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Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 January 14, 2009 05:53 PM Post #6005916
| Now that the daily history has been up and running for a few weeks, what do you think?
Do you find the daily events interesting?
Would you like to see more details? (Or less)?
Would you like more interactivity with the feature?
(Perhaps the ability to "rate" or "vote" on the events, or the ability to launch into a discussion of a particular event, or links to more information...or something else?)
Share your opinions...we're listening ;o) |
carrielamont Milton, MA (Zone 6a)
January 14, 2009 06:13 PM Post #6006000
| Ability to check back on stuff - I remember you mentioned Landreth (was it 1/7?) but there's no way to go back and verify. |
dahlianut Calgary, AB (Zone 3a)
January 14, 2009 06:32 PM Post #6006081
| Terry I think a button to launch into a discussion each event is a great idea. |
Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 January 14, 2009 06:56 PM Post #6006142
| carrie, I can look that up for you, but I don't know if we'll make all the past information accessible, since it will reappear next year ;o)
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threegardeners North Augusta, ON (Zone 5a)
January 14, 2009 07:42 PM Post #6006318
| I vote for the button to discuss the event. I've been reading them...doesn't make me want to rush out and investigate further, but interesting enough to keep on my home page. |
dahlianut Calgary, AB (Zone 3a)
January 14, 2009 07:50 PM Post #6006338
| Me too threegardeners but I'm sure there will be items that get me going, like Antonio Jose Cavanilles birthday or Franciso Hernandez birthday. |
threegardeners North Augusta, ON (Zone 5a)
January 14, 2009 07:56 PM Post #6006369
| oh...and maybe a reminder at the top of the feature that there IS a forum to discuss the events? |
ecrane3 Dublin, CA (Zone 9a)
January 14, 2009 11:51 PM Post #6007212
| I really like the feature, I find it very interesting to read the history tidbits every morning. I would want to keep what's on the home page short so that it's easy to read quickly, but if there's something that you have a lot more detail on then maybe there could be a link to a longer more detailed writeup for people who have a particular interest in that event. |
carrielamont Milton, MA (Zone 6a)
January 15, 2009 12:44 PM Post #6008604
| My laptop screen is so tiny - could the birthdays be ABOVE the daily events? |
Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 January 15, 2009 12:45 PM Post #6008608
| This is a little off the subject, but yes you can organize your home screen in any order you like, including moving where the birthdays appear.
If you need help finding the link, or figuring out the ins and outs, the DG forum would be a good place for help ;o) |
threegardeners North Augusta, ON (Zone 5a)
January 15, 2009 12:45 PM Post #6008611
| Carrie, you can go into your preferences and arrange your home page any way you want!! |
carrielamont Milton, MA (Zone 6a)
January 15, 2009 05:08 PM Post #6009567
| Ooops, I didn't realize the history feature would appear in there! Duh! Thanks. |
OutsidePlaying Laceys Spring, AL (Zone 7a)
January 21, 2009 09:43 AM Post #6031374
| I have enjoyed it very much. I'm NOT a big history buff, just interested in the little facts that come out of these tidbits of information about the people and places in gardening history, which are nicely done on the home page. I like the idea of a more link as ecrane suggests. |
bjf826 (Barb) Quincy, FL (Zone 8b)
January 21, 2009 11:15 AM Post #6031720
| I, too, am not big on history but enjoy checking out this feature daily. Good job! |
carrielamont Milton, MA (Zone 6a)
January 21, 2009 06:20 PM Post #6033407
| I changed my home page (my info - preferences - customize home page) and now everything's fabulous; thanks for doing this! |
JuneyBug Dongducheon CpCasey South Korea (Zone 4b)
March 16, 2009 02:23 PM Post #6276061
| I'd like to see links to more info. if you have it for that particular blurb. |
Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 April 03, 2009 08:36 AM Post #6358485
| Juneybug, that's a good suggestion. I'm happy to report that we now have a lot more links--I think you'll find that most of the references to plants, gardens, and books will now have a link to more information. |
JuneyBug Dongducheon CpCasey South Korea (Zone 4b)
April 03, 2009 12:02 PM Post #6359316
| Wonderful! Thank you! |
Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 April 04, 2009 10:24 AM Post #6363055
| Thanks for suggesting it--it was a very good idea! |
dahlianut Calgary, AB (Zone 3a)
May 19, 2009 08:34 PM Post #6572102
| Just wanted to say Thank You again for this feature. We discuss quite a few on different Forums and alot of members are particularly interested to know about the state plants, vegetables and fruits. I particularly like the oddball ones like todays on the dark mid day in New England. It's fun to speculate on what caused it
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Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 May 20, 2009 11:19 AM Post #6574500
| That's truly heartening to hear--thanks for letting us know!
