Finally, tithonia

Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6a)

Everything else in my yard is going dormant, dwindling, going to seed. It really looks like fall. But my tithonias are finally putting on a show.

Karen

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Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6a)

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Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6a)

OOps

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Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6a)

This shows the true color a little better.

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Chicago, IL(Zone 5b)

Very beautiful! I have 3 growing, not together but in different parts of the garden. I'm going to try doing them in mass next year now that I've seen your garden. I planted the yellow variety but it never grew, just the orange ones.
Rose

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Medway, MA(Zone 5b)

VERY nice! I haven't grown those in years - maybe next year . . .

Fayette, MO(Zone 6a)

How lovely. !

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

Karen, those are stunning... i wish i would have remembered to sow those last winter.
I have a lot of seeds... will be a must for next year.

Milton, MA(Zone 6a)

VERY nice, Karen! Nice yard, too!

Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6a)

Thank you for the compliments. I do like them, too. I'd never grown them before this year.

Relatively speaking, our spring and early summer were cool and wet, whereas it's normally hot and dry. I think they were especially late to bloom due to the cool cloudy weather, as were many of my other annuals. The tithonia were pretty late starting to bloom, like the last week of July. No doubt they'd be earlier if started indoors under lights, or even in a more normal Cincinnati summer. I guess I'll find out next year.

Karen

Long Island, NY(Zone 6b)

I love tithonia! They are grown every year in my garden.

Springfield, MA(Zone 6a)

I grew them for the first time this year - I love the silky feel of the stems . . . but they are way too tall for the terrace and no room in my yard . . . . sigh . . .

Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6a)

Seandor: There is a smaller one- Fiesta Del Sol
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/55104/

Karen

Springfield, MA(Zone 6a)

Perfect!

Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6a)

There you go. You're in business.

Cary, NC(Zone 7b)

kqcrna- pretty cool plants you got. I like the row effect you have them in.

rebecca30

Cordele, GA(Zone 8a)

I did winter sow some of mine but the cold temps of April killed them. I had to start all over and didn't plant enough. This one and some zinnia I'll start inside so hopefully I'll have an early bloom time. The ones I had to start over didn't start to bloom until late August if memory serves me, but they really are putting on a show now. Even the cooler night temps haven't phased the mature plants. Karen, your row of Tithonia is just goreous. You've just given me a great idea for a barren spot near my fishing pond.

Deborah

Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6a)

Deborah: Most of mine were wintersown I guess, but some were direct sown, and they did well too. The wintersown ones were used to fill in gaps where the direct sown ones didn't come up. In your nice warm zone, couldn't you direct sow them? I'd think they'd do well that way in Ga, much better than Ohio!

Karen

Cordele, GA(Zone 8a)

Well, you've got a good point there. I just may do both. I would like a thick row like your picture. I guess the containers being above ground is the reason I lost my winter sown ones. The soil in the container heated up enough during the warmer days but when we got those few days of very low temps, that did them in. The ground would take longer to heat up for germination, so I'll direct sow and sow some in doors. Thanks for that suggestion.

Winchester, KY(Zone 6a)

Cordeledawg, for things that are more frost tender, like Tithonia, I wait till March or April to wintersow and they do fine. I heard others talk about having them sprout too early otherwise and get zapped by cold temps.

Cordele, GA(Zone 8a)

That's what I need to do too. Zinnia too I suppose.

Winchester, KY(Zone 6a)

I do zinnias and regular sunflowers at that time too.

Cincinnati (Anderson, OH(Zone 6a)


Hi, again, thithonia lovers!

I was googling for info on germinaition of Tithonia/Mex. sunflowers and Karen's fantastic row of tithonia photo came up so I reviewed this thread.

... Maybe some of you can please help me...

Do you think it's too late to start Tithonia from seed here in Ohio?? Zone 6a.

I started a few seeds a month ago and the little plantlings were eaten by some animal. Now I am dying to have some of these for my butterfly garden in September and wondered if I will have to resort to paying for nursery plants (if I can find them, and tithonia are not easy to find, as you know) or if I can still get them into bloom begininning at this late date?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks. t.

Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6a)

I don't know, t, but my husband direct sowed some seeds within the past week. After that, those monsoon rains came so I'm afraid the seeds washed down that big hill. I'll probably see them in my neighbor's yard, at the bottom of that hill. (same spot as last year).

But you're right, I never see them in nurseries.

Karen

Long Island, NY(Zone 6b)

According to Tom Clothier - germination in 7-10 days - http://tomclothier.hort.net/page07.html

Cincinnati (Anderson, OH(Zone 6a)

Thanks, Karen.

I will be curious to hear how yours grown along this summer.

And I will direct sow a few and see what happens.

If you see them in a nursery around Cincy will you let me know? I went to four Saturday, but didn't see any, but it's a little early.

