I thought it might be cool to start a thread that would allow us to 'tour' each others' greenhouses. I find this helpful sometimes for getting new ideas for things to do as new projects in mine. Sometimes when you see what other people do it gives you ideas. Size does not matter. Purpose does not matter. After all, this is to share new ideas.
So I'd like to start by giving a small history of my greenhouse and how it came to be in my possession, LOL.
I started collecting plants in California in the late 1980's and early 1990's. I had a lot of cool cacti, succulents, etc and some tropicals. I had tropical water lilies and cool things. But we had to leave it all behind, mostly, when we moved to FL in 1992. I was able to bring a few things, but mostly had to restart 'collecting' when I got here. I ditched cacti and succulents and started collecting tropical plants, mainly heliconias and tropical gingers, bromeliad, plumerias and orchids. I met a friend who has a 2000 sq ft greenhouse and we shared many plants. I started going to trades and to sales at gardens and collected even more.
It started to get a bit 'cramped' in the house especially in winter when I had to drag everyone in the house. We decided to move from the house we had in town to outside the city limits in December 2001. By that time I had a HUGE collection of all kinds of tropical plants. We had the plans for the present greenhouse all done and in the works before we ever got to the house. Construction started almost immediately in March 2002. My friend helped me move all my collection over. We had a UHaul truck and it took all day and 5 packed loads to bring everything over. After the greenhouse was finished I planted most all of my things inside of it, into the ground.
The greenhouse has undergone a lot of changes over the years. My focus has moved away from heliconias (I had over 40 different specimens) and gingers to palms, orchids, hoyas, and all types of aroids. But I also have ferns, calatheas, tropical vines, begonias and many other things.
March/April is the time when I 'open' the greenhouse every year. Starting tomorrow I will be taking out all the 'winter boarders' and repotting them, fertilizing them, and setting them into the yard in their various places to serve as accent plants for what is planted outside. I will also be dividing plants in the greenhouse to trade and to plant out as annuals, cleaning up and grooming everything, fertilizing, etc. I also take a new set of photos every year to see how things have grown.
Here are a few photos from today. First, I'd like to introduce myself. Many people are scared to put their photos on the web, But gee whiz, this is a GARDEN site. I don;t think its dangerous. So this is me.
Here is a photo of what you see as soon as you open the sliding door on the side of the greenhouse...the Strongolydon macrobotrys (Emerald Creeper; Green Jade Vine) is in bloom and its blooming PROFUSELY.
When you step in, you can look across the way, through the Jade Vines, the Epipremnums and hoyas that drape down, and see a palm called Salacca magnifica. This is a huge 'entire leaf' palm that currently has fronds about 10 ft long. At maturity, the fronds will reach 20 ft in length. The palm in front of that is a Licuala grandis
I don't know how to do that, Christi. Threegardens, its a little over 1700 sq ft
Let's say you go in the door and pass the Pemba palm. Then you would see this...a Ruffle Palm about 8 ft tall. There are some hanging plants around it, this time of year, the yellow nobile dendrobium just happens to be in full bloom. This palm grows beside a 20 ft stream
Here's a close up of the orchids, I don;t have its name (anymore) but its one of my favorite specimen plants, I've had it for years. The vine with the roundish leaves that is going haywire everywhere is a Hoya obovata. The Philodendron climbing the wall to the left is one of my younger specimens of the one called Philodendron "imbe" variegated. I don't believe that's its correct name.
This is the other aisle, which has Carambola, Plumeria obtusa, papaya, some kind of variegated Tradescantia I think, Jaboticaba, and a sad little Wrightia religiosa that looks like it needed some water!
Goth. I had NO doubt in my mind just how lovely your place is;-) Your collection of tropical's is so admirable from the few that I have viewed in the short amount of time I have been a member to this site.
Keep posting pic's of individual plant's that live with you when you have time or want to. May I make a request? Philodendron's and especially the Foliage piece's of Anthurium's that you have.
Stressbaby, that was a great tour! It looks very lush in there. I grew a few papaya for a while but gave them up because I really don;t like to eat them, LOL. I prefer Mangos so I planted a 'patio' mango that is supposed to fruit before it reaches 90-100 feet. The curcuma Candy Cane is one of my favorites. I grew it for several years at my old house, but when we moved it was dormant and I 'missed' bringing some over to the new place. (I dug rhizomes and plants of almost everything I had in-ground and brought it with me, as well as all my containerized stuff)
Rachael, that's very kind of you to say! Thank you. I enjoy my hobby a lot. If you like philos you would like this one, P. "Golden erubescens". Its a bright yellow climber. This specimen grows on the wall directly across from the Ruffle Palm. It was a teensy cutting a few years ago, I got it as a trade. Now its up to over 8 ft.
Those are amazing pics. I'm ready for more. I'll be dreaming of my future greenhouse while sleeping tonight...and tomorrow...and well you know, lol! So, in the meantime, I will gladly enjoy your greenhouses. Thanks so much for sharing! ;-)
I am new around here and I just ordered my 8 x 12 greenhouse! Boy, am I out classed! I am just thinking about growing a few tomatoes. You people are amazing. Thanks for the tour. I may post a picture when mine is up. Thanks for the inspiration! mary
The size of your greenhouse doesn't matter. Its what you do with it, LOL! I wanted to grow some aquatics in my greenhouse so I have always had a pond. This is the 2nd one, but you can;t really tell its a pond unless you are actually in the greenhouse standing beside it. Its ringed with all sorts of plants...orchids, bromeliads, anthuriums, calathea, some palms and a large 20 ft Bauhinia (orchid tree) shades it some on one end. Actually in the pond I maintain a large mat of Lasia spinosa, and some colocasias. These are the leaves of the Lasia, its a huge plant, an aquatic aroid.
