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AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 21, 2009 10:41 PM Post #6301787
| Big surprise...Clivia!!! peeking out... The sun came out today for about 10 mins...so I had fun taking pictures... Enjoy... Wish you could walk around the garden with me...  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 21, 2009 10:42 PM Post #6301793
| This Vireya is one of my favorites...yes...the color is that vibrant!!!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 21, 2009 10:44 PM Post #6301799
| Dave knows the name of this one...Bob and I keep forgetting and HE forgets to write it down!!!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 21, 2009 10:45 PM Post #6301805
| Here is my very favorite Agapanthus...called Storm King. It was sent to me by a friend in FL years ago and it is the most gorgeous mixture of blues!!!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 21, 2009 10:46 PM Post #6301810
| Blue Jade Vine/Green Jade Vine...  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Lily_love Central, AL (Zone 7b)
March 21, 2009 10:49 PM Post #6301839
| Hi Carol, I wished I could be there and enjoy your garden too. Happy Spring!
This is Yoshino Cherry's blossoms:
Kim Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 22, 2009 02:33 AM Post #6302453
| Hi Carol! It's Ludovia lancifolia.
It's amazing that Spring is well under way down at your place, yet it is still flooding up here! Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 22, 2009 02:48 AM Post #6302466
| Here's the lancifolia part.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Dutchlady1 Naples, FL (Zone 10a)
March 22, 2009 07:12 AM Post #6302651
| Wonderful pictures. I long for that blue Jade... mine died :-( |
AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 22, 2009 12:47 PM Post #6303568
| Thanks Dave...now, to remember that name...Ludovica. Hmmmm. I think I will put that name to a Northern Italian waiter and call it Ludo... the rest will follow. See how small brains work!
Ah, we are still wet and cold...can't wait to see what happens when it DOES warm up and dry out!!!!
Hetty...did it get too cold for your Strongylodon? |
Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 22, 2009 01:46 PM Post #6303856
| Hi Aloha,
Exactly what do you consider COLD? lol
Hap |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 22, 2009 01:58 PM Post #6303922
| Any weather which causes you to shut windows and put clothes on, is cold! |
Lily_love Central, AL (Zone 7b)
March 22, 2009 02:22 PM Post #6304039
| I'd love to visiting Hawaii just to be able to feel 'cold' Ahhh, I'm dreaming.
Kim |
Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 22, 2009 02:34 PM Post #6304089
| AHHHH, it's the ol' "Put The Clothes On Problem"...
ROTFLMBO |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 22, 2009 03:11 PM Post #6304270
| Here is a newly opened flower of Magnolia figo, the Banana Shrub. They smell peculiarly like bananas!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 22, 2009 03:25 PM Post #6304336
| These "Queen Emma Lily" (Crinum) flowers smell so good that they make you want to chase the bees away just to sniff them!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 22, 2009 03:37 PM Post #6304384
| This Bromeliad flower just opened! Not sure what to call this one.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 22, 2009 09:34 PM Post #6305892
| Bromiliad flower" works for me...I like it!
I love the Banana Bush!!! But to me it smells like Juicy Fruit Gum (remember that?)...and they are only fragrant above a certain temperature or a certain amt of light because they aren't fragrant until about 10a.m. Do you find that Dave?
Carol |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 22, 2009 09:54 PM Post #6306004
| I have noticed that the Banana Bush doesn't have much smell early in the morning or when it's raining a lot. |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 22, 2009 09:58 PM Post #6306029
| I miss the morning garden walk around! Nice pics Carol. Bring that camera and come Visit Wayne and I...When you get tired of me, you can move to Waynes place down the street. LOL |
AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 22, 2009 11:05 PM Post #6306309
| HHHHhmmmmmmm mind is working...can you hear the hummmmmmmm. LOL |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 23, 2009 12:06 PM Post #6308053
| and you know a person who works for an airline...do I hear a faster hum? |
goofybulb El Paso, TX (Zone 8a)
March 23, 2009 12:17 PM Post #6308105
| What a beautiful morning stroll, great idea Carol! Thanks, Carol and Dave, and Lily! I had my morning coffee with you all, walking through and looking at your spring flowers!
