Bob: You know the NJ self watering ones for my deck are on my wish list for next Spring, along with a dwarf tangerine tree, dwarf lemon tree, dwarf lime tree, dwarf pomegrante tree and possibly a dwarf fig. I plant to keep them potted up on the deck. In June, my brother is going to dig up one of the scuppernong white grapes from down at my daddy's place for me, the old folks used to make suppernong wine from the grapes in this area; but, I love those huge white grapes for snacking on.
You're growing 105 bean plants in the small 12 inch one? WOW. I'm planning on sowing cowpeas at the end of April (first time). Will they do what yours are doing in the 12 inch? Do I need separate planters or can a mix them together, keeping one variety per level (eg., All purple hulls in one level, all Lady cream peas in the next level, etc.)? LMK soonest, so I can start saving up some more $$$.
Have ya'll seen the new edition of Gardener's Supply? They have self watering troughs in there and even a self watering vegetable garden, can you imagine? Hmmmm...no Joyce, you can't afford right now, now Joyce you cant' afford right now, rats!
Bob: It has an 8 gallon reservoir and you can plant quite a bit in it also. I will have to try the square footers I have first this Spring to see how they do; as they are the same wicking system as those and not really a bad price. They have self watering deck plant holders but they are high priced and only attatch to one size deck rail, not mine I'm afraid. LOL
I am new to this forum, but I love this idea. Once it fills in, it looks so attractive. So what kind of pole does it require and where would I find one? I put in a 4 x 4 raised bed this year to start growing veggies, this would be a great use of space. Could summer squash be grown in this set-up or would that be too heavy? How about cucumbers? Sorry if these questions are answered somewhere else.
Ooo, thanks for posting over in beginning gardeners. I love the set up. I can't wait to read about what else you are growing so I can follow along. Did I miss this info? What type bean are you growing?
I used a 5/8 steel rebar for these 12 inch pots. Grow anything you want. Vining veggies will grow down and sprawl if that fits into your scheme. I haven't tried a bush variety of squash, they are very big and might not work.
Those a Blue lake Bush String Beans. Right now in my stacking planters i'm growing beans, cantelope, honeydew, collards, romaine lettuce , black eyed peas(thanks to Karen), trying tomatoes and peppers, and English Peas
We had a wicked storm last night...was thinking about Joy.
Washed away alot of pollen but broke a couple of my tomatoe plants. Hope everyone in its path is ok. You would sure know it this morning if you have a roof leak. I have lived in FL almost my whole life...love the thunder. That was in the top two of what I have ever heard.
Garden Glory: I was left stumbling in the dark, my daughter took off to Orlando and I was just getting out of the shower when the electric went, and of course, every single flashlight in the house's battery was dead and I can't see at night. Managed to fumble around and get dressed and then out to my brothers for a flashlight, when I got back, the lights were back on. We are supposed to get more of the same Monday; but today the sun is shining, so this evening out go some more plants and hopefully, will have everything done this week.
Bob: I am going to try the beans in my stackers, but I can't wrap my brain around tomato plants in them. How does that plant get it's support? Or does it hang like the topsy turvey (or whatever they are)? I'm confused when it comes to the larger plants.
Bob: Nice, my plants are getting bushy too; but that is because of the nonstop rain we have had all week here, can't even dart out between the drops. It's supposed to let up tomorrow and the next day; but then right back to it again. Hmmm, maybe I should put the toms out of the greenhouse? Hmmm, maybe not?
OK The harvest begins !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just for fun I picked the first 10 beans from the Bean Pole. They weighed in at 1.4 oz. The tally begins today. Let's have a contest. Whoever comes closest to the total poundage of beans harvested from the 100 plant Bean Pole wins a prize. The prize is the same set up to grow the 100 plants - 7- 12inch NJ Stacking Planters.(you supply the 4 ft rebar). Reply to this thread with your username and guess. Good luck to all.
LOL! Jackwhacker, I did it scientificlike. I figgered that with BB's calculation of 1.4 oz. for 10 beans, that would be right about 100 beans plus change to a lb. And then I imagined BB's nimble fingers picking off beans to the tune of thousands and that made me figger that BB's fingers would fall off at right about the 4200 or so mark. That's how I picked my number.
