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melody

melody
Benton, KY
(Zone 7a)


September 20, 2008
1:46 PM

Post #5575793

Here is the brand new forum by popular request. The self-contained box garden forum is ready for all of the wonderful ideas and images!
rutholive
Tonasket, WA
(Zone 5a)

September 20, 2008
2:09 PM

Post #5575877

Here we go. Isn't it great to have our own forum. Next year I will have more EB. Too late to start more now in this climate. I expect a frost any time.

I planted four basil plants, 1 eggplant and 1 sweet pepper in my 1 EB. I used leaves from the basil plants fairly early in season, only one is still growing nicely
Here is the Sweet Banana, showing a couple that have turned red. I have given away at least 30 peppers besides what I have used.

Donna

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rutholive
Tonasket, WA
(Zone 5a)

September 20, 2008
2:13 PM

Post #5575894

And here is a picture of the Bianca eggplant at other end of EB. I have given away a couple and eaten a couple.

I'm sorry can't remember what soil mix I used, I think it was Black Gold. It actually never receives full sun. It is placed about four feet out to the north of my house, so gets afternoon shade.

Donna

rutholive
Tonasket, WA
(Zone 5a)

September 20, 2008
2:17 PM

Post #5575923

clicked wrong button.

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IO1
Waaaay Down South, GA

September 20, 2008
2:20 PM

Post #5575934

Hi Donna ...
Oh, I've never planted my herbs in an EB but think that would be fun. I'm wondering how you keep the creepers in place like thymes, etc? That's why I wanted this forum. :) It's great to see you ... Can't believe you beat me here. LOL I won't bore you with my pepper plants I showed on the other forum. That's about all I have in my garden right now. When Tplant gets here, I'm going to pick his brain for more ideas. LOL
~Susan
critterologist
Frederick, MD
(Zone 6b)

September 20, 2008
2:57 PM

Post #5576089

Yippee!

I wonder if it would be possible (or even a good idea) to move some of those EB threads from other forums over to here... there was a wonderful list posted on the DG forum thread that created this forum. :-)
pelletory
Marlton, NJ

September 20, 2008
3:00 PM

Post #5576103

Congratulations on the new forum!
IO1
Waaaay Down South, GA

September 20, 2008
3:42 PM

Post #5576267

Critter, are you referring to that list of links that was posted?

nanny_56

nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

September 20, 2008
3:48 PM

Post #5576296

I am so anxious to learn all about this and try it!!
Moonglow
Corte Madera, CA

September 20, 2008
3:48 PM

Post #5576298

Woo-hoo! Thank you so much!

Tplant
Pembroke Pines, FL
(Zone 10a)

September 20, 2008
4:09 PM

Post #5576364

I think it would be very helpful to all if we moved all questions to this forum? About herbal gardening in an EB. They love it and the basil has a tendency to take over so plant only one and keep it trimmed. I can not give enough of mine away.
I am really grateful to have this forum because EB gardening is a lot of fun because you grow more quality plants , larger crops, one time fertilizing and no weeding. Most of your seasons are coming to an end and mine is just beginning so I promise to take specific pictures as I go along. However, remember I use the patented earthboxes and not the home made so I can only give basic info on them but there are a few who have made their own successfully and I'm hoping they will share their knowledge and experience with us which I'm sure they will being DG'ers.
I'll be transplanting my seedlings today into 4-5" square containers and will take pictures when completed today. In a way it is good that the season is over for most as what you see and learn through my experience will help you come your set-up time. Just remember always use top quality potting or container mix. If it costs less than $7 for two cubic feet you don't want it and never listen to the advice of salesman at the gardening
center as they never grew in EBs even if they say they have. So many peoples seasons have been ruined because of the wrong mix such as top soil @$2 per bag. You get what you pay for!
BocaBob
Boca Raton, FL
(Zone 10a)

September 20, 2008
4:59 PM

Post #5576467

I vote Tplant as caretaker and CEO of this new forum!!!!