I LOVE SPRING! (well, I love each season, each for different reasons...)
Alexandra Click the image for an enlarged view.
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RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA
March 23, 2009 12:54 PM Post #6308314
| I so enjoyed as well.
Beautiful pic's everyone.
Rachel |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 02:18 PM Post #6308692
| Here is a newly exposed inflorescence of Pinanga caesia. It has not begun to dump pollen, and the bees have not found it yet.
I will show it later today when it starts doing it's thing! Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 03:07 PM Post #6308886
| This is the newly opened red frond of Chambeyronia macrocarpa, a native of New Caledonia Island.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 03:17 PM Post #6308929
| Center is the black crownshaft of Neoveitchia storkii. An endangered palm from Fiji.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 03:32 PM Post #6308994
| It is wise to stay away from the trunk of Verschaffeltia slpendida, of the Seychells!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 03:42 PM Post #6309035
| This is a young Red Latan Palm, Latania lontaroides, of the Mascarene Islands.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 03:52 PM Post #6309071
| Here is one of the world's smallest palms, Raphis laoensis, of Laos.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA
March 23, 2009 04:02 PM Post #6309104
| The inflorescense on the Pinanga is amazing. How often does that palm bloom?
Rachel |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 04:02 PM Post #6309105
| And this one is from the Big Island: Pritchardia beccariana, a Hawaiian Loulu Palm (pronounced: low-loo).  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 04:21 PM Post #6309194
| Pinanga caesia produces viable inflorescences during the warmer part of the year.
The flower-bud swells behind the crownshaft, then the frond falls off exposing the bud, and the bract encasing the inflorescence then falls away.
The frond fell off last evening, and the bract (seen by the frond) came loose this morning.
 Click the image for an enlarged view.
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rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 23, 2009 04:31 PM Post #6309245
| Nice palms...seems like you have as many as Bob does down the street. I've never seen so many different types before...and that thorny one..now that's one paranoid palm |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 05:03 PM Post #6309368
| Palms have many ways of protecting themselves! I think this one is Licuala jenkinsiana.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 05:13 PM Post #6309413
| It's difficult to get near this Calamus. There are thorns on everything but the leaflets.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 23, 2009 05:25 PM Post #6309461
| We were told that the palms from the Seychelles have thorns as the Civet Cat climbs to get the fruit (seeds) and over the centuries the palms have evolved to keep them away. Once I tripped in the garden and fell...put my hand out to catch myself and guess what palm was there!!!? Yep...took weeks to get the thorns out... |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 05:58 PM Post #6309613
| Funny how things sometimes backfire in Nature. Here is a Betel Nut Palm, Areca catechu, which produces a toxin in it's seeds to keep them from being attacked, yet Hominids have learned to chew the seeds and suck the juice out of them!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 23, 2009 06:08 PM Post #6309644
| I tried to grow one of those..one of my co workers originally from Guam, brought me back seeds..which sprouted, but didn't make it after I put them in the ground. Not sure if it was from being to dry, or wet...they are nice looking trees |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 06:44 PM Post #6309776
| Betel Nut Palms love to be wet!
Clockwise from the left are Betel Nut Fruit recently off the tree, Betel Nuts being cleaned, and a cleaned nut sliced and spread on a Betel Pepper leaf (Piper betle) ready to be folded into a quid and chewed. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 23, 2009 06:47 PM Post #6309792
| and sun exposure? I probably should have planted by the Majesty Palm |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 23, 2009 06:55 PM Post #6309826
| I grow them in the open. They get a lot of sun on days that are not cloudy! |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 23, 2009 07:31 PM Post #6309974
| Thanks, we had problems with squirrels digging them up..the seeds were similar in size to pecans.
Carol has some by the driveway not too far off from the Banyan tree, so I bet some shade is okay. |
AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 23, 2009 10:31 PM Post #6310836
| You want me to bring you some seeds, Randy?