Bob...if you keep this up, you may prove that stacked container gardening is the most cost effective and productive way to garden. I can think of some advantages:
1. Gardeners with smaller spaces can make use of this system.
2. Gardeners with some physical limitations can use this system. Less bending, stooping, kneeling and heavy weight lifting.
3. Watering system simplified either manual or automatic and uses much less water.
4. Can garden intensively and use succession sowing to increase production.
5. Stacking pots made of a material that may never wear out.
6. Coir based grow mix is reported to last 5 to 10 years with proper care.
7. Easily combined with other methods of gardening.
8. Can be and should be used with the type of soluable fertilizer that contain all necessary nutrients.
9. Simplified technique using free draining grow mix, Proper fertilizing and good watering schedule. Beginners make fewer mistakes.
10. Faster growing and lusher plants.
11. Vertically mounted stacked pots eliminate some of the problems with ground type insects such as cut worms, slugs, snails, etc.
12. No ground diseases. No worry about clay soil, sandy soil, nematodes, grass and weeds in the grow beds, cat poo, dog poo, and maybe best of all, less chance of salmonella from cow and horse poo.
13. easily covered to protect from frost which can allow extended seasons.
I gotta quit...my fangers are tard...but whats not to love!
I really want a set of those stackers, but I am possible even more interested in the yield. Common sense tells me it cannot work very well. Roots need more room than that. The pictures show that common sense is not working. Obviously the plants are thriving. The final test is the yield.
I have not had the opportunity to use coir. I would like to try it sometime. I wish that I could get some locally. It is on my wish list. I will order some as soon as I can. It sounds like a good growing medium from everything that I have read about it.
I hear ya on the "under the fingernails"! Gloves bog down with the weight of the dirt so they are no help. Loss of dexterity is not bad enough with gloves and then they get covered with dirt to make it worse. I always laugh at Martha and her pretty clean gardening gloves. Coir is definitely high on the wish list.
I think I'm the only male gardener with clean fingernails and smooth skin thanks to the coir. I used to put hand cream on every night because my skin would crack. Kathy I would take advantage of the special price of $5.95 right now if you want to try it?
Funny that you should mention the $5.95. I was looking at it on the 5th. Until I go back to work, I can order nothing. Don't you love the way employers can work it so their employees do not qualify for unemployment? I have been working only 4 day a month all year. I should be hearing from job possibility by the end of this week or beginning of next week. Coir is on the list after paying my mechanic and catching up on a few other things. Mechanic is coming today to work on my van. Ignition switch went out over the weekend. The blessed man is willing to wait for payment. There better be a special place in heaven for folks like him.
I think what you planted was them "French Fillet" beans and you are out there stumbling around in the dark talking to them in an off version of English with a south Florida drawl. It aint working, Bob.
I'm guessing 81.5, don't know why that number, but I sure would love to have a set of those stackables. I have them on my wish list now. going to talk my sons into buying me some, I hope. going to talk anyway. lol Here in n.e. florida where my soil is nothing but clay, these would help out greatly in growing lots of things.
Is beans all you have grown in them?
BocaBob I love reading your posts.
I am going to see able finding them in my area I think I have seen them before
but I would only put two seeds in each one and thin down to one with so many you must have to fertilize often to keep the plants happy
that is amazing will have to get lots of them since my vegi garden needs to much work to plant there this year the neighbor had his water problems fixed and he is draining it all into my backyard lol vegi garden I tried to talk to him and he dont care so I had to contact the city to have an engineer come out since I am not going to tolerate my property getting flooded by his ignorance
so this year we will just plant next to the house in a much smaller area so I am going to need some way of planting more in less space and that looks good to me
Mona, more with less is always better. Just ask Bob. His space isn't huge but I'm guessing he has veggies enough to give away or even sell at the farmer's market. That put us all on the "cutting edge" of growing veggies.