Boca bob
IO1
Waaaay Down South, GA

September 20, 2008
5:19 PM

Post #5576549

Absolutely! I second that! ^_^
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

September 20, 2008
7:25 PM

Post #5576988

I have a question . . . do the EB's come in different sizes?

The reason I ask . . . I've been reading about them for the last year or two, since the soil in my yard - what little there is before you get to clay - doesn't produce very good plants . . .

Did I say "the reason I ask", then go off in a different direction? Well, then, let's correct that. Because of the above reason, I have looked at EB's here locally. Last season they were being sold for $50.00 ea. That nursery is no longer in town, and the company that took it's place is selling them for $80.00. I just went to the EB website itself, and they are being sold for $30.00.
Tplant
Pembroke Pines, FL
(Zone 10a)

September 20, 2008
8:29 PM

Post #5577208

They are one and the same! Buy direct from www.earthbox.com while we still can as I fear they may go strictly wholesale to distributers and that will raise the price..
IO1
Waaaay Down South, GA

September 20, 2008
8:33 PM

Post #5577218

Oh noooo! Why are they going to do that? Even the supplies ... covers, watering systems?
Tplant
Pembroke Pines, FL
(Zone 10a)

September 20, 2008
8:40 PM

Post #5577249

No! Not certain but the EBs are popping up in quite a few nurseries throughout the state so ask yourself as a retailer "Would you buy EBs from me if you could buy them cheaper direct?" I fear there is something brewing!

june_nmexico

june_nmexico
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7a)

September 20, 2008
9:19 PM

Post #5577354

Prices on the Earthbox website range from $47.95 to $52.95. I don't see anything for $30. Was this a special that has now expired?
No place in my area (Albuquerque, NM) seems to sell these.
http://shop2.mailordercentral.com/EarthBox/products.asp?dept=12
CapeCodGardener
Mid-Cape, MA
(Zone 7a)

September 20, 2008
9:47 PM

Post #5577475

[quote]Just remember always use top quality potting or container mix. If it costs less than $7 for two cubic feet you don't want it and never listen to the advice of salesman at the gardening center as they never grew in EBs even if they say they have. So many peoples seasons have been ruined because of the wrong mix such as top soil @$2 per bag. You get what you pay for![/quote]
Tplant is absolutely correct, and this season I had the cheap-potting-mix-filled EBs with puny plants to prove it. Buy the best mix you can find. It's $$ well spent.
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

September 20, 2008
10:16 PM

Post #5577568

Here is the link for the $29.95 boxes at the EB site: http://shop2.mailordercentral.com/EarthBox/products.asp?dept=5
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

September 20, 2008
10:18 PM

Post #5577571

I guess maybe the $29.95 boxes are the "basic" version? The $47.95 ones seem to come with alot more stuff.
Moonglow
Corte Madera, CA

September 20, 2008
11:11 PM

Post #5577783

Supporting the local nursery that I like, I bought my first EB TODAY for $64.64 including tax (without the potting soil). Ordering directly will cost me $63.90 (shipping and potting soil included).

Getting the EB TODAY and satisfying the ID...PRICELESS.
IO1
Waaaay Down South, GA

September 20, 2008
11:20 PM

Post #5577827

Congrats! Let us know what you decide to plant in it! I'm so excited for you. LOL
HERBIE43
Rutland , MA
(Zone 5b)

September 21, 2008
10:40 AM

Post #5579464

congratulations susan on getting your EB forum. there was no doubt in my mind that you would, didn't you tell me that southern girls always get their way. LOL

at one time i did own two EB's but after the first year i decided to run my soaker hose through my five gallon containers and therefore i didn't need the EB's anymore. i gave them to a friend visiting from michigan because they were to big to fit on the table which held the rest of my containers.

grampapa
Wheatfield, NY
(Zone 6a)

September 21, 2008
11:05 AM

Post #5579499

I use the self-watering containers from Gardener's Supply. I have several of them on carts they have available to raise them up so they are easier to get to (and on casters). The whole thing is very much like an EB. In fact, I think I'm going to get a genuine EB for comparison.

