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sandrem
Maitland, FL
(Zone 10b)

August 01, 2008
04:43 PM

Post #5354941

Hello, I live in florida and these trees can be found growing in almost everyone's yard at some level of growth and development.

It just so happens that I love the way they smell (a kind of citrus-y piney smell), and would love to make tea from them. I can't for the life of me figure out what they are though.

The newer growth and seedlings grow on green branches and stems, which slowly turn to a rough but thinner bark (a few cm thick) that's lighter brown.

They produce many berries which start out green and end up black. I always thought they were some type of ficus, but the berries don't look "fig"-like, nor are the branches and green-wood reminiscent of a ficus. The wood itself is sturdy and strong, and snaps when broken.

The berries are about .5-1cm in diameter and form on structures which look sort of like small green suction cups. Here are some pictures (this is a new plant with about half a years growth or so, it's mixed in with other shrubs, but I got close-ups too):

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sandrem
Maitland, FL
(Zone 10b)

August 01, 2008
04:44 PM

Post #5354945

Another Picture (this is near the base of the plant)

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bugme
Barnesville, GA
(Zone 7b)

August 02, 2008
04:51 AM

Post #5357450

Your local county extension agent can give you an exact i.d. if you take in a stem with leaves or possibly by just sending a digital image to them.
redchic01
southern willamette , OR
(Zone 7a)

August 02, 2008
05:01 AM

Post #5357454

It looks like it could be a laurel of some sort, it is a tough enough plant to grow in many different climates and can grow as both a tree or shrub, depending on what kind of laurel it may be.
the plant in this picture needs some fertilizer, it's usually a darker green.

Typically it has off white flowers that are fragrant and depending on what variety of laurel it can have berries similar to what you described.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/169490/

link to plant files of laurel
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher[com...

This message was edited Aug 2, 2008 2:13 AM
redchic01
southern willamette , OR
(Zone 7a)

August 02, 2008
05:07 AM

Post #5357457

different kind of it growing as a tree. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/18306/

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

August 02, 2008
07:26 AM

Post #5357596

Definitely not Prunus.

Resin
Joan
Belfield, ND
(Zone 4a)



August 02, 2008
09:42 AM

Post #5358017

Do these get tall like a tree, or are they more shrub like?
sandrem
Maitland, FL
(Zone 10b)

August 02, 2008
11:14 AM

Post #5358319

Yea, they get REALLY big. My friend used to have one in his lawn, and it was atleast 30-40 feet tall. They get rather wide as well.

The growth pattern is oak-like. The trunk gets really wide at the base with many branching limbs that go out in all directions (this occurs not too far up the trunk, maybe after about 3-10 feet).

Like Resin, I don't think it's a laurel, but thanks for the tip redchic.
Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

August 02, 2008
12:54 PM

Post #5358677

Not a laurel (Laurus) either. Sorry, not sure what it is though. I'd suspect some sort of tropical plant which most of us won't be familiar with.

Resin
jnana
South Florida, FL
(Zone 10b)

August 02, 2008
03:57 PM

Post #5359301

Ailos, could you please post a picture of a large mature tree? I have an inkling of what it may be, but before I venture an ID I would prefer to see a picture.
sandrem
Maitland, FL
(Zone 10b)

August 02, 2008
05:28 PM

Post #5359689

Yea sure, I'll go get one!
sandrem
Maitland, FL
(Zone 10b)

August 02, 2008
05:35 PM

Post #5359717

Alright, here's a pic of a mature tree:

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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

August 02, 2008
05:36 PM

Post #5359720

A mature plants with flowers and fruit will help with ID. Your area can support a lot of tropical plant species.
sandrem
Maitland, FL
(Zone 10b)

August 02, 2008
05:37 PM

Post #5359723

And here's a closeup of the foliage and an unripe berry (sorry, but they aren't flowering right now):

The inside of the berry is some-what fig-like, with lots of tiny seeds/pods instead of a big core. They are also quite fragrant.

This message was edited Aug 2, 2008 4:39 PM

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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

August 02, 2008
05:41 PM

Post #5359739

A close-up of the trunk will help too.
jnana
South Florida, FL
(Zone 10b)

August 02, 2008
05:48 PM

Post #5359764

I think, my first thought was right. It looks like a Cinnamomum camphora, Camphor Tree
http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&...
sandrem
Maitland, FL
(Zone 10b)

August 02, 2008
05:52 PM

Post #5359777

Yes! That's it! Thank you so much jnana (and everyone else who helped)!
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

August 02, 2008
05:59 PM

Post #5359803

It may be a type of Ficus. Richard Wunderlin lists Ficus citrifolia in your area from "Guide to the Vascular Plants of Central Florida"
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

August 02, 2008
06:04 PM

Post #5359820

Good call Jnana!
jnana
South Florida, FL
(Zone 10b)

August 02, 2008
06:10 PM

Post #5359837

Thank you Ailos and Metrosideros!

Ailos, before you make tea from the leaves read the warning at the bottom of the link. We wouldn't want you to get sick.

http://www.floridata.com/ref/C/cinn_cam.cfm



This message was edited Aug 2, 2008 6:40 PM
sandrem
Maitland, FL
(Zone 10b)

August 03, 2008
01:06 AM

Post #5361205

Oh yes, I thoroughly investigate anything before I ingest it. It's used in indian cuisine (usually for deserts and sweets), so it is edible. The lethal dose is around 100mg/kg, so I'd need to eat around 5-6 grams of pure camphor before anything bad happens :P

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