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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
02:40 PM Post #5948159
| Downloaded some photos of groups of Ti I have planted...if anyone (DAVE?) has any names for them...I would love to know them...
This first is Pink Diamond (I am using the name I know it by if I have it...many have tons of names...)
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
02:41 PM Post #5948165
| New Guinea Black (I am saving seeds from these to grow out...maybe do some crosses if it will ever stop raining!) 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
02:42 PM Post #5948170
| I don't know this one...LOVE the pink petioles! 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
02:42 PM Post #5948171
| This one is either Tsunami or Earthquake...not sure...really wierd! 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
02:43 PM Post #5948174
| Red Rooster Tail 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
02:44 PM Post #5948180
| This is a mini...very sweet and colorful and will take a lot of sun... 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
02:45 PM Post #5948184
| I 'think' this is Hawaiian Feather...not sure.
Took photos to remind me what the groups will look like after I prune them and they grow back...they badly need it!!! And I need the color in more places...
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
02:46 PM Post #5948187
| This is a mini...very dark foliage. Menehune? 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
02:47 PM Post #5948193
| Not sure about the name of this one...VERY broad leaves...lower ones are almost black. 
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
December 31, 2008
02:49 PM Post #5948199
| Beautiful Ti's - they have become a favorite of mine in the past year. I have a small selection. I think the last one you posted maybe Black Magic?
I have a couple of minis too. Love them!! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
03:04 PM Post #5948249
| There are SO many possibilities with Ti!!! I love combining them and making nice contrasting 'arrangements'... Bob likes to plant them out in straight rows like soldiers at attention...funny how the right brain/left brain thing works...
When I cut some of them back (the really common ones) I strip all the leaves off and use them as mulch... The leaves make GREAT mulch... The good ones I make more of. Hope to get some new ones with crosses... |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
December 31, 2008
03:23 PM Post #5948320
| Oh good suggestion about the mulch. |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
December 31, 2008
04:07 PM Post #5948470
| I love cordylines! Australian growers do quite a bit of breeding over here as well. Have you checked out the new International Cordyline Society website? It has a great photo gallery of cultivars. http://www.cordyline.org/
This one is New Guinea Fan. It grows in an unusual fan shape. I've got a tray of seedlings growing, it'll be interesting to see if they all retain the fan shape. Ann
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
December 31, 2008
04:08 PM Post #5948479
| That is quite stunning!! |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
December 31, 2008
04:17 PM Post #5948514
| Thanks Dutchlady! Here's the front of my house. A bit over the top but I love the color especially in the rainforest where it's so overwhelmingly green. 
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
December 31, 2008
04:24 PM Post #5948536
| How wonderfully lush looking that is!! The color is wonderful in those surroundings.
I had to look up where you were though... |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
December 31, 2008
04:24 PM Post #5948538
| I like to mass them. So cheap and easy to do. 
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
December 31, 2008
04:29 PM Post #5948557
| Don't worry most Australians would have to look it up too :). El Arish is a tiny WW1 settlement town sandwiched between two World Heritage areas (Australian Wet Tropics and Great Barrier Reef) |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
04:58 PM Post #5948669
| OOOOO I love that fan!!!! Gorgeous.
Will check out their website...thanks.
So...you are up north of Cairns? We live in similar places!!!!
Say...I have an old bed of Ti that has been neglected for a while...I need to 'goose' it as it lacks a lot of nutrition and I need to cut many of them back...but there's a fair bit of moss on the stems. Should I cut them, wipe off the moss and then fertilize...or just leave the moss there? What would you do. Lots of rain lately!!!
Carol |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
December 31, 2008
05:08 PM Post #5948723
| Happy New Year; Hau'oli Makakiki Hou! 
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
December 31, 2008
05:24 PM Post #5948791
| Here is my 'bronze baby' dwarf ti 
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
December 31, 2008
05:25 PM Post #5948798
| Another dwarf Ti. I put the measuring tape there to show the length of the leaves. 
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
December 31, 2008
05:27 PM Post #5948808
| I don't know what this one is called but I love its stripey foliage. 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
05:33 PM Post #5948843
| Really nice minis...I love the dark ones...Hetty. Maybe we can trade in the spring???
Dave...you have any thoughts on taking off the moss?
OMGodess...I see sun!!!
Carol |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
December 31, 2008
05:42 PM Post #5948876
| Carol, I'm actually about two hours south of Cairns. It's similar to the Daintree bur we have the dubious honor of being the wettest area in Australia, more rain than Cairns or the Daintree. I'm no great expert but I'd probably fertilize first, wait a bit and then cut back. More vigor means quicker shooting and less chance of the ends rotting or dying back. Not sure about the moss issue.
Dutchlady love your minis.
Metrosideros, is that a cordyline endemic to Hawaii? We've got a similar one here.
Ann |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
December 31, 2008
05:49 PM Post #5948899
| Happy to trade anytime, Carol!! |
Texasgal77
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)
December 31, 2008
06:49 PM Post #5949119
| Love the Ti's! Mine are camped out in the makeshift greenhouse. A couple around the corner have some in their front yard, and even after the snow they seem to be doing fine! ?????!
Happy New Year; Hau'oli Makakiki Hou to everyone also!
Great pics, Carol! Love 'em!
Jeanne |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
06:58 PM Post #5949153
| Pogo. - I just fertilized.
The green ti was used by the Hawaiians for everything from food to clothing. It was the root the bad boys on Pitcairn used to brew the moonshine (I think it is called O'okole hau). Not sure of that spelling but it is very graphic...
I know Cairns, and I know up to Port Townsend (?) from Brisbane. Nice country. Didn't know it was so wet!
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bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)
December 31, 2008
07:07 PM Post #5949192
| All right you guys! You have my attention! Ha! ha! As if I weren't hooked on enough plants! Going tropical in the Oklahoma backyard. Yes. I know. Impossible you say? Well I am giving it the Okie try! Ha! ha. Now. Tell me. What is a cordyline and what is a Ti? I think those pictures are beautiful and looks like something I must have! So. Educate me. Please! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
December 31, 2008
07:23 PM Post #5949255
| Cordyline fruticosa is the bot. name. 'Ti' is, I think, Hawaiian. The original is the solid green big leafed thing Dave posted...the others in my post are crosses. None of the colored ones come true to seed...and the seedlings produce some really interesting variations... There is a species called Cordyline australis...which is different - will post pictures of some of those too...they aren't as varied. I believe they are a very primitive genus - related to the Dracaena. They will take a light freeze and come back...but slowly... All of them thrive in the sun except some of the leaves with white and or yellow which prefer shade/bright indirect light. At last count, friends of mine had over 400 different leaf shapes/colors/growth patterns etc. They are SO trouble free and really easy to start from a piece of the cane... You could have one specific plant and it might have 3-6 (or more) names, depending on the family you get it from, what youy call the one you found growing by the side of the road, what someone calls it in a book...NOTHING is standardized by the names. For instance, this one is called
Shubertii
Hawaiian Flag
Turkey Tail
And probably other names too. This one has a thick cane and the leaves are HUGE...it is a BIG Ti...while other are quite small and lots inbetween...
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bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)
December 31, 2008
07:35 PM Post #5949292
| The pictures you posted are BEAUTIFUL! I have a couple of dracaenas as houseplants. One was my mothers I inherited when she died. Its leaves are solid green. I believe this one is a very common houseplant. The other I received from someone. Has two stalks. The leaves are green with white stripes. Can't figure out why it gets brown spots on the leaves though.
Can you tell me how I would begin to shop for plants like those you posted? |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
December 31, 2008
07:38 PM Post #5949303
| Carol, Townsville is only 2 1/2 hrs south of us but is in a rain shadow so alot less rain. Heres a little something that I cut and pasted about our climate:
CLIMATE A feature of the wet tropics of north-east Queensland is a high rainfall that is concentrated within a four-month period. Compared with tropical rainforests elsewhere in the world, the wetter parts of the north-east Queensland region lie at the 'wet' to 'extreme wet' end of the hydrological spectrum. Widespread overland run-off, even on steep slopes, is a common phenomenon that is uncharacteristic of other wet tropical rainforests in the world. It results from the high rainfall intensity combined with saturated soil profiles. Mean annual rainfall ranges from 4000mm near the coast to 1200mm at the western extremity, over 60% of which falls in summer (December-March). It is much higher on the mountain ranges with, for example, 9140mm recorded on the summit of Mt Bellenden Ker for the period 1972-1979 (Walsh, 1980; Bonnell et al., 1983). Mean daily temperatures range from a maximum of 31°C to a minimum of 23°C on the coast, and are about 5°C lower in winter. The tablelands and uplands are cooler, with mean daily temperatures ranging from a maximum of 28°C to a minimum of 17°C in summer and from 22°C to 9°C in winter. Coastal humidity averages 78% in summer but often reaches into the high nineties (DASETT, 1987).
Needless to say, when the sun comes out here I feel like a vampire mole!!! Ann |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
December 31, 2008
10:09 PM Post #5949953
| bubba1 - as Carol said, you can start these pretty easily from a piece of the cane. They sell them in Hawaii in the souvenir shops.
I suggest you post a 'wanted' in the trade forum for starters!! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 01, 2009
12:59 AM Post #5950504
| bubba...In the spring, I would be happy to send you some 'starters'...your job will be to learn how they grow. The brown spots could be due to chemicals in your water... Ti do NOT tolerate flouride...it will sink them very quickly. The best to do is to let your water sit out and airing before using it...let the chemicals flash off.
Remind me in the Spring...
Carol |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 01, 2009
11:18 AM Post #5951386
| Ironically, Walmart carries them here in North Central Texas. About 36" and very healthy.
Rather ordinary type but it is a start. |
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)
January 01, 2009
01:26 PM Post #5951986
| My walmart isn't that sophisticated. The only time of year it has plants is in spring. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 01, 2009
01:51 PM Post #5952104
| Kind of an oxymoron..."sophisticated Walmart". |
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)
January 01, 2009
01:57 PM Post #5952138
| Moran is right. Ha! ha! ha! I don't even go there unless I must. I was so surprised to discover they carried plant lights! Now. If they just carried the light fixture to put it in! Ha! ha! |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 01, 2009
02:13 PM Post #5952214
| This week was a first visit to Wallyworld in a very, very longtime. Went with DD to pick up 1/2 lights. Happened that the lights and the tropicals were in the same area. |
mjsponies
Deland, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 01, 2009
03:01 PM Post #5952438
| OK...You Ti folks...a friend of mine gave me some Ti Plant seeds. How do you plant these ? Do they require any special attention? Preparation?
