Now that the daily history has been up and running for a few weeks, what do you think?
Do you find the daily events interesting?
Would you like to see more details? (Or less)?
Would you like more interactivity with the feature?
(Perhaps the ability to "rate" or "vote" on the events, or the ability to launch into a discussion of a particular event, or links to more information...or something else?)
Share your opinions...we're listening ;o)
Tell us how we're doing, please!
Now that the daily history has been up and running for a few weeks, what do you think?
Ability to check back on stuff - I remember you mentioned Landreth (was it 1/7?) but there's no way to go back and verify.
Terry I think a button to launch into a discussion each event is a great idea.
carrie, I can look that up for you, but I don't know if we'll make all the past information accessible, since it will reappear next year ;o)
I vote for the button to discuss the event. I've been reading them...doesn't make me want to rush out and investigate further, but interesting enough to keep on my home page.
Me too threegardeners but I'm sure there will be items that get me going, like Antonio Jose Cavanilles birthday or Franciso Hernandez birthday.
oh....and maybe a reminder at the top of the feature that there IS a forum to discuss the events?
I really like the feature, I find it very interesting to read the history tidbits every morning. I would want to keep what's on the home page short so that it's easy to read quickly, but if there's something that you have a lot more detail on then maybe there could be a link to a longer more detailed writeup for people who have a particular interest in that event.
My laptop screen is so tiny - could the birthdays be ABOVE the daily events?
This is a little off the subject, but yes you can organize your home screen in any order you like, including moving where the birthdays appear.
If you need help finding the link, or figuring out the ins and outs, the DG forum would be a good place for help ;o)
Carrie, you can go into your preferences and arrange your home page any way you want!!
Ooops, I didn't realize the history feature would appear in there! Duh! Thanks.
I have enjoyed it very much. I'm NOT a big history buff, just interested in the little facts that come out of these tidbits of information about the people and places in gardening history, which are nicely done on the home page. I like the idea of a more link as ecrane suggests.
I, too, am not big on history but enjoy checking out this feature daily. Good job!
I changed my home page (my info - preferences - customize home page) and now everything's fabulous; thanks for doing this!
I'd like to see links to more info. if you have it for that particular blurb.
Juneybug, that's a good suggestion. I'm happy to report that we now have a lot more links--I think you'll find that most of the references to plants, gardens, and books will now have a link to more information.
Just wanted to say Thank You again for this feature. We discuss quite a few on different Forums and alot of members are particularly interested to know about the state plants, vegetables and fruits. I particularly like the oddball ones like todays on the dark mid day in New England. It's fun to speculate on what caused it ^_^
That's truly heartening to hear--thanks for letting us know!
I can say it was truly a fun project to work on (hopefully Melody feels the same way, since I roped her into helping *grin*)...from time to time, our job involves a lot of technical research and fact-checking, but this was by far the most fun project of its kind I've been involved with.
(The garden quotes project was also pretty interesting: http://davesgarden.com/gq/ )
Me again ^_^ How bout a poll on the garden history items? Like this:
Question could be:
I Read the Garden History Items because:
1) It's totally fabby and would never miss it
2) I only read it now and then cuz too many deaths/birth and not enough info on interesting stuff like giant snowflakes
3) I read it because it has links to Plant files
4) I read it but I wish there was a link to discuss the item (especially if it was about giant snowflakes)
5) What are Garden History Items (duh!)
You get my drift. Of course it would have to be formalized but I think it would be a good poll!!!!
O and a choice on the flowers, fruits, birds and bugs like:
5) I read it to learn about trees, flowers, fruits, birds and insects that have been officially adopted by governments as recognized emblems.
How cool is that to capture all the international members too ^_^ I made this 5 cuz the duh! answer should be at the end.
It is a wonderful idea and thank you for suggesting it! I'll get something typed up and on the list.
I think somewhere there should be an option for members to suggest Garden History items as well...thinking on how to incorporate that into the poll too.
The question will run in the poll starting 7-13
Thanks for the great suggestion...