I had my best year yet...tomatoes, cukes, Roma beans, bell peppers, watermelon (one). I tried corn and got almost no pollination, so I'll have to work on that. (I also have 2 varieties of potatoes in fabric tubs, but this is the EB forum, so I'll let that slide)

here's a link for the containers if anyone's interested (this is the whole kit with the cage, fert, soil and red plastic mulch. you can buy just the container)

http://www.gardeners.com/Tomato%20Success%20Kits/VegetableGardening_TerrificTomatoes,35-776RS,default,cp.html

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grampapa
Wheatfield, NY
(Zone 6a)

September 21, 2008
11:28 AM

Post #5579530

The $30 Earthbox is the basic equipment. What you are paying for if you get the one at 47.95 is fertilizer and growing mix. the 52.95 has organic fertilizer so it's a little more expensive. Does this help clarify?
IO1
Waaaay Down South, GA

September 21, 2008
4:39 PM

Post #5580559

Hi Frank ...
Great to see you, and thanks for your vote of confidence! LOL Of course we southern gals get our way. We know how to sweet talk our men! grin

grampapa
That sounds interesting. It's great to see different varieties and other choices. :)I'm going to check that link out to see what the difference is. I really don't care what you call them ... I just love EB's! LOL They really work for me.
~Susan
bookworm28
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

September 23, 2008
2:22 AM

Post #5587354

Susan - great forum - so glad you and others have gotten it going and letting me know about it. I've needed some extra coaching on the use of the EB version, even though I've had success with tomatoes, squash, and lettuce. I'd like to try some different crops.

Grampapa - thanks for sharing the great photos! I've been debating ordering some from GS and those on your deck look really pretty. I guess I'd have to get a ladder out for the tomatoes - those are really tall! My DH, bless his heart, cares about appearances more than a fresh tomato (I know, ????), and he doesn't like the look of the EB with the white plastic cover. Do those have a plastic cover?
IO1
Waaaay Down South, GA

September 23, 2008
3:37 AM

Post #5587701

Hi Book ... great to see you. I'm anxious to learn everything I can from all my friends who use any variety of EB's, so come back and share your knowledge and successes with us. :)
bookworm28
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

September 23, 2008
3:47 AM

Post #5587726

Will do, IO1! I learned the hard way that placing an EB on a concrete driveway is great for getting early March warmth to tomatoes, but the kiss of death to them in late May/June when it gets really hot here. I did get a pretty good crop that first year, but wouldn't try it again. Thus, I'm looking for a location that gets enough sun, sits on dirt or grass, and will meet the "appearance" priority from our den picture windows.



ladygardener1
Near Lake Erie, NW, PA
(Zone 5a)

September 23, 2008
12:52 PM

Post #5588421

Like grampapa, I have the Gardeners Supply Boxes. This is the 3rd year I have grown my tomatoes in the boxes. I don't have the stands for them, they just sit on the cement along the driveway.
At the end of the season I cut down the tomato plants and dump the dirt in a spot where the soil could use some improving (I have clay soil). In the spring I order the refill kits from GS, the kits have soil, fertilizer and the red plastic mulch.
To answer bookworms ? The plastic mulch servers as a cover, but does not go over the edge of the box, I tuck mine down between the soil and the inside of the box, it gives a much neater appearance.
The start up kit also came with a cage which is very important if you will be growing tomatoes, but I still use some re-bar stakes to tie up the plants as the plants get really heavy from the fruit and grow taller then the cages, the stakes just add extra support.
bookworm28
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

September 23, 2008
5:15 PM

Post #5589406

Great info ladygardener. In an EB, you place a strip of fertilizer granuals either in the center or one edge depending on the crop. Is that the same way with the GS boxes?
Tplant
Pembroke Pines, FL
(Zone 10a)

