Phil may have seen his shadow, but General Beauregard Lee of Georgia did not! I'll go with the General... http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/ Click on the "Groundhog Day, spring to come early in Georgia" link under the displayed video.
Of course the sun had to shine today so this groundhog saw his shadow. Luckily I don't pay any attention to such "goings on". When it gets warm and stays warm, spring will be here. I am so cold natured that it can be a beautiful day and I am still cold. Good weather for the roses, tho. I need to get out there and throw out some fertilizer. Surely we are going to get some rain (?) soon.
It was hard to choose an answer -- it's been alternating three days of winter and four days of spring, over and over and over, here since November! I don't mind winter but my plants are so confused I don't know whether they'll do well or not.
It was cloudy yesterday but sunny this morning. Got up too late to run out out and put a parasol over him. We'll have at least 6 more weeks here. Although we are currently having record day time highs and Very dry.
Sunny here today and a bit warmer. Now I get to clean up all the downed trees and limbs from last weeks ice storm and pray it didn't damage my precious plants! Looks like a bomb went off on the hillside behind the house...
Jimmy the Groundhog from Sun Prairie, WI, who has an accuracy record of 80%, saw his shadow this morning. I believe him the way this winter has gone so far. It's like there is no end in sight. But we're getting closer every day!
Well, my daffodils think it's spring - they're already open, despite our nasty ice storm last week. This winter has been a real rollercoaster ride around DFW. Up to 70 one day, then 40 the next. So maybe it's...Sprinter? Wing? Hmmm...
We've been having our typical "false Spring" with a dry and sunny January. Good for getting the Apricot trees to bloom so the next frost can kill the blossoms. If normal holds we'll get some wet, cold, and windy weather soon.
I'll never understand how we all can have the same Groundhog Day when spring definitely arrives earlier in some areas no matter what. I find it funky weird that they would say that there could be 6 more weeks of winter in FL or TX, for example. IMHO if you have daffs you're there!!!!! I just KNEW the Texas Spring Bulbous Show was ready to burst open any day
Spring is relative. In Phoenix, for example, it means that the end of nice weather is coming soon and unbearably hot weather is on the way. You wouldn't look for Crocus there either, although I'm not sure which desert wildflower would be the most suitable replacement.
We don't have groundhogs so no groundhog sees his shadow here. Yet I don't think East Coast Groundhogs can possibly predict weather in the west. So does the lack of ground hogs out here mean that we won't have spring? I checked the first one because there was nothing relative to life in New Mexico.
As defined in Wikipedia, the groundhog (Marmota monax), also known as the woodchuck, land beaver or whistlepig, is a rodent of the family Sciuridae, belonging to the group of large ground squirrels known as marmots.
Watching Phil's handlers trying to coax it out of its house without getting their fingers chewed off was quite interesting. Why do they need a groundhog anyway? The officials needed only to look down at the ground and see if they cast a shadow: no fuss, no muss.
This being said, I find it difficult to believe that a common field rodent has the gift of meteorological prophecy. But then, I feel the same way about the weather people on TV.
Well, I hear that the whole Groundhog Seeing His Shadow thing is only 37% accurate anyway!
Here's a funny for ya - 4 yo boy says it's Ground Hog day, so it's a day to have pork sausages LOL
Our pastor said his son told him that one year, and it's now a tradition in their house to have pork sausages on Groundhog's Day lol
That's a very important point Sylvain. As far as I understand it Ground Hog Day is not covered under the Geneva Convention so there is no rule that we actually have to follow. Spring has sprung here and I'm going with the flow. Now if only all the snow would get with the program... I agree CajuninKY. Varmits and not even cute varmits IMHO.
Well, I voted that it is alread spring here although he did see his shadow here.. my rose bushes are already growing, temps have been in the 60's and 70's quite a few times already.. I have hyacinths already blooming and many other spring bulbs already growing.. I am sure we will still have lots of freezing temps at night .. but days are like spring.
But you don't need a groundhog to do your 2/2 forecasting.