Dave has graciously given us a link to this forum now so that response is not necessary to list. He linked the forum to the bottom of the Daily History feature...Yaaay!!
Wonderful news about the poll! Thanks Dave for the link to the forum on our home page!
Dahlia, you're a genius, Dave, you're brilliant, and Melody, you're all-around fantastic.
You are ALL so responsive to the users on DG. I commend your entire staff for the great work in keeping the DG sites well-maintained and orderly and being responsive to us readers and users. I've only met Terry (another DG admin from TN), but kudos and hugs to all who work hard on these sites.
I just now noticed the link to this forum! I do enjoy reading them every day. I think it's important to give credit to all those who did such wonderful work to beautify our world. Thanks, admin!
This feature is WONDERFUL - I usually check it before anything else - often reading them to my hubby, who is not really into gardening....but, I am making some progress - has taken only 24 years...LOL
Thank you for the effort you take to provide this.
I would suggest that you include inventions and discoveries in the History section. Like the dates various biologists discovered various things that we use all the time. There should be some interesting history around the discoveries, by Europeans, of tulips and irises -- in Turkey. The dates Darwin did various things. The dates when Mendel discovered inheritance, the date of the discovery of DNA. etc. etc.
I would enjoy that more than the dates various botanists died. What day did they make an important contribution? That would be more interesting to me. How about the date various apple varieties were introduced -- the old ones, by Etter, etc.
How about the invention of the pluot?
The importation of the dahlia?
I have been thinking about your question. Will let you know if I come up with anything else.
How about the naming of the Poinsetta and its introduction to the world.
Good suggestions. If you know of any sources that list the dates (not just the years) of those types of discoveries or introductions, we'd love to know what they are. We continue to add new dates to the Garden History, but in many cases, verifiable, specific dates are not readily available.
Here's a recent case in point. The 'Chicago Peace' rose, a sport of the 'Peace' rose, is claimed by the Cantigny Gardens to have been discovered in their garden in 1967: http://www.cantigny.org/gardens/explore/rose_garden.aspx
I thought that would make for an interesting "day in history" tidbit. But when I began digging, I found the rose had been registered in 1962 (no actual date has come to light); the discrepancy on the years means if it was discovered at Cantigny, it wasn't even in the year their own website claims. We frequently encounter disappointing dead-ends like that, so if you have any tips or pointers on any sources of dates, we would be grateful for the pointers.
Yes, I understand. You might email them to see what the story is. Maybe you will learn it. Also, I realize that some facts are disputed. So I will forward any interesting tidbits I find.
Also some dates aren't even remembered but one can usually find introduction dates, especially on roses, irises and daylilies.
We have sent (and continue to send) out a fair number of email inquiries. some of them have panned out (for example, the date of the first Master Gardener classes was provided to us by someone willing to open the original, folder and look at the yellowed notes ;o)
Others--like the date the USDA introduced the zone maps--are more elusive. I double-checked the AIS database to make sure my recollection is correct: years of introduction are also easy to find, but not so easy are the actual dates. (If a plant is trademarked or patented, we can generally find that date.)
That said, we're not trying to make excuses for the paucity of some interesting historical information. The Garden History is a living, growing feature, and we'll continue to seek out items of interest. If anyone stumbles over any facts that we've missed, please do share them with us so we can add them to the lineup.
Will do. Yes, iris intros, only the year is listed. The intro date is the day the catalog went out or the web site was posted. Even the sellers may not remember that one. So much for that idea.
We've got the date that the first 'lawnmower' was patented and some other similar tidbits and a phone call got another date hammered down on Friday of something else. As Terry said, it is a living database and we do welcome any additions that you may have.
A bit of tangental garden history.
Tony Joe White, of Oak Grove, LA was Born July 23, 1943. He is probably most widely know for his song POKE SALAD ANNIE, one of the few songs about invasive garden plants. It was released in 1968 and topped the US charts in July 1969. Also, from the number of please ID me posts, Poke salat must be one of the most wide spread strange food weeds.
Maybe music about gardening, ETc could be included in the dailys, or even monthly misc. garden oriented list.