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That one is pretty neat! I remember seeing photos when they 1st intro'd it. I've heard that referred to as 'cresting'. Jack Carpenter has one (or two) that do something similar...can't remember their names off hand. Bob Faulkner had one in his seedling bed last yr and when I asked him about it...he didn't seem too thrilled...LOL
I was also told by a pretty knowledgable hybridizer that if you do enough long crosses using Lavender Blue Baby - you can get a crested one too???
If you were to take your favorite daylily (probably a clump of it) and use nothing but Lavender Blue Baby pollen on the blooms resulting in a multitude of seeds...you would have done a long cross. I think different hybridizers have different ideas as to how many seeds make a 'long cross'...100-200?...probably a matter of preference.
I don't have room for that here and I would just cry if I planted 100 seeds of the same cross and they all looked pretty much the same and none were worth keeping...that would be a major waste of space for me.
Plus - I'm just too curious to see what different pollens will do with different blooms, so I'm happy with 10-15 seeds of each different cross that I do.
It was so interesting to see this post. I was actually going through looking at a lot of daylilies and found their site and was so surprised to see a hybridizer in my area. I emailed them and asked about Michael's Sword and if it looked like this on every bloom, and they said yes. I do plan to visit their garden this year to see it in person as they are only about 30 minutes from me.
I certainly hope to, plus any of their other seedling future hopefuls. It will be interesting. Bad thing is, I know I wouldn't have time to post any photos until mid-November...to busy all the other months.
I believe feathered and bearded are considered the same thing. 'Michael's Sword' and 'Texas Feathered Fancy' are the only two I've heard of, though I'm aware that it's another direction that some hybridizers are working on. I think consistency in the feathering is one of the current problems. But, I'm not certain about that.
Well, now you guys have done it, but good. I just got a big bonus check from work, and when I saw this daylily I decided I just had to have it. I'm going to be beginning hybridizing in 2009, and I know this will be a great addition to my program. I also want to do a lot of spiders and UFO's as well as get into the stippled ones. Anything unusual I like. What a fantastic daylily Michael's Sword is!
Oops! Now the hyperlink at the top of the page doesn't work, as I bought that DL and the auction has ended. You'll have to look at it at their website now, unless they post another auction soon. Sorry about that!
Bee's Betty Sue is one of the parents of Michael's Sword. I don't know if it's the pod parent or pollen parent. Which one is listed first? BBS was the first x Lavender Blue Baby.
I have a self sown seedling somewhere in my confused and weedy jungle that when it survives shade from my acorn grown oak (now two feet thick) and manages to bloom, has tiny purple feathers that surround the anthers while the flower is pale yellow. I keep meaning to move it, it didn,t bloom at all last year, poor thing, While self sown I suspect itwas another forgotten seed pod from when I was buying potted daylilies in the Spring and pt Little Business pollen on old Orangeman or the lemon lily. If I remember (and get organized) I'll try to get it moved next Spring..Its barely a foot high and early. I,ll probably forget or get busy in some other corner ofthe yard.!
Ditchlily206, you could say you are a budding enabler at that. Ah, well, it doesn't take much to enable me. I had dreams of getting an Ilex Verticilata (Winterberry Holly) tomorrow at a local nursery, as they were only $29, but now that I've spent so much on the DL I will have to wait on the holly.
DebbieD, that Ohio Discovery is very nice, too. Don't know anything about it. Trying to get info on Google now. What I liked about Michael's Sword is that it was 90-100% bearded (or feathered or crested, take your pick!) and that it passed that trait on to it's kids. Since I want to get serious about hybridizing, then I need to pick out the best quality plants I can find, with the traits I would want in a daylily.
Oh, I just found out that TET LAVENDER BLUE BABY does have the genetics for the bearding. There is a DL called UNENDING MELODY, and one of its parents was TLBB. Then from UNENDING MELODY came OHIO DISCOVERY, a bearded daylily. Nice to know. I have to learn a lot more about DL genetics.
