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WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
November 30, 2008
03:54 PM Post #5844699
| After completing a brown bag technique on the hallway in our
home, hubby seemed to like it. After I put about six coats of
polyurethane on the hall over time, he really loved it. Last week he
asked me if I would do the technique on his bedroom floor. Of course
I could not resist, so here we go!
Step one...
I ran the Eureka over the floor, cleaned and rolled up the
area rugs that had previously hidden the hideous floor and ran
the Eureka again. You can see where I one time thought about
painting the floor and gave up, tossing area rugs on top of it
instead. Fixxer-uppers. Sigh.
After using a palm sander to flatten all the areas of the floor with
bumps and blips, I used a crowbar, hammer, screwdriver and
whatever else I could find to remove nails from the floor. They seem
to work their way out of the floor. Nails and wood - boo. Use screws.
In areas where the floor was damaged from boring a hole to remove
the nails, I used a wood putty to fill the holes, then sand flat after the
putty was completely dry. Run the vac, then mop or wipe down to remove
all dirt, dust and residue.
So today, I am about to begin again. Here is what the floor looks like
at 1:39 p.m. on Sunday, November 30. Pretty sad looking, yes?
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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jomoncon
New Orleans, LA
(Zone 9a)
November 30, 2008
04:17 PM Post #5844757
| Wuvie,
Yes, it is a little sad looking, but it's a work-in-progress. This out to really turn out interesting. Keep us informed of you progress, and of course the finished picture!!
This message was edited Nov 30, 2008 2:17 PM |
RainbowRider
Brunswick, GA
(Zone 9a)
November 30, 2008
04:33 PM Post #5844832
| I'm waiting to see what a brown bagged floor looks like. This is all new to me.
|
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
November 30, 2008
05:04 PM Post #5844947
| After applying wallpaper paste to plate-sized torn pieces of brown
paper, I simply fold them in half, though not perfectly. When I have a
good sized stack of pasted paper, it's time to begin. No need to be
perfect, just start smoothing them out on the floor like a messy jigsaw
puzzle. Be sure to cover the floor, you can overlap, no problem at all.
Working quickly, after you've placed all the paper, roll over it with a
paint roller dipped in polyurethane and start rolling. Don't put a thick
coat on the first time, but don't be too stingy, either.
The floor will appear very dark at first, don't worry. It will lighten as it dries,
but will keep that splotchy look.
Here is a small section of the room which is still wet, thus very dark:
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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bivbiv
Central FL, FL
(Zone 9b)
November 30, 2008
05:23 PM Post #5844976
| Do you mean that you apply the polyurethane before the paste has dried? |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
November 30, 2008
06:19 PM Post #5845118
| Hi Biv,
Absolutely. If you allow the paste to dry first, the look will end up much
lighter. This is fine, if this is what you desire, in fact, you could do the
entire floor in paper, allow it to dry, then come back and poly it all at once.
I just love the mottled look, so I roll the poly as soon as I wash the wallpaper
paste off my hands.
*TIP* Keep a hammer handy, you never know when you will find something
sticking out of the floor that you may have missed.
|
jomoncon
New Orleans, LA
(Zone 9a)
November 30, 2008
06:59 PM Post #5845231
| Your floor is really looking good. Thanks for sharing the tip about applying the poly before the paste is dry. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
November 30, 2008
07:28 PM Post #5845324
| It is going to be a bit difficult to do the entire room, because hubby still
sleeps in there and has large furniture to move. But today, I've completed
a good section which I will run another coat of poly over Tuesday morning
as I go out the door to work.
I'd like to get six coats on before moving the furniture back, but I'll settle for
a few, then hopefully leave the furniture where it is for some time and run
coats over the rest of the area. I can't wait to finish this, because the hallway
is connected to his bedroom.
Ever since I was little, I've always wanted a flat floor that I could sweep, mop,
wax, whatver, then put on my socks, run like the wind and sliiiiiiiide across
the floor. Call me silly, but I'm envious of people who have nice clean floors
on which they can use a Swiffer Sweeper or Wet Jet. Now I can, too, whooo hooo!
A little more completed...
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
November 30, 2008
07:39 PM Post #5845357
|
And a bit more. Still wet, but will lighten by tomorrow.
The hole in the floor is actually the heater vent. We'll
replace the grate after it is fully dry.
Click the image for an enlarged view.
|
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
November 30, 2008
07:42 PM Post #5845371
| Whew, I gotta quit. My knees are killing me. |
jomoncon
New Orleans, LA
(Zone 9a)
November 30, 2008
07:50 PM Post #5845393
| I sure hope you were wearing knee pads!! |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
November 30, 2008
07:56 PM Post #5845422
| I sure wish I was. LOL. Better brains next round. |
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
November 30, 2008
08:26 PM Post #5845536
| That is looking really cool! I like it! Can't wait to see it all finished!
Brenda |
bivbiv
Central FL, FL
(Zone 9b)
November 30, 2008
09:01 PM Post #5845673
| Thanks for the info. I'd prefer the darkly mottled look. I'd be afraid the lighter version would simply appear to be exactly what it is: paper bags...thus having the appearance of something "done at home with loving hands." I can't wait to see your finished floor. Guess I'll have to, though; I'm sure it's a fairly lengthy process. Thanks for sharing. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
November 30, 2008
09:18 PM Post #5845746
| To show the difference in color, here it is with only wallpaper
paste, applied to the floor, still wet:
Click the image for an enlarged view.
|
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
November 30, 2008
09:19 PM Post #5845750
| The same spot, freshly rolled with polyurethane: 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
|
bigred
Ashdown, AR
(Zone 8a)
December 01, 2008
12:31 PM Post #5847466
| Hey! That's TOO neat! Wonder if it'll work on a concrete floor?
peggy |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
December 03, 2008
12:23 AM Post #5853192
| Hi Peggy,
Yep. You bet. Just smooth down the sharp spots, sweep &
mop or clean it very well, then run a sealer over it before applying
pasted paper.
More to come later, have lots to do and working out of town for
a few days. Sigh.
KM |
bigred
Ashdown, AR
(Zone 8a)
December 03, 2008
08:12 AM Post #5853784
| Wuvie,
We turn a covered porch into an enclosed room. Right now the concrete floor is painted w/ porch paint...which isn't holding up too well. Hub's want to put down ceramic tile and I want a floating wood floor but this brown bag idea is supper. |
taters55
(Linda Kay) Del Rio, TX
(Zone 9a)
December 03, 2008
11:35 AM Post #5854321
| If I were to put this on a concrete floor, and then decided I, or hubby did not like it, how easy it is to remove?
LK |
caro_uk
near cardiff
United Kingdom
December 05, 2008
08:10 PM Post #5862848
| Luv it wuvie, you got me a thinking,yes im thinking about putting this in my bedroom as my carpet as seen better days lol.i can see how good that is gonna be. |
jomoncon
New Orleans, LA
(Zone 9a)
December 05, 2008
10:14 PM Post #5863206
| Wuvie,
How's the floor coming. We want to see pictures of the finished project!!
Jo-Ann |
shelleydar
Churubusco, IN
(Zone 5b)
December 07, 2008
04:36 PM Post #5868312
| I have to wonder how well it will hold up over time...? |
bivbiv
Central FL, FL
(Zone 9b)
December 07, 2008
05:27 PM Post #5868436
| With three coats of polyurethane on top, I'd think it should hold up well. I did a bathroom floor with Mexican terra cotta tiles that I stained with water-based woodstain (cobalt blue) and stamped a pattern on with acrylic paint. It has two coats of poly on it and is now almost five years old and is in good condition. |
slcdms
Ripley, MS
December 07, 2008
05:36 PM Post #5868455
| I have a question, about the brown bags, where do you get them? It is all plastic here now, can you buy the brown paper somewhere?
Sandra |
jomoncon
New Orleans, LA
(Zone 9a)
December 07, 2008
07:41 PM Post #5868795
| The brown bags are not really bags. I've used brown paper on rolls that you can get at Home Depot, Lowes and I'm sure other places. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
December 07, 2008
07:44 PM Post #5868803
| Hi Sandra,
The material I use is not actually brown bags, but rolls of the
same type of paper. It is commonly called contractor's paper.
This is the paper most contractors use to wrap around light
fixtures and other items they do not want to splatter with paint.
Doorknobs and other items are often masked off with this
material.
With regard to durability, I have to say that the more coats of
poly, the better, but this application has been quite a challenge
considering I have a son at home, a hubby, and multiple pets.
Pets don't quite get the 'don't walk on the wet section' rule.
Right now, half of the bedroom is marked off with 2 x 4s and
can's of paint, not to mention a coffee table, and yet still they
can't resist going the wrong way.
It is looking great, but it won't really be fabulous until I get it all done.
Once I have it down with a coat or two of poly, I'm going to kick (no,
make that LOCK) everyone out of the house, then use a long handled
roller and roll a nice thick coat of poly on the entire floor. Then it is out,
out, out of the house for a long period. Perhaps I'll do this one Friday
morning if I get up early enough before work. Then boot everyone out,
and by the time we get home (prolonging the day by going to dinner)
it should be pretty dry. The next morning I can walk around bare footed
with my coffee and admire it.
Can't wait!
Taters, with regard to removing it, I'm not really sure what to say, as I
am placing mine with the intention that it is a far cry better than what
the floor looks like now. If anything, an area rug will cover it up. This
is why you should first try it on a piece of wood, say a sheet of plywood.
Cover the plywood as if it were your floor. Then after the poly has dried,
lay the plywood on your floor and imagine the floor looking as such. You
could even apply it to a piece of poster board as a test. I'm hoping mine
is permanent.
:-) KM
P.S. For those who don't want to apply the paste with bare hands, your
local medical supply may have disposable gloves. Protects the manicure,
ya know. |
bivbiv
Central FL, FL
(Zone 9b)
December 07, 2008
08:11 PM Post #5868881
| I buy disposable latex gloves at the supermarket. They're in the cleaning materials aisle. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
December 07, 2008
09:35 PM Post #5869108
| Yep, that will work, too. :-) |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
December 15, 2008
11:21 AM Post #5893687
| This looks like a solution to the upstairs floor in an 80YO farm house I am helping restore. It was an attic that was converted to living space, but the original 6" T&G boards have been poorly patched and are in rough condition - even after drum sanding.
If I may ask - what do you estimate the cost of your process to be - and how big is that floor?.
This is before sanding.
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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woodspirit1
Lake Toxaway, NC
(Zone 7a)
December 18, 2008
02:39 PM Post #5905058
| How well does this hold up? Do you have to apply lots of coats of the polyurethane? So it can be mopped with no worries? |
bivbiv
Central FL, FL
(Zone 9b)
December 18, 2008
05:57 PM Post #5905726
| What a shame to cover those nice old floorboards, though. |
woodspirit1
Lake Toxaway, NC
(Zone 7a)
December 18, 2008
07:25 PM Post #5906025
| I wonder how you handle the corners... |
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
December 19, 2008
01:27 AM Post #5907216
| ummmm, cut corners??? LOL! |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
December 19, 2008
10:05 AM Post #5907754
| WUVIE - Where are you? |
woodspirit1
Lake Toxaway, NC
(Zone 7a)
December 19, 2008
10:18 AM Post #5907788
| lol, bsavage, you got me! |
psychw2
Boise, ID
(Zone 6a)
December 20, 2008
02:11 PM Post #5912167
| That really is a beautiful project. |
dahtzu
(Faye) Henderson, NC
(Zone 7b)
December 20, 2008
08:27 PM Post #5913218
| beautiful and hard! |
woodspirit1
Lake Toxaway, NC
(Zone 7a)
December 21, 2008
11:17 AM Post #5914795
| Now if we were really serious about recycling, we could save up paper bags and use them. Only one side would work unless you want the imprint of "Food Lion" or some such grocery chain all over your floor. I agree, with enough coats of polyurethane, the floor should hold up well. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
December 21, 2008
08:59 PM Post #5916845
| Sadly, the only paper bags any more these days, at least
in our area, are from expensive grocery stores. Everyone
uses (ugh!) plastic bags.
|
woodspirit1
Lake Toxaway, NC
(Zone 7a)
December 22, 2008
01:48 PM Post #5918860
| well there a million things that can be made from them too, lol. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
December 24, 2008
07:32 PM Post #5925881
| I only wish everyone would recycle them. Sigh. Those things are
all over the highway, in every yard with a chain link, etc. What a mess.
One day. :-) |
woodspirit1
Lake Toxaway, NC
(Zone 7a)
March 03, 2009
09:10 AM Post #6215372
| How about a final shot! |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX
(Zone 8b)
March 03, 2009
10:26 PM Post #6218488
| They are talking about putting a .07 cent tax on plastic bags here in Texas ... Now thats just crazy ...
I am saving paper bags to do my floors ...