I find having water in the greenhouse extremely helpful in helping keep the air more moist in our dry winters. This pond is about 50 gallons, and there is another 50+ gallon still pool and a 20 ft stream as well.
You can see a little eentsy bit of the stream in this shot. The plant in the foreground is a really neat ginger, Alpinia rugosa. This ginger was imported into the US by Dr. Tom Wood, who is a local resident here and an expert on gingers. This specimen is containerized, I actually moved it out of the GH today to a spot under a bottlebush tree where it will summer.
That stream is totally amazing. How did you build up the change in elevation for your stream? What is the source of water? Did you start with an over all plan or did it just evolve? Certainly with 1700 sq ft you had to be thinking of more than growing my tomatoes! Mary
I love your tropical greenhouses. Unfortunately, I live in the Northeast and would have to pay alot more for heat if I kept my greenhouse above 60 consistently. I am jealous!! I have a greenhouse that is attached to my house so that I can go in there and putter even in 0 degree weather. I heat it with the woodstove in my family room. I just purchased a new sunshed this winter so I can use it as a cold frame. Ihave attached a picture of my greenhouse. I brought it from Canada and my husband built it. It is insulated as much as possible!!
Bonnie, those are wonderful! We thought about adding a lean to this summer on a part of our house but decided against it. With the economy and everything we didn't want to let the $$ go.
Mary, the stream was part of the GH 'evolution', LOL. One day I looked at a foresty maze of 10-18 ft heliconias that I was having a very difficult time keeping the mealies and scale off of, and I decided that it was time for a change. So I began digging out the heliconias and a lot of other plants and containerizing them. I eventually traded all the heliconias away, but kept the other stuff while I decided what to do.
Then one day we went down to the University to walk through the Butterfly Rainforest they built there and I saw their stream. It made me think also of the "Amazon Crocodile Stream" at the Dallas aquarium, and I decided, "I want a stream too!" So I built one.
I have some photos in Photobucket I will dig out and post of the stream while it was being built. It wasn;t hard, I purposefully made it as easy as possible, LOL.
That was what I was hoping to see on this thread...other things and features people have done in their greenhouses that make them sort of unique. Ways of planting, ways of hanging, space management, hiding 'ugly' practicle stuff, and cool plants!
This photo is of some of the plants currently at the 'head' of the stream. These have changed a couple of times over the period that the stream ha sbeen installed...at one time I had a huge 20 ft tall Bauhinia tree at the streamhead, but it kept dropping leaves and was a real pain to prune to keep it off the ceiling at that location, so I removed it and planted the palms. There are also begonias, some bromeliads, alocasias, and a stand of variegated Phaius orchids that happen to be in full bloom at the moment
What a great idea for a thread.
Gothqueen, thanks for the photo of you (love your short hair) and of your greenhouse, it really is a tropical paradise. I don't remember how you heat your greenhouses, it gets cold in Gainesville, doesn't it? Your plants are really lovely.
Stressbaby, your greenhouse is so nice! It looks like a teaching facility. I can't believe you grow papayas. What is a Musa DC? And what is the C of your candy cane?
Bonnie, I love your cedar greenhouse and shed, they are so pretty! I would love to have a greenhouse attached to the house, so I don't have to scamper across the yard on cold nights. We though about connecting ours, so we could use the heat from sunny winter days, but just couldn't work it out.
Ok-maybe if I say here that I will take pictures tomorrow of them then I will...although it is supposed to be cloudy and raining tomorrow, and grhouses always look better in sunny days. Mine are also kind of boring-just tons of potted annuals
We still need to see them. We might disagree with you.
This is how I made my stream. I wasn't going for anything really deep. I just wanted some water moving through. I dug a channel 20 ft long from the back wall of the GH towards the front and ended it in a 3 ft deep pool. I bought a pre-fab waterfall fixture (yeah, I cheated, but you can;t tell because its now covered in moss and plants and looks very natural) and ran a piece of tubing from the pool to the fall and connected it to a pond pump, then covered the tubing with a layer of gravel, river rock and other things. Then I edged it with flat stones and filled it up and its been going ever since.
There is a large goldfish that lives in the still pool and some minnows that swim up and down the streamcourse, and some frogs live in here year round.
I planted things in the stream and along the sides. Its pretty cool, I like it a lot. I have orchids, hoyas, bromeliads, and epicacti that hang in baskets from the ceiling over the pond too.
I have a pool bubble green house here in Washington, DC. We workout in the pool. The heated water warms the interior air. We take advantage of this by keeping most of our outdoor plants in there all winter.
It's an extreme rainforest kind of greenhouse, 100% humidity 24/7, plus dripping off the ceiling. We spray with fungicide before moving the plants in, and as necessary.
The other thing I discovered was that the interior air maintains a very high level of carbon dioxide, from the pool chemicals outgassing CO2.
The combination It produces some interesting effects.
How big is your pool???
Ours is 15 x 30 and does not have a pool screen over it (which is almost blasphemy in Florida).
If you don;t mind me asking, how much did your pool bubble system cost, and where did you get it?? That's something we might like...we don;t swim in the pool until late April here, it doesn;t get warm enough til then
Really strange. I NEVER take pictures of my greenhouse and the plants. I takes oodles of pictures of my gardens, but never even once think of taking pictures in there. I am in beautiful Key West this week so I can't take any pictures, but will when I return. I, like other northerners, mostly overwinter my tropical like plants, propagate for my outdoor gardens, and then seed in early spring. Right now I have about 30 flats of seedlings. I love to give plants away to all my relatives and friends.