Curt Hanson has a line of interesting and unique daylilies that go beyond "beards." I have grown the most extreme one for a few years, using it to make seed for him with the cultivars I have. He finally introduced it last year. He calls it "SIGOURNEY" after Sigourney Weaver of the movie "Alien"... LOL... SIGOURNEY takes this bearding or whatever quite a few steps further. It is quite consistent. I think of it as feathering... SIGOURNEY is one of Curt's cultivars that has an extreme pinched throat, and this unusual trait shows down in the throat, not way out on the petals. Although it is not a traditionally beautiful flower, it is the strangest, most captivating thing. I think he may introduce another from this line for 2009.
Here is a close-up. Some of the close-ups I took were morphed together to make Curt's very unique 2008 cover.
Edited to add that SIGOURNEY is a tet, and is pollen fertile, it has set pods, but its difficult.
Oh, thank you so MUCH, Jules! I was just wondering this morning (for the umpteenth time) what the WHOLE flower looked like. It is indeed, just the kind of thing I would like to have in my garden. I've taken to referring to him as Curt 'Master of Weird' Hanson. But the only pic I'd ever seen of 'Sigourney' was the one used in the cataloge which doesn't reallt show much.
my full flower shot would look to some like it does not open - but actually, the petals are very pinched... so that the flower has a very three dimensional appearance. The petals open, but the pinching causes a frontal view to appear like it is not open when compared with "standard" forms. I joked with him that he should cross it with something really short, and call the result "Ankle Biter" ...
I think it would be correctly termed a polychrome - it has some pink tones - so it should cross well with all colors. I am anxious to see what he gets from it in the future. I know I crossed it to everything that was open that Curt did not have. He wants a broad base of seedlings from it to work with. Who knows what forms he can get from this line.
Going to Curt's garden is so much fun. You never know what you will see.
I **think** this is a SIGOURNEY kid. It might be a sib, or another in that line. I don't have it in my notes. But, I am **pretty** sure it is a kid.
And this is that same seedling, but a different flower, from the side. This clearly shows what I am talking about the pinching, for those who are unfamiliar with it. Look closely and you will see that the petals curl back on themselves so much, that from the side, you can see the top of the petal color, curled back. It is so curled back, you can stick your finger down in there, like a tube.
It is a definite three dimensional flower - these are not flat faces. I just love them. Many go back to Rock Lobster.
For years, I crossed flowers like this to big long petaled things like Bali Watercolor. Since I am physically unable to grow seedlings due to my health and lack of mobility, I give all my seeds to Curt. Some of those should have bloomed this past year, and many should bloom this coming summer. I hope he sees some interesting things. I am hoping that it really shows a three dimensional look... that you have one layer, with the sepals, then maybe 3-4 inches of pinch, then the petals being long enough to raise the petals way above the sepals before they open up. Kind of like fireworks. Who knows? That is what is so much fun about these new forms showing up.
Yes, thank you for posting that! Very neat! Some friends and I got to visit Curt this summer. WOW! what a great place! Of course we picked a day that storms and downpours were moving through at a pretty good pace. It had rained at least once before we got there and not more than 20 min after we arrived, we had to head to the pump house for a nice thunder storm.
Amazingly, there were still daylily blooms left that had held their ground thru all the rain. We saw several with pinched petals. Hope to be able to get back there next yr...on a sunny day!
Here's another seedling showing off with a pair of 'bearded buds' illustrating consecutive 3-way bearding on all three petals. Both seedlings as noted bloom with 100% 3-way bearding!!! What will be our next milestone in the daylily world?
And yet another day of bloom showing aggressive 3-way bearding...
- just thought to contribute a few bearded ones as per the generated post. May give a bit more insight to what is going on in some "behind the scenes" areas of the daylily world. Very few people have seen these daylily pics as far as I know.
I believe the bearding trait will be the next new frontier to explore in daylilies. It's anybody's guess where bearding genetics will take us from here? I have a new 'bearding' hypothesis of my own I'd like to see unfold in the next few years.