Cheryl |
woodspirit1
Lake Toxaway, NC
(Zone 7a)
March 05, 2009
08:34 PM Post #6226870
| Save money and collect some of those cheap fabric tote bags. You can even make them if you are sure to use a stout fabric and seriously sewed-on handles. I have 4 and just keep them all in the largest one and take them into the grocery store. I don't even use produce bags for large items like a bunch of bananas or a pineapple.Cheaper and way more enviromentally friendly.
But some items I do not recycle because there is no market for them and they just go into the landfill. I actually called the landfill to find out what sell to recyclers and what they can't. |
mbhoakct76
Winsted, CT
March 05, 2009
09:19 PM Post #6227067
| that is so unique.
I'm amazed.
|
Brender
Topsham, ME
(Zone 5a)
March 08, 2009
03:56 PM Post #6238560
| Same here, Cheryl. They are talking about charging somewhere between .10 and .25 per bag at the grocery. |
FlowerofScotland
North Port, FL
(Zone 9b)
March 09, 2009
07:40 PM Post #6244444
| WUVIE...did you ever get finished with your floor? It looks great and I would love to see the finished result... |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
March 09, 2009
08:32 PM Post #6244641
| Sigh.
Some days I don't have time to eat. Tonight I just got home from work
and am trying to weed through 32 messages on the answering machine,
pay bills and maybe get out of my dress clothes.
Supper? A shower?
LOL. I'm not giving up on the floor. It has been so easy to keep clean, but
I must say, making certain you have all the nails pulled up is a big plus.
Stay tuned, don't give up on me,
KM |
dahtzu
(Faye) Henderson, NC
(Zone 7b)
March 09, 2009
09:16 PM Post #6244861
| not to worry Wuvie, we will stay tuned. |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
April 02, 2009
05:22 PM Post #6355956
| looking forward to seeing it when its finished. :-) |
Texasgal77
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)
April 29, 2009
11:38 PM Post #6482680
| Are we there yet Wuvie?????? Is it done? I can't wait to see it all! It looks gorgeous!
Jeanne |
curvesarein
Kingman, AZ
April 30, 2009
02:28 AM Post #6482927
| I want to see it finished too! |
curvesarein
Kingman, AZ
April 30, 2009
02:30 AM Post #6482929
| This is my finished faux redo of my patio, just put a clear coat on tonight, will have pics later on another thread when all finished and furniture it back on. So you girls can look at this until she gets done!! 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
|
msrobin
Caneyville, KY
(Zone 6b)
April 30, 2009
08:18 AM Post #6483283
| Looks great! Brown bagged? What kind of surface is below the treatment? Do you expect it to hold up to the weather fairly well after the clear coats? Anxious to see pics when furniture is in place! |
Texasgal77
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)
April 30, 2009
12:15 PM Post #6484180
| That looks great! Nice job! |
morrigan
Craryville, NY
April 30, 2009
04:30 PM Post #6485233
| Is THAT brown-bagged? Looks GREAT! |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX
(Zone 8b)
April 30, 2009
09:06 PM Post #6486302
| morrigan,
No its not its paint .. curvesarein has another post telling its painted.
|
dixiegril
Jesup, GA
July 21, 2009
06:26 PM Post #6847896
| Wuvie your floor looks fantastic. did you use a oil based poly...? you have inspired me to try this out. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
July 22, 2009
12:32 PM Post #6851107
| Hello Dixie,
Yes, I used an oil based Cabot polyurethane. The more coats, the better it looks.
:-) |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
July 24, 2009
03:48 AM Post #6858326
| Come on Wuvie, you know you have all us waiting to see that famous floor of yours... |
GrandmaThyme
Lacey, WA
July 24, 2009
01:09 PM Post #6859792
| Looks wonderful! It's amazing how something so mundane as kraft paper can be turned into something so lovely. I often wonder who thinks up an idea like this...was it your idea originally? It's definitely a labor of love...my knees just ache thinking about it!
|
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
July 24, 2009
01:15 PM Post #6859819
| Hi DR et all,
It is difficult to capture the floor given the room is dark, but here
is a sample of the floor. Warning, I should have run the sweeper
before taking pics, LOL.
You can actually get a better view by looking at the larger image.
:-) Karen Marie
Click the image for an enlarged view.
|
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
July 24, 2009
01:18 PM Post #6859833
| Grandma, while I've always thought about weird things like this,
decoupaging different things, I found the product particulars on
the internet. I never understood how putting paper on a floor could
be a good thing. Then I discovered there were keys.
Clean floor, coat of sealer, wallpaper paste and seal, seal, seal on top.
Very nice, tidy, easy to keep clean, looks cool. Easily repaired.
|
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
July 24, 2009
09:53 PM Post #6861795
| Still LOVING it! |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX
(Zone 8b)
July 25, 2009
08:52 AM Post #6862870
| KM you have out done your self again ... sitting here drooling on the keyboard ...
Nice Job
Cheryl
(still saving paper bags) :) |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
July 26, 2009
11:54 AM Post #6867109
| Thanks, all!
Cheryl, don't forget, every time you buy milk, ice cream and other cold
products, grab a freezer bag. Some stores offer Blue Bunny brand
brown bags for ice cream purchases. The logo can be cut out of the
front of the bag and still provide a good sized piece of paper. Plus it
is very thick.
I've been saving these bags for a while for the bathroom
floor. Although I did cover the bathroom floor in standard contractor's
paper, the floor was in such bad shape that it could really use a re-do.
Thick paper and about four coats of poly and whoo hoo!
|
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX
(Zone 8b)
July 28, 2009
10:54 AM Post #6875266
| KM,
thats where I get my bags I put everything cold in a brown freezer bag at the store.
one day when I have nothing to do ill start cutting the logo off of them
DH thinks im crazy, but I showed him your floor and he thought it looked cool ..
|
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
July 28, 2009
11:12 AM Post #6875377
| Thanks for the picturs Wuvie.. I love this idea so much but the area I would have to do it in, I think would take me years to complete.. lol.. and of course I would want it all done that day so I could see how it looks.. :-) And I would have to take it down stairs.. two sets of them.. I am so sick of carpet.. Even though our carpet is only a year old, I HATE IT!!! We bought the house and it came with new carpet, the last owners said they almost ALMOST put in wood floors.. just my luck they didn't and now here I am stuck with freaking carpet... WHITE of all colors!!!!
WUvie does the Poly stink? or smell real bad? |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
July 29, 2009
01:56 PM Post #6880614
| Nah, it doesn't stink. But then again, I don't do large areas at one time.
That is the beauty of this stuff. You can pick up right where you left off.
It would be splendid to have an empty room, but doing small sections is
fine. Just make certain you put several coats of poly on. When applying
the paper, I always run a small fan on the area to help it dry faster.
Remember, the first coat will take the longest, because both the poly and
the paper will have to dry. After that, the 'poly only' coats won't take as long.
:-) KM |
nilly
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 5b)
July 30, 2009
11:37 AM Post #6884778
| I'm loving this!
Think I'll try it in the bathroom and if it works well in there, then maybe the kitchen! |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
July 30, 2009
12:04 PM Post #6884910
| I am worried about the areas where the plywood joints up together, cracks or areas where the wood doesn't meet up perfect.. And of course its under our carpet so I have no idea what it looks like without ripping it up and OUT.. I wonder if DH would let me try it on our steps leading down to the kitchen, We have two set of steps that lead down to the kitchen, each with 6 steps with a landing that meets at the bottom of both steps (sections) I could do one side and see how he likes it.. There wouldnt be no turning back once carpet was pulled up.. lol.. |
katiebear
mulege
Mexico
July 30, 2009
12:40 PM Post #6885051
| I am doing my bedroom walls and floor in brown bagging. I have a couple suggestions which may help with the above questions.
My room is concrete block and the floors are rough concrete. The first walls I did I did not use enough sealer and/or paste. A lot of the paper came loose I was able to reseal and repaste some of it but that's a nasty job. Some of it I pealed off in large chunks, repasted and used on the floor; this is also more difficult and time consuming than doing it right to begin with.
For the floor I had Tony, my friend who works for me, fill in the worst of the gouges. (The person who did the beginnings of the house I'm living in/working on was not a perfectionist.) For people with gaps to deal with, the sealer will fill in narrow gaps. If wide, yyou can use a wood or concret fillerto block buggs, seaping moisture, etc. To appy the paper, I appy the paste to ONE PIECE AT A TIME. Using caps to emphasize that this is a major difference from the usual method. I smear a LOT of paste all the way to the edges then press it to the wall and run my fingers over it to seal. I also am careful to check back sever times during the drying process to be sure it is stickingI. It often looks hopelessly wrinkled during the drying but it miraculaously smooths out once it's dry.
I finished sealing about one-fourth of the bedroom yesterday. It was still quite wrinkled when I went to bed. It is almost totally smoth this morning. Ready for varnish. whooppee.
It is not perfect but a perfectionist shouldn't live in Mexico anyway. It would be too frustration.
For people doing this for the first time I urge you to strt small on something that is the same finish as you will be doing for a big project. If you can, wait a bit to see how it holds up and to let what you've learned from doing it soak in.
This may be because of my hot, humid climate but walls that looked great for the first week or more, peeled off over time (several months).
Remember that your time is more valuable than the materials and use lots of sealer and paste. Show yourself that you value your work,OK?
I must go apply some varnish.
Good ;luck to all.
I will add that this looks great, even with a few wrinkles. and, boy, am I glad to see the concrete disappear. I don't like the look of raw concrete block and the rough floor in impossible to keep clean. I won't mop a lot like Wuvie, but at least I'll be able to sweep or vacumn and have it do some good.
katiebear
|
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
July 30, 2009
05:36 PM Post #6886266
| Katiebear, can you post some pictures?? Thanks for all the info! |
katiebear
mulege
Mexico
July 30, 2009
06:14 PM Post #6886425
| When I get out from under. I haven't done pictures so it's another thing I have to learn.
Picture wallpaer that has pealed off the upper half of the wall and is hanging down like buzzard wings.
kb |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
July 30, 2009
06:34 PM Post #6886512
| Katie, why is your paper peeling? Did you prime the walls first? Wow.
Also, above you mentioned pasting one piece at a time. What would
be the alternative? In other words, did you try to do large sheets?
Karen
|
katiebear
mulege
Mexico
July 30, 2009
07:05 PM Post #6886615
| I either did not use enough sealer or enough paste. I'm working on rough concrete, remember. Instead of booking the dinner plate sized pieces of paper and stacking twenty pieces, I apply the paste to one piece at a time (same size, dinner plate - roughly) and then appy that piece to the concrete. I think on the rough concrete both extra sealer and extra paste are needed. The wall I did this way is holding up well, so far.
Does that help?
kb |
blkraven2
Wells, TX
August 01, 2009
03:14 PM Post #6894473
| Wuvie, I have a old 1940s house where I ripped out the carpet in the living room and dining room cause I hated it. I knew I had hardwood floors under it and had the dream of just refinishing the floor.. but NOOOOOOOOOO...of course not that would be to easy... as Im removing the carpet Im finding 2 4x8 sheets of plywood where they cut the floor away to get under the house to repair the beams..one in the living room the other in the dining room. Im on a pier and beam foundation. Where they cut away the hardwood floor and put in the plywood there is a crack which I know I can fill in with wood filler but the plywood is also about 1/4 in lower than the hardwood.. do you think if I do a fill in with wood putty to soften the difference between the two levels it would work?? then I could do the brown bag.. |
katiebear
mulege
Mexico
August 01, 2009
03:25 PM Post #6894505
| That would take a lot of wood putty Could you seal the plywood along with the rest of the floor and then use something like layers of newspaper to make it level. Once the brown bagging is in it's pretty stable. You could use a flour and water paste to make the newspaper more stable.
I just finished varnishing the first one/fourth of the bedroom floor. The a/c is on to keep the temp below 90 and the door is shut to keep the dogs and cats out.
While I was looking in my storage shed for a painbrush I found three more gallons of Wallpaper paste. Whooppee!! I thought I was going to have to delay the work until I made another trip to the states. This has been a rough week for me so I'm very happy about this.
katiebear |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
August 01, 2009
04:50 PM Post #6894768
| Blkraven, we have the same difficulty in the bathroom. You may want to check on purchasing a sheet of Hardibacker board / concrete board. There are different terms for it, some even refer to it as cement board. I would not fill in with putty.
I even considered squirting 'Great Stuff' foaming sealer on the floor, then placing a sheet
of concrete board on top of it. As the house is not worth investing too much (it will NEVER be featured on HGTV, ha ha) the best option is to cover, hide and make things look better than they actually do. If we were to invest the money to make this house right we would
be better off with a bulldozer. It's that or a book of matches.
:-) KM |
blkraven2
Wells, TX
August 01, 2009
05:20 PM Post #6894851
| Thanks for the help and ideas ladies I do appreciate it.
