy319
Owosso, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 18, 2008
1:01 AM

Post #5277921

Thanks so much I can be persistant believe you me and it's in an area that is easy to get to. Thank goodness I won't have to sacrifice my yellow columbine and my foxglove. I should have known it was too good to be true that it was just a volunteer flower that was going to surprise me with a beautiful bloom that I didn't plant. I wonder where it came from if it came with a plant that I planted in that area last year. I just planted a Siberian iris right behind where that weed is last year and the place I bought the iris at was a greenhouse that I like that is out in the country. I wonder if that is a weed that is very common in the country. I am a weed nut I look out the window and if I see a weed I have to go out and pull it even if I am in my bathrobe. Thanks again I'll be a weedin.
dayflower
Gonzales, LA
(Zone 9a)

July 18, 2008
5:03 PM

Post #5281384

Another method besides spraying is to put on a rubber glove and then put on a cloth glove over that one, then you can dip you fingers into the roundup (etc) solution,squeezeing off the excess and then "pet" your nutgrass to death, therefore not getting the solution on any of your other plants. I keep roundup solution or a "Killsall" solution made up at all times in a spray squrt bottle and just make my rounds about once a month throughout the garden for weeds and nutgrass. You can use a piece of cardboard to shield the other plants while hand squirting with a squirt bottle.--You have to get serious with Nutgrass and stay on its case or it'll win.
Celene
Columbus, OH

July 18, 2008
5:30 PM

Post #5281528

I use my dog's elizabethan collar to shield other plants when I am forced to use spray on plants like this (not when the dog is wearing it, obviously), just sit it over the weed and spray inside the "cone". Nutsedge, Tree of Heven, ground ivy, and Kniola Black mg's and this NOID horrible spreading weed that I hate, they're the only ones I resort to chemicals.
ryguy319
Owosso, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 18, 2008
7:19 PM

Post #5282029

Thanks to all I think I am going to pull it very carefully and just keep an evil eye on it and keep them pulled it is only in one spot which is very very closely surrounded by other flowers that will surely get sprayed if I try to spray every last one of the weed so I will be very methodical about getting it all and keep pulling every time I see one little plant start to come up. I wish I had done that when I first started seeing it coming up. I thought it was daylilies or something. But if I did spray some of it will it kill the little nuts or seeds and render them non germinatable?
trioadastra
Ellsworth, WI
(Zone 4a)

July 19, 2008
12:47 PM

Post #5285324

I am currently battling nutsedge also by spraying. The leaves yellow from the base up, so I can only guess it's dying from the nut up. However, if you do pull them, you need to loosen the dirt first so the nut comes up with it, otherwise you'll be wasting your time. The nut can stay dormant for many years. Digging it out is the best non chemical way to get it.
Pagancat
Gainesboro, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 19, 2008
8:06 PM

Post #5287455

I'd take a cardboard box and put it over what I didn't want to get sprayed and spray it. Honestly, I've battled that stuff and you just can't win by pulling. My two cents worth!

Best of luck, however you choose to do it.
Resin
Northumberland
(United Kingdom)
(Zone 9a)

July 20, 2008
5:57 AM

Post #5289481

The "nuts" are good to eat, try a google search for nutsedge recipes.

Resin
Resin
Northumberland
(United Kingdom)
(Zone 9a)

July 20, 2008
5:59 AM

Post #5289483

Also try a search for chufa recipes, chufa is the Spanish name, and they are more popular in Spanish cooking.
ryguy319
Owosso, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 20, 2008
9:19 AM

Post #5289909

Well to tell you the truth if I spray them with Roundup I don't think I will be tasting the little buggers and also is roundup the best thing to spray them with or just any old weed b gone? And by the way what is NOID? The problem with spraying Roundup my son works at a farm store and he said that with Roundup you can't plant anything in that soil for a month or 2.
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

July 20, 2008
10:50 AM

Post #5290214

They are tough to kill, so while there are probably other brands that may work, "any old weed killer" might not. And don't worry too much about planting afterwards--while there are debates about the exact environmental fate of Roundup, it is inactivated as an herbicide once it comes in contact with soil, so you can plant things there fairly quickly, definitely don't have to wait months. NOID means an unidentified plant (no ID)
lawgal
Pikesville, MD

July 20, 2008
8:55 PM

Post #5292990

I got that sinking feeling too when I discovered what i had in my year 3 yrs ago. I went to a commercial lawn dealer/wholesaler and told them what I had. He sold me a highly toxic herbicide goo that had to be mixed up and sprayed on the nutsedge. It got rid of most of it but several shoots still come up here and there. If you do want to pull it up, it is best to dig a wide swath of ground around it and throw out the whole thing in an airtight bag so it doesn't spread. Even the tiniest bit of root will reroot and spread.

Have courage, you CAN prevail {grin}
tcinmb
Myrtle Beach, SC

July 20, 2008
10:31 PM

Post #5293458

I'm fighting this stuff too!! I have been pulling it up but have yet to find a nut. I guess the only nut in my garden is me.lol Off to get some Round Up.
ryguy319
Owosso, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 20, 2008
11:17 PM

Post #5293771

I guess that should make me feel better that I'm not alone in this delemia. At least one good thing it is in an area where I don't want to remove anything and everything is very tight together so I don't think my other plants will let it escape the area. When I do take care of it tomorrow if this heat lets up so I can stand it outside I am going to lay a sheet on the grass in front of the planter that it is enclosed in (so nothing will get in my grass either) and cut the little seed blossoms off very carefully and have a paper bag ready to let them fall into and pull the rest very carefully out because the dirt there is very loose and put them in the paper bag. And if this sounds sadistic put that sack in my fire pit after I get a very very hot fire going and make sure every bit of it doesn't escape that bag and watch it burn. I almost feel like I'm fighting a virus. And watch everyday and then when I see any hint of one coming back up I am going to hit it hard with what my son said they have at the farm store he works at and that is called extended control Roundup and I am going to also do what people are telling me and put up a shield against the things that I don't want affected by the Roundup. And I will keep my spray bottle handy at all times. I don't think anything will be planted there for at least a year or 2. Thanks to everyone for the moral support.

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