I bought a whole bunch of trellises today at good old HD. They were cheap. That's why I bought a whole bunch. They are not works of art, but the clems cover them so fast, I can't rationalize spending much money on them as a supporting structure.
Beautiful, we are building a new trellis over part of the driveway this spring for my wisteria. I was outside yesterday as the weather is just beautiful and I was doing some work and looking around at exactly where I want the post to go. Man this thing is going to be huge.
On the left side, we have a Jackmanii clematis climbing up and on the right side, New Dawn climbing rose.
I made the template to cut out for the top and we used trellis bought from HD for the sides and top. It made for a nice afternoon project. I'd like to design another one this summer for the back walkway. There's one already there but it's abit flimsy(purchased it at a discount store about 4 years ago).
No they will come inside in October and reside in my livingroom and bathroom.
They are made of terrecotta clay, it is more porus than a high fired clay so it holds moisture. When freezing occurs it opens the walls of the piece and it cracks and shatters apart, very sad to see.
No alas I cant work with clay anymore, just too heavy.
You have to be strong and flexable to do sculpture.
They were made by a local woman.
I'm so lucky to live in an area where there are so many artists.
Do you have any art festivals in your area? We have one once a year in a local park. It's wonderful to walk through and see everyone's work. I try to save a little bit of money each week so I can pick something up when I'm there.
There are two festivals of some signifigence (sp)
Corn Hill in July and Clothesline in September.
Lots of artists ,not much original art.
Dont get me going on that topic.
There are more important shows in other parts of the country.Heavily juried and beautiful original work.
here is trellils #2, built 1 1/2 year ago. I am growing var. confederate jasmine on it but it is an area w/ very poor drainage so my first plant choice died. I figure it will take another 4 years to fill. Another DH construction.
here is some lattice stuck inside this rectagular planter and laced with min. climbing rose Red Cascade. Actually, I have two planters arranged in the same manner, but took pic of only one. My rose has been a stingy bloomer, I don't know why.
This is a pic of my silver lace vine- It grew in great profusion like this for about five years. I would prune it back to six feet about every other year (and fill a pickup truck with the brush) It was full of bird nests and looked like it was snowing when the wind blew through it when in full bloom. Then it just did not come back one spring... I was heartbroken! I have a friend who had the same thing happen the same year. An extra cold winter maybe?! I decided to try something different so replaced it with a porcelain berry vine. Prett,y but not nearly as spectacular. Unfortunately both were/are irresistable to Japanese Beetle. I spray with sevin and it literally rains beetles for hours!!
The silver lace vine is intriguing, mwhit, and so is the idea of beetle rain. Does anyone else use sevin on Japanese beetles? I remember when sevin would get rid of every pest, but I get rose curculio weevils now that just laugh at sevin.
thanks everyone, from me and my darling hubby. That wall was so harsh and it is a high traffic area in my subdivision. I used the jasmine 'cause I wanted green year round but also considered growing a flowering something for some color. However, that would make it harder to trim and since I have color nearby we opted for just the jasmine.
That has got to be the BIGGEST silver lace vine I've ever seen.
We are working on still another trellis thing. Tentatively, we will use PVC to make a round structure. The PVC is too stiff and flexible stuff is not weather resistant enough. Husband still thinking about this one, but we will have one.
Calif_Sue Northern California United States (Zone 9a)
My favorite trellis making material is a cattle panel. It is heavy duty enough to support just about any type of vine when bent but light enough for one person to carry around and put up and take down if needed pretty easily. There is a good pic of one at the top of the thread here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/539641/
What I did was bend quarter pieces of rebar into a candy can shape, hooked it onto the bottom edge of the cattle panel and pushed into the soil. Used about three per side. You cannot see the rebar and it comes right out of the ground if you decide to move the trellis. Had to have DH cut the rebar but was able to bend it myself (and I am not really that strong).
I am truely amazed. Thats a great idea.
Did you use some sort of vice to bend the rebar?
I love thet stuff. I use straight pieces to support trallises.
I pound it in next to the trellis leg and then use cableties to attach the trellis no bending, but I can definatly see where both systems would work.
also wondering if it would make it stronger to shape the rebar like a "U" rather than candy cane. tetley, is it windy in your area? somehow I can't imagine the arbor being steady with the candy cane or "U" bars, if it got over 20 mph. Unless the vine helps by weighing the structure down.
Just starting an arbor/bed, It's on a slight incline, So the arbor is at the top and the Step/Beds will be going downhill to the patio, I planted one Evergreen Clematis on one side allready and will be putting the other one in probably this weekend ( They are ármand' clematis) Still have to put some wire on the top of the arbor so that the vines can catch on good once they start growing. I stained the wood a dark brown Please excuse the backgroung, Just moved here not even 3 years ago and have to make all new improvements on the yard..But, I'm getting there...This is was taken ( The beginning) Feb 17th..
Feb 20th ..Just got the rest of the grass out coming downhill, Now I need to stain the wood and start putting the boards in coming downhill, The boards will go go straight across from one side of the arbor to the other all the way downhill, I plan on making beds out of them on both sides of the steps going up and having a walkway to walk up in the center of each step. The beds that you see part of to the right of the arbor are Daylily beds and there are 8 of them so far. ..
The silver lace vine grew like crazy (while it lasted) I think it only took about 2 years to get to that "fluffy" stage.
I just wish I knew what killed it - I'd really like to replace the porcelain berry vine with another silver lace!
As I said my best guess is Ohio weather- neither my friend nor I-both Master Gardeners- could find any sign of pest or disease to account for the sudden, complete death of such a well established plant.
The trellis itsself (the original subject of this thread) is of 4x4 posts with a 2x4 top frame and lattice inserts in about a 4 footx8 foot size. It is positioned over a paved area with a wooden swing hung underneath. It makes a nice shady spot to sit by the vegetable garden.
I have a similar one my husband constructed to disguise/ protect an unusual area in our yard.