Carol |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 24, 2009 03:05 AM Post #6311578
| naturally |
pogonantha el arish, FNQ Australia
March 24, 2009 07:35 AM Post #6311845
| Nice shots guys. It's interesting comparing what you grow there to here. Aggies, vireyas and clivias would do better in the our highlands ( the Atherton Tablelands) than here. But most of those palms are very happy here.
BTW,a bunch of Betel Nuts trade around these parts for a slab (aussie for carton of beer). There are many Torres Strait Islanders in our community. Ann |
Braveheartsmom Kihei, HI (Zone 11)
March 24, 2009 12:00 PM Post #6312932
| What lovely photos from your gardens, and interesting info...the guys who come to trim the coconuts are always chewing betel nuts and spitting red juice all over the place. They tell me that chewing the nuts gives them a buzz like a cup of very strong coffee...
Jen
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 24, 2009 02:03 PM Post #6313477
| The first time you chew Betel Nuts, you will feel the hair on the back of your neck raise up, and you will have this overall feeling like you need to get up and do something!
If I didn't love coffee and cocoa so much, I'd be chewing more Betel Nuts. |
Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 24, 2009 02:14 PM Post #6313524
| Where can I buy some. Sounds like an answer to prayers.
Hap |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 24, 2009 02:14 PM Post #6313526
| As of last evening, the Pinanga caesia flowers had not opened up.
Last night they began opening and dumping pollen, then falling off the inflorescence.
This morning they are continuing; hopefully the bees will get here soon and help make some seeds! Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 24, 2009 02:54 PM Post #6313685
| That's beautiful.
Hap |
Dutchlady1 Naples, FL (Zone 10a)
March 24, 2009 03:22 PM Post #6313782
| Cool!!
I think I can probably use those betel nuts too. Yeah, where can I get some? LOL |
Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 24, 2009 04:31 PM Post #6314061
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areca_nut#Effects_on_health
Well, so much for that fun.
Hap |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 24, 2009 05:36 PM Post #6314328
| As stated earlier, Betel Nuts contain toxins. You can tell someone with a Betel Nut habit, as it stains their teeth black! |
Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 24, 2009 05:38 PM Post #6314336
| That must look pretty! |
Braveheartsmom Kihei, HI (Zone 11)
March 25, 2009 12:15 AM Post #6315989
| Oh gosh - I thought that was just poor dental health! Yep, what few teeth they have are all black...not going to be trying it anytime soon! |
AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 25, 2009 01:24 PM Post #6317901
| Here's a fun story: In the Botanical Gardens in Onomea (up the coast a bit) they started finding Medinilla magnifica plants popping up all over the place...and with a bit of study, they found these volunteer plants making a path that lined up a hole in the fence to a stand of Betel Nut trees. You guessed it - thieves were sneaking thru the fence, skulking past a big Medinilla bush, picking up the seeds on their shoes/feet and 'sowing' them as they made their way to the Betel Nuts on the ground. They closed the hole in the fence... no more volunteer Medinillas!!! Down at the lower levels, the Medinillas can be very invasive...up here, not so much. |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 01:35 PM Post #6317947
| That reminds me I need to pick mine up from Waynes green house...
Is this a BOP bloom? Click the image for an enlarged view.
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rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 01:36 PM Post #6317952
| Located near the bottom left side of the photo, which is near the top of the plant.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 25, 2009 02:48 PM Post #6318284
| Hi Randy, you may have the Traveler's Tree, Ravenala madagascariensis. The leaves look a bit long to be a common Bird of Paradise.
Here is the Giant or White Bird of Paradise, Strelitzia nicolai. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 25, 2009 02:53 PM Post #6318312
| I agree for there are both in my yard.
The flower is magnificent on both, though.
Hap |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 25, 2009 03:00 PM Post #6318342
| A close-up of the flower!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 25, 2009 03:10 PM Post #6318376
| This is the Traveler's Tree!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 25, 2009 03:33 PM Post #6318482
| Here is a frond falling away from the trunk of Pinanga caesia, and exposing the bract which contains the inflorescence; thus starting the process over again!  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 03:48 PM Post #6318554
| I know! I've said that every since I've bought it. The leaves have always been long, and it grew differently than the other giants. Bought it at Home Depot quite a while ago 8-9 years ago when I first started getting into gardening, so didn't really know much about them. The tag though was Giant Bird of Paradise (which can be meaningless sometimes) and a picture to boot. It does not follow the travellers palm habit either. When it started growing like that, it had me searching the internet to figure it out.