..what if I level it with plaster, seal it then do the brown baging.. when I tore out the carpet I found places when they spread plaster to make the corners more level with the rest of the room.. that way it would almost self level then all Id have to do is float sand the edge of the plaster and seal it. it would take a ton of news paper to level it and the cement board would be to thick. I have 1/4in scrap I laid on it to see if that would work..what do you think?? |
katiebear
mulege
Mexico
August 01, 2009
05:47 PM Post #6894951
| Can you remove the plywood and put shims under it to make it level?
kb |
blkraven2
Wells, TX
August 01, 2009
08:46 PM Post #6895572
| I maybe could but Im afraid Id make it worse its so old.. I have to do everything myself Ive no husband or BF to help.. and where I live Im considered an "outsider" so Ive not many friends that I could ask for help.either.. |
katiebear
mulege
Mexico
August 01, 2009
10:51 PM Post #6896127
| That does make it harder.
You could experiment with some small areas before tackling the floors. Believe me, doing a small project like a little table will teach you a lot and improve your confidence.
This is reallly one of those things that you learn by doing.
It's very forgiving and reparable but it will be better if you make your learning mistakes on a small project. The voice of experience here.
katiebear |
blkraven2
Wells, TX
August 02, 2009
12:28 AM Post #6896442
| I know what you mean.. Im known for jumping in and tackling things most people would never do..Ill buy a book on something then away I go..lol.. Ive done some small things similar to the floor. its just its a lot harder for me to do things since being hurt ( I got kissed by a pickup while on my motorcycle. I almost didnt make it) so I dont do some of what I used to.. But I keep trying..
thanks for encouragement and suggestions |
lonejack
Lake Oswego, OR
(Zone 8a)
August 02, 2009
02:39 AM Post #6896660
| blkraven2
Here is a web site for ferrocement. I am sure they could tell you about how
you could float a cement floor over the one you have. A ferrocement floor
only needs to be 3/4 to 1" thick. You could dye it several colors and really
have a unique floor.
http://www.ferrocement.net/index.php?inc=1
lonejack.
By the way, WUVIE, the paper floor looks great!! I applaud you for trying it.
This message was edited Aug 1, 2009 11:42 PM |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX
(Zone 8b)
August 02, 2009
03:55 PM Post #6898374
| blkraven2
sorry to hear about your runin with the truck ...hubby had one a few years ago and its still a pain
|
trickiwoo
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)
August 02, 2009
04:02 PM Post #6898394
| Really pretty. Very good job.
Judy |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
August 03, 2009
10:00 AM Post #6901312
| blkraven2,
Here is a series of pictures of a similar bad patch. A previous tenant repaired some water damage at a bedroom door with plywood and crude framing. They did not cut the T&G flooring on a joist, either.
We removed and re-laid old and new tongue & groove, then sanded and have now refinished the floor.
3 pictures - 1) after removing the plywood, 2) repair, and 3)sanded
Click the image for an enlarged view.
|
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
August 03, 2009
10:00 AM Post #6901314
| #2 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
August 03, 2009
10:01 AM Post #6901321
| #3 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
August 03, 2009
11:35 AM Post #6901677
| Good job on the floor repair, Bubba! That's a lot of work, but it looks great. |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
August 03, 2009
12:30 PM Post #6901892
| We have done all of the floors now. The rest were painted, and where some half-walls had been, were even filled with some plaster then painted - horrible looking.
Next steps - refinishing the mop boards, repainting the walls and ceiling, then installing the new, stained&finished quarter-round.
Same doorway - stained and first coat of poly, cleaning to apply 2nd.
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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blkraven2
Wells, TX
August 06, 2009
11:07 PM Post #6917110
| Bubba, I had to have a new floor put in my bathroom When the guys tore it out it turns out there were FOUR floors just laid on top of each other as they rotted.. The joists were so rotten you could crush them in your hand.the toilet was about ready to fall thru the floorit was that bad And it passed a house inspection!!! Go figure(shaking my head)!!! the crew replaced all the joists then added extra cross braces in front of the toilet for extra support.. then they laid 3/4 in exterior plywood then 1/2 hardi board then I laid a tile floor (my first and only) The entire job lowered the floor about 3 inches overall and made it level with the orginal hardwood floor I often wonder why people do such crappy jobs when for just a bit more it could have been done RIGHT!!! Im the kind of person that will live with it till I can get it done correctly cause I sure dont want to waste my time or money having to do it over!!! I keep telling myself I love old houses, I love old houses, yes, yes I do!!!...lol.. |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
August 07, 2009
10:26 AM Post #6918303
| Glad to know someone else REALLY want's the job done right.
We replaced the dining room floor at our restaurant this year, too. Amazing what water and termites can do.
Ordered 11 sheets of treated plywood, wound up using another 7. But we completed it in a little over 40 hours non-stop - team was three, and we each got about 3-4 hour sleep, so at least 2 were on site all the time.. |
juanita76
Laurel, MS
September 01, 2009
03:48 PM Post #7013810
| My family's idea of a good time is to jump in and revamp old houses. Last house we did had a car jack holding up the toilet! Talk about cutting corners! |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 01, 2009
04:00 PM Post #7013860
| juanita,
Have you ever seen "the Red Green Show"?
That's exactly the kind of thing Red would do. And, it would be held in place with duct tape - LOL. |
juanita76
Laurel, MS
September 01, 2009
10:09 PM Post #7015488
| Lol! My sisters, who do not share my fondness for T2T, often joke that the only thing in my toolbox is duct tape! |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 02, 2009
12:25 AM Post #7016053
| Well, me and DH are at a standoff.. We just had the carpets steamed cleaned in June. (the whole house) it was such a pain in the bottom!!! and cost so much $$$$ and yesterday he said well you need to make another appt for them to come out and clean the carpets.. I/we hate the carpets. I do not want to go thru that again.. I just wanna RIP them up and brown bag it.. Now trying to make my husband understand and go along with it.. lol.. Ripping out the carpets which are only a little over a year old.. but OMG they are that white cream color.. and even tho we dont wear our shoes in the house.. I can NOT keep them the color they are suppose to be and I always feel like they are dirty and are totally cleaning them all the time.. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
So at the stand off.. He wants me to call cleaners again and I wanna start cutting the carpet out of the house.. lol.. but then I think welllllll winter is coming and it does make the house warmer... |
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
September 02, 2009
12:28 AM Post #7016059
| I recommend buying your own steam carpet cleaner... we bought one at Costco a few years ago, and as we have 5 dogs... well, it's a necessity. And in the long run, saves a ton of money. (Lots of work for the one operating the carpet cleaner though... in my house that would be me...). |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 02, 2009
12:32 AM Post #7016068
| Oh we have a steam cleaner.. the biggest one we could find that they sale.. Has the hot steam and I use it all the time.. and yea in this house its me that uses it... lol.. I know I worked (went so slow) on the living room one day and it took 4 hours for the living room and the couch.. I was so sore the next day.. and when you have RA there is no way I can do that all the time.. So much work for it to just look great for a week or so.. I just think its the type of carpet we have.. I wish with all my heart the old owners would have put down wood floors instead of putting down all new carpet when they put the house on the market.. |
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
September 02, 2009
12:50 AM Post #7016119
| Yes, I am wishing for tile or wood floors myself... |
shelly61
townsville
Australia
September 02, 2009
02:32 AM Post #7016275
| Janice, another alternative may be to dye the carpet there are some very good dyes on the market and it sure beats having white, in one of my old houses I lived in years ago, I dyed mine a dark chocolate brown ( I had 4 small kids) the best thing I ever did. I went from stressing over white carpet daily to 'whatever' lol.
Just another thought !!!!!
good luck with what ever you decide
shell
|
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 02, 2009
03:59 AM Post #7016318
| Thanks Shelly for the suggestion.. I hadnt thought of that.. and you know how it is.. With the white its like OMG nobody is allowed to walk across the floor.. We suppose to float or glide without touching it.. lol..
I figured with the brown bag, we could place the wood floors over that when the time comes.. umm if the time comes.. lol..
Hmmm what kind of dye did you use?? and how did you do it if you dont mind me asking.. :-)
This message was edited Sep 2, 2009 2:01 AM |
tubbytee
Ames, NE
(Zone 5b)
September 02, 2009
06:01 AM Post #7016394
| Dirt-Road I have 5 dogs I put down Laminate flooring..Best thing I ever did..
Wide variety to choose from..
http://www.efloors.com/laminate_flooring_underlayment.asp
From what I read you can put hard board insulation down for added isulation
This message was edited Sep 2, 2009 6:16 AM |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 02, 2009
06:29 AM Post #7016435
| You guys ever sleep ? |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX
(Zone 8b)
September 02, 2009
02:16 PM Post #7017808
| Love the Red Green Show ... DH and I are still in a standoff about taking out the carpet ...
some days I think ill just cut a big hole in the middle and then he will have to move the heavy things I cant move ... thats the only thing holding me back... is my back ..lol |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 02, 2009
04:27 PM Post #7018251
| lol Digger~~ And you reply at 4:29 AM.. I was asleep, sleep walking and typing.. :-) No really!! lol.. Its amazing the things I find to do in the middle of the night.. Anything but sleep..
Deni~ I have thought the same as you.. Now if I just cut out a HUGE hole then he has to go along with it... lol..
I refuse to have someone come in and clean it again. To much money and it was like being FORCED to sit thru a 3 hour INFO commerical.. They wanted to add this on and that on and sale me this and sale me that.. Ugggggggggggggg.. Never again.. I thought they would just come in and clean the carpets. But they work in a team of two.. One works while the other trys to sale you everything under the sun.. Then when they said, NEXT year when we come back blah blah blah we can do this and that.. My husband spoke up and said naaa thats not gonna happen becuase this carpet is coming out!! lol.. The one guy even went as far as telling me he took his carpet out and put down wood floors and he hated it so he took that out and replaced the wood with more carpet... LOL YEA RIGHT!!! Oh and we have stairs so of course that was EXTRA.. Even though the package deal I got was for more rooms than we needed cleaned.. They still charged me for the stairs and the little landing at the bottom of the stairs.. GRRRRRRRRRRRR
The house we moved from didnt have any carpet and since we have moved in here my allergies are horrible.. I even remember when we first came to look at the house I would sneeze and get so stuffy.. I would write it off to all the HUGE oak trees, plants and flowers.. Then when my niece came to visit (after we were in the house for about a month) for the second time. she would do the same thing and even said I don't know why it is but I always sneeze and get stuffy when I come down here.. but she and I both were thinking, she lives up north a bit and not use to down here on the coast but now I am thinking it was the carpet... It has to be.. Oh and she doesn't have any carpet in her house. So she wasn't use to it either..
Plus I have this HUGE odor phobia.. I am so worried that the carpet might smell.. And I am always on odor guard.. When I come in from a day in town I always sniff sniff sniff just to see if the house smells different than it does with us being in it all the time.. Then when we did have it steamed cleaned.. OMG for a day and half the carpets (and that made the house stink) smelled wet, yucky.. Just nasty and I was so mad because I wanted it cleaned INCASE there was a smell and then they left a HUGE smell.. lol.. and of course it was 4 days before out of town guest were to come visit.. But thank goodness it finally dried..
BLah carpet is just a pain in my backside.. I wish WUVIE could have posted more pictures to show how great the floor looked.. I want to show my husband the pictures but can't seem to find any other pictures so he can get an idea of what I am talking about.. |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 02, 2009
04:41 PM Post #7018305
| DR , It was 5:30 here .D |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 02, 2009
04:49 PM Post #7018337
| lol... ahh on my page it has your time as 4:30 lol. Im running an hour behind you.. Well were you still up or just getting up? :-) okay wait.. I just checked the post I just made and it has it listed as an hour ago.. lol.. So I guess my time is wrong? OH well..lol.. |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 02, 2009
05:10 PM Post #7018395
| Checked the time on my puter. It says 4:09 , but it is really 5:09 , so mine is screwed up . digger |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 02, 2009
05:19 PM Post #7018414
| Did another google search and finally found a picture of a brown bag floor, one that it is finished and with furniture sitting on it.. I have to show my husband the BIG (finished) picture so he can get an idea of what I am talking about.. This picture will help, except I can see lines where the bags over lay.. is that normal? I dont think they prepasted the bags, like Wuvie suggested.. Here is the picture, maybe it will help somone else DENI.. lol.. I think I am going to set it as my desktop picture so HUBBY has to see it when he sits down to the puter.. lol..
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 02, 2009
06:10 PM Post #7018545
| Hi Dirt!
Just based on the picture alone, it appears they do not have very many coats
of poly on the floor. The more coats you have, the less the layover shows. I
think it is actually the angle at which the photograph was taken that accentuates
the lines, but they really aren't that prominent on my floor unless one takes the
time to look closely. Of course, this is on a porch where one would be able to
get such a shot, is my guess.