We have a small "sunken patio" allowing outside walk-out access to our basement. The side wall of this patio only extended up about two feet and I was concerned that someone would tumble over the wall and into the patio so we built a very sturdy 4x4 trellis (with a slanted top rather than horizontal). It has two short legs which stand on the ground outside the low wall and two longer legs which stand in the patio. The top slants toward the short side and creates a slanted "roof" over part of the sunny patio (I have a bench under there where I sit to pot plants etc.). I have a wisteria which I trained to a modified tree form growing up just outside the low wall and vining out over this trellis. We need every bit of the strength of those 4x4 legs to hold this aggressive grower! I even climb up on it to stand and prune the wisteria to keep it from latching onto the sidewall of my house!! This trellis doesn't have the lattice inserts since the wisteria is such a heavy plant-just 2x4 cross pieces.
MW, Moles??? I had a nice Kousa Dogwood about 5 ft tall that I had grown from a small seedling. It was doing just fine and then started to dye. I took pics, branches and leaves to the Extension Office and they couldn't find anything either. Then in a DG discussion about Voles, Moles and other burrowers. Plus that I knew I had some brought me to the conclusion that they may had been my issue. Up until then I knew they would eat my bulbs and some of my perennials but didn't realize that they would/could damage something as large as big shrubs and small trees.
HollyAnnS, Good thought, but I dug up the rootball while replacing the vine and it didn't look damaged or diseased-just dead!! I couldn't find any particular issue the Silver Lace vine has with disease or pest but I know from sad experience that Ohio weather is tough on a lot of plants! I don't coddle my plants either- I dig a few (Canna, Dahlia) overwinter a few inside(pond tropicals, rosemary, lemon tree) and everyone else needs to get tough or die!! If I were a more cautious gardener more might survive but I find it easier to work pretty much within nature's boundaries- I know I'll never have some of the more tender beauties in my yard but ...where would I put them anyway!?!?
Good job JD, and Pirl should have guessed that. She is up late, and probably tired, LOL. (I just say she should have guessed as she sent them to me). But I bet she has delphs on the brain, thinking spring.
Thanks so much everyone for the birthday wishes and the beautiful photos!! pollyk, The photo might be a little big, But, It sure is Gorgeous, Wow!! All these nice photos make me think ...Garden, Garden, Garden!!! LOL!
ge1836 and HollyAnnS, Thankyou! Will keep you posted on the project. I have to build another bed before I can work more on this one because I have some plants coming in next weekend and need a bed to put them in and seeing as they are Daylilys, I want to make sure they will have enough sun, And there will be some shading where the arbor is so can't put them there, Will be getting right back to it though soon as the other beds done so I'll be updating when I do ... Thanks again!
Yes, I must admit the sunroom has been just wonderful this winter. It was a slow process, but worth it. It was my "retirement present" to myself. Here's a shot of the sitting/reading area of it. The cats love it too, especially on sunny days.
Actually, we have three cats, and I thought everyone would enjoy this pic of them waiting for me to join them in the morning sun. The top one is Amadeus, an abandoned kitten I found on the side of a country road. Jamoca, on the footstool is 14 and the grump of the three. And Charlie on the bottom was a stray who came to stay a couple of years ago. When Charlie showed up one day in the rain, he weighed under four pounds, was matted so badly he had to be shaved, and wouldn't come near anyone for almost a year except to eat in the garage, where he lived for a long time, scared to come in the house. Now, he's thoroughly domesticated, weighs 13 lbs. and sheds enough to stuff pillows! I call this photo "Stacked Cats".
Holly The cats think its their room. Your tabby looks like mine minus a few pounds.
We have three cats too. I have two Tabbies Ben and Jerry brothers 13 and My daughter has 1 Angel a grey tiger.
pollyk', In all actuality, I have them too, Just not near as many as my fav's the daylilys. You know, When I was first signing up to Daves ( Many moons ago) The name I wanted was actually longer and for some reason ( I forgot why) But, The original name I picked got cut in half and so I just left it that way at the time and it's been that way since, So now, Many people think that it's because I love Iris's that I picked that name, But, Thata not really how it is ...LOL!
My sister was baptized Photinia and it had nothing to do with the shrub. Her real name was Svetlana and that's the name of a pagan goddess and couldn't be used at a baptism, so they had to use the name of the saint associated with her birthday. Poor girl was born on St. Photinia's Day.
I love looking at everyones arbors and trellises. I need to add a new trellis this summer for a climbing rose by my garage. Here is a photo of one of the two arbors I have in my front yard. The other one is out of the photo on the left at the opposite end of the path. My brother made these for me from an old Wood Bench magazine pattern he had saved for years.
This is a photo from about 18 years ago. It's a silver lace vine growing on my garage. Guess it shows you can make a trellis about of about nothing. It is growing on wire strung from the top of the fence to the peak of the garage. Some hyacinth vines are showing also that were growing up the side of the garage.
The vines on the wood arbors above Jackmanii clematis.
Newer communities on Long Island do have them underground but we've heard their reply is that it would be too expensive. Ha! As if that matters to them! When they need more money they simply raise the rates.
That is very pretty but I would have been out there with my clippers. I drive by a spot along the road everyday where a honeysuckle has climbed up a cedar tree and is growing across the phone lines. I would love to get out and cut it back at the base. I worry about the damage it is doing to that tree and know that only a few clips would take care of it for several years to come.
Enjoyed the above posts! Seems most vines will pretty much climb just about anything!
JasperDale, Wow, Your Ladybanks is huge! .. I try to keep mine under control by constantly cutting it back after it flowers, but, It's not easy! They sure grow fast! I made the mistake of putting mine (2 of them) on a 'small' arbor, It's working out so far but don't know how long it will last! Heres a closeup of it blooming ..
Very pretty, I have been hitting a few local building shows and the Phila. Flower Shows. I've collected several pics of arbors. I'll start with these, not near as pretty as they would be with something growing on them but you might get some building ideas.
Iris: It's actually not big at all...when it isn't blooming, you wouldn't even know it's there, as the potato vine obscures it. I let the LB grow up through it and out over the top and into the tree. Then when it's done blooming, I cut all that off. It resprouts again about mid fall.