I love the plants here in Key West, but wouldn't even think of trying to overwinter some. Many require consistent temperatures over 70.
How do you handle pests in your greenhouse? Do you have an ecosystem where different pests eat others? I am afraid I constantly fight aphids and this year, My Sky Blue Thunbergia got spider mites. The leaves were covered with some sticky stuff, turned yellow and fell off. I don't like using pesticides so I bought ladybugs to eat the aphids, but I have no idea how to handle the spiders. They are white and weird looking. Anybody fought spider mites and won???
I had a big battle with pests when I had all the foliage from the closely packed heliconias in there. Mealies, scale and mites. But getting rid of all that foliage pretty much cleared the problem. I get an occasional infestation now, mainly on stuff like plumeria and I have to pay attention to the Cattleya alliance orchids, they are pest magnets for some reason. I do a couple of Neem Oil sprays at the beginning of the season, in sequence, and I treat the large trees (bauhinias, plumerias, and some of the palms) with a drenching of the Bayer Systemic in Spring so it can come out in the new growth. Otherwise, I just keep a watch out to catch anything as soon as it starts and Neem it out of existance. I try not to use pesticides like Orthene, Cygon etc anymore, as I have a breeding colony of green treefrogs in the greenhouse that hatch babies out in the tanks of my bromeliads, and I also have a few snakes that live in there and many 'stream frogs' and toads. I don;t want to harm them. They do keep some pests in check, but for the frogs, it has to move or they don;t eat it, so they don't help with scale and mealies. The fish in the ponds and streams eat mosquito larva in the water and I have dragon and damselflies as well.
I also keep a bottle of Ivory dish soap in th GH and mix up a soap spray for spot-use at any time.
Running the overhead sprinklers nightly also helps a lot to keeping pests down, and keeps my predators happy.
Here's an orchid in bloom at the moment, peeking out between a palm frond
All righty then-I actually took some pictures today and here they are!
This is what we call # 1 grhouse. It was the first that I built back in 1991. Its the one that I throw all my tropical plants in, in October, just before a frost when we are always in a rush. As a result-and because I have too many tropicals, its always in a state of chaos. It takes me a few months to get it under control, and now , as I need the room for the annuals, I have just shoved everything underneath, so you really cant see them, except for a few here and there.
this is the other side of #1. You can see a bunch of heliconias at the very end of the aisle, and a red and a pk torch ginger, but they are all stacked in back of each other. Some are over 8' or more and in containers. Like I said before-not sure if these pictures show very much!
forgot to say that the flashlight in the previous picture is for when i have to go slug hunting at night. Easier to get them in the dark. This winter has been unusually bad for them and they were on the top shelf eating all the petunias when they were babies. I got 12 the first night!
This picture is the table in #2-some of the tropicals that will go out in a month.
here is the right side of #2. The empty flats have caladiums in them and haven't popped yet. They are closest to the heater. There are a bunch of flats underneath near the heater also, as there are in all the grhouses. When they pop, then they come up to one of the middle shelves to get light so they grow faster. Kind of hard to see any plants in this picture, was afraid of that.
Now we are in # 3 grhouse. This is my new puppy-isn't she a sweetheart? Her name is Chloe and she is 6 months old-already weighs over 60 lbs, but she looks very lean to me. Her dad is a Anatolian Shephard, which I had never heard of, but she looks just like him, and her mother is a German Shephard. Both the dogs love to lay in front of that heater (any of them) when its on, but maybe not quite that close-but only a few feet back. It always amazes me as that is a very large heater-a 200K btu and it puts out some heat. They love it! They hear the heater click on and get up and lay there waiting for the heat to come out.
Here is the left side of # 3 with Bear taking a nap. All the tags on the ground are from when the fan comes on and blows them off the table. Which is why he is sleeping there-he loves that air blowing in when its hot out. I can't tell you how many times I have almost stepped on him when I am carrying a stack of filled flats and its at night, and I can't see over the flats.
Very cool! And yes that is a great agave. We have those planted out all over the place here, they are my favorites. There are some really huge specimens around town too.
Do you use all your plants for your own use?
I do the same thing, I propagate selected things to plant out every year.
here are some more tropicals that will go out in a month. They are on the ground by the heater. I did have the ornamental grasses there, but the dogs were eating them-so they are outside now. We go through this every year. One time I was loading an order and Bear was standing there eating the grass that I was sending out..
Gothqueen-I guess I forgot to say that these are commercial grhouses. I am a small wholesale bedding plant grower. I sell to landscapers, Duke University etc. My crop is basically presold, and I grow some extras as well. So most everything that you see will be gone by the end of May. I would take a gun (if I had one) and shoot myself if I had to deal with all these annuals all summer! lol There are hundreds of flats of just one type of plant in there. some are already outside, and we haven't even finished taking cuttings or transplanting what there will be. Lots of work still...
This is an area of my greenhouse in the very front corner, up by the pond. The photos that follow show what it was before it came to look like this. The centerpiece now is a young Kerriodoxa elegans palm, with a thin feathery Chamaedorea palm growing up behind it. There are also numerous anthuriums, hoyas and other plants growing here
here are some more caladiums that have started to come up.