I can say it was truly a fun project to work on (hopefully Melody feels the same way, since I roped her into helping *grin*)...from time to time, our job involves a lot of technical research and fact-checking, but this was by far the most fun project of its kind I've been involved with.
(The garden quotes project was also pretty interesting: http://davesgarden.com/gq/ ) |
dahlianut Calgary, AB (Zone 3a)
June 17, 2009 12:35 AM Post #6699180
| Me again How bout a poll on the garden history items? Like this:
Question could be:
I Read the Garden History Items because:
1) It's totally fabby and would never miss it
2) I only read it now and then cuz too many deaths/birth and not enough info on interesting stuff like giant snowflakes
3) I read it because it has links to Plant files
4) I read it but I wish there was a link to discuss the item (especially if it was about giant snowflakes)
5) What are Garden History Items (duh!)
You get my drift. Of course it would have to be formalized but I think it would be a good poll!!!! |
dahlianut Calgary, AB (Zone 3a)
June 17, 2009 01:22 AM Post #6699333
| O and a choice on the flowers, fruits, birds and bugs like:
5) I read it to learn about trees, flowers, fruits, birds and insects that have been officially adopted by governments as recognized emblems.
How cool is that to capture all the international members too I made this 5 cuz the duh! answer should be at the end.
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melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 June 17, 2009 10:26 AM Post #6700320
| It is a wonderful idea and thank you for suggesting it! I'll get something typed up and on the list.
I think somewhere there should be an option for members to suggest Garden History items as well...thinking on how to incorporate that into the poll too.
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melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 June 17, 2009 11:28 AM Post #6700553
| The question will run in the poll starting 7-13
Thanks for the great suggestion...
Dave has graciously given us a link to this forum now so that response is not necessary to list. He linked the forum to the bottom of the Daily History feature...Yaaay!! |
dahlianut Calgary, AB (Zone 3a)
June 17, 2009 02:29 PM Post #6701354
| Wonderful news about the poll! Thanks Dave for the link to the forum on our home page! |
carrielamont Milton, MA (Zone 6a)
June 18, 2009 09:10 AM Post #6704865
| Dahlia, you're a genius, Dave, you're brilliant, and Melody, you're all-around fantastic. |
OutsidePlaying Laceys Spring, AL (Zone 7a)
June 18, 2009 10:40 AM Post #6705357
| You are ALL so responsive to the users on DG. I commend your entire staff for the great work in keeping the DG sites well-maintained and orderly and being responsive to us readers and users. I've only met Terry (another DG admin from TN), but kudos and hugs to all who work hard on these sites. |
KyWoods Melbourne, KY (Zone 6a)
June 30, 2009 12:50 AM Post #6757233
| I just now noticed the link to this forum! I do enjoy reading them every day. I think it's important to give credit to all those who did such wonderful work to beautify our world. Thanks, admin! |
jrwbirds Elberfeld, IN (Zone 6a)
July 03, 2009 09:41 AM Post #6772108
| This feature is WONDERFUL - I usually check it before anything else - often reading them to my hubby, who is not really into gardening...but, I am making some progress - has taken only 24 years...LOL
Thank you for the effort you take to provide this. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 25, 2009 01:59 PM Post #6863816
| I would suggest that you include inventions and discoveries in the History section. Like the dates various biologists discovered various things that we use all the time. There should be some interesting history around the discoveries, by Europeans, of tulips and irises -- in Turkey. The dates Darwin did various things. The dates when Mendel discovered inheritance, the date of the discovery of DNA. etc. etc.