Zuzu has an enormous one. Maybe she'll see this and post a pic.
Holly: Great arbor with the seats. I've always wanted one like that but don't have the room. I really like the top details.
Me thinks you should buy it !
HollyAnnS, Like the arbors, Really like the last one, If you do buld one like it, think you will love it! I had one almost just like that back north and it was super strong, Could support pretty much anything!! I had 3 westerias, 2 trumpets and two grapevines on the one I had in the North, It was 'fully loaded" and had no problem supporting the weight!
JasperDale, It looked big to me in the photos ( Maybe it was the way the photo was taken) :) How low do you cut yours when you cut it back? and how big does your potatoe vine get? ..I never grew one and I'm really curious!
The potato vine grows really fast. If it gets too thick, I just shear it back and it fills in in no time.
I just cut the long shoots of the LB back to where they emerge from out of the potato vine. The potato vine in the photo is in full sun. I have another one in a northern location that never gets full sun and it does just fine...but it doesn't get anywhere near as thick as the other one...which is fine for where it is.
I think all the fancy ones are just beautifull, But, I've learned to love the 'plain rustic/worn' looking arbors, They just seem to have that charisma to them instead of 'new' and I have always known most vines to take over the arbors they are on unless you put effort into keeping them in tac, Or use a smaller growing variety of certain types of climbers ( except for roses) so I have found that the vines pretty much cover most of the nice wood/art work that has been put into a lot of arbors, But, all have different opinions and the fancys are beautifull no matter what!
JasperDale, I feel stupid saying this, But, I am having a hard time distinquishing the potatoe vine in your photo ( I'm not really familiar with potatoe vine so thats part of the problem) How big does it get? Do you start it from seed??
HollyAnnS, Now I really love that last one... More rustic looking!
Sorry I didn't get prices. Just stealing ideas as we will build ours. I will stain mine to match the existing decks and fences. I like those curved cuts on the board ends. and the curved supports attached to the posts. Mine will go over part of the driveway so it needs to be pretty wide. I have an old Wisteria that needs something taller to grow on. This one is a bit different.
Iris: Go to the PlantFiles and type in Solanum. The first one shown is the variegated potato vine. You'll get a good idea from the pic.
The foliage has a very definite gold glow to it and the white flowers look nice with it.
There's also a solid green variety with lavender flowers, but I just like the variegated one better.
I know many of you like me put lights on your arbors and I really liked this small light detail on this porch. Instead of stringing them across they gathered them up in the corner and let them creep partway across much like a vine would.
Iris, that's a great pic of your LB flowers. JD, I have the WORST time trying to get photos of our LB, it just doesn't show up well. I tried growing a native clematis through it, but it didn't work, now I'm having to pull it all out. What a pain. It's just about in full bloom now, so you can see it next week.
Great arbors, everyone. We are planning one, too, but it's way down on the 'to do' list.
It's probably the hardest thing i have to take good photos of. The blooms blend in too much with the vine it's planted with, and if I try to get a good shot, I have to stand under it and aim the camera at the sky...and that doesn't work either.
The fact that I'm an abyssmal photographer doesn't help matters any, either ! LOL
ge, I did too, and Ric and my guys certainly have the talent to build it. But it would be very labor intensive and I have a lot of other projects I want done this summer. Don't want him expending all his energy on just one. LOL
Holly, I like the 'more projects' idea lol!
Pirl, Thanks! Great photo! I did look it up and your photo is pretty good compared to some of the others I have seen, Seems a lot of different bugs like this vine and people say they end up with a lot of holes in there leaves, Don't like that idea.
Iris, There is always another project. LOL This summer's list, we will be starting with the easiest projects and working thru to the biggest. Trellis over driveway, expand patio and flower beds around gazebo, level brick and replace RRties in old raised brick and RRtie patio and start greenhouse. Don't know how many we will get done the first 2 for sure, I expect the old patio should get done, it was the last project on last summers list. The footer for the GH should get done when we do the patio work. If we could get the walls and roof up on the GH I would be over the moon.
HollyAnnS, Thats for sure!! Projects never end! Sounds like you got a lot planned, But, I got a feeling your gooing to get most ( If not all) of it done this year! :) ... Look forward to photos when you do!!
Goodness, I have sculpted a lot of things, and been covered from head to toe in clay a time or two, but sculpting in concrete isn't something I would trust myself doing. I would become part of the arbor, enshrined in concrete. It is gorgeous, though. Maybe I could lay the stone. Nah, too heavy.
Thank you CalifSue. That metal piece is the back of a commonly-available garden bench. The bench belonged to a late friend and the wooden parts had rotted. It has a hummingbird/flower design. So DH incorporated it into the gate/arbor as a memorial. It was a great recycling thing as well as a sentimental gesture, I think. He even curved the top of the gate to match the curve in the metal (look closely and you can see the holes where the bolts were fastening the metal to wood bench parts).
Thanks dellrose and pirl. I'm glad you were touched by it. The late friend was my BF's husband and it means a lot to her that this little part of her and husband's life and garden was preserved. Just think how many of those metal bench-backs end up in landfills! Another idea was to mount it on pieces of rebar legs and use it in the garden as a plant support for low vines or blowsy perennials like asters ( a sort of 'iron headboard' look).
ge- I can only imagine how it would be if I were to transplant to a colder zone. Our hostas are couple of inches tall and I'm outside dividing and moving perennials. July and Aug. are hot and humid here, but I do love the early spring and long fall.
cedar18, This time of year is really hard for me. Today is a beautiful day sun is shining new plants emerging but still too cold to do much. I've been waiting for it to get a bit warmer outside it was in the low 30's when I got up and just now hit the 40's. Hoping for just a bit more warmth before I go down to the garden and clean up another section. Looks like I'll be painting this afternoon instead. I have been setting my flats of Pansies out side all day and moving them into the garage at night. Just about ready to plant them. My perennials are just starting to show some signs of new growth but it will be another month or more before I can do much with them. None of the hostas are up yet. The crocus are beautiful, the daffs are just coming on, a few almost ready to bloom but a lot of them aren't there yet. Tulip tips showing but not even close to flowering. My annuals won't go out till Mother's Day, which is when I plant my window and deck boxes. The house is filling up with seedlings, getting time to get out my stored bulbs and the Co-op plants will be coming soon, too. All I want to do is run out into the yard and start digging. You must have gone thru all this just a month or two ago. LOL
First spring project will be the big arbor over the driveway for my Wisteria. Should get it started in about 2 weeks.