We have furniture on ours, too, it is not sticky. You just have to make certain
the floor is dry before putting any furniture on it. This floor is SO easy to keep clean.
A simple glide of the Quickie and it is clean. I use the flat Quickies that have the
machine-washable terry cloth covers. I simply clean the floor, remove the pad
and toss it into the laundry basket, but have extras so I can clean the floor every
day if I wish. To wet clean it, I run the Quickie over the floor while the pad is wet,
or use Pledge wood floor cleaner.
There is nothing I love better (well, for the sake of the conversation, that is...)
than taking a shower, then walking barefoot on the clean brown-bagged floor.
I detest carpet. It stinks, it holds odors, it gets dirty. Area rugs, yes. Carpet, no.
Don't feel bad, I'm still trying to convince hubby to get rid of the carpet in the
living room. And I will win. ;-) |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 02, 2009
07:08 PM Post #7018705
| "I detest carpet. It stinks, it holds odors, it gets dirty. Area rugs, yes. Carpet, no." AMEN!!!!
Grrrrrrrrr, I just showed hubby the new pictures and the first thing out of his mouth was what is the material? Which I had been putting off telling him because I knew he would just look at me like I am crazy.. lol. when I told him brown construction paper (trying to not mention paper bags) lol.. He just looked at me and said,, JAN then we would have brown paper like shopping bags on our floor.. ** roll eyes** made it sound like we would have homeless bag lady floors.. GRRRRRR lol.. I know what he is thinking.. we paid HOW MUCH for this house a year and ago and now you are wanting to glue paper bags on the floor... lol..
Hmmmmm when you say it that way it does sound crazy.. lol.. anyway, he walked off and and I said wellllllllllllll you didnt say yes or no.. He said, Im still thinking about it.. Now grant you with most things I do what I wanna do but geesh he would have to help me rip out the carpet.. lol.. so he has to be onboard with this whole idea.. :-)
Oh and thanks for the line info Wuvie.. That makes me feel better... I thought maybe they didnt have enough poly on it.. I have seen some pictures where the floors were real light.. and some that are real dark.. are the real light ones because they let the whole floor dry and then poly? HOw long does it take for the glue to dry? I mean I wonder how big of a section could I work in at a time? Look at me already making plans.. hee hee.. Well unless he can come up wood floors anytime soon, I see this as our only option.. Im not paying someone to come clean them again and Im not going to kill myself cleaning it either.. Also scratches? does the poly ever scratch? We do have a yellow lab and great dane but we also have poly in the kitchen floor (split brick) and it never scratches...
This message was edited Sep 2, 2009 5:18 PM |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 02, 2009
08:09 PM Post #7018873
| Hi Dirt,
Indeed, when you roll the poly has a lot to do with it, as does the application.
I don't squish and squeeze mine out, but some people smoosh it flat and
rub all over it, then poly. Others smooth and then let it dry, which makes it
very light. I love the dark splotches, so I barely apply it, then immediately
poly the floor.
You can do giant sections at a time, the only constraint, at least for me,
was traffic. We have a very long hall and plenty of pets, so it has to be
done when you can direct traffic for a while until it dries. After the first coat
of both paper, paste and poly drying, it only takes hours for just poly to dry.
Scratches bah. Unless you are dragging furniture across the floor, we don't
notice any scratches, and our dogs run and slide up and down the hall every day.
Very forgiving stuff, especially with each coat of poly. I'm ready to put a new coat
on just to make it even shinier. I love it!
Tell hubby it isn't brown paper bags, it is contractor's paper, and it is even installed
in high dollar restaurants. You would not believe the number of places I've been to
thinking "If only they would brown bag this place."
:) KM |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 03, 2009
02:00 AM Post #7020009
| I will whisper this in his ear all during the night while he is sleeping..
" even installed in high dollar restaurants"
It might just work.. lol.. Im sure he would love it, once its all done.. Wuvie do you remember how much that roll of paper cost and about how many did you use for your size room.. Im not sure what square footage I would be looking at.. The areas that all connect into each other is the living room (which is a pretty good size) then down our hall and the hall is HUGE big and wide.. Doesn't even seem like a hall.. lol.. and then there is the stairs.. one great thing is our stairs lead down into the kitchen and dining room.. but they are split there is two ways down to the landing at the bottom Two sets of stairs so I would be able to do one side of the stairs and then block it off and move to the other side after one dries.. As with your house, keeping the pets and the family off the wet spots are going to be a pain.. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH and WUVIE... you are my expert, if I have any questions.. lol.. I told hubby, I am working with an expert and she has even done her walls she loves it so much.. :-)
I would LOVE to get going on this this very weekend.. but I know my DH will still be making up his mind.. I could start in the spare bedroom, that way if he didnt like it its not big deal, we could just keep the door shut and then cover with wood later on.. But I wanna do all the other and leave the bedrooms for last.. That is if we even do them.. Its just the rest of the house I want to get done.. maybe the bedrooms later on.
OH and not looking forward to taking up carpet strips.. Those little nail things that I am always stepping on when going down the stairs or right when you come out of the bedrooms.. I hate those little nail tacks... |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 03, 2009
10:27 AM Post #7020715
| Oh, oh, oh, just read my own post and have to stress something.
While I mentioned doing large sections, I do have to add that you
might not want to make those sections too large, as the paper you
put down first will already be on it's way to drying by the time you
get to the bottom of the stack.
I apply my paper in sections as wide as hubby's king sized bed. Just
lay the roll on the bed, stretch it across the bed (the short side, not the long
side) and tear it off, then begin tearing the pieces up. This is a safe size
to do by oneself, though I admit to working quickly.
The paper runs different prices, anywhere from seven to ten or so dollars
per roll. I do advise buying as many rolls out of one box as you can at one
time. Once I could not locate the paper and almost freaked! Lowes is very
good about carrying it in the paint section. Be certain to look for the right
products. I can't say other products will not yield good results, but I know that
what I was taught to use works and works well.
Are you able purchase all of the materials locally? :-)
Another word of advice...start with a small section to get the feel for the
process. I know, I hate that, too, but you'll be amazed what you learn quickly.
There is a section in hubby's bedroom where I started, and though no one
else notices, I know it is there. I was smooshing the paper too hard and letting
it stay on the wall too long before applying the Draw Tite. Walls get Draw Tite
on top, floors get polyurethane, though you could certainly put poly on the walls
as well if you wish for the dark look.
Hope this helps, Karen
:-)
|
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 03, 2009
11:20 AM Post #7020946
| Yes, Thank you Karen it helps a whole bunch... Thats just want I needed to know about the size you lay out first plus I will have my 21 yr old daughter helping lay it with me.. We will tackle it like a team.. Yea I have bought the paper at Lowes here before when we were painting.. But I only recall it coming in a short roll.. Say like 12 inches wide.. Does it come in a bigger size? Yea I should be able to get everything at lowes. I would really LOVE to buy a roll of the Rose paper and find somewhere to put it.. Maybe on the stairs, not the top part that you step on but the board under that.. Heaven knows what its called.. lol.. But place it there to break up the color going down the stairs.. Its just a thought.. I wonder what the Rose and Brown colors look like together?? Also the stairs lead down to the kitchen where the floors are Red split brick, So maybe it would blend (match) going down.. if worse comes to worse I could always apply the brown over the Rose if I didnt like it.. That is before I poly it.. Do you recall the name of the Rose paper and what I am suppose to ask for at the store?
Thanks again, you have helped me so much... I wanna do this so bad and have DH say wow I really like it.. not OMG WTH did you do... lol..
Janice~ Dirt~ Dirt Road~ DR~ :-) |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 03, 2009
01:11 PM Post #7021401
| Hi Janice,
Oh, that is much better - referring to you by name instead of DIRT. LOL.
It seems like the pink paper is something like Red Rosin, that is coming to
mind for some reason. If I'm not mistaken, it is some kind of paper used in
roofing processes.
You know, I've tried the rosin paper with Draw-Tite, but not the poly. I'll bet
the poly / rosin would come out looking cool!
I have never been able to buy Draw-Tite at Lowes, nor the proper wallpaper
paste. I find the paste at Ace Hardware and have to order Draw-Tite on the
internet. GH-34 is the right paste, Roman's Golden Harvest. Draw-Tite should
be the clear, no-run formula, and the paper definitely comes in larger rolls, about
the length of a yardstick.
Best of luck with that hubby, I have the same issues here. I always come back with
"Well, it sure beats what it looks like now."
|
hmingbrd
Sebastian, FL
(Zone 9b)
September 03, 2009
05:29 PM Post #7022393
| Janice...I have an idea that might help you with DH. Take a pc. of paper and make a list on one side of all the reasons to KEEP the carpet...if you can think of any...lol! On the other side list all the reasons to get rid of it...it's expensive to clean, it's smelly, it's always dirty, it makes you sneeze, etc. You might want to work up a rough estimate of what it will cost to paper the floors too.
Just a thought, as your DH sounds just like the one I used to have to work around...lol! I usually just went ahead and did whatever it was...but maybe that's partly why he's my ex now!
Good luck with it, and Karen thank you SO much for posting about this...my house is old and so badly in need of some cheap floor covering, I can't wait to try this!
Becky |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 04, 2009
02:32 PM Post #7025725
| Becky I think thats a great Idea.. I think he is coming around.. slow but sure, Im still working on him and boy howdy its a 3 day weekend and he could RIP the carpet out for me.. lol.. I think I will have my list started when he comes home and ask him if he has any pros or cons to add to the list.. Gotta make it seem like he is adding imput.. lol..
And Becky if you do, I wanna no make that NEED to see pictures.. :-) The more proof I can show him the better... I keep thinkiing about the stairs.. I think they would look GREAT... and OMG no more stepping on carpet tacks while walking down them... It never fails.. I really think the stairs will be my starting point.. the stairs and the landing.. I think once he sees how great he will give me the green light.. I HATE our stairs.. they are so hard to vacume/steam clean and the landing at the bottom seems to the dogs favorite place to lay, so that I am always working on keeping clean.. Even using rugs at the bottom of the stairs on top of the carpet.. Umm okay gotta add that to my list.. lol..
Thanks everyone for letting me vent.. lol.. and for all the tips and encouragement
Wuvie~ I think thats what its called "Red Rosin" Thanks.. and I too think it would look great together, kind of break up the pattern.. As always thanks for your info and letting me pick your brain.. :-) Yes its Janice :-) but you can still call me Dirt if you wish.. lol.. I know its hard to shorten down Dirt Road, without calling someone Dirt.. lol.. When I came to Daves, As you know we have to pick a nickname to use and it was late at night and the only thing that came to mind was Dirt Road.. We use to go down this long Dirt Road when I was a kid and pick wild Dewberries with my grandmother, I loved that dirt road.. To me it meant riding in the back of the truck, and watching the dirt fly up behind us as my grandmother drove.. It also meant pies, jams, jelly and Sweet dumpling's with dewberries with a scoop of ice cream.. "-) Those days are long gone, my grandmother has passed away and the dirt road has been paved with houses all down it. Funny I would never ride or let my kids ride in the back of a truck.. lol.. but it was down a country road and my grandmother never went fast and of course she had us sitting on our butts in the bottom of the truck bed..But of course it felt like we were going a million miles an hour and flying free with the wind blowing through our hair.. And we were over 10 yrs old.. Ahh how times have changed.. :-(
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digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 04, 2009
04:43 PM Post #7026053
| Do you ever eat in that soom ? You could have a bowl of greasy food , soup or something really sloppy, with extra grease in it , in a bowl , and trip right in front of him . when you clean it up , the grease will make a big stain and what's next ? Either spend the dollars to clean it orrr , get rid of it . Or , if you don't eat in that room , maybe you can get some black oil from the local auto repair and mix some dirty axle grease in it , then spread where dogs or dh walks so they can track it in . Oh , I AM devious digger |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 04, 2009
04:48 PM Post #7026066
| Yeppers, Digger -- Age and trechery still beats youth and enthusiasm!! LOL |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 04, 2009
04:52 PM Post #7026077
| Hi , Bubba . Yes , us old codgers have it all over the kids , don't we ? |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 07, 2009
04:45 PM Post #7037313
| lol.. Digger you trying to get me in trouble!!! lol.. I wouldn't have far to look for the grease because hubby is a diesel guru around here and works side jobs at home.. this is why we have a strict no shoes in the house rule.. His work area is really clean, so no chance of one of our dogs running though it.. :-( Well he finally said, okay.. asked me to start on the first bedroom first to see if I like OR HATE it.. I was fine with that, but now this morning he has come back asking me to visit the flooring store here in town and see if there is anything that I like.. GRRRRRRRRRRR One thing he is worried its going to be to much work on me.. (because of my RA) and having to work down on my knees.. He said why pay all the money to do this and then just for a bit more (yea right) we could put down the other floors.. Either way, lots of storms here today and my arthritis is killing me!!! so it will have to wait atleast after today.