This is what it is all about !!!!!! Dinner that didn't have to be bought at the grocery store. The tomato is the first one of my 3rd planting since last August. (More beans to pick tonight off the bean pole)
This is a little off topic, however, some have asked what can be planted in stackers so here is a picture taken out of my kitchen window. A bird planted a sunflower in the top pot of one of my stackers and you can see it standing proud and blooming. I have already harvested radish and bok choi and some green onions off that stack and it is still providing a batch of chard about once a week plus the top pot has some Bijou sweetpeas draped down from it for some pretty and stink. Basil is good to add to a stack for the fragrance and pest repelling. Im posting this to show that I agree with Bob that you can stack much more in these stackers than most people think. The trick is the right grow mix and the right water/fertilizer program and they will really produce for you.
Jay: What a lovely set up and what a bunch of plants you have there. I'm watering the old fashioned way this season, the grow bags anyways, as I'm using Bob's fertilizer in a 2 gallon watering can this time, I don't mind as it gives me time to also look for those nasty horned catepillars. Saw my buddy the wasp though, so he is looking for them too. LOL
Hi, I'm going with 56 pounds. I know, there are a few close to that, but I'm sticking with it anyway. :-) By the way, are we using "the price is right" rules, of the closest without going over, or just the closest?
Scicciarella, there is a link to instagarden earlier in the thread. He sells them there. The average price I've been seeing them for is about 60-70 for a tall stack - exact number depends on how shallow or deep the trays you get are. You can get individual trays for around 15? They do look awesome, don't they? I'm looking for excuses to get some.
Beaker: I will have lots of tomatoes, I have 38 plants, 14 varieties of those. And if that tomato tree plant is half as good as they advertise, they say it is supposed to grow 8 ft tall, produce 60 lbs of tomatoes weighing at least 2 lbs each, my daughter will just have to set up a vegetable stand. LOL
[quote] Tplant: you are getting off subject and sort of taking away from the bean bets![/quote]
This is a dedicated thread for Bob to keep up with his bean count and stacking pot with beans progress, and for us to vote for a chance to win the prize he has offered. It has already been requested once by Tplant that members quit hijacking this thread, and I think it show the utmost in disrespect that it has continued on, but some members either don't know what thread hijacking is or they can't resist selfishly doing it on countless threads across the vegetable forums. I can explain by Dmail if anyone needs to know why serial hijacking is disrespectful and disruptive.
I'm going to take a shot at the amount of beans that will be picked
and I figure about one to two pounds per plant or so. This is allowing for any mishaps. I have watched the bean farmers down here and my guess would be 94 pounds and that is more than enough for any family.
Hey Bob? How about awarding a coir sample to the winner or closet guess??
my apologies, also, for going off thread with the restaurant thread. I'll address those by dmail. At the time, I thought it was a selling point to get more people to buy the towers, thus connected to the bean pole topic.
Bob: Are those bush beans? How long from planting til harvest and do you have any pics of the plants itself? I'm curious cause I'm growing bush means myself and would like to see how they are supposed to look.
TPLANT...[quote]I'm going to take a shot at the amount of beans that will be picked
and I figure about one to two pounds per plant or so. This is allowing for any mishaps. I have watched the bean farmers down here and my guess would be 94 pounds and that is more than enough for any family.[/quote]
1-2 pounds for a plant? OMG! My guess was wrong then :( I've never grown Bush Beans before(only poles). I was guessing 3-5 ounces a plant...
I love this experiment! Win or lose it's gonna help my garden next year. Thank you BB! When it's all said and done. There's no way I expect 20 lbs. of beans from 20 plants. I'm hoping for 3 pounds :)
[quote]Scicciarella: Thank you.
joy[/quote] Joy what did she do, did I miss something?
My 24" stacker pots were full of planted peas and beans that rotted due to the cold snaps and wet and cloudy weather. I had to replant all yesterday. I hope they resprout and give me a good yield like Bobs...
Ah, I see...I was just telling Bob that next year I will be more patient and wait on planting all of my veggies, including those beans I lost. Maybe if mine produce good I will keep a count on what Bob's 24" will produce.
darkmoondreamer: I fully intend to start next year and use the greenhouse, that way I have a jump on the season, got a heater now and the electrical outlet is fixed. Will still have to wait on the fussy vegs though, such as okra, corn, peppers and eggplants. LOL
Bob: some of those look like yellow wax, are they or are they just a different shade. I'm just wondering about picking time and the difference. I was expecting all the same color. This is my second year, but I wish I had done them in my stackers instead of strawberries that are too late. I'm itchin to just chuck the berries and plant new beans just to see what will happen, but the berries are still somewhat producing (although I forget to pick them) and I think it's too late to plant from seed here.