Thanks ge1836, I have a lot of smaller groups of crocus scattered around the yard but even some of those aren't all up yet. How are yours doing? BTW just taking a break from painting, can't complain though I really need to get this laundry room finished. I have been without a washer since before Christmas. When the old one went bust I decided to fix up the laundry room before I got a new one. It's been very slow going. I'd really like it get it done now before we start any big outside projects, like the Arbor. LOL
Y'all make me glad I live here. I know the cold isn't over yet, but I did get some bulbs planted, and thought of Polly since they were Dutch iris. It is still in the 70's has been for a couple of weeks, and things are about to get ahead of me. All the fruit trees are in bloom, and it smells so good outside.
I love spring, too.
Done painting, I am slow and working over head has done me in. LOL I have a gallon of paint almost finished so I asked Ric to finish up for me. He's a sweetie, I get to do as much as I want and then call for help. I was outside it's up to almost 50 and so very nice as long as you stay in the sun. Ric was getting a spot prepared for the peas a bit earlier and I took a break to watch him work and enjoy the sun.
Beautiful here yes, but so is your trellis! How is that made? It looks like real leaded glass 'lead' seams and with the beautiful colored glass insert.
We must be about a month ahead of you. Our last frost is April 15. And we plant pansies in the fall here, early Oct if possible. They don't do a lot in the winter, but the earliest spring days (or spring-like) get them going. They are beautiful now and the early butterflies are enjoying them. Pansies then poop out (technical term) by the end of May when it's getting hot. So really we pull them out when planting summer annuals in the spring. It's hard to do then cause the pansies look great, but experience shows they don't hold up in the heat. And if you wait, it's harder to get your summer annuals established. The trials of gardening any/everywhere! :)
cedar, That whole lamppost bed was put in new last year to replace an old and rather unsightly one. It's had been in the planing stages for quite awhile. There are 3 trellises that I grow clematis on. Plus the wood trellis on the lamppost. They were inexpensive metal trellises that I picked up at Joann's on clearance. I knew they were too light weight and small for my needs so Ric built wood frames for them to make them taller and more sturdy. Then we added the blue glass. This link will take you to a thread showing the whole bed start to finish. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/839411/
I had to take a large Buddleia out last year as it's roots penetrated into my pond and caused it to leak. When I took it out, it left a huge void in the corner of my garden and I didn't want to plant another large tree/bush because of the roots.
I decided to get an arbor/trellis and plant a climbing rose on it, etc. I planted a Cl.Graham Thomas rose and it is doing very well, in fact it already has some buds on it today.
My problem was still there, as inside the trellis, you could still see a void and the block wall...it really needed something else in there. Well, Jasperdale came last week to pick me up for our DG RU and I asked him for some ideas and he gave me something to think about.
A couple of months ago I saw a great idea on Paul James TV show and always thought I would love to do it if I could come up with some old bricks. Wellllllllll, it just so happens that my neighbor next door was cleaning out his side yard this past weekend and he had a whole bunch of used bricks stacked up from an old patio he had. I asked him about them and he said I could use some for my project. I started working on it today. :-)
So, here is the before pic of the arbor. See how naked it is inside.
Here is what I worked on today. It's not finished yet, but it's a start.
You just stager the bricks and lay them on top of each other then top it off with a nice flat paver or stone and place a nice pot on top. I also used some of his broken pieces and created an edging in the front, so the dymondia won't encroah under it. I also used a few more to create a stepping area to get to the pots.
I will paint it with buttermilk when I'm finished to give it an aged look.
Now I have to buy some beautiful pots and figure out what to plant in them to give it some pizzazz. lol
Here is Cl. Rose "Colette" on an arbor with purple ivy geranium. This rose was slow to start and is in it's 3 rd year. Once it grows a little more, I'll let the geranium continue to climb so they integrate better. I wanted the rose to get more established first. By next year it will have completed it's "downward climb".
Cedar: The arbor is just a plain steel no frills arbor. The "saplings" are/is just a grape vine wreath I found in the dumpster. I unravelled it and attached it to the arbor so there'd be something there until everything grew. I also put it on there because I kept walking into it at night!!! It also gives the geranium something to hook on to as it grows.
So, technically, it's "cheating" I guess...
Polly: The critters are wire candle holders shaped like cats which hold a tea light. I stuffed them with mossm spray painted them white, and added them for whimsy. I don't use them as candles holders, though.
(obviously ! LOL )
That's why we're here, right? To share ideas and come up with new things.
I like to do "different" things...and am always changing the garden to fit whatever my recent obsession is...numerous as they are at times !
Here's a pic of the white one - behind you. The trellis for the lutea is similar. The trellis on the wall behind the fountain will probably go away, as we want to move the fountain (ugh!) - possibly into the right-hand corner of the slope beyond the Lady Banks (although I think it would get awfully dirty there). DH wants to kind of build it into the retaining wall he is working on - a really long range project!
Gosh Mike, thanks, but they look pitiful right now - no blooms yet and they are all nekid! This is the only photo I have that sort of shows how they are set up - from 2 years ago. I was actually taking a picture of the pine trees.
DH put up the T supports, then strung wire for support to espalier the trees. The bird netting makes it a little hard to see what's going on. The idea was to make a bit of a fence to close the terrace in a little, but not completely block the rest of the garden. They are pretty well structured now and we're thinking of taking most of the wires out. We'll need the poles for the netting, though, or we will never have any apples, which we love.