Digger and Bubba, yall think like my mama.. lol..
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digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 08, 2009
09:34 AM Post #7039846
| I think both bubba and me love kids , as long as their momma makes them mind . lol |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 08, 2009
01:32 PM Post #7040685
| ☺ |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 08, 2009
04:29 PM Post #7041319
| Come on DR , you know your kids minded . I know mine did , and I never knew a mother that didn't say the same thing . Gosh , my tongue is poking a hole in my cheek LOL . Got O T . |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 08, 2009
07:03 PM Post #7041774
| Hmmmm well... I ripped the carpet and all the tacks (OMG SO MANY) along with the staples off one side of our stairs... Hmmmmmm hubby not home yet.. lol.. Ya'll may read about me in the paper tomorrow.. lol.. |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 08, 2009
07:59 PM Post #7041925
| We'll all stand behind you ,Dirt . That's so you get hit first . He will love it after you get it started . digger |
dahtzu
(Faye) Henderson, NC
(Zone 7b)
September 08, 2009
10:49 PM Post #7042657
| digger...LOL be shame! Lol, lets surround Janice. BEST OF LUCK JANICE! |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 08, 2009
11:56 PM Post #7042955
| Geesh thanks DIGGER!! Besides Hubby would never think of raising a hand to me.. He loves me to much and knows I don't play when it comes to 911 lol... Well he didn't have a heart attack over the stairs even thou he almost slipped down them twice.. They feel different with no carpet, where we could run up and down them before now we are unsure of our footing.. So its a snail pace until we get use to the wood.. Also they are lower than they were before with the carpet and padding.. But we will get use to them, in time..
Thanks Faye.. :-) (a real thanks :-) for standing with me not BEHIND me.. lol..
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HollyAnnS
Dover, PA
(Zone 6b)
September 09, 2009
01:44 AM Post #7043166
| WUVIE, Your floor looks great! I've been checking on your progress since the start. The brown paper finishes I've seen in person remind me of a marbled finish leather. Does that sound about right?
Any floor joints that are not resting on a joist can be fixed by removing the patch and inserting a glued and screwed piece of plywood under the boards extending into the space and replacing the patch with glue and screws. The result is very sturdy with little or no give.
The other thing I've found is using fibered body filler (yes, automotive) is an easy way to patch gouges, seams, and small holes in wood floors that are to be painted or have inlaid linoleum put down. It sets up quickly, stays where you put it, and is very easy to sand to a smooth finish. Removing nail pops is important as you have said and replacing them with a counter sunk deck screw is helpful to cut down on squeaks.
Hope my 2 cents worth helps someone. Holly's Ric |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 09, 2009
11:45 AM Post #7044130
| D R , now you can really get with it , and create . Ditto on the 9-11 . There ain't no hole deep enough to hold a hitting man . lol . Besides , dh likes my cooking . Go girl ,and post pics . digger |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 14, 2009
03:16 PM Post #7063616
| Karen why did you go with a oil based poly? Is there a reason for this? Does it have a longer drying time?
My body is so sore from tearing carpet out, and worked for hours yesterday on the other set of the stairs.. So many staples and nails..
The carpet is off the stairs.. Out of the front room and our HUGE hall.. My house is a total wreck.. Furniture moved out and in, everything is a mess.. lol.. bare floors in part of the house and now there is echos where there wasnt before.. lol.. Still have the big living room we need to remove the carpet..
Anyhow I need to know about the Oil poly??? Headed to Lowes.. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 14, 2009
03:42 PM Post #7063732
| Hi Dirt,
After all this work, I wanted a nice sheen, a good finish, a durable
poly on the floor. I'm not saying you can't get that with any other, but
I have used Cabot many times and really like it.
Hope this helps, if even a little.
KM |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 14, 2009
03:47 PM Post #7063750
| okay thats what I needed to know.. I want a nice sheen/shine to it too.. Can you tell I am freaking out about doing this?? lol.. I sure hope they sale that brand at Lowes.. |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 14, 2009
03:52 PM Post #7063763
| I'll try to field this one.
I believe the oil poly is tougher, at least the exterior Helmsman is. However, having spoken with a lot of carpenters, they think the water-based is every bit as tough for interior homeowner use - and it is a whole lot easier to cleanup your equipment.
For the old farmhouse we are using the Helmsman - but it will be a rental property, so wanted to put down the hardest finish we could. We know that dirt and sand, etc. dragged in on shoes, there will be wear in the high traffic areas, so we will use 5-6 coats there. We have three coats on all the floors now.
At our restaurant, I have cedar picnic tables outside, and every few years I have to sand and refinish. If I use the interior poly, I get a year to 18 months - MAX. With the Helmsman, I'm going on 3 years. Only repair I've had to do was to fix @#$%^& carvings - had to sand and plane - then reapply 3 coats. |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 14, 2009
04:07 PM Post #7063841
| Thanks Bubba... Yes it does help.. I wasn't sure why the use of oil poly.. Since we do have the dogs (one thats a Great Dane) I think I will go with the Oil poly.. Thanks so much..
Oh and for anyone else who is dealing with a husband who was dragging his feet about saying YES do it.. This is what worked for me..
Have DH measure floor space in our case a little over 900 feet, then send hubby to town, have him check prices at the floor store and then check prices at Lowes for the items needed brownbagging. Make sure you make a list before he goes so he will know what to look for at Lowes. Then once home COMPARE PRICES!!!! END of discussion!!! LOL... |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 14, 2009
04:37 PM Post #7063957
| Dirt , I knew you , being a woman , would find a way . Love it . digger |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 14, 2009
04:57 PM Post #7064032
| There are different finishes available, regardless of product: gloss, semi-gloss, and satin. |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX
(Zone 8b)
September 14, 2009
10:16 PM Post #7065220
| Dirt I wish that would work here...
We are building a new house and im wanting to do the floors in the house we are in now its going to take about 3 years on the new house. As we are building it... not having it built... so no new floors would be put in here :( its just live with what we have till the house is finished..
waiting to see pictures of how your doing |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 16, 2009
05:56 PM Post #7071503
| good day ladies and gents. having to use my phone to post on daves since my computer is sitting down my hall. lol. my daughter and I were up til 5 am this morn. working on the floor. its like in the zone u just don't wanna stop. my house reaks from the poly. god I hope that smell goes away soon. lol I think the whole house is high on fumes.. lol uggg. anyhow. the floor looks really good today. even DH said so. lol. so much more to do but want to get it all done and I just want the fumes to go away!!! at first they wasn't so bad but as the night went on it grew worse!!! but the outcome will b worth it. dying to see it when its all finished.. thanks again everyone esp Karen who has answered all my qyestions. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 16, 2009
07:55 PM Post #7072014
| Oh my gosh, Janice, five a.m? Hope you took breaks from the fumes and
ran fans. As soon as it is dry, put another coat of poly on. :-)
Keep in touch, and breathe fresh air, lady. |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 18, 2009
05:30 PM Post #7078689
| lol.. well Wuvie/Karen :-) it was another late night last night.. up until 3:30 working on that floor.. lol.. I want it finshed.. Daughter finally hooked up computer in the first bedroom.. So now can actually post and read Daves better than using my cell phone...
I must say last night went so much faster!!! We were not so UNsure what we were doing, and moved along much faster.. The smell didn't seem to bother me as bad last night, but we also used my husbands BIG SHOP fan,, not the little wimpy one from the bedroom.. Woot nothing like a late night sitting/laying, gluing paper, with the windows open and the AC running full blast.. lol.. We have most of the room done and going back to lowes today for more poly and some glue.. I want it done TODAY.. well that room atleast.. lol.. DH is seeing how much work this is and said earlier he is thinking we need to put down wood floors in the bedrooms, since I am so sore from being up all night and on my knees so much.. BUT I did find one thing that helped me.. DH has one of those little roll chairs, the short kind mechanics use.. I could sit and even lay across it with my hands free to lay the paper on the floor and that took some of the pressure off my knees.. Plus also have knee pads on, I could not do this without them!!! I will have to measure the living room and see what size it is.. but its a pretty good size room.. I just cant wait to get it all done and once its good and dried and have time to set up move all the furniture back in the room.. to see what it looks like.. I can tell you one thing and one thing thats for sure.. Every time I look at that floor I will think of all the hard work that went into it, I will think of the late nights that me and my daughter were up working on it and having nice mother to daughter talks, Karen and how she has answered any and all questions and everyone else in this thread including digger and bubba.. lol :-)
I have been taking pictures during this whole adventure.. lol.. I will post them once I get time to sit at the computer.. :-)
Oh and I just LOVE how the floor looks where it meets up to the fireplace.. Up next to the bricks.. wow!!! |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 18, 2009
07:58 PM Post #7079169
| Good vibes for you and dd . I know it's been hard ,but OH ,THE PERKS . Can't wait to see pics . digger |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 19, 2009
02:11 PM Post #7081467
| Oh my gosh, Janice, I feel bad that you are in aches and pains. I should
have mentioned the knee pads for sure.
Is the room you are working on empty? Wow. What I wouldn't give to have
an empty room. I would put several nice coats on the floor and stand back
to admire it.
I truly hope this turns out well for you. Isn't it addicting??
:-) KM |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 20, 2009
04:06 AM Post #7083362
| lol yea WUvie I started just working in a corner of the room, I knew I was gonna have to move everything out, No way could I work around L shape couch and we have another couch in that room as well.. Okay, Im gonna post a couple of pictures.. I will get some tomorrow with the light coming in the windows.. So the room will be brighter..
PAY NO ATTENTION to the stuff pilled on the bricks.. I was sticking stuff everywhere in order to move things off the floor.. And the clothes basket if filled with photo frames and do dads that sit around the room on the end tables... SO AS I SAID PAY TO ATTENTION TO THE JUNK... lol.. When I went to take the pictures I saw the stuff but couldnt clean it off becaus the floor was still tacky... So oh well..
Just looooooooooooooooook at the shine under the basket.. I guess the basket does show that there is a shine and if you look under the wood stove and curtains you will also see a shine... :-) Still need to measure the room..
The last night (down to our last 10 feet) and I was plumb wore out and just wanted to toss in the towel when things started going wrong ( will write more about that later) Anyhow, I couldnt use that 10 feet this morning when I woke.. It looked horrible so had to redo that same section.. At this point I was in tears.. lol..
now all the base boards need to be lowered and then paint touch up right above them but DH can do that!! lol..
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Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 20, 2009
04:08 AM Post #7083363
| ***Shine baby SHINE*****
Edit to say that is not a white spot on the floor.. ITs a glare from the camera flash because its so darn SHINY!!! lol..
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Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 20, 2009
04:12 AM Post #7083365
| The other corner of the room.. Cant wait to get everything moved back in palce (but am waiting for a couple of days) and DH has got to lower baseboards.. :)
I know its hard to tell, and in the pictures it makes it look as though far away in the corners are all soild brown but isnt true.. lol.. what you see right there in the fore ground of the picture thats what the whole floor looks like..
going to bed its 3am and its been a very long day..
Wuvie when you started putting items back in the room how long did you wait? Did you sit them on anything speical?? I figured we can wait for about 3 days and let it cure..
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digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 20, 2009
09:13 AM Post #7083772
| Right now I'm lurking , and loving , digger |
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
September 20, 2009
12:49 PM Post #7084310
| Wow, that is looking really good! What a large room, I can see why you are worn out, but it must be so gratifying to see how beautiful it is turning out!
Brenda |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 20, 2009
05:11 PM Post #7085082
| Oh, Janice, I'm so proud of you! I love, love, love my floor and do not regret
having done it one bit. I love to clean it, too, using a spongey thing on a stick.
I purchase elastic-edged terry towel cleaning pads, run up and down the hall
and toss it into the washing machine. It is SO much faster than running the
vac.
I am SO excited for you, and glad it turned out nice. Re: furniture return, we
waited one week for heavy furniture, but the lightweight stuff didn't cause
a problem.
One of the things I love most about this floor is that if someone damages a spot,
just patch it with new paper, poly the spot and carry on. Of course, a few coats
of poly is best.
Looking very good, I'm happy for you! Whoo hooo!
Edit to fix gigantic gap. Weird!
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UniQueTreasures
Beaumont, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 20, 2009
08:51 PM Post #7085828
| Oh WOW!!! That is beautiful! I've been trying to figure out what I will do for flooring in my family room/dining room combination. It's all one flowing floor space. This looks like it would work wonderfully. The floor is concrete because this used to be a glorified screened in porch + patio when we moved in. The carpet we put down more than 15 years ago looks awful and I wasn't looking forward to the expense of flooring that room. I also need a new floor in my kitchen, which is just off those other rooms. This may just be the answer I've been looking for.
How much does the "brown bagging" materials + Poly cost? That combined room is 37 X 16. Kitchen is about 12 X 14.