Thanks so much..and Thanks Bubba1 for pointing me over here...I had posted this on the Propagation forum some time ago!! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 01, 2009
03:42 PM Post #5952604
| mjs - The seeds are easy...they should be ripe and fresh. I rub them in a sieve to take the pulp off (the pulp has a chemical in it that inhibits germination) and scatter the seeds on a loose mix, cover slightly and keep damp and warm. Easy.
Carol |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 01, 2009
04:48 PM Post #5952841
| Thanks for the seive info, Carol. Have been trying to get rid of the chaff on seeds I have saved. A little rough on the hands. |
bubba1
Woodward, OK
(Zone 6a)
January 01, 2009
05:04 PM Post #5952897
| Can you knick the seeds like you do with hibiscus seeds? Do they need to be soaked? |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 01, 2009
06:03 PM Post #5953155
| The plain green Ti, Cordyline fruticosa, is a Hawaiian introduction. Ti is a Polynesian name, Hawaiian is Ki or La'i.
Someone who provides Ti to others: Kumulau (Carol).
A place where Ti grows: Wahi ulu o ke ki. (Carol's place.)
It is good luck to plant Ti! |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 01, 2009
06:22 PM Post #5953238
| Thank you, Dave. Had to copy and paste that to MS Word. |
mjsponies
Deland, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 01, 2009
07:48 PM Post #5953629
| Aloha...You could send some of that rain this way...we could use it...
mj |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 01, 2009
07:52 PM Post #5953654
| bubba, soaking seed with peroxide helps a lot of different seed. |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 01, 2009
08:29 PM Post #5953878
| E ka 'ohu kolo e ho'oua i Deland, Florida! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 01, 2009
09:07 PM Post #5954135
| Started rubbing the moss off some canes...I am going to cut a mess of them back. Under the moss, roots!!! These plants are pretty easy to grow!!!!
Dave...your Hawaiian is surpassed only by your knowledge about plants (Oh, yeah, and you ARE good looking!).
When I 'do' the seeds, I soak them after rubbing as much coating off. Then, with a lot of water, i swirl the water to pour off the stuff that has the bits of coating...like panning for gold (or how they told us it was done). Soaking them in Hydrogen P. is a good idea, too. Many seeds like the Ti are 'built' for birds to pass them thru their system, I think.
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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 01, 2009
09:19 PM Post #5954203
| Carol, you're makin' me blush! |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
January 01, 2009
09:49 PM Post #5954346
| And I think she's enjoying it immensely!! LOLOL!!! I know I am!! |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 01, 2009
10:22 PM Post #5954509
| Ti are definately a symbol of good luck here in the Marshalls. I have several, but none as gorgeous as the one's at Carol's place. I like to put the tall sword shaped leaves near the broader wide leaves and weave in some croton for bright contrast. The "good luck" comes by having a ti plant near every door...luck for visitors and for residents.
My luck must be holding, the coconut palm guys just chopped the 6 trees I have in my yard, (they are making their usual trip around the island), and even though the fronds and coconuts were flying all over the street, I only lost a couple of small branches off of my other plants as collateral damage. When you hear large coconuts hitting the street from 60 ft. up it sounds like you are under attack from heavy artillery! But they did a great job, and a few small mishaps is a small price to pay for the security of not having those babies hanging over our heads!
Happy New Year everyone!
Yokwe,
Shari |
mjsponies
Deland, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 01, 2009
10:39 PM Post #5954578
| Metro...thank you...hopefully "dancin in the rain" tomorrow...I think that might be like the "rain turtle" my D's SO draws in the sand...who knows...maybe it does work!!!!
Soooo what, is there a pic I missed somewhere of Metro ...;-)...anyway, I will try the Ti plant seeds and see what happens. She did tell me she got them from a local Big Box store..(ha...surprised the things set seed !)..and see what I may or may not end up with.
mj |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 01, 2009
10:43 PM Post #5954596
| Shari! Don't Worry! It is common knowledge that coconuts only fall on the heads of bad people. |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
January 01, 2009
10:55 PM Post #5954654
| Mj, here's a pic of Dave. There's more floating around but I found this one first.
http://www.davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=566843...
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Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 01, 2009
11:01 PM Post #5954688
| Aaaah, if only that were true! I can't begin to count all the plants that have been wiped out by falling coconuts, an extremely large bunch fell on our lanai cover a couple of months ago and we had to replace all the ribbing. It is just too scary having all the little munchkins walking to school through my intersection knowing that at any moment disaster could strike. We all breathe so much easier after the chopping! These guys earn their pay, that's for sure!
But I am taking it as a very good omen that my yard was the first one done in the new year! They didn't work yesterday, so I managed to be first in '09. Cool! Hopefully that will add to my "wish power" for everyone! Ha Ha.
MJ, when you plant your seeds...think to yourself "I am a bird, I am a bird"...maybe you can fool them into thinking that they have been "processed"! Good luck with your ti!
Here is a "Rumrunner" hib wanting to send Happy greetings!
Yokwe,,
Shari
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mjsponies
Deland, FL
(Zone 9a)
January 01, 2009
11:04 PM Post #5954709
| haha...How do you "wolf whistle" on a keyboard!!!
I am a bird, I am a bird, I am a bird...
mj |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
January 01, 2009
11:06 PM Post #5954713
| LOL!!
Great hibiscus Shari!! |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 01, 2009
11:11 PM Post #5954756
| Thanks Pepper, that was me soon after I was found in a coma and diagnosed with Diabetes Type 1.
Here I am about a year later, gettin' back in tune!
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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
January 01, 2009
11:13 PM Post #5954768
| That's the pic I was looking for but couldn't remember where it was. lol. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
12:18 AM Post #5955044
| And for those of you who don't know...he actually has a beautiful smile!!
The custom here s to plant a green ti at the entrance to your house/property ... they will keep out the bad spirits!!
More rain...ah...just when we thought it was safe to go out... |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
January 02, 2009
01:54 AM Post #5955323
| Well, I found this thread so inspiring that on New Year's Day I potted up cordylines rather than following my natural inclination to crack open a bottle of champers and watch the Dexter marathon on TV. Ann 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
02:47 AM Post #5955386
| Beautiful leaf, Ann. Thanks! |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 02, 2009
11:18 AM Post #5956144
| Much as I am not a fan of Walmart, looks like I will be making another trip today to buy all of the Ti they have. I already have 2 small plants but that is not near enough to cover all of my doors and gates. Only problem---here they have to be taken in in the winter or they will freeze. Anyone know if they are root hardy and if so will they just be little tykes all summer by having to start over?
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Braveheartsmom
Kihei, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
12:07 PM Post #5956334
| What a beautiful collection of Ti you have Carol...I have a rather dull green one by one of the doors - now I know why it was planted there! I always figured that if times get really hard I could at least make myself a skirt...
A warm Aloha to all of our new friends.
Jenn |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 02, 2009
12:26 PM Post #5956444
| The original grass skirt... |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
02:13 PM Post #5956871
| How hard are your freezes, Cristi? They may survive with alot of mulch...light freezes will toast the plant but the roots survive. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 02, 2009
04:16 PM Post #5957357
| In the twenties fairly often. Worst of it is the jumping back and forth. Yesterday the bird bath was frozen when we got up. By noon we were in shirt sleeves. So hot last night didn't get below 65, today 75, tonight 50, tomorrow 80 and high of forty on Sunday. Keeps everything messed up. Will sometimes put out new growth and then we have another hard freeze in the low 20's. Then back to 70. Bananas and EE's die almost to the soil but come back in early spring. I do mulch my beds pretty heavily. Our ground never freezes. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
04:32 PM Post #5957444
| If the ground never freezes, I would give them a try! |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
January 02, 2009
06:18 PM Post #5957849
| Thanks Carol. That one is called Opal Hue.
Some varieties seem to be more cold tolerant than others. I'm not sure which but will ask around. I do know that in some varieties the white and cream bits of leaves have less chlorophyll and the cells expand and contract quickly in the cold, sometimes leaving you with brown burnt looking tips in winter.
This is another one of my favorites. I believe it comes from your side of the pond.
Waihee Rainbow
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Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
06:41 PM Post #5957950
| Ann - thank you for the explanation of my brown tips! I'm never sure why, but quite a few of mine get very brownish just on the tips of the leaves. We never get cold here, but the lack of chlorophyll is an explanation that goes along with variance in water and light levels.
Yokwe,
Shari |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 02, 2009
07:58 PM Post #5958283
| Tip burn (brown leaf tips) is often from a lack of potassium. |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
January 02, 2009
08:33 PM Post #5958418
| You guys are more uniformly warm than we are in our tropical and subtropical climates. I know in bananas and heliconias nutrient uptake can be slow in winter and can cause tip burn and yellowing but I'm a novice when it comes to soil chemistry. And I'd kill to have rich volcanic Hawaiian soil!!!!!!! Carolyn Clarke ( big Aussie cord lady) did a trip over there last year and felt that you guys get much better winter color from your rich soils.
This is Tartan, think it was originally imported from Thailand. People went nuts for it.
Ann
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 02, 2009
08:59 PM Post #5958546
| Very lovely - but it looks like some critter went even more nuts for it (chomp chomp).
I can see that here is a whole new addiction in the making if I let it... |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
January 02, 2009
09:06 PM Post #5958581
| Dutchlady, I'm afraid I'm not one for spraying. In spring the grasshoppers go a bit nuts :(
Ann |
Bignonia
Atenas
Costa Rica
January 02, 2009
09:18 PM Post #5958629
| Feliz Año Nuevo, for all the garden lovers. I have only one Cordyline in my garden at this moment no pictures availables. Cordyline here is called Caña India roja= Red Indian Cane. Some people call it Dracena roja (Dracaena); which is not taxonomicly correct.
In Costa Rica for good luck, on December 31 st, we give a as a present a plant called Santa Lucía= Ageratum conyzoides L. It is a common plant in higher altituds so I live at 700 m.s.n.m. My wish in this forum for this year is to learn more from all the knowledge that you are sharing and to enjoy the passion for plants.
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
09:46 PM Post #5958759
| Ann, that Ti is really beautiful...
This one is Miss Andrea and she came out of a tissue culture. Now, the neat thing about this Cordyline is that she sports into all kinds of colors...and the next photo (while really bad) is a photo of a red sport that is just stunning as all of the leaves are red with a few streaks of darker red.