Notice though the close up resembles the BOP s picture of where the blooms emerge, and nothing like the Travelers.
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rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 03:58 PM Post #6318593
| The trunk is exactly like this one http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=6318284 just the leaves are abnormally long, and always have been..I thought perhaps because it was more in shade, was by the fern tree and the soil wasn't the best drained there, but the leaves continue to be long.
2006 photo Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 25, 2009 04:04 PM Post #6318624
| Strelitzia caudata is similar to Strelitzia nicolai, but has longer Banana-like leaves! |
Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 25, 2009 04:24 PM Post #6318733
| Here is my flower of my Travelers, dead as a doornail, but you 'get the picture'.
It's entirely different from the BOP.
Hap Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 25, 2009 04:24 PM Post #6318738
| BTW, this is a crinium that has babies on the bottom. How do separate them?
Hap Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 25, 2009 04:25 PM Post #6318744
| Bloom coming out.
This message was edited Mar 25, 2009 4:25 PM Click the image for an enlarged view.
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rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 04:26 PM Post #6318749
| I'll look that up...here is an 05 picture
 Click the image for an enlarged view.
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rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 04:28 PM Post #6318759
| oh no...and the bloom on mine is coming out like the one you have in the picture...was the trunk like the one in my photo? |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 04:32 PM Post #6318791
| I think your right...it resembles Strelitzia caudata ...just looked at photos in PF.
cool blooms... |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 04:39 PM Post #6318832
| Here is a picture of the full tree, I took today  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 25, 2009 04:45 PM Post #6318878
| Hey Hap, to get the young offsets out safely, they need to be dug. |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 25, 2009 04:49 PM Post #6318899
| Hey Randy, the whole plant looks like the Strelitzia caudata in A. Graf "Tropica".
Aloha, Dave |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 05:05 PM Post #6318980
| Mahalo Dave...it's been years I've been trying to find out.
What does A. Graf "tropica" mean? |
AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 25, 2009 05:55 PM Post #6319239
| TROPICA is a book written by A. Graf...who also wrote Exotica and Botanica. Thick books that cost a fortune and are mostly correct. |
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA
March 25, 2009 06:33 PM Post #6319412
| Oh wow on the Pinanga already fixing to bloom again. I really do like it.
Can anyone on here tell me just how much water does a Majesty Palm actually need? I have read conflicting statement's saying to keep it "wet" not soggy but I have also read to let it dry out some as well.
Thank's
Lovely picture's everyone that has added since the last I checked. Hap. nice Traveler's palm even if it's bloom is dead as a door nail;-)
Rachel |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 06:39 PM Post #6319445
| Rachel, I have a friend who has one growing in the middle of a large pond... |
rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 06:40 PM Post #6319447
| I've read not to let it dry out, they are found in the wild next bodies of water, rivers etc |
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA
March 25, 2009 06:58 PM Post #6319517
| Thank You RJ. I have not been letting mine dry out but some of the leave's are starting to yellow. I have read that these particular palm's can be a challenge to keep healthy looking as a houseplant though.
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Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 25, 2009 07:10 PM Post #6319575
| Aloha, Aloha,
There are two books in my grips that have always been considered my dream books. (I lived in Rochester, NY) They were purchased in the early '70s and are still dearly loved.
What is most relevant is that now is so many live in my garden here in S. Florida. God has been good.
They are from Graf:
1. Exotic House Plants..1973
2 Exotic Plant Manuel...1974
They are treasures.
Hap |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 25, 2009 07:32 PM Post #6319679
| The Majesty Palm, Ravenea rivularis, as it's name implies, likes to grow along riverbanks, and needs a lot of water to do well.