Janet |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 21, 2009
03:26 AM Post #7086588
| Oh thank you Wuvie.. Without you this would not have been possible!!! The living room has 4 coatings of poly... First being when applying then the others were doing the whole floor at once..
Brenda our Living Room is 25ft x 16ft but when you are down on your hands and knees working for hours it felt like it was the size of a football field.. lol..
Our first bedroom (guest room) is 12 x 11ft I really think we could knock it out fast.. Wellllllllll maybe not that fast but a whole lot easier than the living room.. I do love the idea of doing the bedroom because we could just open the windows, place the fan in the window then when done SHUT the door and fingers crossed the rest of the house wouldnt stink...
Problem is the hall.. our Hall is 26ft long and 6 ft wide. and once again the smells would be open to the rest of the house.. :( So once started on I'm gonna have to get it done all the way so it can cure all at once... And the time of the day too.. Thats a tuff one.. With pets, kids and DH and kids in the house I would have to plan it out so that nobody would be going up or down the hall.. Karen you know the one coat has to go on when laying paper, I guess I could do that and then pick a day to block off the hall and the bedrooms.. lol.. sorry I'm thinking outloud.. lol.. trying to figure this out..
Janet for our living room we used 3 buckets of glue ($12.00) I still have some glue in the last bucket.. We used one roll of paper but needed a few feet from another roll so had to purchase a second roll.. I think that was about 12 dollars. The poly I used was $28.00 a can and I used 3 cans. The two cans would have been enough except I need to do the last 10 feet so I just bought another gallon (instead of smaller size) I used it on the 10 feet layering the coats then I poured the last of the gallon on the floor and smoothed it out.. With a special poly spreader they had at lowes I think it was $6.00 Hmmmmm Okay lets figure this up.. lol.. I haven't added it up until now..
Rounding up prices :-)
Glue - $36.00
Paper - $ 22.00
Poly - $84.00
Poly brush$ 6.00
Wood Putty $5.00
------------------------ DRUM ROLL PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :)
$$$$$$$153.00
And I still have a whole roll of that paper left.. I only need about 10 feet of the second roll. So still have that.. Also have some glue left in the last bucket.. I don't think its a lot to spend, Hey I got rid of that darn carpet and thats PRICELESS :----)
Edit to add in Wood putty cost.. :-)
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HollyAnnS
Dover, PA
(Zone 6b)
September 21, 2009
07:57 AM Post #7086872
| Well done on an excellent job, beautiful floor. |
UniQueTreasures
Beaumont, TX
(Zone 8b)
September 21, 2009
10:14 AM Post #7087267
| Thanks for the breakdown on the prices Janice. That is so much cheaper than tile or laminate or wood flooring. And it looks absolutely beautiful.
The floor in the family room/dining room drops down from the rest of the house by about 3-4 inches. That has always been a problem for us. Perhaps doing it this way, we can just brown bag over that edge. :-) I remember years ago someone saying we should try and paint the floor. That never got done and being the easy going person I am, I've just lived with it the way it is, putting carpet on the floor. Having a big lab dog that sheds like there's no tomorrow, I've always hated the carpet. But it was more comfortable and warmer to walk on that just the concrete.
I am going to show your floor to hubby to see if he'd be agreeable to doing this. He's a penny pincher, just like I am, so I think he'll love the price of this type of floor.
Our goal is to get the kitchen remodel finished and do the floor in those rooms. Then we are going to buy a house in the country some place and rent this house out to pay for the new one. This house has been paid for and we've wanted to move for quite a few years.
If it weren't for hunting season, we could have done this several years back. But, as with all things, it's God's timing. This will be an awesome time to get a good deal on a house. Much better than a few years ago, so I'm not complaining. I've already got a Realtor looking into a place for us.
Thanks again Janice and Wuvie for showing me a great way to git 'er done.
Janet
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bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
September 21, 2009
10:18 AM Post #7087280
| Well, now I am considering this for the main floor of our motorhome. We have carpet in there now, which is 13 years old, and we travel with 5 dogs, so I am constantly fretting over (and cleaning) the dang carpet. (Which of course is sort of off-white color). My biggest concerns are a.) pulling up the carpet (seems like a huge job to me...), and b.) one small area in the galley (kitchen) is hardwood which needs to come up as well, but I don't know if there will then be a flat subfloor or if there will be a difference in height where the hard wood and carpet now meet. I definitely like the cost factor, and it really looks beautiful. Any tips for the carpet removal? |
nanaka
Webster, WI
September 21, 2009
10:27 AM Post #7087318
| Well, between Wuvie and Dirt you two have got me totally inspired!
Last March I bought a little trailer in Florida. (Pine Island) It has been a dream of mine for 9 years to do this. It is a 68 one bedroom one bath little piece of heaven. My plan is to spend winters there when I retire. No more WI winters for me! whoo hoo!!! Well, I'm not quite there yet but... working on it.
Anyway it has ugly old stinky carpet too. I have thought all along I would rip it out and tile. BUT, now that I've seen the beautiful results and how much less expensive it would be to brown bag it. I'm thinking that is the way to go!
My question for you experts is; I don't know what's under the carpet. It may be particle board. (and maybe in bad shape) Would it be ok to just seal this and brown bag or would you need to put something else down, like that cement board stuff.
I have taken a leave of absence from my job for the month of Nov. to go down and get the place in shape. But, I don't have saws and stuff to cut and put down another layer of floor.
So experts what do you think? Any experience with brownbagging a sub floor? |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 21, 2009
10:44 AM Post #7087363
| Your carpet is usually put down and the walls , and outside walls are built on top . Built in furniture is also built on top . Step on the edge of carpet where it meets the wood . Can you feel a difference in height ? If there is ,you can remove everything and build up the lower floor to match with glued and screwed plywood . Not really a hard job . You will have to cut away the carpet from the walls that cover it with a utility knife . when you finish replacing the flooring , with your choice of cover , the edges should be covered with trim to hide the gap where the carpet was cut away . My ex was traveling service for Falcon Coach Co in Kansas , in the seventies . Later moved mobile homes nation wide . Then opened a service and repair business for mobile and motor homes with authorized service repair for 18 manufacturers . Needless to say, I was stuck right in there with him on these repairs.
This isn't a hard repair to make , Just put it back in the same order it came off . Good luck , altho you don't really need it . digger |
nanaka
Webster, WI
September 21, 2009
10:53 AM Post #7087390
| Digger Thank You for the info! The walls are put down right on the carpet!!! That is so crazy, and it makes it so much harder to take out! Maybe I will get lucky and the carpet was taken out and replaced once. Still would need to put down plywood or something though... That was my question, so Thanks for answering. I may hire that done, since I will be down there by myself. |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 21, 2009
10:58 AM Post #7087404
| Nanaka , It's a hundred to one that at that age it is plywood . If it isnt ,you will find the flaws when you take the carpet off . (see above) . If the floor is particle board , and in decent shape , you can top it with plywood . Actually , unless it's in bad shape , and you have to replace bad wood ,or particle board , I would top it anyway , when it's repaired . I would also paint it with marine polyurethane. Especially under sinks in kit and bathroom .Just extra insurance . digger |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 21, 2009
11:01 AM Post #7087414
| Nan we are crossposting . digger |
nanaka
Webster, WI
September 21, 2009
11:06 AM Post #7087431
| Yes! Its nice that I have you here answering my questions as I ask them.
I'm sure that would be the best way to do it. I'm always hoping to get by cheap. But, I will be saving a ton by brownbagging instead of tiling.
I may tile the bathroom but I would like to brown bag all the rest. |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 21, 2009
11:28 AM Post #7087503
| Lookin' Gooood, y'all.
If you did not want so much shine, the satin finish would diminish it.
Digger, you are a wealth of information, too - thank you.
We are still working on the "old farmhouse" - sanded the mud-porch and upstairs Saturday. Had to remove all the quarter-round (again) - talk about sore knees and hands - cramp city, but better today. Owner still wants to paint the upstairs floor - I would like to brown-bag it. That way even the cracks between the T&G boards would be covered.
Would show some pictures, but that would be off thread of this one, and I want to see more of Janice's work - lol. |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 21, 2009
11:31 AM Post #7087516
| It's raining here now and floods south of us in Atlanta . I will go down to my old m h in a little while to take pictures of some of the work I've done on it . It's one bd , one bath , 12x40 . I just bought a 14x76 on Texas craigs list . My boy went by and looked at it before I paid for it . I have lots in Tex and am leaving in a week to get it ready to move , then will be working on it this winter . will take pictures . Will have to go to library to have a puter , so won't have long posts . digger |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 21, 2009
11:38 AM Post #7087543
| Yeh , instead of brown bagging , it got around to preparing floor to brown bag . Sorry if it got O T. I get carried away .Get ready for a hamburger party, Bubba, we are working on hopefully Thurs . week . digger |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 21, 2009
11:47 AM Post #7087577
| Janice, did you use Draw Tite on the floor before you applied the paper?
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Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 21, 2009
05:05 PM Post #7088735
| Ummmmmmmmmmm Karen why are you asking me this NOW??? lol. OMG did I forget a step? I thought the drawtight was for areas that might have moisture or to seal off the floor.. LOL... and i know I have read where some have used it on the walls.. The floor I brown bagged was plywood smooth and dry (lol) The rest of the house is concrete the living room is plywood I guess because its the section in the house thats over the basment.. now if I were to do the brownbagging in the basement I would use the drawtight.. No doubt about that.. but I thought the upstairs would be fine without it.. or maybe I am wrong??? lol...
Oh also forgot to figure in the cost of wood putty.. I think it was 4 or 5 dollars..
Janet you are welcome..
As far as the carpent removal, our carpet was held down with strips of carpet tacks..I started in a corner, reached in with a screwdriver and lifted it up.. then just start rolling it back.. if its in a large large section you can cut it in pieces then roll it so its not to heavy to drag out of the house..This is where the OMG I HATE THIS FREAKING CARPET energy comes into play and really helps... lol.. Trust me once you start clearing that NASTY (to me all carpet is nasty, even the new stuff lol) stuff out your energy will kick in.. Its like you become some a super hero and you are fighting the nasty evil carpet villian... It helps is you wear tights and cape while doing this... lol..
I know this sounds crazy.. But I swear my house is cooler with the carpet gone.. My ac is not running full blast all the time, it actually kicks off and on.. I mean we are actually having to turn the ac up because its that nice inside now... Where as before it would run full blast all the time.. But Im sure come winter we will have to wear socks to keep our toes warm.. but I dont care because the evil carpet is GONE gone gone!!!
Oh Digger I dont think of that as being OT... We gotta ask questions and find out what works.. :-)
Thanks again everyone and Bubba I will try to take some more picture, some with better light.. Also cant wait to see what it looks like once the furniture is moved back in...
I still have a lot to do.. My daughters birthday is next month (oct 29th) so I have gotta get everything done before her birthday party.. Still have to sand down the stairs.. I think instead of brownbagging them I am going to sand/stain and poly the tops and then use the kitchen paint color in thath little section under the tops.. Sorry dont know what that little area is called.. lol. BUT the brownbag goes right to the stairs.. that little ledge before heading down the stairs.. and I love how it looks..
Did I miss anything? |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 21, 2009
05:15 PM Post #7088781
| That little section under the tops is called the Riser . the top is the Run digger |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 21, 2009
05:20 PM Post #7088796
| Digger you are one smart lady!!!! Thanks.. Now I know what to call it.. :-) |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 21, 2009
05:26 PM Post #7088828
| I'm not smart , just old and remember what the big boys said . LOL digger |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 21, 2009
08:30 PM Post #7089540
| Aw, Janice, don't let me worry you, I was just curious if you did. Our floors
were in sad, sad shape, so I put Draw Tite on them before the application
to ensure there was a good 'tooth'. Most of our floor was never even painted,
someone just slopped carpet on top of plywood.
:-) Karen |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 21, 2009
09:22 PM Post #7089828
| lol.. Karen you could hear me worring from there???... I was like OMG.. what did I miss?? lol..
I hope this picture is a little better.. More light with the curtains pulled back.. I do love that shine and yea Bubba is right if the shine is not for you (which I totally love) then the poly does come in Satin and I think another choice..
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Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 21, 2009
09:24 PM Post #7089831
| another 
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Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 21, 2009
09:28 PM Post #7089853
| This is a pic looking straight down.. Those dark brown spots were caused by the poly.. You have to be really careful and not drip it on the first coat.. because where you drip it will cause dark spot marks.. I learned that lesson fast.. lol.. I just call them beauty marks.. and besides the couch will cover that spot when we move it back in the room.. Hey if all else fails, cover it with a couch.. lol.. 
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Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 21, 2009
09:35 PM Post #7089891
| And one of my reason's for the new floor.. lol.. Just look at those hairs already on my new floor.. cleaning them is so easy now.. 
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Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 21, 2009
09:40 PM Post #7089916
| Here he is pouting, he wants the carpet back.. lol.. He would rather lay on the step area with the split brick than on the new floor..