Bignonia...Bien Venido!!! Have fun... I am stuck inside with the rain and others with snow...so we are playing!!!
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 02, 2009
09:48 PM Post #5958769
| Bignonia you are very welcome here and we love to hear about plants and growing methods in many different areas. Please post pictures when you can!! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
09:49 PM Post #5958773
| Here is Miss Andreas sport... 
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 02, 2009
09:50 PM Post #5958780
| Wow imagine that. How fun! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
09:50 PM Post #5958782
| and this one is Bolero...I think. Shortish fat leaves , not a rampant grower. 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
09:53 PM Post #5958789
| I think this is called either Maui Rose or Kauai Rose...'think' is operative here!!
Hetty...one of the FUN things about the cordylines is that they are so crossed and recrossed, they tend to sport fairly easily...guess some of the crosses are not that stable. 
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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
January 02, 2009
09:53 PM Post #5958794
| Carol, you getting rained on? We will get rain this weekend which will freeze...again, and a dusting of snow on top of that. By the end of the week we should be back into the high 40s again. lol. Since it's January I'm really wishing I could just reach thru the screen and grab some of the plants and stick them outside and have them thrive. LOL |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
09:56 PM Post #5958810
| This one i use a lot for backgrounds to plantings...the 'kahili' - or area covered by leaves - is very long...almost 5-6' so if you don't let them get too tall, you can have almost a solid wall behind other plantings. The name is Hawaiian Boy or Cemetary Red (because it thrives in full sun and always looks great so it is often planted in the old cemetaries...in fact, mine came from a very very old cemetary in Onomea). 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
09:58 PM Post #5958819
| Yeah...we complain while you guys really have the awful stuff!!! We have had over 2 feet of rain since Christmas!!!
This is a tiny Ti called Baby Doll (I think)...
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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
January 02, 2009
10:00 PM Post #5958829
| Well, 2ft of rain is plenty to complain about!! LOL |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
10:01 PM Post #5958836
| HAHA..this is one I got one day, driving down one of the main streets and I saw it growing in a yard. So...as is typical here and done all the time...I stopped and asked for a cutting and drove away with a car full of canes, aloes and some hibiscus!! Everyone is really generous and giving... I need to get in there and weed!! They are in too much shade and have become much lighter colored in the lower light...I am going to move them out into more light and see if the color won't come up...they were growing in full sun when I saw them! 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 02, 2009
10:02 PM Post #5958849
| Here is another New Guinea Black...dunno why they all have the same names... This one is really tall...maybe 6'. 
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mpabbott1
(Mary) Poway, CA
(Zone 10a)
January 02, 2009
10:29 PM Post #5958999
| Do they tolerate a light frost now and again? Love the different colors. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 03, 2009
12:55 AM Post #5959573
| Before my trip to the island this last February I had no idea what my little "houseplant" was. In fact many of the plants seen in the tropical areas of the nurseries are a far cry from how they should really look. With five months of cold weather I don't expect they will get that big without the comfort of a large covered area. My favorite is the "rose" ti.
Carol, do you sell these as well or are they just for your own enjoyment? Wish I were there would be glad to help you weed.
PK |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 03, 2009
01:11 AM Post #5959620
| Nah...I used to sell them but am getting out of commerce and becoming just a glutton for my own enjoyment-with hoyas as well.!!! There is NOTHING more carefree and gorgeous except perhaps Crotons...but I find the Cordylines much more diverse and fun with all their sporting and changes... |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 03, 2009
01:31 AM Post #5959691
| You have earned working for your own pleasure. I highly recommend it.
PK |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 03, 2009
07:14 AM Post #5959924
| I need that Maui/Kauai Rose!! |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 03, 2009
08:02 AM Post #5959966
| I like the New Guinea dark..it's cool. I don't see Ti's for sale here all that much. I did get a new one from Caldwells last summer, it is doing pretty good. Some colorful ti's and crotons would be a nice addition in the front garden.
I thought about you yesterday Carol, I did my first seaweed spray of the year. Needed to get a head start on the bugs.
LouC, why don't you guys sell and move to the Heights! We'll have a grand time!
Ann, I love your garden, my style..over the top! (I smiled when you said those familiar words!)
Miss Shari, how ya doing? I bet your daughter really misses you in Denver, and those other people along the way before you get to Denver miss you too!
I spent all day gardening yesterday. Repotting, trimming, and planting seeds. Like LouC said, it is pretty warm, even the buggary mosquitos are out. My Solandra Maxima bloomed for the first time..woo hoo. All the brugs are in bloom too.
Carol...I have an idea...alohahoyti lol. Is there a good internet place to buy ti's?
Rj |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 03, 2009
08:30 AM Post #5960005
| The Ti on the right was rescued by my brother at a garage sale. It was fried, too much sun.
Speaking of sale, Wayne and I were shopping last weekend and found a couple of Tiki totems. He must have noticed my wistful look ( a little drool perhaps) but a resisted impulse buy. I was working away in the garden when Wayne popped through the gate carrying the Totem! So nice of him. I wasted no time putting it the first of many spots in the garden. It's a PolyResin.
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 03, 2009
09:56 AM Post #5960171
| Oh I love the Tiki totems. I bougth one a few years ago handmade out of sabal palm, but it's starting to rot from the bottom in spite of the fact that I placed it on a tile. It's now leaning against the fence.
The poly resin would seem to be a good option. It looks great there RJ. |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 03, 2009
10:36 AM Post #5960273
| Thanks, I do want one carved from wood though... |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
January 03, 2009
12:35 PM Post #5960817
| Boy I really loving all this ti talk! Carol, your New Guinea Black is gorgeous. They don't do very well here in the lowlands, seem happier with a bit of altitude. We call that sport of Miss Andrea Pink Champion and CTC Pink. I just picked up a CTC Chocolate (another Miss Andrea sport) but so far it's not too interesting. There's also another sport of her called Rainbow Red.
RJ , thanks for the compliment. Our garden didn't used to be so Lairy. But after a bad catagory 5 we decided to brighten things up.
Earlier in the thread you guys talked about green Ti keeping evil spirits away. Is there any spiritual significance to the Cemetery Red? I know frangipani is planted in Hawaiian cemeteries as well and supposedly represents rebirth.
This one is probably familiar to you guys, it's Peter Buck. Photos don't do it justice as it gets an almost metallic sheen to it in the sun. One of my absolute favorites!
Ann
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 03, 2009
04:02 PM Post #5961393
| There is a plumeria called Cemetary Yellow because the flower lasts so long!!!
I think there IS a website called TiTime - they are from here on the Big Island. Their stuff IS expensive but correctly named. I am always up for trades and such... I tried looking up the website...will call the owners.
The NG Black makes a wonderful focal point!!! I am thinking of planting an area with it in the BG and some Willis Gold in front... OH...I shall have to post that photo!!!
A fellow here who introduced Miss Andrea to Hawaii has named all the sports after his daughters... See, everyplace has a personal name for the Ti. On another island it might be called Auntie Sally because that's where they found it!!! |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 03, 2009
04:32 PM Post #5961509
| Hiya Randy!!!! I like "AlohaHoytiToyti" Can you think of anything more completely opposite than hoiti-toyti to describe our wonderful comfortable friend at Chez Noel?
I'm not sure which I enjoyed more Carol, all the variety in the ti's at your place, or the brom's. And I do love my crotons...I have a great deal of variety in the crotons - but not much in the reds/pinks like you get with the ti's.
Prospero Ano Nuevo Bignonia! Would love to see a pic of the "present" plant.
Okay, here is a question for you all. I have a "Dragon Tree" out front, which for those of you who don't know is like the epitome of "me". I collect dragons so... Anyway, in descriptions of the dragon tree it is called a cordyline - but not a ti. So my dumb question is are all cord's ti's or is it that all ti's are cords but not viceversa? Hetty?? Ann? Carol??
Dave?? This is a quesiton in honor of miss PK - she of the "red flower", "Yellow flower"... see darlin, I call all my variegated leafy thingys "variegated leafy thingy". Ha Ha.
Yokwe all,
Shari |
Bignonia
Atenas
Costa Rica
January 03, 2009
04:44 PM Post #5961548
| Saludos Islandshari. I used to live in Heliotrope Street 472b.!!
A picture of our good luck plant
http://www.hear.org/starr/plants/images/image/?q=040209-0125
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Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 03, 2009
04:49 PM Post #5961569
| I'm on the corner of Heliotrope and Poinsettia...457B! Last time we talked you didn't tell me we would have been neighbors!!!
I told you about my friend Maria finding her bothers and her father in Costa Rica after 37 years, didn't I???
What is the significance of that pretty plant? Why is it considered lucky??
Yokwe,
Shari |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 03, 2009
05:04 PM Post #5961642
| The Dragon Tree is Dracaena draco. Many botanists have placed Dracaenas in the Pleomele Genus. Some Dracaenas have been placed in the Cordyline Genus.
Ti's are all considered Cordylines, mostly Cordyline fruticosa. A cultivar of Cordyline australis, 'Purple Towers' has leaves like a Ti plant, it forms a large suckering bush.
Dracaena type plants from Pacific Islands are now placed in Pleomele. Dracaena type plants from Australia and New Zealand are placed in Cordyline.
Dracaena type plants from the Old World are still placed in Dracaena.
Dracaena draco is the plant to the left of the picture.
Aloha, Dave
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 03, 2009
05:28 PM Post #5961773
| I just love this forum; there is an answer to any question you care to ask.
Thanks Dave, I have learned something today. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 03, 2009
06:36 PM Post #5962091
| Yes, Dave, thank you! Boy, did I have that wrong! It is all so confusing, I think I may stick with Christi - "red flower", "yellow flower". I always want to know everything I can about my plants, but some answers just leave one with more questions! It is a constant quest...and I guess that is why we love it. If it were easy, there would be no challenge and we would all get bored!
Here's to diversity!!!
Thanks again,
Shari |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 03, 2009
07:01 PM Post #5962191
| In Nature, diversity equals stability! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 03, 2009
07:12 PM Post #5962244
| To the left in the picture? the one that looks like an agave?
...Boy...I have been all confused!!! I thought Cordylines were in the Dracena family...t'other way around. one I understand they change or the devils try to make me think I am crazy!!! Who, me???
Carol...
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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 03, 2009
07:30 PM Post #5962337
| Both Cordyline and Dracaena are in the Agave Family. They were both formerly in the Lily Family.