I would enjoy that more than the dates various botanists died. What day did they make an important contribution? That would be more interesting to me. How about the date various apple varieties were introduced -- the old ones, by Etter, etc.
How about the invention of the pluot?
The importation of the dahlia?
I have been thinking about your question. Will let you know if I come up with anything else.
How about the naming of the Poinsetta and its introduction to the world. |
Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 July 25, 2009 02:37 PM Post #6863935
| Good suggestions. If you know of any sources that list the dates (not just the years) of those types of discoveries or introductions, we'd love to know what they are. We continue to add new dates to the Garden History, but in many cases, verifiable, specific dates are not readily available.
Here's a recent case in point. The 'Chicago Peace' rose, a sport of the 'Peace' rose, is claimed by the Cantigny Gardens to have been discovered in their garden in 1967: http://www.cantigny.org/gardens/explore/rose_garden.aspx
I thought that would make for an interesting "day in history" tidbit. But when I began digging, I found the rose had been registered in 1962 (no actual date has come to light); the discrepancy on the years means if it was discovered at Cantigny, it wasn't even in the year their own website claims. We frequently encounter disappointing dead-ends like that, so if you have any tips or pointers on any sources of dates, we would be grateful for the pointers. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 25, 2009 03:08 PM Post #6864021
| Yes, I understand. You might email them to see what the story is. Maybe you will learn it. Also, I realize that some facts are disputed. So I will forward any interesting tidbits I find.
Also some dates aren't even remembered but one can usually find introduction dates, especially on roses, irises and daylilies. |
Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 July 25, 2009 04:22 PM Post #6864211
| We have sent (and continue to send) out a fair number of email inquiries. some of them have panned out (for example, the date of the first Master Gardener classes was provided to us by someone willing to open the original, folder and look at the yellowed notes ;o)
Others--like the date the USDA introduced the zone maps--are more elusive. I double-checked the AIS database to make sure my recollection is correct: years of introduction are also easy to find, but not so easy are the actual dates. (If a plant is trademarked or patented, we can generally find that date.)
That said, we're not trying to make excuses for the paucity of some interesting historical information. The Garden History is a living, growing feature, and we'll continue to seek out items of interest. If anyone stumbles over any facts that we've missed, please do share them with us so we can add them to the lineup. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 25, 2009 04:32 PM Post #6864234
| Will do. Yes, iris intros, only the year is listed. The intro date is the day the catalog went out or the web site was posted. Even the sellers may not remember that one. So much for that idea. |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 July 26, 2009 10:19 AM Post #6866798
| We've got the date that the first 'lawnmower' was patented and some other similar tidbits and a phone call got another date hammered down on Friday of something else. As Terry said, it is a living database and we do welcome any additions that you may have. |
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
July 27, 2009 07:21 PM Post #6872938
| A bit of tangental garden history.
Tony Joe White, of Oak Grove, LA was Born July 23, 1943. He is probably most widely know for his song POKE SALAD ANNIE, one of the few songs about invasive garden plants. It was released in 1968 and topped the US charts in July 1969. Also, from the number of please ID me posts, Poke salat must be one of the most wide spread strange food weeds.