Our problem is not knowing how to properly prune them, etc. Everything I read, though, says to just keep trying - as long as you don't chop them off, they'll recover. Someone on DG also said to bag the apples (with baggies!) so the critters don't get them. I might try that this year.
I have finally did a continuence on the arbor that was started ( Moving on from February 21st above) .. This is what I have gotten done since, Didn't work on it for a while as two more raised beds had to be made, Plus other work needed to be done first, But, Did get some done the other day ( Thursday) This photo was taken April 9th ...
I couldn't work on it much yesterday-It poured out! But, Got more done today, Dug all the red clay out and starting putting in good dirt, Almost got three quarters of it done here after working on it since about noon time till almost dark! But, It's getting there! The process will continue! ..
JD, rose w/ clematis, ahh. Your Jackmanii looks so blue, next to rose. I'm trying to grow mine over a white rose, Ducher, and it is the most stunning purple. I don't have that full look yet that I lust after in the clematis forum
Neither do I, Nery. It's really hard to achieve that where I am. This is as close as I think I'll ever get. I have to be satisifed with what I'm able to do, I guess ! lol
There's a lady I know who lives north of me and more inland whose clematis are incredible...and it's only about 10 minutes from me. Her soil is completely different from mine and they absolutely thrive where she is. Her property is on what was once an old riverbed.
I am just checking in after cutting up all my fruit and putting the potato salad in it's travel bowl. We are going to my DD's about 1:30 today.
Kathleen, I'm ready to go see his place again too. When can you come up and when can Mike be home to show it to us? I'm always looking forward to see gardens!!! lol
Happy Easter to all today. We didn't hear the hippity hop during the night as there weren't any little ones at our house. Anyone else hear him? lol
Here are my Italian Easter Cookies I made on Friday. I always make them for my dad and this year I made a double batch for our Easter gathering also. These are like a sweet biscuit with Anise seed in them. They are my dads favorite cookie.
JD, What is the variegated plant growing with the Pat Austin? Boogie?
Love your Roses and Clems, mine are just starting to appear. I planted Roses on my split rail fence and one of them is shaded by a near by tree. It certainly isn't the same size as the others, but is holding on.
Cl. Lemon Meringue...not a good rose for a small arbor though...it sends up these long shoots with blooms on the ends...looks kinda dumb, but it's healthy, so I'll leave it. I should have researched it better.
Arlene, it's amazing when you see it in person. All those plants tucked into small areas and they all work together to form a lovely small garden. I love to sit on the bench and just gaze at his artistry.
Regardless of the space we have it seems we all want more. So many people seem to confuse "space" with "gardens". One of my neighbors always talks about her front garden but I see the asphalt driveway, truck and cars that aren't in the garage, wine casks waiting to be filled (for 10 years now), wood piles, etc. while she has this concept that people visiting are viewing gardens. Aside from the dead plants and the ones that are too big for the space where she has them (like the Oakleaf hydrangea that totally blocks a path), and roses that yearn for sun but remain sitting unhappily in a shady garden there was no advance thought as to what would grow best under her conditions.
While I can fully understand wishing to grow plants that aren't tolerant of either our zones or our weather (regardless of whether it's NY or CA or FL) it's a better idea to grow plants that are happy where they're planted and where we can tend to them or else it's just another mess.
I'd much rather see a well designed and thought out plan for a 12' x 20' spot.
LOL, I live out in the country and we have $350K homes(expensive for our area) on one side of us and old mobile homes on the other. I will admit that I have an outside area stacked firewood, log splitter, coal boxes, bin for scrap metal and other collected items. It's a pretty junky looking space. But I do keep all those things in one area down near the barn not scattered all around the yard. The barn at one time held horses, ponies and goats but now is full of my husbands and sons tools. It's the area where they work on cars and whatever project they have going. We don't see the mess from the house but it is near the road and can be seen by the neighbors. Oh wait, those neighbors have race cars, yeah must have at least 10 cars (not all running) parked in the yard. LOL If I lived in a development like my parents (they don't have all the rules that yours does ge) but still an area like mine wouldn't be acceptable.
JD, I was wondering what kind of place do you live in, if you don't mind. That courtyard is a beautiful spot, is it all one house or a condo complex of some type? If it is a shared complex your neighbors must love it.
Anyone that uses wood for fireplaces or wood stoves has a wood pile but done tastefully (or not seen from any window) is fine with me. I'm sure we all have to have a place for our trash but I wouldn't want mine in full view of those passing by and I wouldn't tolerate having to see it from the house.
I would love a barn too.
My best dream when a potter was to own a small farm where I could use the barn as a studio and have a sales gallery. Never had the money to take on a morgage anywhere.
We have a wood pile.
It will be cleverly disguised as a garden in the summer and is always kept neat.
The sculpture is photoshopped in
I have been moving BigDaddy hosta as well as August Moon.
They are kept at the side as SIL walks to the pile for wood in winter and early spring so that space will be filled with coleus and other annuals
Well, My barn isn't one of those big old beautiful barns, sorry to say. It started out as a 3 sided shed for a pet goat and pony. Then when we needed more room we built a 36 X 34 pole building. Wood exterior matches the house with 6 12x12 stalls and a 10ft wide concrete center isle way. A great spot to put the horses in cross ties and groom them, no standing in mud trying to clean hoofs. I had horses/ponies for 18 years then when the twins went to college and my allergies got really bad we started to find homes for the horses. It was a big lifestyle change. I do miss having them but it did open up new possibilities for me. One of which was more travel which resulted in my becoming a SCUBA diver. Ric has completely taken over the barn now. I'll have go take a picture, I think it has been cropped out of most of my yard pics as things pile up down there which doesn't make the most attractive pics. There should be some old ones of the horses with the barn in the background, they would have to be scanned in.
Talking about wood piles. I received an E-mail with these beautiful interesting pictures. One of the pictures is a stacked wood pile, really a piece of art. There is the stump of the tree with an axe in it. Then laying on it's side looking like it was just felled is a tree. The tree is really a stacked wood pile some of the wood is stacked longways to look like the trunk and branches of tree. Other pieces are stacked sideways to look like the leaves.