To add to the confusion, Agave was formerly placed in the Amaryllis Family. Now Amaryllis in in the Lily Family. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 03, 2009
08:29 PM Post #5962558
| Oh Lordy Mercy! Shari never would you want to be like PK. She loves every single plant, tropical or no, but could never tell anyone what they are. I have worked my tail off these last three days as we have had spring weather...by tomorrow night it will be cold, cold again. Mike keeps saying...you shouldn't be doing that. Your going to hurt your back. He's right but I'm tired of sitting around thinking of everything that needs to be done...outside. The inside no longer calls my name. I have probably wasted a lot of time and energy but I am working on propagating anything that must be pruned. In that we have already had a dozen or more days below freezing, lots of things needed pruning...if it had any green, I soaked in Root Tone and then stuck in rich potting soil. The weather man is talking in the back ground...72 right now, 39 by morning. uggggh! Ha! He's saying freezing precipitation by Monday.
In my fantasy life: Princess Kilikina
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Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 03, 2009
08:48 PM Post #5962620
| Oh, I don't know...I think there are much worse things to be than you my dear!
Another bit of confusion...Amaryllis vs. Crinim vs. Hippeastrum. One day a plant is in this family, then the next day it is in the other... So much fun! NOT!!!
JB can't use his arm, so I have been the "muscle" in the family for a while now. Just got all the Christmas decorations down, and packed up...haven't got the energy to put it all away though. Another day. My back was so sore last night I wanted someone to shoot me and put me out of my misery. He feels bad, so I try not to complain to loudly.
Gotta go watch the game...
Yokwe,
Shari |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 03, 2009
09:03 PM Post #5962681
| Crinums haven't changed.
Amaryllis is a monotypic Genus from South Africa (Amaryllis belladonna,the Resurrection Lily).
Hippeastrum species are from Central and South America. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 03, 2009
09:09 PM Post #5962702
| Dave, last winter when Mitch was preparing to move to Oklahoma he gave me plants than a girl deserves. 6 of them are crinum lilies. They did absolutely nothing this spring and summer. A couple of them are showing just the slightest of green today. I would like to move them but afraid I would put off blooming for yet again another year. Any suggestions?
Princess Kilikina aka Christi |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 03, 2009
10:13 PM Post #5962926
| Hi Christi, this should be the time of year that Crinums are safe to move. If you can move them to a place with a deep humus rich soil they will feel at home.
Most Crinums bloom in spring or summer. Are your plants deciduous this time of year? |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 03, 2009
10:22 PM Post #5962961
| Yes, they are only inches above soil level. Everything is covered in native red oak leaves from my own trees. We have a blower that also is a vacuum and shreds as it picks up, has made really good compost this year. Last year we had a truck load of soil brought in that is a mix of lava sand, Texas green sand, and native hardwood mulch. We also added mushroom compost and dried molasses. It was like Jack and the Beanstalk for many of our plants.
Christi |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 03, 2009
10:26 PM Post #5962983
| Ann...Yes, I love Peter Buck too...they look so 'rich' in the bright sun!!!!
Carol |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 04, 2009
06:22 AM Post #5963968
| My Crinums bloom year round. |
Bignonia
Atenas
Costa Rica
January 04, 2009
12:40 PM Post #5964749
| Hi Islandshari, finally I found the story behing the luck plant. The more common version is that you have to give this flower to another person during the 31 st of December. So if you keep it in your billfold then you will have money the whole year. This tradition is almost not known nowadays, About Maria hopefully she could find her family. We had guests from Kwajalein, Bob Fore; Sherry Olson and her exhusband. The doors of my house will be always open to those Kwaj people. Next time maybe Maria can contact me when he comes to visit Costa Rica. I still waiting for Shigeko and Nate (Now in Hawaii) to come to visit us |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 04, 2009
03:57 PM Post #5965514
| That old addage that one man's treasure is another man's junk...your good luck plant, ageratum, is one of the worst weeds here!!! It lives thru ANYthing and continues to invade everything!!! Smells good when you pull it out, tho"
Carol |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 04, 2009
04:09 PM Post #5965576
| Ageratum conyzoides does provide a good treatment for skin rashes. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 04, 2009
04:14 PM Post #5965602
| Really? How do you 'fix it'? Just rub it on? |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 04, 2009
04:42 PM Post #5965725
| Grind the leaves into a poultice. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 04, 2009
05:48 PM Post #5966011
| Well, my goodness...something that invasive being a good luck charm and ensuring money in people's wallets can't be a BAD thing!!!! And it cures skin rashes to boot! Sounds like a people-friendly kind of thing to me...ha ha. Thanks for that info Dave, I like to keep that sort of helpful information in a notebook. The medicinal values of native plants is always fascinating to me.
Carol, look what you've started...your beautiful ti's have taken us all over the world with tons of info ...How did I stay away from this place for so long?!?!?!
Yokwe,
Shari |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 04, 2009
05:59 PM Post #5966064
| And a fun trip it was.
I wonder if most of the Ti's have about the same hardiness. The two I have seem to do well during the winter here. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 04, 2009
06:06 PM Post #5966095
| I don't know about Texas, but around here, those puppies just don't give up. I have seen them flooded, bone dry, sitting in a pot with next to no soil, in a pot 5 sizes to big, in the ground (we are talking coral here)...but for the best LOOKING ti's, well now that is another story. I was wondering if some of the tinier ones are as hardy as the ones out here. Do you have any idea, Carol? Randy, I don't think there is anything you can't grow. You must just hypnotize your plants into believing that they are in whatever zone they prefer! I was going to tell you that I can easily send you a wooden tiki...but the ones from Micronesia are not the totem pole type tiki's that most people think of. More just heads with larger or smaller piles of hair...some even have myths carved into the hairdo! I'll try to send you a picture...
Yokwe,
Shari |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 04, 2009
06:32 PM Post #5966178
| Yes, at least that one pink Ti, takes some fierce mistreating. It too has been in next to nothing soil, and each time I pulled it out of that spot, a new one grew back.
LOL, Wayne thinks the same thing about the hypnotizing. He always quips...that will die during the winter...and I say..oh you mean this one here in the corner...so now he gives me plants to test. I did loose a jade vine a couple of weeks ago, but still have 3 others that are doing okay.
Those Tikis sound similar to some of the African ones I have. |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 04, 2009
06:44 PM Post #5966245
| The wild Hawaiian Ti survives at up to 4,000 ft. and handles mild frosts alright. I have seen it cultivated at over 5,000 ft. |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 04, 2009
08:06 PM Post #5966607
| Good, think I will focus on adding more Ti's to the garden this year. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 05, 2009
01:46 PM Post #5969363
| Hey...and just to confuse things...this is totally OT...check out this website. It is the first thing I open in the morning...
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html and it changes every day!
Carol
Thanks, Dave...good to know about the ageratum. It is noxious around here...AND sold in Home Depot!!! Go figger!!
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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 05, 2009
06:15 PM Post #5970407
| Out of this World website Carol!
I remember seeing strawberry guava for sale in home depot. Plants considered to be noxious weeds by the USDA are illegal to sell, trade, or transport in the US. This is not enforced in Hawai'i, and Hawai'i has no legislation to keep people from spreading known noxious weeds around the State. Funny coincidence for the endangered species capitol of the Planet! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 05, 2009
06:34 PM Post #5970461
| You have that straight!!! There is NO notice given publicly as to the invasive stuff we suffer... The frogs, the little fire ants...half the population have never heard of them!!! They worry more about what WE send to the mainland than what goes in...and this, of course, is because...
...don't get me started!!!! |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 05, 2009
10:15 PM Post #5971374
| Oh i love that site! Many of the pictures are ones that we have downloaded for wall paper...my DH is in the right business for this sort of thing...ha ha.
I understand perfectly Carol...it is soooooo agravating!
Randy, I would love to see pics of the African masks you have...I don't remember them. I am working on pics of our masks.
Yokwe,
Shari |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 06, 2009
11:34 AM Post #5972934
| Shari, how is JB's shoulder? |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 06, 2009
01:37 PM Post #5973511
| This is perhaps one of the most beautiful Ti... Willi'is Gold. The leaves make a lovely indoor 'flower' arrangement too! 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 06, 2009
01:53 PM Post #5973589
| That is Absolutely Stunning... |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
January 06, 2009
05:20 PM Post #5974535
| I love Willy's Gold as well. Such a beautiful array of colors and great growth habit. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 06, 2009
05:40 PM Post #5974609
| Carol, that really is gorgeous. No wonder you walk your property every morning...I bet you find things you didn't even know you had while you are soaking in all the beauty and life surrounding you.
Christi - JB is coming along nicely. The therapy is ahead of schedule and he gets to take his brace off in just a couple more weeks. They are pretty sure he will have 100% use of his arm back which amazes them considering the damage that was done. It will be nice to get that second arm included in my hugs again. I miss it!
Yokwe,
Shari |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 06, 2009
05:41 PM Post #5974615
| It's the first thing you want to do in the morning, is go wander and get lost viewing the botanicals. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 06, 2009
05:48 PM Post #5974645
| Well I do wander...but can hardly get lost...ha ha ha.
Hey friends...check this out for me if you get a chance. I suddenly thought - Heck I should ask my friends instead of strangers...you'll see what I mean...
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/940413/ |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 22, 2009
06:19 PM Post #6037783
| Thankyou Carol very much for being my first guest blogger at the Houston Chronicle for me at Jungle Heights! This will be published tomorrow Friday 23rd, sneak preview until then.
Ti For Two
http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=rj... |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 22, 2009
06:39 PM Post #6037856
| applause!! |
Braveheartsmom
Kihei, HI
(Zone 11)
January 22, 2009
08:33 PM Post #6038264
| Lovely article with beautiful pictures - well done! |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
January 22, 2009
09:15 PM Post #6038419
| Thanks Rjudd, the link with Carol & Bob is well done! They are the best of neighbors!
They are akamai with plants, and ingenious with growing and utilizing many rare, unusual, and useful species. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 22, 2009
09:24 PM Post #6038458
| For some reason, I couldn't comment on the Chron. so I will post here...Carol! What a great job! So many beautiful pictures, and such good info. Love the first picture of the two of you. Don't mean to gush, but I really loved it!
Yokwe,
Shari |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 22, 2009
10:32 PM Post #6038715
| WOW - blush blush blush... thank goodness for difused light when my picture is taken!!!
OH..Randy...I think that mystery Black Ti is called Cobra. No worries...can be called anything...
