I'm sitting here worrying about all those cool threads we have going on OTHER forums...giggle...ridiculous! How do we get 'em here, I wonder...link and continue? Magical mystical DG transfer spell? Links post? So much talking to do, so little finger...
Grownut, what you could do is get together links to all of the threads you want included and someone from admin can make a "sticky" to put that post at the top of the forum. That is what I did on the self contained box gardens forum.
I can, can I?? ;-) I've been up to so much already...
Thing is there are plenty of discussions in progress now as opposed to something to reference from here on out...Don't really want to lose the thread(sts) of the discussion. And I tend to get lost or go awol linking...
My fear (based on looking at what words are most commonly used) is that you'll lose a lot of basic pottery, clay folks if the forum is called "kiln-fired arts"
That's a pretty esoteric term, and most people generally aren't using it when they search around the internet for clay, ceramic and pottery forums. We can add something in the intro that explains the forum welcomes all those who work in these various media, as well as those who are kiln-fired arts enthusiasts.
I understand the concern---we're SO grateful you set this up, and we'll make it work! :-)
I don't really understand how a "sticky" functions. Do you think there be value to adding a "sticky" to Artisans, for instance, that tells people about specific forums (Mosaics and Stained Glass, Pottery & Ceramics, Basketweaving, for instance)?
It mostly saves a good thread from disappearing. If the info is important enough and there's no better way to put the info out there, then a sticky will do --that's why those 2 stickies are up top the DG forum -keeps 'em from getting lost.
I sipping a glass of wine in celebration, even if I'm a glass fuser and not a potter. Doesn't matter the name, just that we now have a home! A great big THANKS to admin for acknowledging us insecure artistic types! CHEERS!
I studied Japanese in college (at GGKs Eugene Or) and then went to Japan and lived/studied/worked there just under 7 years. There I did my mudslinging. I'm actually a trained interpreter who enjoyed other things better.
Any kind of pottery or glass discussion I am up for
I don't know anything about pottery but would certainly be willing to learn. I'd like to find some fusers more experienced than I (won't take much) who can help me with some technical problems. But art, any art, is good for discussion. Inspiration, medium, technique...whatever.
By "hot glass" do you mean fusing or lampwork beads or other things? or all? I only fuse. I'm not coordinated enought to work with molten honey. One thing with one hand and another thing with the other hand. Lampwork beads are beautiful though. And I have about 6 to show for my 1 class to prove I tried :-D
outtamygourd, have you ever fused leaves between 2 pieces of glass? Clear on top of course.
I'm headed off to pick up my kids from school right now. I'll try to get back on this evening and up load some shots. I was just saying on another thread that I've found glass can be very temparamental, at least with me. Probably because I'm just at what you would call an apprentice level. I've tried a lot, learned alot, but haven't really mastered a lot. I do love it though. :-)
One of the wonderful things about having this forum -we can get exposure to a wider variety of media that are available if you do KFA! (And yes, I want to continue using that term...says a whole lot, simply!)
3gardeners ~ No, I have not yet tried to fuse any inclusions except copper sheet & foil. And I only made my first inclusion piece a few weeks ago. I've only been fusing for a year or so and consider myself a beginning beginner (sub-apprentice!). My biggest issue right now is unwanted bubbles. Some of them I can handle, but the first piece in which I used inclusions had such a bubble I had to patch it and refire! I just got my fusers glue and have a piece ready to assemble so will be getting it in the kiln this weekend. How would you fuse the leaf without it turning to black dust?
This is the first piece. Notice the many, MANY bubbles? I spoke with the young lady who got me started in this and showed her this piece. She mentioned that her teacher bar-be-qued the copper prior to fusing...literally threw it on the bar-be-que for about 20 minutes prior to firing. I guess I'll try baking my next one since it's been far too rainy here to light the que. Also, the piece cracked while annealing during the first firing which, during the second, caused it to draw in at the edge on 3 sides. I would have liked this anomaly had there been this same glitch on the 4th side...*sigh*
Is there any way we can get "glass" added to the name of this new forum. I am afraid glass artists such as myself will do a search for "glass" and miss this forum. And, we would miss hearing from them.
Terry did mention that the forum itself was a work in progress and many of us have discussed how to get it in there. Pottery, Clay, and Ceramics gets googled all the time -KFA is our own (er, well, Sharran's) term. If we can come up with something EASILY WEB-SEARCHED (teach me how to italicize and I won't shout -sorry can't figure it out!!) which includes hot glass I'm fairly sure they'd fit it in for us. The trick seems to be grabbing attention without losing glass artists.
In the mean time, if we continue to have hot glass and fusing discussions here, it WILL show up on a google search.
Well, I got a few photos of some of my stuff. Should I put it here or start a new thread for sample photos to show our increased enthusiasm for glass fusing? (I wonder if I'm even asking this on the right thread?
Um.. er from the Grain of Salt Lurker Dictionary "Knowledge about Fudged (Kiln) Attacks". Totally relative to when I blew up my plate in the kiln. Just thought I would toss this in (not to speak of course for the many, many lurkers on this forum who don't blow things up in a kiln and are probably really, really normal.)
Oh, please---blowing stuff up is nothing! My extremely experienced instructor once forgot to shut off the firing, and fused a WHOLE KILNLOAD together, shelves and all. The class's summer project was kiln-building...
I asked Admin to turn 3 of our threads into Stickies so they would stay at the top of the screen and we could add to them. She's already done one of them, but asked me to check with other forum users before doing the other two.