Groundhog Day is an annual holiday celebrated on February 2 in the United States and Canada on which folklore tells if a groundhog emerges from its burrow and fails to see its shadow because the weather is cloudy, winter will soon end. If on the other hand, it is sunny and the groundhog sees its shadow, the groundhog will supposedly retreat into its burrow, and winter will continue for six more weeks. The holiday, which began as a Pennsylvania German custom in southeastern and central Pennsylvania in the 18th and 19th centuries, has its origins in ancient European weather lore, wherein a badger or sacred bear is the prognosticator as opposed to a groundhog. The holiday also bears some similarities to the medieval Catholic holiday of Candlemas It also bears similarities to the Pagan festival of Imbolc, the seasonal turning point of the Celtic year, which is celebrated on February 1 and also involves weather prognostication.
Modern customs of the holiday involve celebrations where early morning festivals are held to watch the groundhog emerging from its burrow. In southeastern Pennsylvania, Groundhog Lodges (Grundsow Lodges) celebrate the holiday with fersommlinge, social events in which food is served, speeches are made, and one or more g'spiel (plays or skits) are performed for entertainment. The Pennsylvania German dialect is the only language spoken at the event, and those who speak English pay a penalty, usually in the form of a nickel, dime or quarter, per word spoken, put into a bowl in the center of the table.
The largest Groundhog Day celebration is held in Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania, where crowds as high as 40,000 have gathered to celebrate the holiday since at least 1886. Other celebrations of note in Pennsylvania take place in Quarryville in Lancaster County, the Anthracite Region of Schuylkill County, the Sinnamahoning Valley and Bucks County. Outside of Pennsylvania, notable celebrations occur in the Frederick and Hagerstown areas of Maryland, the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia and among the Amish populations of over twenty states and Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day
And here's the info on Imbolc:
Imbolc is traditionally a time of weather prognostication, and the old tradition of watching to see if serpents or badgers came from their winter dens is perhaps a precursor to the North American Groundhog Day. A Scottish Gaelic proverb about the day is:
Thig an nathair as an toll
La donn Bride,
Ged robh tri traighean dh’ an t-sneachd
Air leachd an lair.
"The serpent will come from the hole
On the brown Day of Bride,
Though there should be three feet of snow
On the flat surface of the ground."  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbolc
In the United Kingdom, good weather at Candlemas is taken to indicate severe winter weather later: "If Candlemas Day is clear and bright, / winter will have another bite. / If Candlemas Day brings cloud and rain, / winter is gone and will not come again.". It is also alleged to be the date that bears emerge from hibernation to inspect the weather as well as wolves, who if they choose to return to their lairs on this day is interpreted as meaning severe weather will continue for another forty days at least. In the United States and Canada, Candlemas evolved into Groundhog Day celebrated on the same date.
The Carmina Gadelica, a seminal collection of Scottish folklore, refers to a serpent coming out of the mound on Latha Fheill Bride, as the Scots call Candlemas. This rhyme is still used in the West Highlands and Hebrides.
Moch maduinn Bhride, Thig an nimhir as an toll; Cha bhoin mise ris an nimhir, Cha bhoin an nimhir rium.
(Early on Bride's morn, the serpent will come from the hollow I will not molest the serpent, nor will the serpent molest me)
Thig an nathair as an toll, la donn Bride Ged robh tri traighean dh' an t-sneachd air leachd an lair.
(The serpent will come from the hollow on the brown day of Bride Though there should be three feet of snow on the flat surface of the ground) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candlemas
I think spring has sprung here in the high desert of Arizona, we are getting close to the 70 mark in the daytime.. I almost dred March here as we get our spring rains and where I live it will flood so bad sometimes I will not be able to get to work and have to move the horses to higher ground. The area they are in is in a lower section of the ranch, and I will useally move them into the arena for weeks at a time...
I think weather lore is fascinating. There has to be some reason, other than believing in magic, that our ancestors came up with these tidbits. We know some really are rooted in fact, such as red sky at night, sailor's delight - red sky at morning, sailors take warning.
"Red sky at night, sailors delight.
When we see a red sky at night, this means that the setting sun is sending its light through a high concentration of dust particles. This usually indicates high pressure and stable air coming in from the west. Basically good weather will follow.