September 23, 2008
5:18 PM

Post #5589418

Hi gang -- If you live in a hot climate use the white side of your cover as black will absorb to much heat. Also use white EBs if you have a choice of colors. As far as concrete is concerned the new EBs come with casters so that should protect them from hot concrete. If you use other than patented EBs place them on a coulpe of pieces of 2X4 wood planks to keep them off the concrete. This is how I did it in my prior home as all I had was a large concrete patio and very little lawn that did not recieve enough sun because of large trees.
bookworm28
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

September 23, 2008
5:25 PM

Post #5589435

Very good points, T-plant! did have the casters, but had used the black plastic side up to help with warmth in March. Maybe it was the black plastic mistake and not the concrete that was the problem in the heat of June. I also got sick for a week or so, and probably didn't water them enough in early June. Also, I have the dark boxes.
Tplant
Pembroke Pines, FL
(Zone 10a)

September 23, 2008
5:44 PM

Post #5589487

Dark boxes are OK as long as you use a white cover and water regularly.
IO1
Waaaay Down South, GA

September 23, 2008
6:04 PM

Post #5589532

I have the terracotta colored boxes but do use the white covers. The DH plowed a little garden space using one of those electric tillers and I used the weed stopper material to set mine on. The first year I didn't do that, and the grass and weeds grew up around them causing insect problems. I haven't had as many since doing that. (knock on wood) LOL
bookworm28
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

September 23, 2008
6:43 PM

Post #5589676

Thanks Tplant - I think you've diagnosed the problem. Good idea about the weed stopper material, too Susan.
IO1
Waaaay Down South, GA

September 23, 2008
7:14 PM

Post #5589793

Okay, here's a question in reguards to growing herbs. Lets say I had room for an EB in my house, and when I watered it I put something under it to keep it from making a mess. Do you think herbs would be happy growing in the house in the winter? I donno, but can you imagine walking over and picking fresh basil, italian flat leaf parsley, oregano and thyme whenever?
glendalekid
Tuscaloosa, AL
(Zone 7b)

September 23, 2008
9:38 PM

Post #5590377

If you have a good, sunny window I would think they should be fine. I've read that herbs are easy to grow inside if they just have enough light.

Karen

ladygardener1
Near Lake Erie, NW, PA
(Zone 5a)

September 24, 2008
12:42 AM

Post #5591073

Bookworm asked [quote]In an EB, you place a strip of fertilizer granuals either in the center or one edge depending on the crop. Is that the same way with the GS boxes?[/quote]

You mix a cup full of fert with the soil before putting into the box and then sprinkle another cup again in 6 weeks and lightly scratch it into the top of the soil.

nanny_56

nanny_56
Putnam County, IN
(Zone 5b)

September 24, 2008
2:20 AM

Post #5591577

Herbs in the house...that would be cool!
bookworm28
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

September 24, 2008
2:59 AM

Post #5591744

Thanks ladygardener. I really wanted to compare the setup of fertilizer, covers, etc. for the GS and the EB versions. Very helpful information!

I've never tried to grow any herbs inside, but in a really bright window it might work. Yum!

araness
Auburn, AL
(Zone 8a)

September 25, 2008
12:54 AM

Post #5595548

See I go away to have a hurricane and ya'll start a whole new forum on me!

I'm up to 14 EB's now and can't wait to start my seeds in a few months for spring. Still have peppers going but those two are about at their ends (Ike, didn't help). I've tried twice to grow zuke in my EB's and both times I have failed...but my tomatoes and cucumbers do fantastic.
Tplant
Pembroke Pines, FL
(Zone 10a)

September 25, 2008
1:31 PM

Post #5597413

Hey your back! Terriffic. Next hurricane don't stay away so long? LOL Seriously ,good to hear from you. 101 has been keeping us to date and I've been thinking of sending you a long extension cord. Is your surgery date still on?
araness
Auburn, AL
(Zone 8a)

September 25, 2008
3:01 PM

Post #5597812

LOL If I thought it would have worked I'd have tried it! Yes, she called me late yesterday with a date of Oct 3. So keeping my fingers crossed, I followed in your footsteps and caught a cold so the 26th date wasn't going to happen even if the Doctor's office staff hadn't been scattered by the hurricane.

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