Here we go this side view from the house. This area between the house and barn is a fenced dog yard so there isn't much of interest planted here.
JD, your garden is amazing! I LOVE every aspect of it!
Pirl, bless your heart, What a mess to have to look at! What a striking contrast to your beautiful landscape. So often, I only see what's out of place or messy when I look out at the garden, with my eye passing over what may be blooming and beautiful, but it seem some do the opposite. It reminds me of a house down the road from us that for 3 years was sided with that silver insulation board and had a lot of building debris in the drive and lawn, but with a decorated wreath hanging on the front. Always seemed so odd to me, like putting a bow on a dumpster, LOL.
pirl: You didn't give those people credit for color matching the orange and gray buckets to go with the silvery fire wood ! LOL Unfortunately , you can't dictate "taste" for people but setting an example can hopefully send a silent message. Then again, there are lots of folks who can't differentiate between aesthetics or the lack thereof...nor do they want to, I guess. Some people just aren't concerned about their surroundings and can be blisfully happy living with a lot of junk everywhere and no be phased by it. As we all know, for many garden and plant enthusiasts, this just doesn't "compute".
That's funny, Neal. Probably not funny to view but I know of a Tyvek house and the siding was only completed when they sold it! My eyes also hit things wrong with the garden more than what's right, like my neighbor's dead Copper Beech. It's been dead for three years now and she still hasn't had it cut down. That's not the same neighbor as the wood/trash/vehicles/driveway "garden".
JD - it's hard to find anything to praise in her gardens. She does have a great kitchen! The old saying is true: You only get one chance to make a first impression. Driving up to see the view, as posted above, is probably enough said.
Thank you, gemini. There's really "too much going on: in this garden, but I don't care. It's fun to move things around and re-do when I get bored with something, but there is a limit (which I think I exceeded a long time ago LOL ).
HollyAnn: In answer to your question, this place is an apartment building. The main building has 4 units. In the back, there are 2 small units over the garages. The garden is in between the two, thus making it a courtyard. The bldg. was built in 1928 and is typical of the So. Cal. spanish architecture from that era, but my look is completely incongruous with the architecture...something some purists would despise ! But oh well...!
Calif_Sue Northern California United States (Zone 9a)
Oh I have it much worse here!!
Next door to my right, a baby blue house (major yuk!!), bachelor guy, just a lawn, some shrubs under the window, along the sidewalk, bare dirt, rocks and a petrified collection of dog doo.
Across the street, a pink house, white trim. Red lava rock surrounding some juniper bushes. She loved my orange wallflowers so insisted that her 'gardener' plant some against the pink house. I like contrasts but not exactly that one. To the side of her driveway, a cactus collection (nothing wrong with that) except there is a scattering of several white empty bleach bottles scattered throughout. The elderly owner believes that placing a bleach bottle on the bare dirt would prevent the neighbor cats from doing their business there. Lovely. She's bed ridden now with live in caretakers, I think I'll go talk to them to have those bottles tossed.
To my left, another elderly neighbor that no longer leaves her house except to be taken to the doctor by her son. Her house is painted a dark redwood color and all she has planted besides a lawn are three red maple trees that pretty much match the house so tend to fade into the background, green ones sure would have looked better. Anyways, in the adjoining strip next to my front garden, she stubbornly insisted her son plant those grocery store little azalea bushes in full sun, one every 5 feet or so, despite him telling her they wouldn't do well in that condition. So he laid down plastic, ran a drip line and then mulched the entire length. Needless to say, they barely lasted a year. That was at least 2 years ago, the mulch has scattered, the plastic is now exposed and tattered, the drip line cracked and broken, weeds growing everywhere and the son has done nothing, not even remove the dead bushes. I try to at least keep it weeded. A couple of weeks ago I asked him if perhaps his mother would like seeing something planted there for her to enjoy as she looked out her kitchen window. I said I could clear up the entire area, add good compost and plant daylilies and roses, mulch them, water and care for them. I was actually excited to think I have perhaps finally found some more room for the poor daylilies I still have in 5 gal. pots! He said he would ask her. A couple of days later he said thanks but no thanks. I was surprised and said "well I hope you can at least remove the dead sticks" and I walked away. I do believe he had an influence in that no decision, probably some blah blah reason about potential neighborly problems, maybe he expects her to die soon and then they would have to ask me to remove everything so they can sell. Whatever. But I cringe every time I see that wasted space, more so now than ever.
In my old house the neighbor was a hoarder.
She had a true sickness, compulsively shopped and didnt throw anything away.
She nearly had a breakdown when the meter reader reported her basement as a fire hazard. She never threw away boxes from the daily deliveries from UPS.
Any one remember "The Collier Brothers"
The neighbors place is like that.
Husband had a motorcycle until the stuff in the garage buried it. They lived less than 8 feet away.
She was a pediatrician until she contracted the virulent form of breast cancer, she has been battling the disease for 5 years now, so no-one says anything.
Here is an earlier back yard they live on the right this was taken in 2004, note the deflatted swimming pool, the yard had gathered all the stuff from the bathroom remodel,yes toilet and shower stall, plus the camper made from an old ice cream truck
.I just cant go on.
Click the image for an enlarged view.
Calif_Sue Northern California United States (Zone 9a)
I've had some really great neighbors with horrific yards, too. There is just a bit more space out here, so it's not quite so in your face. I think my eye tends to go to the things I want to see, it passes over the neighbors old truck (used as a shed) to the woods beyond. Since Ric and I built our home mostly ourselves, construction zone was a pretty good description for many years. I can remember explaining to a "new" neighbor that lived just down the road. That the smell they were complaining about was not my small pig pen with 3 pigs, it was the neighbor beside them with the leaking septic tank. What did they think that wet spot in their driveway was? Country living at it's best. LOL
Given your neighbors physical situation, you really can't do much, I suppose. Yes, you can and have to overlook it in a case like that. Maybe there's a way to correct the eyesore by offering to help out without being too obvious??? This is a tough one, indeed.