Red sky in morning, sailor’s warning.
A red sunrise reflects the dust particles of a system that has just passed from the west. This indicates that a storm system may be moving to the east. If the morning sky is a deep fiery red, it means a high water content in the atmosphere. So, rain is on its way."
There's another bit of weather lore that says if it rains on Easter day it will rain for the next seven Sundays. I kept count a couple of years ago when it rained here on Easter day and, sure enough, it rained for the next seven Sundays but not on the eighth.
I don't know why all the hoopla about a fat little rodent. Feb. 2nd there is always another 6 weeks of winter weather, With Mar 20 usually the first day of the calendar spring is still 7 weeks away. Very few times that there wasn't a cold blast or a good snow right after March 20th.
If he had anything to do with the winter lasting that long around here he would be shot. LOL
For 364 days of the year some gardeners here take careful rifle aim at the weather prognosticating rodent. But on this one day, he is courted like a king. It's fun. However, everyone in these parts knows that winter weather doesn't relent until late March. Worse, in some years winter returns in mid April to wreck early blooming trees and shrubs. The Great April Freeze of 2007 won't be soon forgotten.
In addition to the "red sky" saying, my mom always said "Mackerel sky, three days dry". This is when the clouds take on a stuttered, scaly look like a fish (or specifically, I guess, a mackerel). I've found it to usually be a true prediction as well.
Actually, that's not the saying. Using clouds to forecast weather is actually pretty accurate. Mackerel sky predicts rain in the near future, not dry.
Here's the info on the mackerel sky saying:
"Mare's tails and Mackerel scales make tall ships wear short sails." The mare's tails were the wispy cirrus clouds, feathery trails of ice crystals. The mackerel scales were cirrocumulus, clouds that look like fish scales. Both these clouds mark the lead edge of a frontal system that probably carries strong winds and heavy rain. Sailors reef or shorten their sails in strong winds. Grandpa had a corollary to this 'saying' if only one cloud type was present: "Mares tales, storms and gales" or "Mackerel sky, not 24 hours dry." http://www.geocities.com/bill_fiero/weather.htm
The occurrence of cirrocumulus clouds indicates the distant presence of a convergent zone such as a pressure tough or a cyclone in lower levels; or a frontal zone where cold air meets moist warm air. Vigorous convection and lifting motion bring water vapour up in the sky where the water vapour sublimes into ice crystals, forming the high clouds. Under the influence of atmospheric waves which are often present at high altitudes, the clouds line themselves up and move with the upper level winds, forming the cirrocumulus clouds having a fish-scale appearance.
'Mackerel sky, not twenty-four hours dry' describes the deterioration of weather after the appearance of cirrocumulus clouds. Although it may be bright at the beginning, the weather will deteriorate in half a day's time as the cyclone or front approaches. As they pick up more moisture, the cirrocumulus clouds thicken and extend downward to become low-level clouds which bear rain.
Observation of cloud change is an important tool in weather forecasting. The folklore of 'Mackerel sky, not twenty-four hours dry' reflects the experience and wisdom passed down by people over the years.
Red sky at night, sailors delight...red sky in morning, sailors take warning.
I've always known a little different version from the one posted previously. I've always heard the meaning to be that red sky at night meant the next day would be windy, and sailors love wind to catch the sails and move them along. (But then, this is windy North Dakota, so the folklore may be biased)
At any rate, I don't trust the groundhog anymore than I do the weathermen on TV. I judge time until spring by when the nighttime temperatures start to rise in a consistent manner without any major setbacks... and the calendar. :) But I still keep a box of blankets by the patio door for emergencies until at least the middle of June.
There are various versions of all of these, Snapple. You just left out a word. Sinuses are probably more accurate than anything. LOL I don't know how many times I've said, and been right, "I don't care what the weatherman says. It (is/isn't) going to snow because I (am/am not) having one of my snow headaches."
I am so ready for spring. It was so cold here today! At least we have been blessed with just cold and windy conditions and no snow or ice thus far. My prayers go out to all the folks in Kentucky and other places that are really suffering.