Sorry for so many post, but as ya'll know only one picture per post.. :-( So had to post multiply x ..
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Willowwind2
Union, WA
September 21, 2009
10:18 PM Post #7090055
| Just read this whole thread. That is an amazing process and turns out so well. Congratutations to all of you who did this. You are amazing also. |
nanaka
Webster, WI
September 21, 2009
10:45 PM Post #7090178
| Beautiful job Jan!!! I am lovin it ... and thinking I might have to try it! |
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
September 22, 2009
12:28 AM Post #7090511
| I am glad for all the posts and pictures, DR, it really helps give us an idea of how it looks from all angles. And thanks for the advice on the 'beauty spots'! It is looking lovely. |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 22, 2009
01:25 AM Post #7090641
| Thanks... :-)
Also for to say and not sure if its mentioned up above.. But if you do decide to give this a try... Start in a section that is not right in the middle of the floor.. Say a corner, because (as you can see in the picture above) the first corner we started in has more wrinkles.. Then the next day I could see just what we were doing wrong.. I corrected it from then on out.. And had the paper smoooth as a babies bottom when using the paste.. I think I thought if I smooshed it to much to the floor it would ruin the effect instead I had wrinkles there in that one corner.. BUT hey like I said.. If you can't fix it cover it with a couch... lol.. and it just happens to be where the couch sits.. And no I didn't plan that at the time, just glad it worked out that way.. lol...
It seems with this as with anything practice makes perfect (errr better lol) ... Also make sure you book that paper.. My daughter didn't want to book it she said ahh mom what makes the difference since we are glueing it straight to the floor anyway.. lol . so I tried to show her the difference the glue looked after being booked of course she didnt see it... she said Naaaa no difference ITS GLUE MOM... Anyhow I stuck to my guns... but this only comes from having wall paper fall down 20 yrs ago and I didnt even know what the word BOOK meant... So I learned the hard way... lol.. But I blame that on my EX!!!! Ahhh live and learn...
THanks again everyone.. I tell you, I didnt see a light at the end of this tunnel with this one.. but now im sitting in a much better place but im not even half done if we decide to take the BB downt the hall and into the bedrooms...
K tired so over look typos and spelling... lol Ummm should prob toss grammer in there too.. but thats always off ... :-)
Jan~
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bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
September 22, 2009
10:32 AM Post #7091534
| Okay, I'll ask (because I don't know...), what is 'booking' the paper?
Brenda |
jewlybug
Zion, IL
(Zone 5a)
September 22, 2009
01:16 PM Post #7092205
| Ladies, ladies, ladies!!!!! Newbie here and I am SOOOO impressed with this process and your results. Beautiful!!!!! I have been researching this process for quite awhile and I think you have given me the courage to tackle the ugly painted (formerly hot pink carpeted) sub-floor in my spare bedroom upstairs.
Something that I saw on the NGPP (Nat'l Guild of Professional Paperhangers) website is that while a bit more expensive you can use liner paper and tint in the adhesive to make your bagging any color you like. Liner paper is un prepasted wallpaper liner paper. OMG... the possibilities seem endless to me now. LOL. For anyone interested here is that link: http://www.ngppnw.com/005.html
Because I am getting ready to actually do my floor... I did a small test project last nite. Just to see how it looks & feels in real life. I brown bagged a K Swiss gym shoe box. It has the hinge type not seperate lid. I LOVE HOW IT TURNED OUT. It looks like a leather covered box, nice enough to put on my book shelves in the family room ;D.
Thanks for the encouragement. Will let you know how it goes when I actually get it started. Now to decide on a tint... |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 22, 2009
01:27 PM Post #7092240
| Oh, and on the mention of the spots. Janice is right, if you are about to poly
the floor and a drop of poly hits the floor, it will leave a spot. When you roll over
the floor, that spot that dropped will still be seen. So this leaves room for
creative endeavors as well.
What I am trying to say is that if you intentionally place, drop, spray, etc.
you can form designs in the floor instead of allowing the splotches to happen
naturally. You could drizzle your name, shapes, etc.
You could even take certain sections, lay a stencil on top of the paper and
spray it with something - say, spray poly. When you apply, the sprayed section
will not accept the poly as well as the rest of the floor. Wa-la. Permanent
design in your floor.
SO many ideas, so little time. Sigh.
I'm so proud of all of you for trying this. Isn't it fun?
KM |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX
(Zone 8b)
September 22, 2009
01:54 PM Post #7092341
| GREAT JOB Jan ...!!!!! |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 22, 2009
01:59 PM Post #7092352
| Brenda~ I will try and explain what booking is.. When you coat the back of the paper you then fold in in half paste side to paste side.. so the glue is touching each side (fold it in half like a BOOK) Let it sit for about 7-10 minutes and then when you open the piece the glue will be activated. I think it helps the glue soak into the paper where needed and helps the paper relax before putting it on the wall or in this case floor.. lol..
I told my daughter nobody is going to believe what the floors are done with.. So I am going to take a piece of brown paper, spray our hands with PAM (to mark the paper) make our handprints on the paper and then I am going to frame that. So when anyone ask and doesn't believe we can show them the orginal color of the paper with our hand prints.. Handprints because we touched, tore,glued and rubbed everypiece of that paper on that floor... :-)
My husband already asked me if there was another type of paper or color we could use, I know of the Rose paper... I even thought of trying to use both together with a design of Rose paper in the center of the room.. Both those colors are my colors... LOVE BROWN AND RED so I would be happy with both.. I have a website somewhere if I can find it where you can order paper with color and they have info and patterns you can use on the walls... Which after I get the floors and stairs where they need to be then I am going to do the wall in my bedroom.. Thats how this all started.. I started searching for ideas of that wall then ran across Karens thread here and said OMG I can get rid of my carpet.. lol.. And the rest as they say is History.. lol
Jewlybug, I went to the link but couldn't find any finished project pictures.. If there is some there could you point me in the right direction please.. :-)
Janice◘
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Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 22, 2009
02:16 PM Post #7092401
| OHHHHHHHHHHHH and OMG I almost forgot a very important tip...
You have to use OIL based POLY... I found this out the hard way.. When I bought the poly I bought a can of oil but after that first night, and that horrible smell.. lol.. I knew I was going to need poly for the stairs so the next day at Lowes I bought Water based poly.. The name of it is ZINSSER BULLS EYE Polyurethane (gloss water base) At about 3am and down to my last 10-15 feet on the floor I pasted my paper to the floor only to realize that I only had a couple of drops of the Oil based poly left in the can.. I didn't want the floor to dry becuase then it wouldnt have that marbled look.. So I used the water based poly on that last 10 feet.. Cleaned up and went to bed only to wake the next morning to see that the section was still white. (the poly was white while wet) The poly is a crystal clear and I could see where I had got it on the wood next to where I applied it to the paper and that was crystal clear.. Just only on thath paper was it white, scratchy and not shiny at all.. ALso it wasn't marbled at all... Now I dont know if it was becuase of this one brand or if its all water poly... I wanted to cry cry cry, it had to be done over.. Back to Lowes I go for more oil poly.. Oh and I didnt figure in that jug of poly above becuase I didn't use it on the floor just in that one little section.. Because I had bought it for the stairs anyway not the living room floors..
Thanks denimangle... I am looking forward to seeing other peeps and their brownbag floors.. I am so thankful Karen posted this and has walked me through the steps and been there incase I had a quick question.. Thanks again for your kind comment.. :-)
Janice◘
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Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 22, 2009
02:47 PM Post #7092507
| OK, Where did you buy the Draw-Tite?
I checked their website and the shipping from Glendale, CA would make it VERY expensive if you did not live in the LA,CA basin. |
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
September 22, 2009
02:56 PM Post #7092534
| Thanks for the clarification on 'booking', DR. Now I remember that from long ago wallpapering. |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 22, 2009
03:09 PM Post #7092573
| Bubba I would think Lowes or home depot has it.. But since I didn't do that step I really don't know.. lol.. |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 22, 2009
03:14 PM Post #7092583
| On the website there was no mention of "dealers" or "where to buy" - that's why I asked.
I will check tonight. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
September 22, 2009
04:24 PM Post #7092804
| While I haven't updated in some time, this is sort of a leftover of
a webpage I started on the walls. I started a floor page but did not
finish it. I may get my butt in gear and do so.
In case anyone wants to read a bit more about the wall procedure:
(This is the page with instructions)
http://www.wuvie.net/brownbagwalls2.htm
If the text is a mess, you can hold down the CTRL button on your keyboard
and roll the wheel of your mouse up and down to increase or decrease the
text size.
KM
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Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 22, 2009
04:47 PM Post #7092900
| OMG wuvie is that your page??? I have looked at that page many times... Is that your wall? Small world.. lol.
As per Karens website :-)
Draw-Tite Clear No Run Primer/Sealer. A product from Sherwin Williams. Runs a bit high, but remember, it is both a penetrating
sealer and a primer, no need for more products. Runs about $24.50 online, but when the shipping is added, $35.11 per can. A trip to
Broken Arrow / Tulsa, Oklahoma (closest for us) eliminates the shipping charge, but costs more per can. A bit of bean counting reveals it
is actually cheaper to order online. A bit of a bother to find at times, available online. Consider the cost of fuel, your time and you'll
likely order it online. Doing a large room or many projects? Consider a five gallon
bucket, you'll save on shipping as well as the cost per gallon, and won't be running the roads to buy more.
Bubba it looks like you may have to check Sherman Williams..
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Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 22, 2009
04:53 PM Post #7092933
| We have many SW stores near us - thanks. |
jewlybug
Zion, IL
(Zone 5a)
September 22, 2009
04:57 PM Post #7092945
| Janice
They didn't really have any finished project pictures. There was really only the one pic showing the demo piece the man was working one with the little boy. They mentioned in the text portion of that page about tinting the adhesive and using the liner paper.
I googled liner paper and found this link. http://www.wallliner.com/darkcolorwallliner.html Check out the "dark color" link. The Burgundy one is making me think...hmmmm Kitchen walls ;D
Oh... a side note that I thought of when I read about the water-based poly... I think the poly was white because the paper underneath was still wet. When using water-based poly... whatever is underneath has to be dry. Otherwise its kinda like how white craft glue stays white until it drys or turns white again when it gets wet. Just my thought on that.
Anyway... since ur hubby was asking about colors... the tinting or maybe the colored liner paper might be of interest ;D |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 22, 2009
05:29 PM Post #7093066
| You welcome Bubba.. I just happened to find that info listed on Karens site..
Jewleybug you might be right about the paper still being wet.. But even 20 hours later when I redid that area it still looked the same.. Yea I think that if you were to put it over dry paper then it would shine, but if you apply it to dry paper you dont get the marbled look.. I would think it would work as long as the floor was totally dry.. if you let the whole thing dry and then poly the whole floor in the water based poly or oil based it wont have the look I was going for :-( Trust me I would love to use the water based!! lol... I found a picture on the net a couple of months ago and their floor was bb but it was all blonde.. I couldn't understand why their floor didnt look like Karens floor then thats when I read she said to apply the poly while still wet.. Im pretty sure the other picture I saw they let the whole floor dry and then added the poly.. grrr I can't seem to find that picture now but omg found this picture...
This is not my picture or my floor but sure wish it was... lol.. Look at that blue..
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Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 22, 2009
05:31 PM Post #7093071
| And found this picture of Using the Rose paper on that same website..
So pretty... I think I might go with this color in my room.. I wonder how big those rolls of paper are and the cost..
Here is a link to the site where I found the above pictures.. You can see how pretty it is on the floors but I do see they offer to sale you instructions.. :-P
http://paperbagfloor.com/Walls_and_Ceilings.html
Did I mention I love that BLUE!!!!
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lindawin58
Ewing, NE
September 22, 2009
08:52 PM Post #7093799
| Dirt I wonder if that can be used on blown on ceilings that are reallly bumpeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Thats what I have and hate it. Linda |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 22, 2009
08:59 PM Post #7093825
| Linda , you can scrape that stuff off with a flat blade like they use for edging the sidewalk or a paint scraper . Use a mask and keep the vacuum close . Not hard .digger |
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
September 23, 2009
01:28 AM Post #7094679
| Could be asbestos popcorn ceiling... be careful. |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 23, 2009
08:35 AM Post #7095155
| You're right and I don't remember what year they stopped letting asbestos be in paint and building material . Don't know how old the house is , or when the popcorn was put in . Best check that out b4 taking down . |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
September 25, 2009
04:59 PM Post #7104046
| linda make sure you check before you scrape, and if they are not asbestos (which I sure HOPE they are not) then like digger said.. Its very easy to scrape it off.. I have seen it done before.. Wuvie (Karen) did her ceiling and she would be the one to give you suggestions and ideas for your's if you choose to do it.. If you go to the website she posted http://www.wuvie.net/brownbagwalls2.htm you can see before and after pictures.. I have so much more to Brownbag.. (hall and bedrooms) At this point I'm trying to work the energy up for it.. lol. BUT I sure do love it in the living room and can't wait to see all the rest done!!!