The only palm which likes more water than the Majesty Palm, is it's close relative Ravenea musicalis, which likes to live directly in the flowing water of rivers.
The Majesty Palm below is growing in the low spot of a very wet area; they grow stilt roots in wet areas to support themselves. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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rjuddharrison Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
March 25, 2009 07:36 PM Post #6319702
| Yes, they are terrible house plants, they like humidity and outside, although they look nice and pretty at a certain stage and are attractive palms for their size. A co-worker has been putting his outside after I told him, and bringing it back in and it has improved...
I'm going to have to check some of my books and see if I have one..I never paid attn to the authors name before. |
RachelLF Rural Retreat, VA
March 25, 2009 08:08 PM Post #6319860
| I will have to look for the book's that you mentioned Hap.
The Majesty palm is a beautiful one and her name fit's her to a "T".
I have added a "iron" supplement to see if it help's. Humidity here during our Winter month's are a problem for us "non" tropical dweller's but I have managed to keep it around 68-70% in the room's that have most of the plant's that thrive in high humidity.
Thank's again to all of you for helping me out.
Rachel
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AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 26, 2009 01:43 AM Post #6321107
| HAP...Grafs' books are thorough and wonderful reference points...IF...you consider that not everything is correct in his book (is it in any book?). If you look at the genus Hoya you will see mistakes... almost every genus. I don't mean to rain on your parade, and that certainly is NOT my intention...
There is ONE plant on the mainland I could not grow for love nor money...Ficus benjamaina...I must have spent my food budget on that plant yearly and for one reason or another I could not grow it: too drafty, too dry, too wet, too bright, too dark, too warm, too cold...ad nauseum. We have one growing in our front here...as big as a mountain 30' in diameter... Too drafty? Too dry? Too wet? Too bright? It only wants to take over the world... |
Happy_1 Fort Lauderdale, FL (Zone 10b)
March 26, 2009 08:05 AM Post #6321484
| Aloha,
I realize that no books are perfect, but for reading when it's -15 and 4' of snow is on the ground, they become pretty close.
There is a problem with the Ficus b. here too. It grows like gang busters until we have a cold snap or a hurricane, then there is disaster. There is a street not far that is named for them and up until a couple of hurricanes ago, there were monster trees lining the street and making an arbor with their branches. It was a beautiful site. Also the shade that they produced made a sort of wonderland for the owners. Some had trunks 10-15' wide.
But alas, one night they were all gone and the poor people had to deal with the FULL SUN. That area has never recovered...such a shame.
This past year, they have also contracted a white fly and most of the hedges are defoliated. Some say that they will come back.
I believe that they are now banned from being planted here.
Hap
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AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 26, 2009 01:07 PM Post #6322796
| Yes...they are considered invasive here too...but we have never had one 'volunteer' but find their roots all over the place!!! |
Metrosideros Keaau, HI
March 26, 2009 01:28 PM Post #6322888
| At present the pollinator wasp for Ficus benjamina does not occur in Hawai'i. It will not spread by seed.
A similar plant which is seen along roadsides, Ficus microcarpa, does have a pollinator wasp and spreads by seed, and has become very invasive.
As long as the wasp does not show up for Ficus benjamina, it is safe to plant. The fruit it drops will have non-viable seed. |
AlohaHoya Keaau, HI (Zone 11)
March 26, 2009 02:10 PM Post #6323051
| Good to know...I think you told me that before, Dave. I guess what we have IS the benjamina...drops lots of fruit!!! I rake up the fruit and the leaves to mulch my dayliily beds... |
tropicbreeze noonamah Australia
March 26, 2009 08:47 PM Post #6324623
| I have Ficus benjamini seedlings coming up but only in other trees, particularly in my African Oil Palms. And I've got about a dozen huge Fbs. Probably we have organisms that keep their numbers down as a lot of other ficuses are far more common here. The longer dry season would help slow them down as well.
Liked the look of the Pinanga caesia. I've got a Pinanga kuhlii that just sat a couple of years but now is taking off. With the mottley leaves I thought there was something wrong with it. Looking around though, there were lots like that and it turns out it's normal. |