It's supposed to be in the 60s on Saturday and Sunday, and will probably be even warmer than here for you Tidewater folks, FlipFlops.
I'm not sure exactly how cold it got last night but it was 10 degrees when I went to bed last night. Quite a difference from what's expected this weekend. Hopefully this warm weather is heading for the people in Kentucky and other places where it's so cold.
Hey Texas...send real estate catalogs...although I am hedging on the humidity in summer. You guys get awful steamy!
Embarrassed to say, Illinois..and I have seen it snow in MAY. Um...as far as that thar groundsquirrel...many parts are edible, though I have never tried. I already have busted pipes from the beginnings of the so called spring thaw. Twas 20 below just a short while ago. Today, um, 47 I think was the high. Regarding winter...beam me up Scottie...get me out of here!
Heretell, Oklahoma is seeing upper 70's today.. they too can send real estate catalogs!! Looking for something cheap in horse/cattle country! The DH seems to like it there.
A word about our Texas humidity...Everything is air conditioned here. I can cool off a heck of a lot easier than I can warm up! I know that people up north think that 5 above is a warming trend. NOT FOR ME!
Annette - 5 above in the middle of winter here is a warming trend! 32 above feels colder due to the thaw and dampness! Even below zero feels better becaue it is a dry cold.
Im one of those not big on air conditioning either.. but freezing to death vs heat stroke...hmmmm send me a real estate catalog!! Im with you girl!
They can go ahead and turn my AC off for all I care I will be happy to play under a garden hose, but mess with the heat in the winter...no thanks. Now about those homes on stilts???!!! Been down there and seen afew of those!
Blossom - There are plenty of places around here that don't need stilts. I don't like stairs. A few steps are ok, but lugging groceries up a flight is out of the question, for me. Since back surgery, I can barely drag my garden cart across the flat yard!!!...It's better, but not 100% yet.
By the way, it's a beautiful day! I just came in to take a little break. I've been digging in the dirt! It's wonderful!
Hey we had 65 today... no coat, opened the window to the house and it smelled like worms outside!! YIPPY.. sure sign of spring, but then by evening it was that awful burnt bisquit smell of winter...UGH..
My front yard greened up a wee tad, but the pasture is still brown.
I am pleased to report that General Beauregard Lee (GA's answer to P. Phil) at the Yellow River Game Ranch in Lilburn GA says winter is on the way out. WhhooHooo! I'm sooo ready. I think he's right, my first jonquil bloomed yesterday and it's 73 today. I'm not fooling myself, though; I know we will have some more freezing weather. After all, my persimmon seeds ALL had shovels. LOL.
Dontch all just love it when the seed paks say, something really brainy like >>> Sow three weeks before the last day of frost...
Like we all know EXACTLY WHAAAT day that is...
Can we hear a group GRUMBLE!! LOL!!
Our last day of frost one year is Feb 2, Next year is May 10... go figure! I once planted a ton of mum cuttings thinking that awww APRIL 19 was a good day.. So what do I do, I transplant my cuttings to 4" pots the day before and set them outside because well heck, the greenhouse just could not house them all and it was spring, the daffs had bloomed and then what happens..4 inches of hail and a toadtwister. Aint paradise fun!
They mean average last frost, which you can find by looking up info on your zone. If you get a later than average frost, either cover or bring inside. Seeds will be fine unless they've already sprouted. In fact, if it says to plant before last frost they probably need a little nip of cold to stimulate germination.
I know that, I was just trying to make it relative to the current weather in the last ten years...bbut with our weather here in the midwest, aint nothhing average about it anymore! Typically, April 19th was the day, but I have seen it snow in May on Mothers Day.. Then the last few years we have been getting 65 degrees in January which usually it wil lbe cold and 85 degree below zero feels like temps on the windchill index, then this year though the exception with all the snowcover and the clipper blast we just had sending us 20 below! Last year we had floods...
Been here 10 years... never had pipes freeze, this year...WHAAM! Ya just can never guess what is the "average" anymore wiht the way the weather bounces around.. I mean, come one now, look at those guys in Arizona now!! You got our typical weather for the midstates and that was not the case either years back.