Maybe music about gardening, ETc could be included in the dailys, or even monthly misc. garden oriented list. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 27, 2009 07:37 PM Post #6872996
| Yes, something about the old rock song Poison Ivy! |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 July 27, 2009 07:39 PM Post #6873006
| Well, I can tell ya'll are just about my age... |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 27, 2009 07:40 PM Post #6873010
| Yep, no doubt about that! |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 July 27, 2009 07:43 PM Post #6873027
| If you're Going to San Francisco...be sure to wear flowers in your hair... |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 27, 2009 07:48 PM Post #6873042
| Yeah, flowers! Remember Tiptoe through the Tulips with Tiny Tim and Janis Jopin's The Rose? |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 July 27, 2009 07:52 PM Post #6873058
| We could start a whole trivia feature on gardening and garden songs...(Bette Midler did The Rose) |
jrwbirds Elberfeld, IN (Zone 6a)
July 27, 2009 08:07 PM Post #6873105
| Melody - great idea !! |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 27, 2009 08:16 PM Post #6873131
| Yes, but Janis Jopin did it first and the movie, The Rose, was the story of Janis Jopin's life. I may be showing my age here. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 27, 2009 08:16 PM Post #6873136
| This is kind of fun, isn't it! |
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
July 27, 2009 09:49 PM Post #6873467
| Gee, I am so glad to run into other obscure trivia buffs. It can go back even further...the childhood "Found a peanut" or the popular "Don't sit under the appletree" "Green, Green Grass of Home", or" America the Beautiful"
What do ya think Melody? You say tomato, I say tomahto?, or Yes we have no bananas.
Jean
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Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 July 27, 2009 10:08 PM Post #6873546
| And then there's the ever-popular "I'm a lonely little petunia in an onion patch" ;o)
Now more seriously, can anyone find information on what were the Billboard top songs of July/August 1969? I found information where "Poke Salad Annie" made #8 in early August, but no date when that list appeared. |
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
July 27, 2009 11:38 PM Post #6873963
| Melody, try this one: http://www.recordresearch.com/billboard_chart or this one
http://www.longboredsurfer.com/charts.php?year==1969 |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 28, 2009 12:31 AM Post #6874107
| I began looking up specific trivia on plants and I see what you mean about finding dates of events. But the year alone should be good enough. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 28, 2009 12:35 AM Post #6874117
| How is this one from Wikipedia on Ralph Randles Stewart. I bet nobody ever heard of him:
In 1960, when Dr. Stewart retired at the age of 70 years, he gave his collection of over 50 thousand plant specimens, now called the Stewart Collection, to Professor E. Nasir at Gordon College (Rawalpindi). The Stewart Collection has now been deposited in the National Herbarium of the Government of Pakistan at Islamabad thus leaving a very rich heritage for the students of plant sciences.
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Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 July 28, 2009 09:02 AM Post #6874873
| We need an actual date to add an item and have it appear on the anniversary date ;o) |
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
July 28, 2009 09:34 AM Post #6874984
| BillBoard Top 100 lists were released weekly, On Monday mornings if I remember correctly. I included a couple links for info. |
dahlianut Calgary, AB (Zone 3a)
July 28, 2009 10:31 AM Post #6875176
| Here is the history of 'Scarborough Fair'. The fair started on August 15th every year according to this link. Although there is no year, maybe it could just be posted as 'Medieval Times'? http://www.geocities.com/paris/villa/3895/#a2 |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 28, 2009 10:51 AM Post #6875251
| Why do you need the actual date? You don't usually mention it. |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 July 28, 2009 11:03 AM Post #6875324
| Each piece of history is set to run on the exact date that it happened. We have a calendar that we fill in with items. The date that an item runs, is the exact date that the event took place. Without an exact date to 'plug in' we cannot add an item to the calendar. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 28, 2009 11:05 AM Post #6875332