Carol |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 22, 2009
11:59 PM Post #6038990
| Thankyou..that's why it's on sneak peak...I can change ...will update the Cobra.
Metrosideros I quite agree, their place is truly one of Magic! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 23, 2009
01:24 AM Post #6039215
| ...and for special friends, I can levitate...and have been known to walk on water...
Gosh you all...it is just a bunch of plants...!!!! and I glow with your praise and know that it has been worth it!! Sometimes I tell the mosquitos who keep me company I wonder if it will ever make a difference... and hearing your schmaltz makes me know it does!!!
:))) Alohaaaaa
Working with Randy, I found this fantastic site... http://www.cordyline.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=v...
Can you see me drooling?
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LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
January 23, 2009
09:59 AM Post #6039912
| Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Before meeting you wonderful people I didn't even know what a Ti plant was. Not common in my part of the world. All the big box stores carry at least one variety and two pitiful little plants I have are just hanging on. The part about the fluoride in the water gives me a clue about why a lot of my tropicals are distressed. In my next life I am going to live on the islands. Let's see, stay with Carol for awhile, then Jen, then Shari and start all over. Won't that be fun?!
Seriously, I appreciate the knowledge that all of you so freely share. It was 75 here yesterday and supposed to be 35 by tonight. A very challenging climate.
LouC |
robcorreia
San Diego, CA
(Zone 10b)
January 23, 2009
01:47 PM Post #6040821
| Greetings! I was never a fan of cordylines UNTIL I came accross this thread! WOW!!! I NEED to get some for my garden!!! Where do I start? ! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 23, 2009
02:07 PM Post #6040892
| Yes...Ti are a beautiful addition to anything!!! There ARE lots of gorgeous cultivars on the Australian site...and there are 'comparables' in Hawaii...but not all. Some of their cultivars are SO unique.
I am trying to find someone here who wants to take over a little business I started selling Ti. I really don't want to do it... I will let everyone know if I find someone.
Carol
David...you know anyone? |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
January 23, 2009
02:13 PM Post #6040916
| I'll do it LOL |
Braveheartsmom
Kihei, HI
(Zone 11)
January 24, 2009
12:30 PM Post #6044832
| Now you have me started on Ti's! I don't take much notice of the usual ones we have round here, but some of the ones you have posted are gorgeous! I haven't seen any like that for sale, now I am off on another quest. Oh Lord! |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
January 24, 2009
03:37 PM Post #6045713
| I'm wanting some too! LOL. But I'm not gonna look for them. I will end up buying some then trying to figure out where I can store it for the winter. LOL |
Texasgal77
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 25, 2009
03:27 AM Post #6047915
| Me too! Those are gorgeous! |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
January 25, 2009
06:55 PM Post #6050377
| Well Carol, looks like you've done it again! Now on top of all your Hoya fans, you have created Ti monsters! Ha Ha. Keep us posted on someone taking over the business...I would love to get some of those cultivars.
Yokwe,
Shari |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
January 26, 2009
08:09 PM Post #6054957
| Carol, In Qld there are quite a few obsessive collectors and breeders but you guys are way ahead of us. IMO (and you know what they say about opinions lol) We breed more for color and for ability to cope in more difficult/marginal climates like Brisbane and Sydney. While the Hawaiians truly excel at leaf form (your junos are to die for) and minis. Your conditions are so good for cords that you get better color and more lush growth. I've seen Willy's Gold grown "hard" and the colors are bleached, the leaves don't have that sexy slightly undulating droop, nothing like how they grow in optimal conditions.
I'm bidding on a new Hawaiian right now. HeeHee. 'Akala Ahu. Do you know it? These are three I got a few weeks ago. Do you know these guys? More Hawaiians! Ann
Wailua Purple
Ke'anae Purple
Dr. Frank Brown
Here's a little Aussie. Twister.
ps I read the Blog article, very nice! Is there a place where in the future we could find all the blog articles together?
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 26, 2009
09:09 PM Post #6055223
| Well...I went on the International Cord. Soc. and it blew me away. Some of your long narrow leafed cvs. are terrific.
I would be delighted to send you seeds if we could get them thru APHIS...I crossed some New Guinea Blacks with some colors... Also crossed Cobra with a bright pink...
let me know...you might get nothing and you might get something cool. I like Twister.
I have found someone to do the business. He has a nursery already and would be keen.
Carol |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
January 27, 2009
06:47 AM Post #6056728
| Carol, I'm pretty sure I can get cord seed in. In return I can send you seed from one of those nifty narrow leaf cords that I happen to have seed on.
I'm glad you found a person to take over the Ti side of your business. I have to admit after heliconias I find cords a breeze!!!
Flag Dancer
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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
January 27, 2009
05:26 PM Post #6058873
| Re the blogs..I keep links here at DG in my blog here
http://davesgarden.com/community/blogs/t/rjuddharrison/10741...
And...I think all of them are listed here at the News Paper..I haven't been posting them very long so don't have it all down quite right.
http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?plckPersonaPage=Pe...
If your looking for more Ti articles, You'll have to wait until Carol writes part II !
Rj |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
January 27, 2009
06:53 PM Post #6059219
| Thanks RJ :) Ann |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
January 29, 2009
02:11 AM Post #6065605
| WOW...Flag Dancer is BEAUTIFUL. She looks like one of my Feathers but with a winder interesting leaves... THAT is lovely. OH YES...seeds would be fun to grow out from one of those gorgeous ones!!!! Sigh.
Why don't you send me your addy in a Dmail and I will send you some when they ripen and give you names of Mother...
Carol |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
February 08, 2009
11:27 AM Post #6109626
| I just found this big bloom on my Black Magic Ti 
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jlp222
Hammond, LA
(Zone 8b)
February 27, 2009
11:37 PM Post #6200497
| Carol, look at you! I finally get a face to put with the name. I would love to go to Hawaii. My hubby and I are planning a vacation at the end of May. Maybe we could go then! |
extranjera
Mérida
Mexico
(Zone 11)
February 28, 2009
12:16 AM Post #6200655
| Cordyline's - Ti's - are common here as well. I see many of the same few in people's yards but occasionally I see one that is a little different. I just got this one yesterday. I'll take some pictures of the more commonly seen types and post them, perhaps they are not as common elsewhere. 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
February 28, 2009
01:23 AM Post #6200921
| That is a really nice one, extranjera. !!!!! |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
February 28, 2009
06:36 AM Post #6201200
| The Botanical Gardens here just got a very nice collection. |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
February 28, 2009
09:59 PM Post #6204413
| I scored a couple of Ti's today on our little nursery tour with
Patty(Phuges) Rita (Placentaria) Jerry (Texasbigleaves) and Christi (LouC)
It was a whirl wind shopping trip...after a week of 80F, we had high wind and cool temps today..kept blowing our plants of the wagons..(so you know they weren't small ones) |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
February 28, 2009
10:20 PM Post #6204469
| I just got a new one... It is Red Sister that you all have on the mainland, but with a yellow edge around the leaf...will take a photo tomorrow... |
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)
February 28, 2009
10:21 PM Post #6204473
| I can see I am going to have to get busy with the camera and get some shots of the locals> 
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
February 28, 2009
10:52 PM Post #6204550
| YUM. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
February 28, 2009
11:27 PM Post #6204745
| Just got home a bit ago. Discussion about the correct pronunciation of the "Ti" plant.
Help please.
Christi |
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)
March 01, 2009
06:49 AM Post #6205427
| I read that you say 'Tea'? 
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
March 01, 2009
07:42 AM Post #6205458
| That is my understanding too. Except the 'i' is very short. so not teeee but tee |
angel_tree_baby
Orange Park, FL
(Zone 9a)
March 01, 2009
10:53 AM Post #6205961
| You all sure know alot about Ti plants. I have been growing them for some time but there doesn't see to be alot of specific information about them.
I have a few questions if anyone can help?
-Are ti plants self fertile?
-How can you tell when the seedpod is ripe and about how long does it take till they are ripe?
- When they offset/pup (not sure of the proper terminology lol) do some cultivars commonly produce offsets that are different from the mother plant as well as some that are the same? For example, I have a kiwi that always makes 2 pups that are green with a hot pink edge and then it will make 1 that looks like kiwi and so forth lol.
Thanks
Lenette |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 01, 2009
12:29 PM Post #6206317
| also in league with Lenette's question...Carol you were telling me some process that the seeds need to go through or they remain dormant...right? |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 01, 2009
12:43 PM Post #6206376
| Here's one I got..it doesn't have a tag. There was sign on the row, but forgot to write it down with the pen I didn't have. :) 
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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 01, 2009
12:47 PM Post #6206399
| I guess that one is Cordyline fruiticosa 'Willey's Gold in the previous..
and this one Cordyline terminalis 'Purple Dazzler'
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 01, 2009
02:02 PM Post #6206761
| Hmmmmm... your Ti are lovely, Randy. That could be Wil'i'is (willy's) Gold...
Yes, it is pronounced TEA. Belongs to the Lily Family! I believe it is Cordyline fructicosa. The offsets (pups, keiki) can vary from the parent...and/or can be identical. The seeds are ripe when they are soft and should be 'smushed' out of the casing as the flesh of the seed pod can be an inhibitor to germination (when/if it passes thru a birds gullet it comes out 'clean'). I believe they can be selfed. All of the variations we see/have are all crosses...the original one being the green Ti - so none of the seed comes 'true' to the pod parent.
I love their undemanding nature...and generosity of visual delight!!! |
angel_tree_baby
Orange Park, FL
(Zone 9a)
March 01, 2009
04:17 PM Post #6207267
| Alohahoya, thanks for that great info. I didnt know they were called keikis (like an orchid!). Keiki is my kitty's name. She is all black and I originally named her Orchid. When she was a little kitten my dh said, she is too little for such a sophisticated name and started callling her keiki and the name just stuck lol.
Good to know about the genetic information on Ti's. I have some seedpods on an unknown stripey-looking one with wide leaves. None of the others were blooming here but I suppose probably some of the neighbor's might have been.
I am enjoying looking at everyone's different Ti photos :)
~Lenette |
phughes
Portland, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 01, 2009
08:13 PM Post #6208304
| Yeah RJ it's a Wiley's Gold. I had it on my list to look at and was considering getting it but I wasn't sure how different it was from one I already have.
Was that white plant you gave me possibly a shrimp plant? I saw one at a nursery in Corpus today and it looked very similar. It was cool too. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
March 01, 2009
08:22 PM Post #6208342
| I didn't get HALF of what I planned to. (I know. Don't end a sentence with a preposition)
Still had a great time. Just a reason to do it again.