So unless you are doing the controlled greenhouse thing, outdoor sowing is a shot in the dark.
It's been crazy here too but I think the weather is always crazy. I remember back in the early 70s it was way up in the 70s on Christmas day here. My new inlaws from upstate NY could not be convinced that wasn't normal weather because they figure it's in the south, it must be like Florida. Of course they also thought when they weren't looking I was prancing around in hoop skirts and sipping mint juleps from the veranda overlooking the cotton fields. LOL
It did go down below 0 here a few weeks ago, which I don't remember ever happening. The plumber who came out to see the pipes said it was the coldest in 14 years, so I guess it was this cold 14 years ago. Today it's almost 60. And, yes, the pipes froze but that's not that unusual in my old house either. Blame the dummies who didn't think about cold winters when they strung the water pipes through the unheated cellar and crawlspace.
Hart, it did get nice and warm in tidewater yesterday. The mercury climbed up to 75 degrees. I was happy as a pig in slop! It was a good mint julep day LOL About 20 degrees cooler here today but still nice at 55 and sunny. Suppose to warm back up tomorrow. Does this every February here. Then all the trees start budding out and the azaleas will think spring is finally here and WHAM it freezes again in March. Mother nature can really pull tricks on you. Went to the nursery yesterday to buy a few more pansies to fill in a couple of spots I missed last fall and you would think it was April by all the folks out buying stuff. Just too early!!
I've been caught by the first warm day buy plants now bug before. Virginia always has crazy springs so needless to say I've killed plants that way. LOL I had to learn it all over again after moving up to the mountains, where we can get really cold and really late cold snaps.
Pansies are so cheerful, especially after a cold winter, and it's nice to know there's something blooming you can't kill with late frosts. I saw some primroses at the store yesterday too. Isn't it nice to see color?
I am surprised by the nice weather this week. My birthday is this week and it seems like it always snows on my birthday. Maybe that's only when I have plans.
I for some reason thought it never snowed in Arizona, MissJestr, but I see your zone is 7 so obviously it does get cold enough there to snow.
Happy Birthday week 'Hart'. It usually snows on my birthday too, however it's in November and expected. As I look back over the 6+ decades temperatures on my BD have ranged from 0° to 70°. VA is a beautiful place. When taking trips down south we always try to get a stretch through some part of the state.
Thanks, Snapple. You sent us your wind, BTW. I was out in the yard a while ago and it about blew me into the next county. Just got a weather warning from weather.com too saying could be winds up to 60 mph tonight.
I've never been to Ohio but my SO's father was from Ohio. I understand you all are no slouches in the pretty countryside department either.
Your poor little boy, MissJ. I hope he has a sled or trashcan lid to replace the trike today.
I'll take your rain for a bit if you promise it will come down as rain. More possible flurrries tonight and snow forcasted for Wednesday.
Those pretty Easter dresses will be hidden by winter coats this year!
I am not so willing to give up my rain yet, but dang ya and curses to that derned rodent..., LOL! Now I got snow!
Todays weather.. 2 inches of snow on top of the 4 some odd inches of rain we have had all week! Its melting quickly, is heavy and wet.. so should not hurt too much.. I wouldl be more worried if it was a heavy ice storm again.
I wonder who will be on the tail of this thead for the so called last frost date for this year!
My "alleged" last date for the perverbial frost is the 19th of April... so ha! Two more weeks of anything goes.. thats the game, but I have seen it snow as late as May 10th... Mothers day. It can be snow one minute, rain the next, then sunny.. up and down so fast to make yoru head spin. Just when you think, aww put the shovel away.. its baaaack...
LOL! Hi Calgary! Some where in your neck of the woods lurks a stallion I used to own!!
So when does your growing season end? And what can you grow?
(Dontcha just hate that groundhog routine!! Course in your country, That could mean you do the ground hog thing on the later part of May!! So the next question begins, when do you start daylight savings time? LOL!)
Today I am back to sunny spring.. but more snow here is on the dawn.
Last frost date here is suppose to be April 15th (right around the corner), but it seems like it's getting colder each day instead of warmer!! Last frost date where I am moving to coastal GA is March 13th I believe.