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Gourd

(Zone 4b)

March 11, 2009
01:07 PM

Post #6251923

It's only 6 inches square, but it sure did get heavy with the lead, zinc, and solder.

I really like it, but made a couple of mistakes on there, you can't see them in the photo, but there are two small gaps where you can see the light..lol Great experience for me and I must get more practice in cutting the lead channels.

Since we had to have our glass precut before the class, we did not leave enough space for the lead, so we were all off just a little. But, everyone's pieces came out great anyway.

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chinatreasures
Miccosukee Cpo, FL

March 11, 2009
01:33 PM

Post #6252030

It turned out great for your first project! Did you use scissors for lead to cut out your pattern pieces?

Also, not meaning to criticize, but just offering some advice ~ when soldering your rings for hanging, try to solder them to the top outside vertical edge. Since this project is so small, it shouldn't matter. When I do my panels, I drill a small hole through the zinc on the outside top and put keyrings through it. This allows the weight of the panel to be supported by the vertical edge instead of across the top and the weight of the panel won't pull the top zinc bar away from the glass. Does this make sense?
Gourd

(Zone 4b)

March 11, 2009
01:36 PM

Post #6252041

Oh yes, I like that, it gives it more support.

No, I didn't use scissors for lead, or scissors for that matter, I copied the pattern on a cardboard and used an exacto knife "of all things"... I think everything that could be done wrong was done... lol, I didn't know there were lead scissors until she asked us..

I really appreciate any help you guys give me. We didn't have a chance to do the cement or whiting. I don't know when I will learn that, as I have to find someone that knows how to do that first. I did buy some cement and whiting and may try it on my own.

Do you by chance have any photos of your panels? I'd love to see one.
A.
Gourd

(Zone 4b)

March 11, 2009
01:43 PM

Post #6252068

I'm trying to figure out where you said to drill holes on the top, (not on the side one?) I guess i need a diagram..lol..

What we did is just put the copper rings we made into the holes at the end of the vertical channel. We didn't close the holes, and I didn't even ask if we should close the holes or how. the bottom ends are also open. I guess we should/could fill them with solder?
chinatreasures
Miccosukee Cpo, FL

March 11, 2009
02:02 PM

Post #6252151

Ok, after taking a closer look at the corners, I see what you mean. When I make a square panel, I make diaganol cuts for the corners (like a picture frame). This takes some practice and a miter box. It also avoids having the open ends. Here's a picture of a recent one I made for my granddaughter. I think you can see that the holes for the hanger are at the outside edge of the vertical zinc. Also the holes are drilled as close to the outer edge of the zinc so that you don't interfere with the inner part of the zinc that holds the glass. And remember ~ drill the holes into the zinc BEFORE attaching the zinc to the glass. You don't want to be completely finished and try to drill holes that close to your glass!!

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Gourd

(Zone 4b)

March 11, 2009
02:09 PM

Post #6252166

That looks really nice, I see what you mean now, you mitered the corners. Okay, I'll try that on another panel to see how I do.

Did you foil this panel and then use the zinc to frame it?

Also, thank you so much for posting a photo it helped me greatly.
chinatreasures
Miccosukee Cpo, FL

March 11, 2009
02:19 PM

Post #6252208

This one is foil. I've only done 1 or 2 lead panels. I just don't seem to like it as well as I do foil.

Good luck and if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask!
Gourd

(Zone 4b)

March 11, 2009
02:22 PM

Post #6252224

Alrighty,
thank you so much.
A.
jcoats123
Payson, AZ
(Zone 7a)

March 12, 2009
01:10 AM

Post #6254927

Gourd, good job. Is't it funny how some people like foil and some like came?
Putty is simple but messy. I might have a book someplace for that I will check it out and send it to you if I can find it.
JoAnne
imapigeon
Gilroy (Sunset Z14), CA
(Zone 9a)

March 15, 2009
01:39 PM

Post #6270936

Gourd, this was my first fullsize leaded window---I made it for our garage side door. Hmmm...sort of similar designs & colors? I'm tellin' ya girl, we were separated at birth!

NICE soldering on your piece, BTW!!!

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Gourd

(Zone 4b)

March 20, 2009
04:38 PM

Post #6296131

Oh that is just gorgeous... I like those colors! Somehow I think we like a lot of the same things.

went out of town for my DS 's birthday, so was gone most of the last few days... although, yesterday we were in El Paso again, at the Docs..

I did hit hobby lobby and found some purple water glass, got only one sheet. I should've checked to see if they had blue..

Your window is very nice. How big is it?
imapigeon
Gilroy (Sunset Z14), CA
(Zone 9a)

March 20, 2009
05:57 PM

Post #6296389

I'd have to measure to be sure, but I think it's about 22" square. Whatever the size of the glass pane in the door is...LOL! The only problem with it is that since I just put it inside the existing glass (it was kind of a "practice" project) I can't clean both sides! But it's been installed for probably 15 years--it's gotten a few cracks from the door blowing shut, but it's held up pretty well.

It was a good first "big" project because it only has those 4 little curved pieces. After this I did a window for my friend's victorian, and it was a WHOLE lot more complicated.
Gourd

(Zone 4b)

March 21, 2009
09:55 PM

Post #6301619

Well, it sure is nice. It looks clean to me!

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imapigeon
Gilroy (Sunset Z14), CA
(Zone 9a)

March 21, 2009
11:09 PM

Post #6301929

The miracle of digital photography...I could pick the shot that didn't show any cobwebs...LOL!

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