Christi |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 01, 2009
08:54 PM Post #6208462
| I'm not sure what it is Patty..I looked for tags..but didn't find them..When Wayne comes over I'll ask him.
That's okay Christi, we saved money that way! |
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 5b)
March 01, 2009
09:03 PM Post #6208506
| LOL. Glad you guys had a great time!! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 02, 2009
01:25 AM Post #6209549
| Yes!!! I was that fly you kept swatting at...didn't you see me???? or at least HEAR me?
Carol HAHAHAHAHA |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 02, 2009
01:27 AM Post #6209554
| HAHAHAHA!!!...
Did you like the chicken Fettucine? |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 02, 2009
01:40 AM Post #6209584
| Too much salt!!
heheheheheh |
phughes
Portland, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 02, 2009
09:31 AM Post #6210259
| I saw a plant that looked like it at one of my nurseries yesterday. I am thinking it may be a white shrimp plant. It was pretty too. |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 02, 2009
12:09 PM Post #6211021
| I don't think so...it does look a bit like Brazilian Plume Flower 'Alba' but the bloom charactoristics aren[t like the Justica which have a cone like head with several blooms where this plant has individual flowers..
I could be completely wrong though
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/136100/ |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 02, 2009
12:13 PM Post #6211036
| comparison photo 
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phughes
Portland, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 02, 2009
01:56 PM Post #6211484
| I think it might be this:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/82112/
I got the name off of Wayne's website. Look at the leave foliage on the bottom picture. The justica has fatter leaves which is why I don't think that is it. The nursery plant I saw yesterday had very similar leaves and the flower was long. I think the plants we have just haven't bloomed like they will. Time will tell |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
March 02, 2009
02:09 PM Post #6211529
| I have this plant. Grew like wild last summer and bloomed its head off. I never knew for sure where I got it. I know I didn't buy it. Did you bring it Randy or did Mitch? Before I just let it fend for itself (freeze) I took lots of cuttings. So far some of the cuttings have sprouted but I didn't mark them so I don't know what is what. Makes for a great Spring of surprise.
It died to the ground and I have since moved it where it would have more room. Still don't know if it will come back from the roots. The bird bath has frozen the last two nights so it will be a while before I trust the weather.
Christi |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 02, 2009
02:31 PM Post #6211644
| no I looked at that one too..the blooms are entirely different.
Christi, ya never know..there were alot of bonus plants in the pots. |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 02, 2009
02:33 PM Post #6211651
| blog..your a star again Patty
http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=rj... |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 02, 2009
11:08 PM Post #6214232
| Found it.
White Candles
Whitfieldia elongata
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/97166/ |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 03, 2009
01:16 AM Post #6214719
| Here are my two new Ti: PinkSister with a Cream Edge on the left and Dwarf Purple Prince on the right... 
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phughes
Portland, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 03, 2009
09:01 AM Post #6215352
| Oh cool. You are right; that looks exactly like it. Need to write this down and file it away so i will remember. Thanks! |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 03, 2009
04:33 PM Post #6217029
| Those are cool Carol, where are you going to plant them...in Ti row? |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 03, 2009
05:05 PM Post #6217158
| Ha...I think i am going to put them outside by the catchment tank under the draecena...the dwarf PP likes shade...and that area is screaming for color!!!! |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
March 03, 2009
11:06 PM Post #6218648
| Carol...those are gorgeous. Are there any Ti that like sun? I finally got potting soil and a good batch of compost...I'm trying to rearrange some things. I took your advise and the day before I plan to water I fill a bucket and let it sit overnight to water the Ti's. But mine are still looking a bit ragged. I would love to try the more colorful ones, but I'm afraid of killing them. Ahhh me...I am so gulity of floracide, I should be on the 10 most wanted criminal list!
Randy - so glad you got it identified. I am sooooo jealous of you guys and your fun Nursery tour!
Yokwe,
Shari |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 04, 2009
01:05 AM Post #6219102
| There are many that take full sun!!!! And most of them do well with salt... The snails/slugs love them, so perhaps you are being invaded? |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 04, 2009
05:53 PM Post #6221652
| Hi Shari! I'm glad I found it too..was driving me crazy...
here is Carols guest blog on Ti's she did for me...she mentions a few I think for sun
http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=rj... |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 04, 2009
06:02 PM Post #6221689
| There are only a few that don't like full sun...usually those with deep purple and those with Yellow... LOTS of yellow or white are like variegates...other colors are OK... |
extranjera
Mérida
Mexico
(Zone 11)
March 05, 2009
01:04 AM Post #6223590
| We have a lot of the tall pink/red ones here but they always look so leggy. Is there a secret? Can I lop them off and stick the top back in the soil? I'd plant them but I'm so tired of seeing all the lanky ones with little tufts of leaves at the top. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 05, 2009
01:56 AM Post #6223686
| EXACTLY!!!! It is so EASY!!! Lop off the top, stick it in the ground! Lop off another length of cane, stick it in the ground...you can have graduating heights... Shorter canes all clumped in different lengths look wonderful!!! Just remember that when you cut a cane, two sprouts will happen at the top...just control your arrangement that way.
If you foliar feed them, the top leaves fill out and color up beautifully. They are so forgiving...so generous...so colorful... They fit anyone description of a weed...! |
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)
March 05, 2009
06:49 AM Post #6223895
| The hot pink Ti is the one I see 99.9% of the time, around Tampa. There is more than I cultivar, but, from a distance they look same. I wish I had more to work with after seeing all those beauties on the Big Island. 
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phughes
Portland, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 05, 2009
09:54 AM Post #6224309
| What do you usually foliar feed them??? |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 05, 2009
02:36 PM Post #6225421
| Dale...that hot pink looks more like a Pahoa seedling than Pink Sister...
I foliar feed with Miracle Gro!!!! In the spring I may use Fish Fertilizer to get them going! Since I foliar feed other plants as well, that i want to bloom, I find MG is fine!!!
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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
March 05, 2009
02:55 PM Post #6225488
| Good morning Carol! Could you explain how new varieties of Ti are produced? If you cross varieties (pollen) can you mix their traits?
Thanks much, Dave |
phughes
Portland, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 05, 2009
03:19 PM Post #6225556
| Oh good. That's what I use--sometimes MG; other times Fish emulsion. |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
March 05, 2009
03:25 PM Post #6225575
| Where do you all get Fish emulsion? |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 05, 2009
04:16 PM Post #6225774
| It's at any nursery...I think the most common one I see is Alaska Fish Emulsion
http://www.planetnatural.com/site/alaska-fish-fertilizer.htm... |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
March 05, 2009
04:35 PM Post #6225880
| Well, I guess I will have to look beyond Home Depot... |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 05, 2009
05:43 PM Post #6226190
| they have it there too |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
March 05, 2009
06:30 PM Post #6226357
| In my territory it is always easy to find at Lowe's. I think they even have more than one size. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 05, 2009
07:39 PM Post #6226665
| Fish Emulsion and Molassas are wonderful to pour into a new planting area...or to revive an old one...the FE has microrganisms, the molassas feeds them and everyone down there gets really groovy!!!! The worms come and the roots thrive!!!!! |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
March 05, 2009
09:51 PM Post #6227189
| Carol, I have been buying dried molasses at the feed store and someone on another thread said it is no good, needs to be liquid. Can you help me?
PK |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
March 05, 2009
09:55 PM Post #6227214
| Will go do a serious check tomorrow, but Home Depot didn't have it last week, I looked.
Oh and thanks for the molasses reminder, I used that last year, I think it's good stuff.
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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 05, 2009
10:17 PM Post #6227303
| I have molasses...I never used in on the roots. though...foliar spray only...will try on roots. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
March 05, 2009
10:19 PM Post #6227308
| Randy, dried or liquid? |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 05, 2009
10:20 PM Post #6227316
| Liquid, I've not heard of dried molasses, but I don't see why it wouldn't work as a soil amendment |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
March 05, 2009
10:22 PM Post #6227319
| Will try to find the thread where "dried" was not supposed to so great. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 05, 2009
11:00 PM Post #6227438
| I have never heard about dried...
Hey Dave...well, about crossing Ti. It is my understanding that all of the Ti running around with the colorful leaves are all cultivars...so when you grow out the seeds, who knows what you will get. That said, I know that Roy Shiginaga has done some crosses with the New Guinea Blacks (which, I believe IS a species Cordyline but not sure) and he has gotten some incredibly varied leaf structures...but all black.
I do think you can cross pollinate - from what i have been told - two that are very different from eachother, and get a mix of the traits: say a 'feather' with a broad leaf... When all of them are in bloom the bees are all over them...and I get a lot of seeds. But those I have grown out have been unremarkable so far...boring in fact. That is going to be on my schedule next blooming period...and I have some Wili'is Gold with seeds I am going to grow out...maybe?????? |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
March 06, 2009
01:05 AM Post #6227964
| Thanks Carol; I get volunteers from seeds near their parents that often look just like the parents; sometimes they come out with less color. I was hoping to cross some of the more interesting types and come up with some mixes.
Any form of molasses is rich in potassium, calcium, iron, and some phosphorus. Blackstrap molasses is the richest. |
phughes
Portland, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 06, 2009
08:54 AM Post #6228522
| My local WM carries that brand of FE believe it or not. I don't think I've seen it at Lowe's or HD but maybe it's cause I haven't looked for it since I buy it at WM. |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
March 06, 2009
09:53 AM Post #6228743
| Walmart here I come. |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
March 06, 2009
01:25 PM Post #6229597
| No dice at Walmart but finally ended up at the one nursery that is my last stop here in town (because they are expensive) and found it there. So off to fertilize I go...
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 06, 2009
02:34 PM Post #6229894
| I think that too often the bees are self pollinating the Ti...so the range of variation is a lot less... |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
March 06, 2009
03:11 PM Post #6230080
| Yes Carol, 'Ole Fulks' bees are always in our gardens stealing pollen!
Here they are hassling my tangors.
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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
March 06, 2009
03:27 PM Post #6230145
| Bees do help make fruit!
I wonder if a bag tied onto the inflorescence of the desired varieties, and only removed to cross the plants, would work to insure the results?
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AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 07, 2009
03:33 AM Post #6232445
| Hey...great idea!!! I hate it when I have to wait a year to do something...pout!
