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davis1676
Disputanta, VA
(Zone 7a)

March 19, 2009
12:55 PM

Post #6289185

do you think they are still alive down there? I have a few coming up but the majority are still not showing anything. I don't think it has anything to do with patience at this point...any suggestions?
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

March 19, 2009
1:53 PM

Post #6289384

Davis, I would think yours would be up by now - I have already started looking for mine and I am zone 5b. How deeply were they planted when you planted them? The eyes need to be facing up and planted at 2" - no deeper.
GardeningNC
Durham, NC
(Zone 7b)

March 19, 2009
5:15 PM

Post #6290194

I have some that are up as far as five or more inches and then I have a few that only have a tiny 'nub' sticking out of the ground. I plant all mine at about 1inch or so deep - well the eyes, too deep around here and they don't get the cold they need during winter. I can't say for sure yours are too deep or have died/disappeared, but I have to say - don't give up just yet! I wish you the best of luck!
Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 19, 2009
7:46 PM

Post #6290845

Ok, how deep did you plant them? Do you have mulch over the top of them? How long ago did you plant them?
davis1676
Disputanta, VA
(Zone 7a)

March 19, 2009
10:14 PM

Post #6291514

Gee, maybe 4" but I kept thinking 'that's not too deep' ... duh! I dug one area up and that one is gone, nothing. I covered each of them with just enough mulch to locate them. :-( I'm so mad at myself for not getting out a ruler. Harsh, harsh, lesson learned!


Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

March 19, 2009
11:01 PM

Post #6291725

Oh Davis. I'm sorry.
Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 20, 2009
3:23 AM

Post #6292988

Oh I'm so sorry. I'd probably probe around the others and see if they are still intact and then I'd lift the root.

Diann
davis1676
Disputanta, VA
(Zone 7a)

March 20, 2009
12:07 PM

Post #6293993

Thanks guys, I'll go out today & dig around to see if anything is left. It's wierd but even the ones I planted year before last only show signs of growth on 3. I planted 16 NEW roots this past fall. I'll post back if I have any luck. Red clay!

Edited after seeing a pic Steve posted to say: I won't stop trying they are way too beautiful to give up on. Huge pots sunk in the ground? I love a peony!



This message was edited Mar 20, 2009 8:27 AM
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

March 20, 2009
12:46 PM

Post #6294139

I love them too. Let us know and good luck.
GardeningNC
Durham, NC
(Zone 7b)

March 20, 2009
6:41 PM

Post #6295679

davis, I plant mine with the 'eyes' just below the soil line then mulch over them... 4" is probably a bit deep for them but I would think they would still be alive somewhere under there, I will be wishing you the best in the locate/relocation/planting thing!! I know you can have beautiful peonies in clay... not sure if any tricks to it - I go t slightly lucky in that where my peonies are it is not just clay - but most of my property is red clay - the only good thing I have found is if you have a pond - the red clay is the best soil for water plants :-)
Again, Good Luck!!
davis1676
Disputanta, VA
(Zone 7a)

March 23, 2009
10:59 PM

Post #6309838

I've found 7 of my peonies! Yay! There were under at least 3+ inches of soil. I've dug away the dirt & put up markers. Tomorrow I'll gt some peony stakes. What do most of you use? The circle with the 3 little flimsy metal sticks or something better?
(p.s. thanks for all your kind wishes)
Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 23, 2009
11:06 PM

Post #6309868

This is what I use, or something similar. :)

http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=2&p=10446&cat=2,43319,33282&ap=1


Please note, I didn't pay that much for mine. I bought mine in sets.

This message was edited Mar 23, 2009 6:07 PM
ClematisGuru
Delaware, OH

March 23, 2009
11:11 PM

Post #6309889

My single peonies, a prize hedge of them in my garden, are showing signs if i brush back mulch.
they are not poking up from past the mulch, but they are alive. we have had 70 degree daytime weather, and still 20 degrees and 60's mostly daytime. Hostas also taking thier time, which probably means more cold weather coming.
it is still early, even tho we have had this warm sunny weather.
In case anyone in zone 5 wants to know!

photo from 08 just to remind me how nice it will be when they appear! I have them in front of a large screen with a rouge cardinal clematis and a ramona clematis, and a few delphiniums later in the season.

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ClematisGuru
Delaware, OH

March 23, 2009
11:13 PM

Post #6309898

these single ones i just posted the photo of don't seem to need any staking. this hedge of them has been in for about 4 years.
Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 23, 2009
11:20 PM

Post #6309934

That is correct and that is why I favor the singles. :) Usually the ones that need staking the most are the heavy doubles. They were bred for the florest trade and not necessarilly for a garden peony. But they do smell heavenly! :)

Diann
ClematisGuru
Delaware, OH

March 23, 2009
11:32 PM

Post #6309977

me too. the singles and the size of the center is breathtaking. i dug mine form a country property, was so lucky to have been given the pieces. they also do not harbor ants. of course, the doubles are a beauty all their own.
Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 23, 2009
11:40 PM

Post #6310011

This is my all time favorite peony. Silver Shell... Nothing expensive, just nice.