I keep most of my tropical palms and larger tropicals -jasmines, citrus , tropical bamboos etc in the house as you can see there is no room for them. That is why I want to build a grhouse like yours where I can plant them. I did take a room in the middle of the house that didnt have any windows and put a 4' x 4' skylight in it and that works great for a bunch of the palms-I think I have over 80 of the palms that are tropical and have to stay inside. It is getting out of hand-to say the least...lol
This is the striped bromeliad from the last photo, its an unusual variegated Nidularium. I summer it outside now, its gotten very huge, its about 3x bigger than when the last pic was taken and has already had an offset that I have planted out in the yard.
Tigerlily, that's pretty cool. You have a very large business there! I wouldn;t be able to part with some of that stuff though, I can always find places to plant stuff around here! Your Areca palm is really nice. I have one in the greenhouse about 12 ft tall, and one in a container on the deck that's smaller. They are really nice palms
thanks Gothqueen-i don't part with my personal stuff-but the commercial stuff is easy to part with-esp considering that I am getting paid for it! that is actually a Dypsis decaryi. When I lived in Hawaii-there were Arecas all over the place, and its one palm that I don't have here. I guess I saw too many of them there.
Here is a Caryota Ochlandra. I got this as a liner about 3 yrs ago-it was maybe 1.5' high. They grow very fast. I don't think that I am going to put it in a bigger pot to try to keep it from growing so fast
Forgot to ask, Rachael, whats in St.Aug? I went to school there ages ago! We used to laugh about how it had the oldest everything...school, fort etc
Tigerlily, exactly every thing you stated in your small paragraph;-)
St. Augustine Florida "is" the most relaxing place I have ever visited in my life and take it from me...I have visited many other place's in Florida through out my year's...all the way down to Miami, Key West and way beyond.
Rachael-I think thats the first time ever that someone asked me why i moved from St. Aug instead of why I moved from Hawaii! lol The answer is that I moved to Hawaii. I was just in college in St. Aug. They were fun years though. One year a friend and I had a house out on the island, on the beach-huge house (rent was so cheap then) and came in every day to school. It was freezing in that house in the winter. Lots of good memories of the bars (all 3 of them! lol).
lakeside-I am really busy during the crops. I basically work 7 days a week during a crop ( I grow 2 crops a year), but then I get 4 months off . I usually have 2-3 fulltime/parttime people depending on the size of the crop and where we are in the crop. I love it! I love the growing and how it expands, and I also love to see it all go! It also keeps me in shape, without having to workout.
I love Caryotas too! I have several in the GH. they are still pretty small but they grow into monsters really fast, don't they? I bought a couple of Caryota zebrina from an eBay vendor for a very cheap price (like, $7 each...before folks 'noticed' them and they started selling for $30+)...they were about 5-6" when I got them and are now 18" or more and the trunks are showing the striping. Its hard for me to get photos of some of the st'individual palms in the GH, especially the pinnate and fishtails, because they seem to get 'lost' in all the background 'noise'. I do need to photograph a lot of my palms for growth documentation though. Here are a few smaller growers, little rainforest understory palms. I have a small Dypsis decaryi planted in the yard. It went through the 20's this winter without even leafburn! Much better than my Areca would have. They do look very similar though, to me anyway.
Rachel you are welcome to stop in on your way to St Augustine! We go over there occasionally. We like to eat at the A1A Ale House (I think that's what its called...). My husband loves O'Steens too. Being a vegetarian its hard for me to find food at O'Steens though.
Tigerlily, if I ever got to Hawaii, they'd have to take me out in a box. No way I would leave on my own!!!!
lol It took my ex-husband two years of trying to introduce me to the idea and I only did it to "compromise" for the relationship. That went well...
I was there for 10 yrs and that is really where my heart is, in terms of where to live.
I do love the caryotas. I have a zebrina too-it came in very small and sat there for a yr and now it is growing. I have a no, and that needs a bigger pot. I also like/have ptychospermas-the look of the leaf and the new red leaves that come out. There aren't many palms that I don't love. I even moved a palm collection that I had where I lived on Maui (way up a deserted valley) to the Big Island when we moved to there. That was like 30 yrs ago. I helped start the Big Island Palm Society chapter-there was hardly any of us that grew palms back then-can you believe it? The whole time I lived in Hi, I never had electricity, let alone the internet. It kills me, the plants/palms I could have had access to if I had stayed there. All my palms were started from seeds that I had to buy. The possibilities are endless today with all the nurseries out there.
Tigerlily, I understand now. I have been to Waikiki but never had a chance to look around much into all the Flora there unfortunately. I enjoyed your writting's down memory lane of St. A. ;-) I guess if I had the "dollar's" to visit Hawaii as much as I do St. A. I would more than likely choose Hawaii over Florida!!!!;-)
Thank you Gothqueen for the welcome. It's much appreciated but I have to agree with your husband...O'steen's has some of the best seafood I have ever ate and the line's are worth the wait to get a seat. Schooner's is my pick though.
I make them a few different ways depending on the location. That one was the easiest. I had some big cork bark plaques, and I just drilled holes in them and wrapped them to the 4x4 corner support of the GH. They stay up very well.
I also wrap PVC pipes and old drip irrigation hoses with cocofiber sheets and use those as totems.
here is one of my caryotas...this is a sp. 'Himilaya' sitting between a torch ginger
You are right, it is hard to separate out the plants in pictures. Thats what I meant about my grhouses...(not to mention that all my tropicals, that are in there, are under the shelves-like forgotten children-I feel like I have grounded them or something :) ) It would be more fun to be there in person and see each plant. Whats that tree/hardwood plant to the far right? It looks familiar. Have you had the torch ginger bloom yet? They are so awesome the way that they rise out of the ground. They have some really cool ones now-whitish/pk etc that weren't around when I lived in Hi.