Anyone ever seen the movie Big Daddy? The whole time while on the floor gluing paper to the floor, a scene kept coming to mind from that movie.. Where the little boy spilled glue on the floor and he covered it up with paper.. lol.. And then the teacher was complaining about it.. And there I was an adult doing my whole floor.. If only that teacher had let the little boy glue the whole floor they would have had a really cool floor.. lol..
Anyone else working on their floors right now? Bubba?
denimangle~Hang in there and keep working on him.. My husband really likes the floor.. Do you have carpet now? if not then I would do a small section and let him see how great it looks... 3 yrs is a long time to be unhappy while waiting on your new house to be built.. I know there was no way in heck could I stand our carpet another 3 yrs... Right now our bedroom and my youngest still have carpet in them.. I may not get to her room before winter.. Or even our room for that matter.. which is fine.. Just need to get the first bedroom and the hall done and then I will be happy happy.. :-)
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Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 25, 2009
05:17 PM Post #7104092
| Well, we did sand the upstairs and the back porch last Saturday.
I know I'm sanding across the boards, not with the grain, but we needed to try to level the board under my heel and make the rest of that area as consistant as possible. This first pass was with 36 grit. Switched to 24 when sanding with the grain, then back to 36 and finally to 60. Could have gone to 100, but since this floor will be painted, 60 was smooth enough.
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Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 25, 2009
05:19 PM Post #7104098
| Here are a couple of the porch.
Beginning the process:
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Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 25, 2009
05:21 PM Post #7104102
| After sanding with the grain.
This floor will be painted with marine grade paint.
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digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
September 25, 2009
09:29 PM Post #7104976
| Wish I had time to go see that house . Be a great learning experience . |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
September 30, 2009
05:43 PM Post #7121138
| Same view after a coat of primer.
When we get a bit more done, I'll send you the link to where we have MANY pictures, Digger.
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digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
October 07, 2009
01:37 PM Post #7144773
| Sure enjoyed seeing that new floor at Bubbas and the buffalo was GOOD . digger |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
October 07, 2009
01:42 PM Post #7144784
| I put a couple of pictures on Texas Gardening of the group that evening. DG'ers at Bubba's |
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
October 07, 2009
01:58 PM Post #7144825
| Yikes! I'm at library , gonna have to invest in a wireless puter . digger |
Dirt_Road
Janice~ Gulf Coast, MS
(Zone 9a)
October 07, 2009
04:20 PM Post #7145309
| Oh no!!! The other laptop didnt work? Oh yea you gonna have to.. Because we miss you here young lady... :-) |
dahtzu
(Faye) Henderson, NC
(Zone 7b)
October 08, 2009
10:10 AM Post #7147736
| Yep digger, I just got a Lap Top too and had to get a router so I could go wireless. Just learning to use it, not use to my finger being the mouse. Also the scrolling is different. But think i'm going to love it once " it masters me" lol
Have a great day all. |
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
October 08, 2009
11:10 AM Post #7147889
| Dahtzu... you can always get a wireless mouse for your laptop, that's what I use because I can't deal with the little pad on the laptop. (Sorry for being off topic... just thought that might help!).
Brenda |
dahtzu
(Faye) Henderson, NC
(Zone 7b)
October 08, 2009
12:33 PM Post #7148114
| Thank you Brenda, I may have to do that.
Faye |
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)
October 08, 2009
01:35 PM Post #7148324
| I got myself a wireless mouse...to go with my birthday gift of a new laptop...like you, I am still learning the ropes of it and the Vista program...give me back XP! Jo |
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX
October 08, 2009
01:54 PM Post #7148381
| Be sure to buy some stock in battery companies with the wireless mice & keyboards.
I use a USB mouse on all of my computers - I don't do well with either the touchpad or the eraserhead.
As for connecting wireless - check with your cellphone carrier. Bet they have a PC-Card that will connect with their network.
Now, back to floors. Any new BB pictures, anyone. |
denimangle
Oakwood (Butler,TX), TX
(Zone 8b)
October 08, 2009
03:26 PM Post #7148638
| I got a new laptop also still not use to the setup the keyboard is just a tad bit off & I had to get a mouse I didnt go with the wireless tho .
having to use 2 hands to scroll etc was driving me nuts and hurting my hands ...
Not to say anything about VISTA ...But it SUCKS...
its wireless ready but we are still on dialup out here in the woods ... We were told if we cut down a few tress we could get wireless ... |
scarediecat
Ashland City, TN
October 09, 2009
11:06 PM Post #7153585
| Oh...I just found this thread and just in time. I just took my carpet up in my bedroom and was trying to figure out what to do next.
One question...do you put down a layer of the brown bag paper and then put down another layer on top of the first layer? If you do put down more than one layer do you poly inbetween each layer?
Thanks!! |
katiebear
mulege
Mexico
October 10, 2009
11:26 AM Post #7154633
| Start with Draw-Tite, after it dries put paper with Golden Harvest wallpaper paste in torn pieces, overplapping, I put two to threee layers of paper, overlapping, Seal with another coat of Draw-Tite. When that is dry put several coats of varnish on it.
Check Wuvie's website or Google brown bagging the walls.
katie |
scarediecat
Ashland City, TN
October 10, 2009
12:59 PM Post #7154885
| Great! That's what I need...simple step by step directions. Thanks Katie |
scarediecat
Ashland City, TN
October 12, 2009
09:14 AM Post #7160690
| Wuvie do you mind if I share your photo (with your name for your completed floor) with the home decorating forum? It's called unusual or weird decorating ideas. Yours would fit under the unusual...mine would fit under weird...lol
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katiebear
mulege
Mexico
October 12, 2009
11:04 AM Post #7161040
| Yesterday I worked all day on my bedroom and completed one big wall and half of another, Today I'm so tired I could die but I'm happy. I have a few small areas to repair or and then the bedroom will be done. I started it lst year around Thanksgiving so you can imagine how thrilled I am.
Tropical storm Patricia is headed straight for Cabo San Lucas, due to hit tomorrow. They predict it will then move west and die out in the Pacific but they made the same prediction about Hurricane Jimene which destroyed large parts of our town in early Sept.
katie |
bsavage
Dolores, CO
(Zone 5b)
October 12, 2009
11:08 AM Post #7161057
| Stay safe, Katiebear... hope that storm misses your area. |
scarediecat
Ashland City, TN
October 12, 2009
09:37 PM Post #7163189
| Sorry Wuvie...I missed your link above on your directions. Everyone is asking to see all these great examples. I can't keep up with giving out this link! Thanks everyone for sharing...your photos are wonderful.
|
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
October 13, 2009
10:17 PM Post #7166688
| Hello, sorry I'm a bit late. Yes, by all means, please feel free to use the pic.
:-)
So wonderful to see so many trying this fun technique! Scardie, I don't
mind being listed in 'weird' at all, in fact, I consider it a compliment.
:-) KM |
scarediecat
Ashland City, TN
October 14, 2009
04:14 PM Post #7169016
| Someone above mentioned dying the carpet. My hubby begged me to leave the living room carpet for him so I decided to dye it to cover a couple of stains I couldn't get out. I have posted a photo of how that is coming along. I am using my steam cleaner to lay the dye. I have only put the dye on. It has dried but I am going to go back over it with clean water after I have finished the whole floor. I am going from tan to wine colored. The photo makes it look like the tan is coming through but when you look at it you can't see the tan at all. I also did a black border. I'm not done but I love how it is coming out. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
|
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)
October 16, 2009
08:56 AM Post #7174975
| WOW,Ive been lurking and reading ,I wish I had a floor to do,well guess I could do some walls !!! GREAT STUFF this is soo cool,great jobs everyone .i love doin it yourself LOL |
lindawin58
Ewing, NE
October 16, 2009
09:28 AM Post #7175094
| Scare, what kind of tie do u use? Linda |
scarediecat
Ashland City, TN
October 16, 2009
06:49 PM Post #7177018
| I used the dye you get at WalMart called...Rit...
I'm going to finish the rest of the carpet this weekend and let it dry and set for a couple of days. Shampoo it. Let it sit and dry for two more days and then redye it...just to make sure it is covered good. So far I love it and so does hubby (and that's saying a lot for hubby to like something like that). |
lindawin58
Ewing, NE
October 18, 2009
12:50 PM Post #7182516
| Scare is this a full room carpet or area rug? Is there a larger size of rit, or you just using the small boxes? Linda |
marti001
Somerset, KY
(Zone 6b)
October 18, 2009
11:14 PM Post #7184659
| I saw a house in Idaho that the livingroom floor was done with paper bags. They collected bags from everywhere, every color and tore them into different size pieces and shapes. They than glued them down and use a polyurethane coating to seal and shine it. It looked great, Somewhere I have pictures of it and always said if I get the chance, I was going to do a floor the same way. Mary |
scicciarella
Mona in Metcalfe, ON
(Zone 5a)
October 19, 2009
09:11 AM Post #7185574
| I am very impressed my DH would never go for something like that he stresses to much hahahah when I do projects |
scarediecat
Ashland City, TN
October 19, 2009
10:30 AM Post #7185831
| lindawin58 - this is a full room carpet - no rug. I only used two bottles of the wine color and two packages of the black (black for the band around the edge of the carpet). But after a few shampooings (if that's a word...lol) I plan on redoing it using the same amount of dye for the second session.
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digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
October 22, 2009
02:28 PM Post #7197514
| Dye looks great to me . Wonder what I could do with dark green carpet . Might try your method , I have a steam shampooer . digger |
scarediecat
Ashland City, TN
October 23, 2009
09:30 AM Post #7200026
| Dark green...hummmm...that would be difficult to change unless you wanna go brown. Be careful with an expensive shampooer...mine is a very small bissel - not very expensive. I can afford to "confuse it":) Mine runs clean now so I haven't hurt it in any way. |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
October 27, 2009
11:36 AM Post #7213555
| Digger, you could always swipe bleach on the rug, but then you might end up
with something that looks like it belongs on a frog. LOL. |
Texasgal77
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)
November 04, 2009
02:23 AM Post #7239732
| Scarediecat, WOW, that looks great! I'm impressed! |
scarediecat
Ashland City, TN
November 11, 2009
11:19 AM Post #7263240
| Thanks Tex...I shampooed it the other day and it seemed to blend it in better. One thing I found out though is you have to wash the container out well and even maybe run some water through the machine before shampooing another carpet to make sure there is no dye left in it to get on a different carpet. |
Texasgal77
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)
November 16, 2009
10:02 PM Post #7280968
| You did a great job! I need new carpet, so changing the color wouldn't help me.
Any other ideas for refreshing old carpet? In the past I have "brushed it with a rough grill cleaner, but that really takes the energy which at the moment I don't have any. HAHA!
|
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
November 17, 2009
06:39 PM Post #7283870
| Texas gal, if you get desperate, like I did...
Using a strong bleach and water solution, simply dump it on the carpet. This is provided
you do not have carpet which will bleach. We have colorfast berber, which acts as though
it doesn't even know I've used bleach. I pour a gallon of water with heavy bleach right on
the dirty spot, walk away and then come back in about five minutes with the carpet shampooer,
going over the same spot over and over to make certain all the water is up.
Until hubby agrees to get rid of the carpet, this is what I am going to do, so if he does
not like occasional wet socks, he will have to bend. LOL!
|
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA
December 04, 2009
01:16 PM Post #7334893
| Love your ideas Wuvie . Bought another mobile home a few weeks back . Pulled out the carpet , filled the holes in strandboard , polyed it . looks great . digger |
Texasgal77
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)
December 05, 2009
06:28 PM Post #7339280
| I may have to try that! I have a carpet shampooer. I'm still recooperating from Thanksgiving, and helping move the plants in. Maybe in January! Thanks! |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
December 05, 2009
07:37 PM Post #7339558
| Oh, just in time for you, Texasgal...I have a new way to do it. Using a one gallon
garden sprayer and a good bleach solution, I just spray and suck it up with the
shampooer at the same time, not allowing the water to soak in like before. I found
that when I did that, the carpet looked fine at first, but then the bottom dirt sort of
came to the top, making it look ugly again.
By using the sprayer, the carpet is not nearly as wet.
But now I'm thinking since the carpet is clean but doesn't LOOK clean, I'm considering dye.
Stay tuned...LOL. |
Texasgal77
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)
December 05, 2009
07:51 PM Post #7339608
| Thanks! I was thinking maybe a tea stain would work...making it just a little darker than it is now. Who knows... |
WUVIE
Hulbert, OK
(Zone 7a)
December 06, 2009
10:56 PM Post #7343355
| That, or come up with the winning lottery numbers. Ha! |