Ok. Don't know who's in this thread now, but trying to fill my seed swap orders tonight and need those tiny brown envelopes. I'm in the CVS pharmacy this minute N they don't have em. Where ya'll buy em? Sorry for hijack. SOS!
Bob --- You read my mind! Because of my late start I was wondering but yesterday planted eight Tendersweet Bush Beans in one EB of course with your coir. I still can't get over the lightness and ease of moving my coir EBs from last season even though they were hydrated as I never let my EBs dry out even when not in use. The coir looked exactly like the day I first put it in and absolutely no odor. Great stuff...(Still cleaning up the area after the construction.)
if that is all then those plants are not producing to well I usually get about 1 1.5 pounds per plant if I pick them everyday since they will keep trying to make seeds which is not
happening when picked everyday
Hi tubbytee --- I will take pictures as soon as I clean-up a little more. I'm taking a break today even though I'd love to be working out there but I must not overdo it. The lighter EBs, that is lighter than previous years because coco coir is far lighter than Jungle Growth, have made my work much easier and with all health problems that I have it does make a difference.
I liked 42 (the "ultimate answer" LOL) and 101 ("a hundred and one pounds of fun!"), but those were taken, so I went with 99 since 9 is a lucky number for me. (Which is to say, this was not a scientific guess in the slightest!)
I have been reading this thread everyday. And I finally decided that I am going to take a guess at how many pounds of beans you are going to harvest. I do not know anything about "normal" yields for the beans (Since this is my first year growing a garden). I am thinking that each plant should produce 1.5 lbs, and that some plants are going to do better. So I am going to say 137lbs.
First of all, I think this thread with 2,822 views so far is so incredible. The interest blows my mind. As far as the results go, I'm disappointed. I barely harvested 10 lbs of beans from 100 plants. But, here are some of my conclusions. Way to many plants in to small an area. The stackers are cemented together with roots. I had to water 3 times a day to keep up with their needs. I fed them 3 times a day too. I had lush plants but not a good yield. I think too much fert. The stackers were so root bound I couldn't see the coconut coir. So, the 7 planters in the stack are great, but I would only plant 1 maybe 2 seeds per planting position. I actually started another stack with 2 (not 5) seeds to compare. That is still 42 plants occupying 1 sq foot of ground space. I know the rule on The Price Is Right is closest but not going over, but we need a winner. AND the winner is ascholz from Summerville, SC with 21 lbs. Please D-mail me to to collect your prize.
Thanks to everyone who got involved in this thread, it has been a lot of fun no matter how many beans I picked, and a great learning experience. My wife and I did can all 10 lbs of beans though.
Congratulations to both of you! Although the beans did not produce as much as we all had hoped it taught me and all of us a valuable lesson. The coir works but do not over crowd your plantings as all this will do is to make them compete against each other at the cost of production.
Meanwhile I've not been posting lately because I am so involved with the re-landscaping of my home and the $811.00 repair bill for my car but " I'LL BE BACK! " LOL
Hmm, this is starting to make me think of that previous thread about how someone's containers got stolen right off their porch. Those towers are looking awful tempting! lol Sometimes ethics are annoying. ;-)
ascholz -- Yes do try the beans. Mine have taken off like "gangbusters" if
you know what I mean. I've always had excellent results in EBs and this time they are really doing well. I have them on Bob's auto irrigation system and can't wait for my first batch. It is hot out but they seem to love it. Average temp in upper 80's but no rain in weeks.
No they are in one of my EBs. I've not had much of a garden this season as the construction made my melon planting etc. fall way behind schedule and the vast majority of my time is being taken by my re-landscaping work but I promise it will look great when I'm finished in a week or so although we gardeners are really never finished! My melons are struggelinng with the heat as they are still seedlings and very susceptible to the heat as I did not plant them until after our planting season but I'd thought I'd try. Just a little to hot for seedlings.
They are sooooo coooool! I love the color too, it's kind of a greenish blue (at least in the house lighting). I have some of Bob's coco coir and perlite ready to go! Now I just have to decide what to plant.