The tree is a Bauhinia. I have some different ones. Oh yeah, the torch blooms all the time. That one is E. fulgens. Its a tulip torch. I have also grown and bloomed E. elatior red and pink, but I ended up removing them from the greenhouse after 3-4 years, the stalks were over 20 feet long and the rhizome mass just kept spreading and spreading...the E. fulgens is a lot more manageable
GQ, what in heaven's name do you do in the summer? When did you start this GH?
After Hurricane Wilma, there is no screening around my pool either. Boy, what a change in our lives. My DH and I almost never sat outside, for it felt like a cage. Now with wide open spaces, it seems like a country club in the islands. It has even boosted my interest in the gardens for they can be really seen now.
Tiger, what a job you have. In some ways you are envied, and others...just too old! Certainly a labor of love.
I have been so busy I haven;t been able to take any new photos! We got back from the Boston Marathon late Tuesday and I have been playing catch up ever since. I have been able to get 1/2 the greenhouse paths weeded and re-mulched. Many many of my hoyas are in bloom at the moment...obovata, publicalyx, carnosa, pachyclada, camphoripholia (sp), lacunosa, kerrii, etc and others...
gothqueen I have enjoyed your pictures and I bet with all those hoyas blooming it must smell wonderful!!!! I've been considering leaving my hoyas in my GH. They are loving it right now. My GH was a HF one that my DH had them use wood instead of the metal frame and just used the polycarbon panels. It's 10X12. I have enjoyed it for 2 winters now and just put a space heater in it with a thermostat. Glad you enjoyed your trip. I bet that was fun!!!!
Nothing fancy growing in my GH. I don't use it in the winter. It's full of daylies right now waiting for warmer weather before they go outside. I wish I could keep a bunch of tropicals in there, but too expensive to heat it in zone 5. I've enjoyed looking at everyone's pictures.
I just found this awesome thread. I've envisioned a greenhouse once we move to FL permanently. I have a 2 story "studio" out back and have thought of building a green house off one side. Would never be anything as large as these but I do love tropicals.
I lived in HI for 7 years and had orchids everywhere. Brought a few back with me (15 years ago) but they never did rebloom. I now have a collection of @10 and know they will be much happier in FL than they are in MD - especially in the winter.
I'm not far from Gainsville and would love to come and visit.
I'm not sure if I'll use it all year or not. The inside temp now reaches 110F when its 85 outside. later in the summer when the temp reaches 100F outside i'm looking at 125 on the inside. Very hot for young plants. So instead of moving my plants outside and then moving them back in when the seasons change, i'm toying with the idea of installing an automotive fan, powered by a 12v battery which is kept charged with a small solar panel.. I believe this will help protect my plants during the hot months. I'll let you know how it works out.
ou need an exhaust fan set up to pull air through the GH constantly. In your dry climate you could easily set up a pretty effective swamp cooler as well, by rigging a perforated pipe or a drip hose to keep a few towels constantly wet at the back end and have the fan pull air through them toward the front
Very good points, eggs + goth. I hadn't thought about how much air the fan would be moving thru the house. I will have to reconsider. Mostly I was thrilled about going solar and saving energy costs. There isn't much on the market in the way of solar powered fans. Thanks for your input.
I'm sure not having a problem with humidity here, it has rained nearly every day lately, and will for several days more. The rivers are coming up again. I've got to get my rain barrels set up. I goofed and made the strawberry beds permanent in the greenhouse, they need to be outside to get all this lovely rain. Almost everything else is planted, the shelves are getting empty.
Solar fans are either tiny or whole house, cheap or several hundred dollars, nothing in between that I've been able to find.
I was noticing posts from someone in Ramona California. I live in the high desert of Kingman, AZ. I was planning on using my greenhouse, all glass as a potting shed in summer. It will have ventilation, but is on the south side of the house. So now I am seeing I might need a shade cover too or small swamp cooler.
I have Christmas lights hanging up? I wonder how much heat they will give off. I walked over to a lit tree at Lowes yesterday and held the bulb in my fingers they were warm not hot but with several it may be enough?
If you were protecting a special plant, I hear people wrap the twinkles around them. But you are talking about raising the temp in an area. Start out with one and check the temp at night. Those lights go into a regular light socket, so it's not anything out of the ordinary. Just make sure you have an 'out-door' extension and light socket.
Hi Lori I have a 10'X12' GH with the polycarbon siding. I housed hoyas and plumeria in there last year and just used one of those little electric heaters with a thermostat. I set it to lo 60 degrees and everything did well here in zone 8B. This year I converted that GH to just hoyas and succulents. We are enclosing the awning to our guest house which is 13'X45' and we are using the ready-made Clearview panels. I have flagstone flooring which will hold the heat some and I have a window unit with heat strip in the guest house. This unit should also add to the heat some and if necessary I can always add another little hearter.
By theory this should work. I sure pray it does!!!!
My plans are to try to stick to a small amount of plants in the greenhouse I hope to buy most that will winter outdoors by them self. I am new to this don’t want to see my $$ dried and dead. We will see how well thing turn out in spring. Hope it won’t be an upset.
I use a small space heater that blows heat with a small fan in my 8x8, set at 60 it keeps the greenhouse about 55. I'm adding a solar water heater this year, in the process of setting it up. If it works, 100 gallons of water will be heated during the day to radiate heat in the evening. Now if the sun would just come out; it has been unusually cold and rainy here. In addition to keeping some tender plants through the winter, I grow cool weather veggies. I moved my basil plant in there today, it smells wonderful!
This was my GH in the summer 08, 6x8 feet, it came with the home. I started 60 tomatoes and transplanted them to the garden, but I wanted more room.