After reading these stories, you can see why they have rules and regulations in newer communities...but some of them go too far with that, as well. It's hard to strike a balance between tyranny and taste !
I feel for you Sue, I really do. I'm surrounded by similar things as well. The bldg. next door to me is owned by a total slumlord. I'm trying to screen out her bldg. so I don't have to look at it, but it takes time.
When I was a kid, some wierd people on our street had someone come in and remove a perfectly nice landscaping job on their house because they didn't want to take care of it. Then, they cemented in every inch of bare space and painted the entire house jet black.
The neighbors filed a lawsuit, but the only success was getting rid of the black paint. At least that worked.
here is the back, the house its at an angle at the farthest they could put it.
Its in a corner.
My gardens run down thru the spruce trees. Its so neat to have sun,shade,partshade, full shade. in a 75 foot stretch
The deck get s covered with containers.The carved bear was not my idea. SIL gifted DD for christmas. We love him anyway
LOL, That is interesting, first thought only in Fl. and I was right. I think the comment about painting goldfish in the pattern was right on. I can see a whole school of Koi swimming down the driveway. I like fun quirky houses. Not going there my self but I do like them. Years ago we had 1 pink house in the area. Sat up on a small wooded hill, mostly you couldn't see it but in the fall/winter when the leaves dropped there she stood. There were brick posts on either side of the drive way and they were painted pink, too.
Michelle, is very talented and her garden was one of the most beautiful I've ever seen.
JD, NOOOO...Not too much at all! Its perfection! I have a great fondness for a great variety in a small space- the talent lies in combining it all so tastefully and artistically (let alone growing the plants well)- you got that down!
Sue, that is so funny to me. At some point you'd think people would realize damage from cats wouldn't look as bad as apparent trash laying in the beds. And OMG, that pic! I had to stare at it a moment to realize that was a drive and not a pool!
ge, that's a tough situation. Perhaps you could try a wall of tall herbacious plants (grasses, cannas, castor beans, etc.) to block it somewhat. Your home and gardens are lovely.
Calif_Sue Northern California United States (Zone 9a)
HollyAnn, only a couple of the pictures on that blog are of Michelle's garden, I toured it about 3 years ago and loved it, posted a whole thread of them back then. She is indeed very talented with her garden and the ones she has designed.
Calif_Sue, I remember the thread tour of her garden, she had here at DG. Then the very sad aftermath of the big freeze. I would imagine you lost a lot of plants in that, too? Now that I think of it you may have posted those pics, and there was another garden with a beautiful stone path?
Calif_Sue Northern California United States (Zone 9a)
If that blue driveway makes those people happy, so be it. They paid for it, their yard is neat and tidy, and if they lose money when the sell their house, well...
I'd pick my battles - health and safety hazards are one thing, but I hate regimented neighborhoods. JMO
not an arbor, not a trellis, just something in between. I orig. planted two honeysuckles, which BTW I have not been able to ID, I think it is a common cultivar. The idea was for the two HS to grow into each other, creating a canopy of sorts. For a few years the tree trunks were green with foliage, but I thought it looked messy. So, one happy day, I removed all the lower leaves to give an illusion that the canopy was floating. As you can see, the left vine thought I was much too harsh and it has struggled. It might even be dead, but I'm not removing yet as it still might leaf out.
I made the mistake of wrapping the oaks w/ chicken wire so that I could guide the vine (that's when I thought I wanted the trunks to be "green"). Now the chicken wire has grown into the bark and I feel so bad for the trees having that ugly wire embedded into it.
It is a lovely place in my garden, you can sit in that swing and smell the HS. ahhhhh. Also, right across the bench, you cannot see it, I have sweet almond verbena which perfumes the air in summer and fall. 'nother ahhhhh.
If you're worried about the wire girdling the tree, try this: Get an old piece of hose and cut it the diameter of the tree trunks. Run some heavy wire through it and re-attach the cross piece to it. That way, the wire won't dig into the tree trunks. You may have to loosen it every few years, though...
JD, sorry, I don't think I understand you. But, it might be too late, I tried pulling some of the chicken wire and it is already embedded into the tree. Bad tree mom, bad!
I don't think I will do that again ever! But if I get the urge to grow a vine up a tree, I might put nails in the tree and then attach wire from nail to nail in some "vine-friendly" pattern. That is a lot of work so I don't think it will be doing it anyway.
Very, very nice. Love the way the top of the gate mirrows the curve of the metal detail. Beautiful setting as well.
I on the other hand did not get my Wisteria arbor built. It is crawling across the drive way and I am going to try and not to cut it back as I will want that growth for up on the arbor once we start. Hopefully next month. Sigh...
It is blooming beautifully though.
It's her attempt to thwart the deer instead it frightens old people (like me) and little kids! The deer are not stupid. They walk around to the side that is unprotected and leap the little fence and munch away.
ANSWER>>>>>>>PLACE A LARGE ARBOR AND COVER IT WITH CLEMATIS.
We did the above and it is starting to prove what properly placed eye candy can do to wipe out line of sight that may not be appreciated. The clematis should cover a third to half of it this year and do what we planned very nicely next year.
With a little help we got this dandy built with green rough cut mill lumber for under seventy five bucks.
Fantastic tree. There was a business in town that had a similar tree that branched out in two directions like that one. Not really sure what it was some type of evergreen. It had been there for years it didn't really look good as the planting around it was wrong. But the tree itself was wonderful. There was a business sign near the tree also. One day I was driving by and looked as always for that great tree and here they had cut it down. Cut off both branches and dozed the trunk out. Guess the new owners didn't like that it was encroaching on their sign. What idiots!
ge1836...what a beautiful site. Really nice. Iris I love to look at but not care for. I have a couple but of no special showing or interest. A neighbor gave me three. I stuck them in and mulched the heck out of them ten years ago. All have put up with me and my wood mulch that is not suggested by any Iris grower I know. I never maintained them in any so called proper management. They just are...what can I say?