Edited to add that I think i would wrap it with some gauzy like material (I bought some really cheap stuff at Walmart that I tie around the banana stalk when they hang on the porch to keep away the gnats).
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
March 09, 2009
08:46 AM Post #6241584
| I scored a bunch of 'Red Sister' logs yesterday - I posted them on the trade forum.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/960940/ |
FloridaFlwrGirl
Fort Lauderdale, FL
March 09, 2009
10:43 AM Post #6242077
| the first one looks a lot like plants they refer to around here (south florida) as sherbert ti. |
mpabbott1
(Mary) Poway, CA
(Zone 10a)
March 09, 2009
11:04 PM Post #6245436
| I just purchased an 'Auntie Lou' Ti. It's tiny at this point but I like the coloration. Got it on eBay, and they threw in an 'Prince Albert'. |
Texasgal77
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 11, 2009
01:59 AM Post #6250495
| WoW, that sounds like a pretty good deal! Good for you! They'll grow! |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
March 11, 2009
05:46 AM Post #6250638
| How much do you water molasses down ? I use Kelp mostly but have heard a tipple of molasses in foliar sprays helps it adhere to the leaves. Are you guys using it strictly on the soil or in foliar sprays as well? We live near a sugar mill so I've been wanting to try it but it's not something commonly used in the land of monoculture and chemical fert. Ann |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 11, 2009
02:59 PM Post #6252359
| Ann - I have never tried it in foliar...and I do foliar feed. Will investigate.
I generally mix the molassas with something organic like fish fert or chicken manure, make a tea and water it into a bed I am going to plant or transplant into. Even seed planting. I will also water it into the ground around plants that don't seem too happy...increasing the positive bacteria around the roots and encouraging the worms to come in... |
Texasgal77
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 11, 2009
06:55 PM Post #6253277
| Thanks Carol! That is very informative! (sp?) Very interesting! I've seen that one Rose gardener on PBS mix about everything imagineable. I'm afraid that I would put the wrong thing in the wrong place and kill it!
Of course some of my things that were in the GH would have been better if left out as while I was down they didn't get as much water as they should have. I'm sure they'll come back in the Spring. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 11, 2009
10:22 PM Post #6254237
| Darius wrote an article about increasing the Brix in the vegetables you grow...and this, I think, is from that article... |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
March 11, 2009
11:32 PM Post #6254596
| Molasses?
One tablespoon per gallon water; liquified and poured over the plant. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 12, 2009
12:45 AM Post #6254884
| So, Dave...what is your understanding what it does for the plant? |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
March 12, 2009
12:51 AM Post #6254897
| Molasses is a good potassium and iron kick for plants that you want to keep! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
March 12, 2009
12:55 AM Post #6254907
| AHA - of course...Potassium!!!! Apparently there are some fert manufacturers eliminating P from their NPK. Molassas would be a good additive... Now the price of Molassas will go even higher. Will it be called NMK? |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
March 12, 2009
08:13 PM Post #6258455
| I've abandonded the foliar feeding with mollases, and it could be that I used to much each time even though I went by directions. All of the good microbes it attracts is equally as good for the nasties..had increased fungus and increased diseases. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
March 12, 2009
08:52 PM Post #6258673
| I'm still stuck on epsom salt and alfalfa pellets. |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
April 07, 2009
07:17 PM Post #6379477
| Now I'm all discombobulated...molasses or not? Dave, do you think it is any more efficacious than the plant foods with potasium...enough to risk the experiences that Randy had? I have been adding molasses, but noticed in increase in pests lately. don't know if it is because of the molasses, or our very strange weather, but now I can't help but wonder...
Yokwe,
Shari |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
April 07, 2009
07:20 PM Post #6379491
| I'm interested in that answer too. I used the liquid mollasses ..and stopped because along with the good feeding, it also fed bad stuff, funges and disease were promoted, and with that came bugs. |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
April 07, 2009
07:30 PM Post #6379549
| Along with the potassium, iron, & calcium in molasses is also carbohydrates; plants make their own carbs, critters don't! |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
April 07, 2009
07:48 PM Post #6379623
| aaahhh...! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
April 07, 2009
08:03 PM Post #6379686
| I do add molassas to water, along with fish fert or chicken manure when preparing a bed to plant...get the microrganisms in there...good bacteria, worms... |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
April 07, 2009
09:35 PM Post #6380046
| that's for root watering? I would do that |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
April 07, 2009
10:41 PM Post #6380387
| Yes...root watering... It's amazing how the sugars seem to help the plants...give them little microbes something to eat... I use a LOT of molassas!!!! |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
April 07, 2009
11:23 PM Post #6380584
| Carol, What's your ratio for ground feeds? Ann |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
April 08, 2009
01:14 PM Post #6382475
| 2 TBLspoons of each to a gal (4 litres) of water...more or less. |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
April 08, 2009
04:12 PM Post #6383114
| Thanks Carol.
BTW. The DPI guy (dept of primary industries) here told us applications of excess nitrogen in the Wet can feed Erwinia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwinia Ann |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
April 08, 2009
04:25 PM Post #6383152
| Carol, my new Manini leaf is turning brownish..It came out perfect, but when it started to unfurl it's getting brownish..is it getting burned? I stuck it in a bed that has stuff to shade it, but the changing sun position is starting to go overhead. |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
April 08, 2009
07:35 PM Post #6383965
| Hey Randy, any chance that there is a lack of potassium where the banana is? |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
April 08, 2009
07:41 PM Post #6383995
| I've given it some NITRATE OF POTASH...
|
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
April 08, 2009
07:46 PM Post #6384036
| Whoa! That's explosive! |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
April 08, 2009
08:11 PM Post #6384141
| really? what would you recommend..fortuneatly my motto is a little is a lot. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
April 08, 2009
10:40 PM Post #6384772
| Build a bonfire, burn some trashy wood and pour the ashes on the Naner... |
Islandshari
Kwajalein
Marshall Islands
(Zone 11)
April 08, 2009
11:04 PM Post #6384844
| Always such great info here. Keep on educating us all ...thanks!
Yokwe,
Shari |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
April 09, 2009
12:17 AM Post #6385160
| If you haven't got the time or wood according to my "Soils Alive " Potassium chloride or muriate of potash is %50% chloride and bad stuff. Potassium sulphate or sulphate of potash is much better.
We use the ash from winter fires around but it only stretches so far :)
Ann
ps Kelp can be up to 15% potassium!!! |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
April 09, 2009
01:19 AM Post #6385322
| K-Mag is easy on plants and provides two macro-nutrients! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
April 09, 2009
01:55 AM Post #6385377
| My vegie garden bed (I had the soil analysed) was low on K but high on Magnesium...so...what to add??? Oh Dave...what would we do without you?
Carol |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
April 09, 2009
03:52 PM Post #6387857
| I did take my list with muriate of potash written (from Carol) and they had everything of Potash except for that.
I used all of my ashes from my chiminea..mabe that's why it looked so good last year.
I have kelp..I'll try a little of that. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
April 09, 2009
05:51 PM Post #6388303
| OK...I got some fert. with N and K and no P. Gonna work a but of that in! |
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI
April 09, 2009
07:29 PM Post #6388731
| Carol, K is potassium; P is phosphorus.
Don't forget that potassium goes out of the soil fairly quick; tropical plants use more potassium than other nutrients. Might be safer to have a well balanced fertilizer. Gaviota "Palm & Citrus" has a 2-1-3 / N-P-K ratio; that is good for most tropicals. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
April 09, 2009
09:34 PM Post #6389277
| Oh my. None of that is available in my area. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
April 10, 2009
01:21 AM Post #6390134
| Interesting, Dave...I didn't know that about tropical plants using more K than anything else. Why?
My vegetable garden soil came back analyzed as low in N and K so am adding something BEI recommended. (like 23-O-18). Anxious to see the results.
|
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
April 10, 2009
02:10 AM Post #6390195
| This Easter Holiday's blog will be taking Houston Chronicle readers to Hawaii to visit Carol via a virtual tour.
AlohaHoya Gardens
http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=rj... |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
April 10, 2009
11:10 AM Post #6391152
| Breathe taking.
LouC |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
04:54 AM Post #7196304
| Hello everyone...
I'm sorry I didn't find you guys earlier. I'm Kristy abd I'm the web master and editor for the International Cordyline Society. Check out the website at http://www.cordyline.org I think some of you have already had a look. We are updating it all the time, I currently have 100's more photos I need to put on. If only there were more hours in a day!!
I would like to clear up a few bits of information that I have seen posted wrong... just so we all know the right information. All photos of cordylines posted have been Cordyline fruticosa, Cordyline terminallis is now longer a valid name. Although a lot of literature still refers to the Ti plant as Cordyline terminalis, this name is obsolete and now invalid. The correct name is Cordyline fruiticosa. Cordylines are known in Hawaii as Ti plants and yes Ti sounds like Tea.
Heck I know there was smore but I can't think now, but I am happy to join you all, I am very interested in Cordylines from all over the world. I have seen some wonderful treasures posted on here!! We have a growing membership in Hawaii and the US at the moment, it seems the love of cordylines is really growing. There has been a lot of named cordylines in here that are wrong... if you would like me to identify any for you let me know... : )
If you have any questions please feel free to ask me or you can check the FAQ's on the website or email me via the website. If you have any info to pass onto me, I would love to hear from you too.
Hope to chat with you all soon...
Kristy
Here is something new to wet your appetite! This is a new one named Turkish Delight.
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
October 22, 2009
05:55 AM Post #7196337
| That's just gorgeous! |
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)
October 22, 2009
08:20 AM Post #7196532
| Welcome to DG Kristi, Big huge sigh here, Turkish Delight has such rich colors.
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LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
October 22, 2009
10:44 AM Post #7196899
| Just in time for some expert advice. Planted out my Ti this spring and now it is time to put things inside. Can they withstand a zone 8a winter in the ground? Guess what I am asking is , are they root hardy?
And of course, welcome to DG where the finest of the fine dwell.
Christi |
Braveheartsmom
Kihei, HI
(Zone 11)
October 22, 2009
11:04 AM Post #7196970
| Aloha Kristy, and welcome! Glad to have you join us from the land of "down under".
Please do correct any of the Ti's that we have incorrectly named, it's always good to have an expert on board! Your Turkish Delight is well named - it's yummy!
Jenn |
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)
October 22, 2009
11:39 AM Post #7197091
| Oh Kristi, I just couldn't resist...