On the left you can see the start of a 16' addition my SIL helped me build, from old wooden windows, cost for the addition, around $600.
The winter of 08 it got cold and my rabbit's water bottles froze so I move them inside the GH, which helped with the heat.
Papa on the right, Mama on the left, Teens (ready for the freezer) in the center.
Rabbit Poo is Great for the garden.
Inside I installed two recycled paddle fans which are on a thermostat and vent the air out the 5 windows at the roof top. They run most of the day in the Summer. The dark panel, lower left is 'shading' to help cut the heat. It is now removed.
My SIL made this sign when we were building the 16' addition because my wife was complaining about the money spent.
I will stop for now. I do love my GH, it was one of my wishes when we moved from Florida to northern Kentucky.
I could post more but don't want to hog this thread.
Rentman, your greenhouse is so pretty, I love the green color! It would be a neat building even if it wasn't a greenhouse!
I truly think of my greenhouse as a sanctuary. In the winter I love to sit out there and look at the plants. Nice potting bench too!
I lived in West Palm too! Sometimes I miss the ocean, but I don't miss the traffic and the people. I used to work with a native WPB-er, she used to tell us stories of how different the place used to be. I left in '94 and probably wouldn't recognize the place now.
I've been working on the door area of the GH today. Built the Dutch door (the upper white window (recycled), couple weeks ago and putting a small roof over the door. Will have enough room on each side to hang plants and maybe build a seat to sit on and drink my beer ^_^
I do love south FL, have lots of friends there but no family. And I was a Rentman there for 30 years, sold out at the top of the market and now am here with my children.
We still have a small townhouse in FL. and both sides of the family go down and use it for a few weeks now and then.
It helps to speak Spanish down there, for sure. ^_^
Oh Yes Happy, it is wonderful to be close to the kids. Sunday dinner is a family tradition now.
lakesidecallas..the Green paint color was my wife's idea and a good one.
I came in, tired after working on the addition and was talking about paint.
I did not want White and ask her...She said, "Well you know how much I love the color of Money", so Green it is...
We still have a lot of fun after 43 years.
Now it's not really 'getting better' but we do laugh a lot more... ^_^
Love that Girl a lot.
We installed Clearview Plastic on our existing awning over the guest house. We have a heat pump in the guest house and my niece lives in there. We're hoping with the exhaust from the heat pump that no colder than we get that will be enough.
You can see the window unit on the right in this picture that I'm hoping will exhaust some heat into the enclosure. If necessary I can put a little heater out there. But we may be 25 degrees for maybe 10 hrs at a time. I enclosed 1/2 of this area a few years back with visqueen and it was a nightmare. I COULD NOT get the bottom secure and every time the temperature would drop the visqueen came loose and I was back out there trying to re-secure it. The plumerias did just fine even with that. It was me that almost didn't survive!!! LOL!!!!
Oh Cathy4 I so feel for you having to deal with the mud. we are just starting into that period of time of year were we will end up with a lake, (that is what I call it) in the back yard, and I 've got to cross it each time I take my collies out to the back fenced yard. DH wouldn't let me fence all the way to the back of the house, so now I've got to cross a lake and deal with mud then it is a ice skating rink then turns back to lake and mud with maybe a month or two that its dry.
Well here is hoping the sun comes out tomorrow, tomorrow... for ya.
Rentman, that greenhouse is really showing some new improvements. I remember about the dutch door. I have been missing from the forums. Upset that my greenhouse was probably going to be on hold or not at all. But hubby put 3 walls together on his day off. He just butted the windows together with wood and I think we will have to reinforce both sides. It is now back to being on the platform we already have next to our shed and the shed will be one wall. So it will be 6 by 9. I hope it all works out. Not sure on the venting yet. It will have one door. I may not be able to use it in summer as it will be a cooker. But at least I can overwinter and maybe start some seedlings. I would like to do Coleus, haven't had any in years. Just so he gets it up, I can make anything junky even look good.
Well, my greenhouse isn't a dream after all. The location went back on the wood platform next to our shed and is in the sunniest location. I just want to overwinter plants from extreme temps at night. I am afraid it will be a hot house in the summer , but we will see. Working on the ventilation and a dutch door. We made trusses tonight and have some heavy plastic canvas sign material to make a roof and double side it so it is white on both sides and the lettering doesn't show. I think we may have enough to put on the floor to protect it from water spills. I have shutters to put up too, pretty much it will come out like the original all window white one with shutters I shared a pic of first. I also was thinking of growing evergreen jasmine up and over it to filter the extreme sun. I have one already that does well but does not take over the planet. I have chicken wire or stucco wire I could attach to the back of the greenhouse and plant one there, the water is nearby to put in a bubbler and I might use those 300 brick I got and build a patio there too. Nice place to sit in winter.
Another pic. Front, hope to put a dutch door in, a friend will give me a door, just have to see if I can cut it if it is solid wood. The top has window panes in diamonds. We hope to vent out the end of the gables on both sides, the roof line will be opposite to the shed next to it.
Really looking good Linda!!! I know that you are getting excited!!!! How cold does it get where you live? Most people that put their GH in direct sun have to get a shade cloth to protect their plants from burning. So I would think yours will be just fine.
Nice GH, Dan...Is that a papaya to the left. I moved here 3 years ago from W. Palm Beach where I lived most of my life.
Tried to keep a banana plant in my GH but I killed it, some way. Sure miss some of those plants that almost grow wild down there.