I'm not a TBI fanatic either. We inherited these gardens with the house and ALL the iris are purple.
I bought 4 from Shreiners all yellows and pinks and an orange just for relief from the boredom
The root borer got 3 so I'm all over with that stuff.
Hope I can keep the ones we have alive.
DD moved a few of her favorits and they are mauve an a pink one.
OK, this is a little "from the sublime to the ridiculous." DH has a stack of redwood slats piled up in the yard that I wanted him to get rid of. We planted two native honeysuckles recently and want to train this one upright, so I had the idea of a teepee! Works great, didn't cost anything, and the birds use it for a perching spot on the way to the feeder or fountain.
At least we're using up those slats! We put one around a mallow that is being eaten - surrounded it with bird netting. Unfortunately, it seems it wasn't a squirrel eating the plant, but perhaps grasshoppers? I like them, and they blend in with our 'natural' landscape.
I have some questions about planting for my arbor.
DH build me a beautiful arbor. Now I have some clematis and honeysuckle to plant. The thing is the arbor is built on the porch so there really isn't ground close by to plant in. I am thinking that these guys will have to stay in containers.
Thank you. I love that trellis too. I never have time to get to plant pots to put in the holders though. I just get too much on my plate... I am trying to take time this year to do some pots...we will see how it goes.
I bet your coleus look really pretty. What colors do you like? Do they over winter for you in your sun room? Coleus are so pretty...So many colors and patterns...
Thank you as well...San Diego huh? Such a different growing zone then I am use to. You can grow Bougainvillea out side all year there can't you? I would love to live in a zone a little warmer. There are so many things like that you can grow there. Lantana is another that would grow all year there too, huh?
I love Lantana too, but here we can only grow as an annual and they never get big enough, you know?
That is a great arbor...There is so much you could do! Why can't you plant the clematis and honeysuckle in the front of the arbor legs to the side just a bit? There is ground there, it would be just alittle in front of the raised beds? I think that would look great. They would fill in soon. What kind of clematis were you planning on planting?
I do keep the coleus going all winter long and keep taking cuttings. I hope to do fewer cuttings this summer and fall and just concentrate on my most favorite ones. Mine range from light to dark, a few that trail and then the host of new ones we just bought on Wednesday. It never ends.
sound pretty cool pirl. I did not even know there were trailing ones. They are such an addition to the garden. You always have pretty color and do not even have to worry about when the flowers die. I did hear from somewhere you are supposed to cut off the flowers when they do bloom. Is that true? something about it keeps the leaves more beautiful.
It's funny, I love where we live and that we can leave a lot of things outside in winter, but I would love to have Clematis like that. We are limited because of the heat here. Yes, we can grow Bougainvillea, but I did have one die from an Easter freeze one year - so you never know. Nothing is ever simple, is it? :-)
BTW, my family is originally from the Hamburg, Philly, Allentown areas.
What ever happened to "Missing Rosie"
I will have pix of new garden sculpture soon.
I havnt seen her posting in months.
Went to a studio sale and hoped to find an arbor but all there were free standing pyramids with a "thingie" on top.
If my clems from the co-op ever develope I'll need a arbor for them.
Love the one on the middle right Pirl. The light one with a little orange in it. Would look lovely mixed in a shade garden with a autumn fern.What is the name? Yeah...I deadhead my annuals and some of my perennial, but I had remembered hearing that about coleus. I let a coleus go one year and it got pretty purple spiked floweres...but it started to compromise the leaf growth and some of the leaves got raggy looking so I clipped the flowers off.
KaperC...Isn't that the way. You would like to grow what I grow, I would like to grow what you can grow. It is just human nature to want what you can't have. (or can't grow) That is one of the reasons I like this site, you get to see everyone elses flowers and enjoy then as well.
Thanks Zuzu! This is a great thread. I enjoyed looking at everyones arbors and trellis! So may different kinds and different vines to grow on them. Gave me some new ideas...When you start running out of garden space then you just start going vertical.
I love art and objects with plant elements in the sculpture is just a bonus.
It is possible to over do it though so I moved a piece to another location and it made a difference.
Now to find things for the rest of the gardens. I would like a trellis but havnt seen just the right one. I'm fussy as if nobody hadnt noticed.
Would you consider potting up the rhubarb until you can get someone to dig out the huge hosta in the fall (when you can remove the leaves so it will be easier) and then amend the soil and plant the rhubarb in that spot?
My Arbor and shed staining project is finished and supporting a nice growth...some flowers in their second year and a cuke which was added a bit late in the plan. It is begining to show promise of literally hiding the neighbor behind my location of the arbor.
Farmgirl, Your gardens are so beautiful have you done all that yourself? Love the trellises, Great placement on the fist pic. I have just gotten a Hyacinth Bean and just love the look of it. We will see how it does for use. I was wondering about The roof on that bird feeder is it a green roof, looks like it could be?
Hope this is new for some of you.
My neighbor gave me a pallat of flagg stone walk pavers.
DD helped place them today.
What would we do without our children.
This is her and the 2 walks, we have 9 pavers left but she will find a creative use for them.
I thought that roof looked green (planted). How is that working?
ge1836, that is looking very nice. Ah yes, helpful children I have 4 grown 2 girls and 2 boys. My son's are very handy and have big muscles. LOL Right now not a lot of help as they are both working big time hours but they will come when really needed. The girls do to in their ways and they are all very good and helpful to their grandparents. I have been working on a new bed. It will be a long strip that will run down the side of the veggie garden and while I was working I've been thinking about putting in a walkway. There is a wide grassy path that leads down from the front yard that runs between the veggie garden and the evergreens to the barn. We use it all the time and I was thinking once the new strip garden gets put in maybe I should think of some type of hard-scape walkway that there will be no mowing that will need to be done down their.
Ah yes the mention of grass. If you all could get the cut set at three and a half inches or four within a year you would have better grass, less weeds, less need of water and less grass cutting because it is not racing to save itself from a golf club scalping. I had trouble with my family and help setting my mowers for a closer cut. All mowers here are now welded in place to cut four inches.