| Oh, too bad. If I find any exact date items I will send them to you. But that does make it harder. |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 July 28, 2009 11:07 AM Post #6875347
| Believe me, we know. There are all sorts of wonderful items that we found, but without an exact date, they are useless. |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 July 28, 2009 05:35 PM Post #6876872
| I found a way to add Scarborough Fair...look for it later this Fall. I also have the date that Elvis recorded Polk Salad Annie, but being a 'purist' I would prefer the TJW date instead of the Elvis cover. (as that was 'Vegas Elvis') I know that the TJW original hit the top 100 in July of '68 and was released 9 months earlier, but alas, no date...we may use his birthday...(he wrote Rainy Night in Georgia as well) |
Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 July 28, 2009 05:44 PM Post #6876904
| All I found was that it hit #8 in "early August" 1969 (?) |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 July 28, 2009 05:49 PM Post #6876922
| I get conflicting reports of '68 and '69. At the moment I'm in the '68 camp, but could be pushed back to the other side. I'll call my sis...she owns a music store and specializes in hard to find recordings. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 28, 2009 06:13 PM Post #6877019
| By the way, I looked up the song "The Rose" and it was written by Amanda McBroom and sung by Bette Middler. Janis died in 1970 so she obviously didn't ever sing The Rose. So, my apologies. I was absolutely sure I was right, but I was wrong. |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 July 28, 2009 06:14 PM Post #6877021
| According to Monument Records, the album, Black and White was released in June of 1969. The song was released as a single a year earlier...thus the conflicting dates...Still do not have an actual day. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 28, 2009 06:19 PM Post #6877041
| Hmmm. Your sister owns a music store and your name is Melody. Were your parents musicians or would be musicians? |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 July 28, 2009 06:28 PM Post #6877095
| Nope...but it was sort of connected with music.
My name came about in kinda odd way...seemed I arrived a bit earlier than anticipated and no name had been chosen. Dad wanted to name me Pansy...Mom had to come up with something quick...and she had just seen the musical 'Oklahoma' one of the lead actresses in the show was named Melody...so... |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 28, 2009 06:31 PM Post #6877111
| I think Pansy would have been cute, but it might have made Junior High tough. Melody is much nicer. |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 July 28, 2009 06:35 PM Post #6877130
| I thank Mom for her vision of the future every time I think about it. |
dahlianut Calgary, AB (Zone 3a)
July 29, 2009 12:51 AM Post #6878705
| Now that is a DG history item. Seriously I think we should have DG history in the items. There are many new members and DG history is very important to all of us so I think it should be included. ps Please try to find something where Dave is wearing the amaranthus on his head. I just luv that pic  |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 29, 2009 01:45 AM Post #6878812
| I haven't seen that one. Can someone give me a link. In fact, I have never seen a picture of Dave with or without an amaranthus. Yes, the founding of Dave's Garden should definitely be on the history list -- before Dave forgets the date it started! |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 29, 2009 01:53 AM Post #6878821
| The introduction of the potato was very good. That is a very important event in the history of the Europe and Asia. |
themoonhowl Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
July 29, 2009 03:01 AM Post #6878899
| Especially to the Irish. It became a major food crop for Ireland. In the 1800's when the potato blight struck Europe, thousands of Irish poorfolks died of starvation. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 29, 2009 11:06 AM Post #6879869
| Absolutely true. And the potato famine was at the root of a large diaspora of Irish people which has affect a great many countries. A simple plant has this power. No wonder we are interested in gardening.