From the International Cordyline Society site:
| Quoted: | | Cordylines like any nitrogen rich fertilizer, we suggest to use any chook poo based fertilizers such as Organic Xtra and add Sulphate of Potash to enhance colour. |
What is a chook? |
Braveheartsmom
Kihei, HI
(Zone 11)
October 22, 2009
12:14 PM Post #7197172
| A chicken! |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 22, 2009
01:02 PM Post #7197268
| thanks for info-
ROTFLOL!!!!! Chookenpoo, new term added to the Jungle Heights garden lingo! |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
October 22, 2009
01:47 PM Post #7197393
| Right...I had forgotten about 'chooks'...
Yes, Kristy...I would love to know your names for the Ti. It is my understanding that often Ti are given many names...for instance...C. shubertii is also known as 'Turkey Tail' and 'Hawaiian Flag'... I do try to keep them all with any Ti I grow...
Aloha,
Carol |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
08:12 PM Post #7198571
| LOL, everyone... nice to feel welcome : )
Yes Turkish Delgiht is a newbie I found by a grower in North Queensland. He gave me the honour to name it and I thought the name was well fitting.
Lou C... yes they are tuff, cordyline have a tuber/rhyzome if it has matured enough, you could say this is their life support. You will be able to dig it up without any probs... you can also cut the rhyzome up and create new plant without having to cut the top off your plant.
Ardesia... yes is is chicken poo, chicken manure, chook poo, chook manure...LOL. ANyway you like it...
Carol, I must say I have never known of Schubertii called anything else till recently when I found someone calling it Fiji. As for hawaiian Flag, here is a photo attached of what is regestered as Hawaiian Flag. This is a great problem at the moment and it is something the club is working on fixing as there are a lot of errors out there. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
08:15 PM Post #7198584
| Here are some of your pics to clear up some name issues...
This one is called Ballerina... it is the mini version of John Klass.
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
08:17 PM Post #7198590
| This is HiLo Rainbow 
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
08:17 PM Post #7198593
| With more sunlight HiLo Rainbow would get more stronger pink tones... |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
08:21 PM Post #7198608
| This one is called Negra and it very popular as it's a great landscaping Ti that will handle full sun. It's very hardy and a fast grower... I have seen it called Black Magic in Hawaii. I would like to look into this further so if anyone has any info on where it received this name I would love to know... 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
08:23 PM Post #7198619
| This is not a photo of Pink Diamond but leave it with me I will look into this. I will add a pic of Pink Diamond though as it too is very popular, hardy, fast growing, takes full sun and a tall landscaping plant. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
08:30 PM Post #7198658
| This is Pink Diamond... 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
08:36 PM Post #7198676
| There is also White Diamond... 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
08:41 PM Post #7198698
| This photo is not Earthquake, I'll post one of those in a minute... I'm not sure on what Tsunami is but this looks like Vanuatu to me... It's a little hard to tell, I could be more posative with a top view of the plant. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
08:46 PM Post #7198725
| Here is Earthquake... 
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
08:51 PM Post #7198749
| I don't know what this is but I am very interested in trying to find out. I only saw this a few weeks back for the first time. A member from Kauai, Hawaii shared this photo on the ICS Forum but he also had no name for it. Carol, yours is much bigger and has a lot more colour than his. If you have any info on where you got it or anything I would love to know.
Very nice mini...
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
09:01 PM Post #7198789
| For anyone who is really interested in Cordylines / Ti's think about becoming a member of the International Cordyline Society. We are the only organisation worldwide that concentrates solely on Cordylines / Ti's. We put 4 magazines out a year jam packed with Cordyline / Ti info... Information can be found on the website at http://www.cordyline.org under memberships... Overseas membership is olny AU$30 a year... if you join now the membership rolls over and includes next year, making it a grat time to join.
If you have any other questions... please feel free to ask me... : )
If you haven't already worked out, I love Cordylines and love talking about them. I love finding new varieties and love seeing what plants people get from seed. Mother nature is a truely wonderful thing!! |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
09:09 PM Post #7198827
| Oh Sorry LouC... Ijust read you questiona again... I'm not up on zones... but they are tough... if it stresses in heat or cold, they always bounce back and generally toughen up in the process. They have to do it tuff in my garden... I have no protection of a canopy to offer them yet... they juat have to cope or die and I havn't lost many. I get the extreme heat of summer and I also get light frosts through winter. The Cordylines I have had the longest are the toughest, they have changed to suit their climate and they now cope very well. I have over 200 cultivars and they power on.
My suggestion is to have a go and see, if it stresses, leave it, wait for the new growth to come up, once the new leaves emerge, they will be tough and strong and be able to deal with the conditions you have them in. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
October 22, 2009
10:01 PM Post #7199056
| Thank you very much. I put them in the tool shed last year with heat when it was below freezing. We get half dozen nights in the twenties with an occasional reading in the teens.
Oh, BTW, that is fahrenheit.
They were inexpensive to purchase so I could replace it next spring if it doesn't come back.
The musa and elephant ears are root hardy and come back twice as large as the year before.
Christi |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
October 22, 2009
10:02 PM Post #7199057
| I would love that ballerina |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 22, 2009
10:34 PM Post #7199176
| LouC... below freezing???? Like below 0?? Do you know if fahreneit is halved to get degrees?? If it helps I get down as cold as 2-3 degrees where I am at night, only ever get a couple on nights that cold though.
Hope this helps...
Dutchlady1, Ballerina is everywhere here, we pull them out, cut them off, toss them away. |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
October 22, 2009
11:08 PM Post #7199287
| Freezing is 32 degrees fahrenheit as opposed to celsius. |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 22, 2009
11:12 PM Post #7199298
| I have to work with Celsius/Fahrenheit at work all the time, so here is something to help the US folks figure out what our friends in Australia are talking about when they say degrees, it's Celsius. 1 Degree is actually just at freezing in Fahrenheit at 33.8F.
Celsius/Fahrenheit converter
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS... |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 23, 2009
12:21 AM Post #7199481
| Ok ... that sounds real cold, it migh be worth bringing them in then... are you talking snow? We had a black frost here a few years back, our cordylines went clear before going brown and crispy. They did grow back, they actually grew back with many multiple heads. But I can honestly say I don't know about the conditions you are talking about. How long have you had your cordylines for? |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
October 23, 2009
01:07 AM Post #7199557
| kristi...That mini was given to me by a landscaper/afficionado from Kawi...he didn't know the name either. Ballerina is called 'Baby Doll' here...
Do you know Debbi Ward? she got me started with Ti and now I think she is kinda out of the loop. Sad...she put a lot of energy into a good collection!
Carol
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 23, 2009
03:04 AM Post #7199641
| Hi Carol, we have another one called Baby Doll here, it is also known as Dolly, Iv'e added a photo of Baby Doll for you. I don't know a Debbi Ward, I do know Jenny Ward and a Frank Ward here in Australia. Who is Debbi and where is she from?
Kristy 
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 23, 2009
03:09 AM Post #7199642
| We have just recieved some Hawaiian imports today would you believe... we have one called Mini Hawaiian Flag, I am wondering if that is going to turn into that little mini that you have... they have been in too much shade so we have to wait for them to colour up properly now.
If it is I'll ley you know... I'll pinch myself if we have just aquired what I thought we could only dream to have. I guess we always want what we don't have!! : ) |
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)
October 23, 2009
05:41 AM Post #7199679
| My head is swimming. Although I have been interested in Ti's for a while they really caught my eye this year. Now I want them ALL... :-)
This photo was taken in Carol's garden, isn't this one gorgeous. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 23, 2009
07:25 AM Post #7199770
| Oh yes that is Hawaiian Rose... It's very beautiful and grows very tall... I can understand ardesia... they can be very addictive!! 
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 23, 2009
07:33 AM Post #7199788
| Here is one to blow your mind... this one is called Crinkle Cut, it's bred by Robyn Ganley here in Australia... I must say I have never seen one grow this good before...
I just LOVE it!!!
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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 23, 2009
09:15 AM Post #7199997
| I like that Baby Doll !
Don't worry Ardesia! Wayne and I went a little mad for ti's this year ourselves, thanks to Carols guest blog on them earlier this year! |
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)
October 23, 2009
09:24 AM Post #7200014
| And there are so few places stateside that offer any variety!
My Ti's generally do OK during the winter but most lost their leaves last year due to the unusual low temps. I have my FreezePruf handy this time and am looking forward to trying it. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
October 23, 2009
01:12 PM Post #7200616
| Crinkle Cut looks like one growing here called Bolero.
Will go around and take pictures soon, Kristi. I really like your Baby Doll... I think we should start a new thread on names...OK? It will be interesting to see how many names certain Ti come up with!!!
Have you had sports on yur Miss Andrea? I have a stunning RED one and a bronze one too.
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ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)
October 23, 2009
02:08 PM Post #7200773
| Here is the new thread:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1050541/
This one was getting a bit long for those on dial up. |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 23, 2009
04:43 PM Post #7201184
| What is this blog Carol has written, I have tried to find what you guys are talking about but can't. |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 23, 2009
04:49 PM Post #7201202
| Carol, we too have one called Bolero... it also has another name... can't think of it off the top of my head... I should be able to find a pic... nothing like Crinkle Cut though I'll post another crinkle cut over on the new post in a minute too.
Yes there have been a few problems with Miss Andrea... we have just done a test recently that we will be putting out into our magazine about the conditions it prefers... it was very interesting to see,the outcome was not what I expected. The red and bronze one I think you are talking about is Rainbow Red. Same family as Miss Andrea done through tissue culture. |
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)
October 23, 2009
04:59 PM Post #7201230
| Will post pictures... The red and the bronze are definitely sports... Both are named after Troy Shiganaga's daughters ... |
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 23, 2009
05:03 PM Post #7201241
| I blog a couple times a week about gardening in the Houston area, and asked her to write one on Ti's in an effort to raise visibility of the plant as for the most part they are way under utilized here in our landscape. The climate here is very similar to Sydney.
http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=rj... |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 23, 2009
05:04 PM Post #7201243
| Can't wait to see soem more of your pictures Carol... looking forward to it!!
Info on Dolly or Baby Doll, it is one of the oldest and one of the original cordylines known here in Australia. It goes back so far I don't think we are going to find where it came from or any history on it. There is a fella importing cordylines on the Kauai island, I will check if he has Dolly yet. If he gets it circulating you will have a chance of getting hold of it. |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 23, 2009
05:08 PM Post #7201257
| I posted a pic over on the new thread... of Rainbow Red |