The additional two I thought it would make good stickies are the one I started with various throwing videos, and the one GardenGuyKin started that has links to information about the class he's going to take.
Admin's issue with threads containing links, which I can certainly understand, is that links sometimes stop working, and then if DG users click on them they think there's a problem with DG.
Admin is willing to turn the link threads into Stickies if someone is willing to check them once a week or so and either edit/remove (if it's that person's link), or ask Admin to remove a link that's broken.
The way I envision these threads being used, it would become sort of a "lilbrary" of resource links, and it could become very challenging for one person to check all the links every week as we build the resource over time.
I did that on the Poultry and Livestock forum - A reference thread where I linked all the good info threads as well as useful outside pages. It can be a good thing, but whoever posts is then responsible. I am willing to do it for one forum, but not two. I'm afraid I would not keep up with it. I would suggest starting a reference thread and having about 3 people to post on it, adding any links we come up with as they are found or created. For instance - a poster who maintains the glaze recipes on a post, one who does the educational videos on a post, etc.
This is for ideas what we may or may not want to have. As you can see, it's all me right now on this stickie. Don't mind, but it would be nice to see someone else there too. This is also a way to keep down the number of stickies at the top of the page. I think it can be very helpful if there is someone(s) to take responsibility and it is well planned. ---I tried another reference thread and didn't arrange it nearly as well--AND it got filled with blather...
Since I am not volunteering to keep track of one and from what I have read above about the problem with links for now I think that it is smart to stay away from links in a sticky.
It is truly frustrating to try to follow links and find that many of them are no longer working. Of course if someone really great at it wanted to volunteer and that person was willing to let us know if and when they wanted to stop that would be a different story.
I've modified my links thread on P&L to ask anyone finding a non-working link to D-mail me. I don't think it is quite as difficult as perhaps Admin and I made it sound. Many regular DGers have started using it to help answer questions that come up regularly on the forum. Because all the info was gathered and put in in only -9 posts so far?- it's easy to keep track of and very easy for someone to update, notify, take over, etc.
That said, I think it's much more important for us to remember to enjoy this new forum and entice others into our obsessions! I'm a little worried we'll all get so inspired we'll go out and get elbow deep in clay and not come back 'til the fit has passed!!
We can always decide later on to make them stickies if it's value-added.
I also asked Admin about creating a single Sticky thread that includes links to the threads with the OUTside links, and has a little disclaimer on it.
My thought was something like "If a link to a site outside of Dave's Garden does not function, it is not the responsiblity of the DG staff.
If you find a non-functioning link, please contact the person who posted it and ask him/her to verify the link is working, or remove it from the thread.
This thread contains links to throwing technique videos==>>
However, as Admin pointed out, this does not absolve the person who adds a link from the responsiblity of ensuring it's working---and how would we control this if someone leaves DG or just stops participating? I think it might be too risky.
Perhaps the orphan sticky could be put up for adoption to the knowledgeable and participatory current members?
grownut, that was a great idea to D-mail if problems are found. Much more user and originator friendly.
I dont make pottery now,had a studio from 1971 -1996.
Did Craft Shows and exhibited in one woman showes and group shows.
My website is down now but here are a few of the pieces I did.
this was in a New York State exhibit.
Pottery, Clay, Ceramic OH MY ...If I were to tell hubby I wanted to play with clay etc I think Id be in trouble.But it does sound like fun...
Hes just getting the finishing touches on my glass shop. Stained glass & Warm glass.
Lots of recycled glass
the dust goes everywhere,I had a studio in the garage which was at the back of the property and there was always dust on furniture and mud footprints everywhere in the house.
I used to haul water from the tap at the end of the porch..
Well, sort of whatever I can put in the kiln, ha ha!
Hubby bought a huge old kiln at an auction for me, which I do love, but.
I find that so many items I want to do don't necessarily require a humongous
kiln. I'll be honest, the main intent behind the kiln in the first place was that I have
always wanted one. Similar to his 'just gotta have a movie sized popcorn machine'.
Wine bottles and such have been the limit, really. We've made wind chimes
from slices of wine bottles, though I intend to melt wine bottles for cheese trays
at some point. Seems there is always an excuse. Not enough time. Too busy.
Someone has moved things close to the 'not in use at this time' kiln, etc.
Now I've become obsessed with the thought of having a small electric furnace
for metal work and enameling. Yet another hobby I have no time for, sigh.
A box of clay sits unused, though there are plenty of ideas on the brain.
Could someone remind me why I went back to work full time? LOL
Wuvie ~ You work for the same reasons we all do, primarily so that we can continue to spend all our hard-earned cash on our habits! True...there is simply not enough time in the day to accomplish everything I want to do, but it does make the time I DO have much more special. Okay, and now that I said that, I'm grumbling and griping because I have to get ready to leave for workwork now and my DH is retired and doesn't HAVE to go anywhere! Blecch! Workwork definitely interferes with my LIFE!
I knew we'd find someone lurking out there!
I just got word that I'm retiring on March 2nd----with a severance package. I was going to retire in Sept without one, so this is exciting! Now I just have to spend the next 5 weeks training people to take over all 10 of my databases...
Gourd, I hear you. Thankfully, I am often so busy at work that I don't
even have time to think about my real life.
Grownut, did I say enamel? Gotta tell you something great! Mom recently
brought over a box full of small plastic containers. We thought they might
be embossing powders for her stamping hobby. Nope, they are Thompson
enamel powders, a whole box of them! All different colors! See, now I HAVE
to buy an enameling oven, right? no sense in wasting the powder, right?