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ClematisGuru
Delaware, OH

March 24, 2009
11:03 AM

Post #6311780

love single shell. i am going to buy some more single varieties. mine are all as in the photo in a hedge about 8 feet long.

that is a beauty.

here is a close of mine. don't know the name of them as i dug them from a huge stand of them on a friends farm.

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

March 24, 2009
12:26 PM

Post #6311980

Davis -

YAY! Glad you found them!

I use the flimsy 3 legged hooped deal myself. I got mine at Lowes and paid about $2 each for them.

Most of my peonies are doubles - I do have a few singles. I don't know the names of any of them - they were bought years and years ago by my husband's Grandmother - she was 99 when she died a number of years ago.

Carolyn

ClematisGuru
Delaware, OH

March 24, 2009
12:29 PM

Post #6311989

somehow i love not knowing the peony names. my clematis obsession leaves room for appreciating beauty but not another collecting obsession. so i shall buy deep red, white , and other single peonies and never check the names.

blissfully ignorant as they say and so appreciative of the peony's breathtaking beauty.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

March 24, 2009
12:55 PM

Post #6312085

and the peonies smell heavenly...
ClematisGuru
Delaware, OH

March 24, 2009
12:57 PM

Post #6312101

the first time i saw mine at my friends farm, i was joyous with the beauty, don't think i had ever seen a single peony before.

the size of the center and unpretentious beauty...just perfect!
GardeningNC
Durham, NC
(Zone 7b)

March 24, 2009
6:36 PM

Post #6313601

Davis, congrats! I have some that have just barely broken the surface and I have others that are almost full height and have fairly nice size buds on them - you shouldn't be too far behind me!
Its kinda funny you hear of peonies being more a northern plant - but all around me as i grew up there were tons of them that I have admired over the years and had no idea of what they were! There was big patch of them at a condo complex across the street from my elementary school - it was at least three feet across, they have always been at my grandfathers and his neighbors houses - it was if they were just standard to have... I am trying to convince my dad that he should let me have some of the big patch at my grandfather's house - before the caretaker moves them all or the 'gardener' (well more the guy that cuts the lawn) kills them all...
davis1676
Disputanta, VA
(Zone 7a)

March 25, 2009
2:14 AM

Post #6315478

I picked up some of the grid wire hoops at Loews for less than $3. Found 2 more of them today, they were a good 5" down. I'm gonna have to slope the ground away from the an awful lot or replant. When would you advise to do that?
Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 25, 2009
3:10 AM

Post #6315740

I'd probably lift them this fall and replant them at the proper depth. You don't want to have them planted in a depression in your garden so water can pool and rot them.
flowrgirl1
Winston-Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

April 3, 2009
12:14 AM

Post #6356748

im glad you are finding them davis. I would hate for all those new goodies to die on ya!
davis1676
Disputanta, VA
(Zone 7a)

April 3, 2009
1:29 AM

Post #6357094

thanks & looking forward to the co-op again later this year!
flowrgirl1
Winston-Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

April 5, 2009
2:04 AM

Post #6365521

No more peony co ops this year. Im just to busy. I was to busy last year so it was exhausting.LOL I will have to wait to do another one when Im not moving around so much.
Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

April 5, 2009
2:11 AM

Post #6365546

You did a fine job last year. :) Co-ops are very hard work and people get quite twitchy when they have a bit of money wrapped up in them. I wouldn't want to do one. :)
Ticker
Lisbon, IA
(Zone 5a)

April 5, 2009
2:12 AM

Post #6365548

However, I bet you Hollingsworth would do another one at the drop of a hat. :)
flowrgirl1
Winston-Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

April 5, 2009
2:42 AM

Post #6365704

Thanks Ticker. I think it prett well to considering. I was a littel behind and lacked in communication but I would never do anything to other peoples money. I love co ops and enjoy hosting them but need to limit myself during my summer since I move around.

I will host one again and Hollingsworth was great to work with. Such great plants and people. I want more peonies!!!LOL
GardeningNC
Durham, NC
(Zone 7b)

April 6, 2009
4:26 PM

Post #6372411

hey flowrgirl - perhaps you could assist me in doing a fall peony co-op, I am working on a perennial one now but I'm about 100% sure it would be over before time to do a peony one... and almost every single one I got from your co-op last year has a bud on it! Let me know! It would be dependent on this first one and how well it goes... it is my first one! :-)

Thanks!
flowrgirl1
Winston-Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

April 6, 2009
5:02 PM

Post #6372607

Of course, assuming I am back to NC in time. Which i should be. You just let me know!
GardeningNC
Durham, NC
(Zone 7b)

April 6, 2009
5:17 PM

Post #6372687

I always use your help in MI if you haven't made it back! We can discuss it :-) take care! hope all is going well for you!... oh - Duke Gardens plant sale is coming up before you leave - if you'd like to go, plmk!
flowrgirl1
Winston-Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

April 6, 2009
11:17 PM

Post #6374363

sounds fun. will have to see. are you paypaling your hellebore payment? Did i dmail you?

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