When we retired and moved south to AR, I wanted a greenhouse for tender plants that couldn't stay outside. After much thought and discussion, we decided against a stand-alone, and settled for an attached one. It has been a joy indeed. We use it for housing our plants in winter, dining and entertaining in the summer, crafting, reading, and listeing to music (DH installed speakers.)
DirtyGirl; Something like that. We leave them all alone, and a friend comes in and talks to them while we are in FL and tells them that their friends that I took to FL will be back to see them in the spring. If I have orchids in spike, we take them with us.
Rentman. If you decide to come down, maybe you could bring your pick ax (aka Arkansas shovel) and do some outside work while you're at it. Love your "green" house and all of the improvements you have made to it. Love your wife's suggestion -- the color of money!
Your greenhouse is awesome. I would love to have that. But settle for my less than $300 cottage greenhouse out of old windows. Temps have dropped here with the cold front moving from the Pacific so we had to insulate the roof and put bubble wrap up over the weekend to avoid a heater. I have geraniums, palms and succulents in there. Lost a couple Coleus, but one survived and I brought it in the house. If it doesn't work out as a greenhoue it makes a great playhouse or tea house for a warm day in the winter! All my friend kid me that it is just my playhouse. I can decorate any way I want out there. I have all my pics on the old window greenhouse thread which is getting quite long, but you can skip to new posts and back up to see them.
Curvesarein: Love your "playhouse." You are very creative with the way you have it decorated. I bought some coleus a couple of years ago and start cuttings every winter so they are ready to go outside when it gets warm. We have already had very low temps here in AR (one morning it was 19) so anything that was left outside in pots is toast now. I am anxious to see next spring if I have any hostas that survived the deer this past year -- they ate everything in sight.
Well it will be in the low 20's tonight. So you are not alone. But surprisingly I have marigolds coming up in the greenhouse. I thought they wouldn't come up until near Spring. Do you know at what temp it is too low for Coleus?
Curves: I don't know about Coleus, but anything that is tender like them usually doesn't survive if the temps get down to freezing. I don't know if they can survive if the temps dip down to freezing and then back up quickly. I know they won't survive what is called a "hard freeze" but I don't know the definition of hard freeze. I suspect it is temps below freezing for a certain amout of time.
We will get our first freeze to 32 this weekend. Almost everything is safely tucked away, just a few more to go. Hard to believe it will freeze when it was 81F yesterday and sauna-humid. Oh well, had to happen sometime this season LOL
This is a home made green house made out of opaque fiberglass. The mid section has windows installed 360 degrees. Windows have screens and can open and close. Located in the back right of the garden, with the fence running on the right and aft of the structure. There are two green house doors that are glass screen doors, one in the front of the green house and one in the back. An old style free standing 1950's gas heater keeps it warm in the winter. To humidify the green house I put a large cattle drinking trough in the back of the green house which has a pond pump for circulation and minnows called mosquito fish (for that reason).
The green house is anchored with cement, rocks on the floor inside with adjustable wood shelving. The green house is very sturdy and weathers the Hurricanes better than other structures.
Since the green house is opaque fiber glass, I use it as a lighting feature, and have colored florescent light bulbs that illuminates it at night with a pleasant glow. The colors are changed through out the year.
From time to time, I put decorations on the front.
More photos here. http://davesgarden.com/community/blogs/t/rjuddharrison/1826/
No, the fern is in the ground. I bought a few years ago at home depot...it was a Charlie Brown tree fern- scragly and small.
These are pictures of it. If you scroll to the bottom, and then go up...I was looking through them today and can't believe how small it was when I planted it. http://davesgarden.com/community/blogs/t/rjuddharrison/6461/
These are the times I am glad I have a GH. It got to about 26F last night. When I looked out the back sliding door at the thermometer at 7am that's what it said. It was 10am before it even reached 32F! And tonight is supposed to get even colder...probably around 22F! It went all the way til January for the first cold weather, and then it really let us have it. But its okay, I know my GH is saving the best of my collection. The yard is sustainable die-back perennial type tropical...that stuff comes back year after year. The GH is really tropical. But the drawback is the GH is always packed to the gills with large overwintering container plants in all the aisles in winter. Makes it hard to work out there
I hear ya!
We have an arctic blast headed this way, and my green house is becoming crammed- not to mention some of the potted stuff has made it's way into the house.
My only concern is the tree fern - I'll wrap it up like a mummy, and have a propane deck heater if it gets too bad. I've not had 3 nights in a row of freezing temps here since I've been gardening..so we'll see what happens.
good luck to ya!
This is definitely record breaking weather for us. According to the local weather dudes, there have not ever been 2 nights of consecutive temps in the 20's since 1999. This is definitely the coldest it has been in the 18 years I have lived here. And its cold in the daytime too, hasn't been much over 50. It was 22 this morning and supposed to be 22 again tonight, then a BIG drop to about 17/18 tomorrow.
The FL freeze warnings are extending way down the peninsula into South FL as well. They are worried about all sorts of crops in Central and Southern FL...ferns, citrus, and the zoos are taking measures to protect the tropical animals as well.
This is really serious!
We are heading to Houston on the 15th to run the Houston Marathon on the 17th. I sure hope its a little warmer when we get there!!!
Well I got all kinds of running duds so I will prolly be okay. But with all the recent freeze activity I doubt I will see lots of good tropical plants on the route...just like here, all frozen and dormant.
I don't have a greenhouse...yet...so everything is either in the house, or in the barn ( barn has insulation on all the walls and ceiling so it stays above freezing in there, or wrapped up in every extra horse blanket, sleeping bag , rug, blanket we can find. Other things are just mulched well and hoping for the best come spring. Down to 25 here...and frozen water pipes!