Yes, I looked up Tom's info, but I didn't find any 'days to bloom' info. I guess that's the info I was really lasking for but didn't. (-:

Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6a)

tabasco According to Johnny's Seed, days to bloom = 100 to 120 days. And looking back to my original post in this thread, it was early Sept. before mine really peaked last year. Those were sown earlier, though I don't remember when. My hope is that this late in the season, more heat will mean faster growth. I do find that to be true on a lot of annuals.

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/catalog/product.aspx?category=58&subcategory=132&item=1320

Karen

Cincinnati (Anderson, OH(Zone 6a)


Oh, thanks for finding that info, Karen. I'll have to remember that Johnny's puts 'days to bloom' on their website.

I I planted some Torch tithonias last night and then found some Fiesta del Sol tithonia seeds and they are shorter so I'm hoping they will be quicker to bloom.

I'm planting a butterfly garden for my little nieces who moved here from Cooperstown NY this year. So I think tithonia are a must for them. They have a very sunny yard and the Tithonias should do well. Also found some short regular sunflowers to plant too. Now what else?? Milkweed maybe. I am taking cuttings of some of the Milkweed in our garden and hoping that will work for them.

I was so foolish not to do this earlier in the springtime, but I was busy getting them settled this year in Cincinnati and didn't have time for much seed sowing.

And Karen, we missed you at the RU on Saturday. I wish you would find time to come next year. It's such a nice event/picnic/plant trade. And we need a few more folks like you to make it really special.

Winchester, KY(Zone 6a)

tabasco, I'm thinking it was about this time or later that I planted my wintersown Tithonias last year, and they grew and matured quickly. I think you'll still have a good display this summer- seems they wait till weather is warm to really start growing anyway. I wintersowed them again this year and will be planting them out today. I'd hoped to get an earlier start with them this year, but the seedlings have grown very slowly and are still pretty small, with a couple of sets of true leaves. Odd to me because last year they grew to the top of the milk jug quickly and were a little spindly. I'm wondering if its due to being from saved seed this year, or a new potting soil I tried?

Cincinnati (Anderson, OH(Zone 6a)


Good to hear that. I wonder about the saved seed from the hybrids like Torch and Fiesta, too. I tried to grow saved seed last year and had basically crop failure. Although I think I might have a few volunteers coming up in the garden this spring, but it's hard to identify correctly what's in the garden right now. Probably weeds, you know how that is!

Conroe, TX(Zone 9a)

I tried wintersowing the Mexican sunflower seeds that someone so kindly sent me but didn't have any luck. They did not germinate. I was really bummed!

Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6a)

tabasco: I don't know what I could have to offer to the RU. But what a nice thing to say anyway.

With all the rain yesterday (1.3" in my rain gauge), some of those direct sown tithonias sprouted. At least I think they might be tithonia. Of course I don't remember what the seedlings looked like last year. I suspect most of the seeds were washed down the hill. So even when they grow they won't form a hedge, but maybe I'll get a few plants.

It's raining like crazy again now. Enough already!

The seeds were harvested from my plants last year.

Karen

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

bobyrd -- mine did not either.

Winchester, KY(Zone 6a)

Terese, did you sow some from the Piggy swap? They may have been some of those I sent. Fewer germinated for me than I expected, as well as being weak growers. Its sounding like seeds from hybrids are duds.

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

Neal -- I'd have to check..... i think i have that data on my spreadsheet...

i am trying so hard to get out the door... heading back North today... wanted to be gone at 9am... whoops that aint gonna happen ... i'm sticking plant tags in the ground, want to dig up a few to take with [may go to the UMW RU on Saturday] and in the drizzle none the less.....

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

....just checked... looks like the seeds were from the 2007 swap from Suzy.
container #19 ... gonna go recheck for germination.....

..nope, nothing... i'll try again next year. I still have more seeds.... and i'm really out of room for plants... though i was out throwing seeds yesterday.

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Cincinnati (Anderson, OH(Zone 6a)


The tithonia 'Fiesta del sol' that I planted in a plastic veggie container and set outside a couple of days ago have germinated!

So have my Benary's Giant zinnias!

I'm feeling very fertile!

It's like a rain forest here. Everything is growing by leaps and bounds and our hummingbirds are going crazy! Fun time in the garden.

Conroe, TX(Zone 9a)

Lucky you with the rain. We haven't had any rain here in the Houston area for awhile and things are actually starting to look brown which is pretty unusual for here.

Winchester, KY(Zone 6a)

An interesting find in the garden yesterday- 3 Tithonia volunteers! They're much bigger than those I wintersowed, which are now planted near them, but still the volunteers are only about 4" tall ( the WS shrimps were only 2" max). This gives me the impression we're not too late getting them planted- that makes me happy as they were among my top butterfly and hummer attractors last year :-)

Cincinnati (Anderson, OH(Zone 6a)


gem, that's good news!

Can you tell me what the leaves look like? I looked on line for pictures of the seedlings and couldn't find one.

I found one of a mature plant's leaf and they were kind of trefoil shaped.

(Spent the day weeding again, and no doubt unknowingly pulled out all of my tith volunteers!)

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