Let's not forget what the tulip did to the Netherlands when the Dutch "discovered" it in Turkey -- the Turks had known about it for centuries. After that there was a major "tulip bubble" in the European economy. There ought to be some useful dates there. |
Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 July 29, 2009 11:10 AM Post #6879881
| We have a few references to tulipomania. Also watch for August 19..there will be some *memorable* links in one of those entries ;o) |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 29, 2009 11:15 AM Post #6879906
| Good. Are you all the people who published the reference to the huge wind that knocked down all the trees in the Boundary area of US and Canada? I thought it was fascinating. That kind of thing is definitely appropriate and somehow I had never heard of it. If I didn't read it here in DG, it should definitely be included. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
July 29, 2009 12:33 PM Post #6880287
| Here is the story of a giant forest fire started by the Federal Government on May 4, 2000. It got out of hand and destroyed 48,000 acres and cost the US Government over 1 billion dollars. It came close to burning Plutonium facilities at Los Alamos National Laboratory, but luckily did not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerro_Grande_Fire |
Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 July 29, 2009 01:43 PM Post #6880572
| Thanks-we've added both the Cerro Grande forest fire and the July 4 1999 storm in the BWCA. |
dahlianut Calgary, AB (Zone 3a)
July 29, 2009 01:58 PM Post #6880616
| I have a question. If you miss a day's items how can you go back and catch up? They aren't in the newsletter. |
Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 July 29, 2009 02:07 PM Post #6880647
| They only appear that day, and then disappear until they roll around again next year. We can look up a specific item if you really need/want to know something ;o) |
dahlianut Calgary, AB (Zone 3a)
July 29, 2009 02:27 PM Post #6880744
| No worries Terry. I will catch them next year. |
MaryE Baker City, OR (Zone 5b)
August 02, 2009 12:27 AM Post #6896439
| I see that the emphasis has changed from the dates those famous botanists died to the date they were born. Very good! |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 August 02, 2009 08:39 AM Post #6896985
| The other dates are still there...we just happen to be having a run on the birthdays. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
August 02, 2009 09:12 AM Post #6897065
| Well. at least we have a little birth to balance out the death! |
KyWoods Melbourne, KY (Zone 6a)
August 04, 2009 09:22 PM Post #6908205
| Who was John Tradescant? His birthday and his father is mentioned today, but nothing about who they were or what they did. |
melody Benton, KY (Zone 7a)
 August 04, 2009 09:25 PM Post #6908225
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tradescant_the_elder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tradescant_the_younger
Here you go. |
KyWoods Melbourne, KY (Zone 6a)
August 04, 2009 09:30 PM Post #6908244
| I did look him up right after I posted, and found those, thanks! I just thought maybe something should be put in the blurb, like "botanist", but I guess we could assume that. It's kinda late for my suggestion now, though, lol.
I'm thinking one of them has the spiderworts named after him? PlantFiles" target="_dgnew">http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/search.php?q=tradescantia&S...
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Hemophobic Kannapolis, NC
August 05, 2009 07:37 AM Post #6909507
| Terry: On today's (8/5/09) articles, Henry David Thoreau's name is mispelled, so please, please correct that! Very first article, too, the one about picking sand cherries on Walden Pond.
Angie |
Terry Murfreesboro, TN (Zone 7a)
 August 05, 2009 08:19 AM Post #6909606
| I caught it as soon as I read it...looks like somebody's spell-checker made a bad suggestion! Thanks--it's been fixed. |
Hemophobic Kannapolis, NC
August 05, 2009 12:42 PM Post #6910555
| KYwoods: The species Tradescantia is named after these two gardeners and Philippa Gregory has written two excellent novels based on their lives: The Virgin Earth and Earthly Joys, if you care to learn more about them.
Angie |
KyWoods Melbourne, KY (Zone 6a)
August 05, 2009 02:48 PM Post #6910995
| Thanks, Angie, very interesting! We have lots of those plants, wild and cultivated, and love them. |
pajaritomt Los Alamos, NM (Zone 5a)
August 05, 2009 04:14 PM Post #6911324
| I am going to have to read the books about them. |
Hemophobic Kannapolis, NC
August 05, 2009 05:57 PM Post #6911654
| Be prepared for some unsettling information. I'll say no more! But I did enjoy the books as they gave me some insight into their lives and the history of the period.
Angie |
KyWoods Melbourne, KY (Zone 6a)
August 05, 2009 08:12 PM Post #6912118
| Cooool! Glad I asked--now I really can't wait to read them! |