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fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
12:45 AM

Post #5953986

I was given a mixed bag of seeds (literally, and yes a bad idea, I know~) but this came up and smelled of Dianthus, tho' the seed was listed as a Sweet william which it looked more like. I know there are no flowers now; but is anyone familiar enough with the flowers foilage to give me a guess as to, if this is a ''genetically modified Sweet William'' that will bloom each year? It bloomed and was pretty and smelled of Dianthus; but the look of the flowers was NOT the Sweet Willliam I had bought before at the nursery which I know to be a Biennial~ any help is a great thing. It is about 12 inches high; some in shadier locales are shorter...
Thanks!!!
:Darren

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ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
2:38 AM

Post #5954577

Sweet William is a Dianthus (D. barbatus). They come in a range of different colors so it could be that this one is just a different type than the one you had from the garden center (although I'm not good at ID'ing plants solely based on foliage, so for all I know yours could be a completely different plant). As far as I know there are no special genetically modified ones that are guaranteed to be perennial instead of biennial, but I think your odds of having them be perennials may be better since you're in a warmer climate--my experience here has been that most of them have come back after that second year.
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
2:50 AM

Post #5954632

Thanks Ecrane, i have seen your posts and hold them in high esteem. I will see if any one else sees anything in the plant. It had a multiple different plants each plant witha definite dianthus colored flower( pinks, mauve, whites) but each plant was one color only. I saved what I think MAY be seed pods??? ...and will photo those to post on this thread.
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
2:58 AM

Post #5954671

I would definitely post a pic of the seedpods--that could definitely help someone ID it.
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
3:25 AM

Post #5954819

well they are blurred a bit i don't have the hang on this toy but here are seeds and pods. It is a bad shot, but then i am not a skilled photo taker, lol...you can get a general idea anyway, i hope.
:D

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ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
3:38 AM

Post #5954878

Sorry, hard to tell from the picture--did they look at all like this when they were on the plant? http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/10633/

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fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
3:44 AM

Post #5954906

that link took me too a Bottlebrush, and i NOW gotta recharge me battery for the next (Better!!) picture. dunno why it is SO bad, looked ok on the screen any how let me look the dainthus up again too.
:D
notmartha
Bay City, MI
(Zone 6a)

January 2, 2009
3:44 AM

Post #5954907

purple phlox???
onethera?
or there is this ragweed with tiny pink flowers

i dont think its dianthus!
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
4:07 AM

Post #5955001

It migh have been Phlox! as I said it was a bundle of different varieties of seeds, including a sweet william. Supposedly. Onethera i will look up. Phlox seems to be the best possibility...thanks Notmartha!
:Darren
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
4:14 AM

Post #5955023

the phlox are the righ colors bur the leaves are pointed in the pics and mine are not too pointed may though be a variety?? The onethera are different flowers sadly. It could be a phlox. The scent of a dainthus is a bit different..cant remember phloxs' scent!!!
notmartha
Bay City, MI
(Zone 6a)

January 2, 2009
4:20 AM

Post #5955054

darren my 2 guesses would be purple phlox thats everywhere around here
the other guess is this darn weed-i have been goggling trying to find it and haven't come up with anything
it gets small pinkish white flowers and is a pain to try to pull!!

good luck!!!
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
4:26 AM

Post #5955084

Annual Phlox, Drummond's Phlox 'Coral Reef' ...Phlox drummondii...seems to look close but the picture has a different flower color than what I have had. Mine were not coral colors but reds and purples and a few whites...ahHAAH! i found a picture of blooming from last Summer, duh! Lower left hand corner~!
(sheepish smile)
:Darren

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fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
4:35 AM

Post #5955119

Here is the best pic of it I can find, now i remembered I took PICTURES this SUMMER, LOL...ID anyone? it is the tall one on the right of the lower tiny pink ones
thanks tons all~!

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fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
4:36 AM

Post #5955126

PLEASE IGNORE the Delphinium leaves in the far left and right on the outskirts of the plants...lol
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
4:38 AM

Post #5955136

I edited my post above to put in the correct link for the pic of the Dianthus seedheads--not sure if you're still considering that as a possibility or not.
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
4:51 AM

Post #5955175

:( nooo, they were like, long maybe1.5 inches, tan, and thin as a pencil leads...sorry I should have put something in for size comparison, I thought of it, and then started worrying about the contrast of dark seeds vs white pods! Those seeds you showed would Be Sweet William? I maybe recognized the shape of the flowerheads all together?
The pictures (flower blooms) are my best hope til I get a better seed picture I guess...
Thanks(!) Ecrane3 for editing that link and the work it took!
:Darren
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

January 2, 2009
2:00 PM

Post #5955865

Those are Stock plants/flowers, one of my favorites! I used them a lot as cut flowers when I worked as a floral designer, and love that sweet spicy scent. They don't grow well here because of our heat and humidity, unfortunately.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/47554/
Hemophobic
Kannapolis, NC

January 2, 2009
2:46 PM

Post #5956016

Sweet-scented stocks! Annuals, but reseed themselves.
notmartha
Bay City, MI
(Zone 6a)

January 2, 2009
3:15 PM

Post #5956122

yes after seeing the flowers i agree-stock
rutholive
Tonasket, WA
(Zone 5a)

January 2, 2009
3:29 PM

Post #5956188

Yes, Stocks, one of my favorite annuals. This past summer mine were nice until mid-Nov. Now of course covered with more than 15 " of snow.

Donna
notmartha
Bay City, MI
(Zone 6a)

January 2, 2009
3:59 PM

Post #5956302

me i have to have-the night scented stock-the fragrance is to die for

snowing here again too! our 11in melted after Christmas
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
6:43 PM

Post #5956983

wow~~~!!!!!! it is an Annual that survived snow, did i get luck or what! I have several around the garden, i will have to fertilize them now to encouragge more growth!!!! i thought stocks were (ones i had seen in garden centers) slighter in size and more frail stemmed.
Thanks for the ID!
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

January 2, 2009
8:40 PM

Post #5957479

fernman, the night scented types are slighter in stature.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/179364/

How cold are your winters? Stock love cool weather, I'm thinking they may be a good winter annual for you.
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2009
11:53 PM

Post #5958262

oh yeah...30 is averagwe winter low dec-feb and then warms up slowly. wee had that fluke sno and they didn't even get fazed! pretty great to know. I just cutback20 feet of Lantana downn t ot the ground so it iss time for a REST and some tea,,,
Thanks, Gemini. I did not realize two types of Stock existed I will have to research into that more~!
:Darren
timeinabottle
Louisville, KY

January 4, 2009
6:53 PM

Post #5965241

Yes definitely stock.
fernman23
HENDERSON, NV
(Zone 9a)

January 4, 2009
7:22 PM

Post #5965381

VERY good news...i have a lot of success with Dianthus and now I can add Stock to my happy plant list here~thanks a bunch~~~!!!!!
:Darren

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