Very beautiful! I have 3 growing, not together but in different parts of the garden. I'm going to try doing them in mass next year now that I've seen your garden. I planted the yellow variety but it never grew, just the orange ones.
Thank you for the compliments. I do like them, too. I'd never grown them before this year.
Relatively speaking, our spring and early summer were cool and wet, whereas it's normally hot and dry. I think they were especially late to bloom due to the cool cloudy weather, as were many of my other annuals. The tithonia were pretty late starting to bloom, like the last week of July. No doubt they'd be earlier if started indoors under lights, or even in a more normal Cincinnati summer. I guess I'll find out next year.
I did winter sow some of mine but the cold temps of April killed them. I had to start all over and didn't plant enough. This one and some zinnia I'll start inside so hopefully I'll have an early bloom time. The ones I had to start over didn't start to bloom until late August if memory serves me, but they really are putting on a show now. Even the cooler night temps haven't phased the mature plants. Karen, your row of Tithonia is just goreous. You've just given me a great idea for a barren spot near my fishing pond.
Deborah: Most of mine were wintersown I guess, but some were direct sown, and they did well too. The wintersown ones were used to fill in gaps where the direct sown ones didn't come up. In your nice warm zone, couldn't you direct sow them? I'd think they'd do well that way in Ga, much better than Ohio!
Well, you've got a good point there. I just may do both. I would like a thick row like your picture. I guess the containers being above ground is the reason I lost my winter sown ones. The soil in the container heated up enough during the warmer days but when we got those few days of very low temps, that did them in. The ground would take longer to heat up for germination, so I'll direct sow and sow some in doors. Thanks for that suggestion.
Cordeledawg, for things that are more frost tender, like Tithonia, I wait till March or April to wintersow and they do fine. I heard others talk about having them sprout too early otherwise and get zapped by cold temps.
I was googling for info on germinaition of Tithonia/Mex. sunflowers and Karen's fantastic row of tithonia photo came up so I reviewed this thread.
... Maybe some of you can please help me...
Do you think it's too late to start Tithonia from seed here in Ohio?? Zone 6a.
I started a few seeds a month ago and the little plantlings were eaten by some animal. Now I am dying to have some of these for my butterfly garden in September and wondered if I will have to resort to paying for nursery plants (if I can find them, and tithonia are not easy to find, as you know) or if I can still get them into bloom begininning at this late date?
I don't know, t, but my husband direct sowed some seeds within the past week. After that, those monsoon rains came so I'm afraid the seeds washed down that big hill. I'll probably see them in my neighbor's yard, at the bottom of that hill. (same spot as last year).
tabasco According to Johnny's Seed, days to bloom = 100 to 120 days. And looking back to my original post in this thread, it was early Sept. before mine really peaked last year. Those were sown earlier, though I don't remember when. My hope is that this late in the season, more heat will mean faster growth. I do find that to be true on a lot of annuals.
Oh, thanks for finding that info, Karen. I'll have to remember that Johnny's puts 'days to bloom' on their website.
I I planted some Torch tithonias last night and then found some Fiesta del Sol tithonia seeds and they are shorter so I'm hoping they will be quicker to bloom.
I'm planting a butterfly garden for my little nieces who moved here from Cooperstown NY this year. So I think tithonia are a must for them. They have a very sunny yard and the Tithonias should do well. Also found some short regular sunflowers to plant too. Now what else?? Milkweed maybe. I am taking cuttings of some of the Milkweed in our garden and hoping that will work for them.
I was so foolish not to do this earlier in the springtime, but I was busy getting them settled this year in Cincinnati and didn't have time for much seed sowing.
And Karen, we missed you at the RU on Saturday. I wish you would find time to come next year. It's such a nice event/picnic/plant trade. And we need a few more folks like you to make it really special.
tabasco, I'm thinking it was about this time or later that I planted my wintersown Tithonias last year, and they grew and matured quickly. I think you'll still have a good display this summer- seems they wait till weather is warm to really start growing anyway. I wintersowed them again this year and will be planting them out today. I'd hoped to get an earlier start with them this year, but the seedlings have grown very slowly and are still pretty small, with a couple of sets of true leaves. Odd to me because last year they grew to the top of the milk jug quickly and were a little spindly. I'm wondering if its due to being from saved seed this year, or a new potting soil I tried?
Good to hear that. I wonder about the saved seed from the hybrids like Torch and Fiesta, too. I tried to grow saved seed last year and had basically crop failure. Although I think I might have a few volunteers coming up in the garden this spring, but it's hard to identify correctly what's in the garden right now. Probably weeds, you know how that is!
tabasco: I don't know what I could have to offer to the RU. But what a nice thing to say anyway.
With all the rain yesterday (1.3" in my rain gauge), some of those direct sown tithonias sprouted. At least I think they might be tithonia. Of course I don't remember what the seedlings looked like last year. I suspect most of the seeds were washed down the hill. So even when they grow they won't form a hedge, but maybe I'll get a few plants.
It's raining like crazy again now. Enough already!
The seeds were harvested from my plants last year.
Terese, did you sow some from the Piggy swap? They may have been some of those I sent. Fewer germinated for me than I expected, as well as being weak growers. Its sounding like seeds from hybrids are duds.
Neal -- I'd have to check... i think i have that data on my spreadsheet...
i am trying so hard to get out the door... heading back North today... wanted to be gone at 9am... whoops that aint gonna happen ... i'm sticking plant tags in the ground, want to dig up a few to take with [may go to the UMW RU on Saturday] and in the drizzle none the less...
An interesting find in the garden yesterday- 3 Tithonia volunteers! They're much bigger than those I wintersowed, which are now planted near them, but still the volunteers are only about 4" tall ( the WS shrimps were only 2" max). This gives me the impression we're not too late getting them planted- that makes me happy as they were among my top butterfly and hummer attractors last year :-)
I'll try to get a pic of them today. It was the true leaves I noticed on these self set plants, trefoil shaped as you said, and looking very similar to giant ragweed, only with velvety soft hairs rather than the course ones on ragweed.
I'm so glad. They're definitely my favorites, too, especially the doubles. And if you harvest some seeds from them and wintersow those, chances are the offspring might be similar but just a little different. That's how my double ones showed up- just cross pollinated mutants.
Rudbeckias wintersow so well for me, it's one I would never even try indoors.
I love those rudbeckias too. I think the ones I have are mostly 'Prairie Suns' with a couple of 'Green Eyes' too. I will have to try again to wintersow them. I may have a few home-grown, but most of mine are from the end of season sale tables in the past few years.
I checked into your garden thread and thoroughly loved the photos. I'm going to take some decent pics of our June border and add to the thread tomorrow. (Maybe something more will break into bloom overnight. I hope so, it's too green around here!).
kqcrna, I can't believe how much further ahead your garden is from ours here on this side of town.
I don't know what made the difference, but last year I wintersowed Ruds and they stayed quite small and just produced a couple of blooms the first year, while those I wintersowed this year grew quickly and are big, bushy plants full of buds.