Yes everything here is burnt, fried and defoliated. While things may have recovered from that snow followed by a freeze, this next freeze may finish a lot of tropical plants off.
I'm hoping my tree fern will survive. I've wrapped the trunk up with seat cushions. Haven't put anything on the fronds yet as wind will probably blow it off.
and unfortunately we are in for more...
one way to keep covers on plants is when you wrap them hold them together with clothespins. I have an enormous Staghorn fern that we cover with lots of blankets and use the clothespins to keep it all snugged together.
rj...I'm with ya...big huge pipevine is crispy now...mulched deeply tho so should come back.
They are saying we may get rain tomorrow. This was our one big warm day of this cold event...the high was 59 and the low tonight...a balmy 35 or so. Tomorrow its back to the low 20's possibly teens for 3-4 more nights. They said we may possibly get snow flurries...or sleet. I am not certain how much longer I can stand this. When you aren't used to 'real' winter, this is very hard to deal with. I know someone from, say, Minnesota would just laugh right ion my face, but I can;t help it, I have never lived anywhere really cold, and I hate this.
reminds me, I'm amazed at how well the Creeping Gloxinia is doing..still Green! So pretty hardy although I know your colder than I am. I've got one in the ground that's running up a tree and it's hanging in there! Another 2 in pots that are in the barn just in case but this seems to be a pretty tough vine.
NO we are not used to this, and I hate it too...
Goth, I feel your pain, had my tank filled the other day, $265., but not as bad as when gas was almost $5. a gallon. I am sure you probably have a larger tank than I do. I think mine is 100 gallons. It usually last me all winter, but I have a feeling that will not be the case this year. I probably need to check on it and see how much it has already used.
I am really tired of this cold weather also. I had a YTT (yest,today,tomor.) that was blooming and now it is toast. I hope it will make it, it did last year, but we have had colder for longer this year. I am trying to protect it. My next house I hope to have a larger GH and plant some permanently like you did and then I won't have to worry about the cold.
I spent 35 years in Northern Illinois, and believe me, when it gets cold in Florida, it's COLD!!!!! I never did get used to the winters up north and I am sure hating the winter in Florida so far. I have a lot of yard work to do before going back to AR but guess I can count myself lucky, they are having it worse there -- down to the single digits at night and only warming up to the 30s during the day. I had to leave all of my orchids back in the sunroom when we came down -- van was too full of other "stuff". My neighbor told me the other day that one of my favorites now has 10 blooms on it -- and I left several others in spike that should be blooming soon. Guess as soon as the weather warms up, I will have to take a trip to Lowe's and see what they have. LOL!!
getting below zero again tonight, we've wrapped the greenhouse in another layer of plastic, on the outside this time. If the wind would just stop it would help. It is going to be fun trying to get back in to water. My cucumbers were blooming, I hope they make it.
Hope those Plant City strawberries are saved. Saw on the news the other day they were in danger of getting frozen. Even some of our WEEDS have been hurt by the cold! Just hope we don't have a power failure back in AR. Had to leave all of my orchids as well as other plants there. The worst is freezing rain that damages the power lines.
I waited to go running this morning until it was 31F. That was at 10am. It's 2:35PM now, and its only 34F.
This is just ***almost*** the nastiest weather I can ever recall in my adult life. There have only ever been 2 other times like this that I can remember.
I heard its supposed to get to 34 tonight in Miami. They are running the Disney Marathon in Orlando tomorrow morning and it will be below freezing at the start. Bet there are a lot of disappointed out of area runners at that race!
The worse thing is I heard on the news last night that there may be a statewide Propane shortage unless Gov. Crist signs some special thing to allow the people who actually truck propane in to the places like FerrelGas and Heritage Propane, to allow those truckers to drive longer shifts. The demand statewide is so high that they can;t keep up with deliveries with their present daily driving hour cap.
Well, we decided to just "do it" ! We were looking on line at different greenhouse kits. A neighbor stopped by to see if we were crying over the plants and I told her we were looking at greenhouses and she mentioned a place right here in town that had some ( I didn't know that !!???) Anyway we went and looked and it's coming Thursday !!! Better yet, It's assembled, prep-wired, floored, 10x12 x 7'2, Polycarbonate panels and roof that have the UV protection. So I've got to hustle the next few days to prep the site ! D's SO . Course, It probably won't get cold for the rest of winter here in Central Florida now...
It's still a smart move to have a place you can stash stuff long term and know its safe. We didn't have a single place here in town that offered greenhouses or kits for many years. I ordered my first one, a Juliana, off the net years ago and assembled it myself at my old house. (THat was a real experience, LOL)
Now we have a Harbor Freight store and a place called Gardener's Edge that is a hydroponic store that's been here a long time that recently started offering greenhouses.
Mine is so crammed full of stuff right now right around the door, I have only been in there twice since the real cold started. I am going in today to check on everything and see if everything is okay
I remember a couple of years ago when Calif. had that terrible freeze. Many beautiful gardens were lost. We have some losses here and there from snow or ice damage. A friend just lost the top out of a Magnolia Tree that she has babied along for 5 years from the weight of the snow. But not anything like loosing your whole garden. I wonder what next spring will bring back to life and what won't.
mjs, I think you might have bought the same GH as a friend. It's nice they brought it in on a rollback all pre assembled and just dropped it in the yard. All she needed was a level site.
Jean you have D-mail
That's right. Light sockets ( 150 watt) , light switch, outlet, ( with those waterproof covers) A row of shelves across the back and down both sides ( were going to add to these) Plenty of room to make a row of benches down the center, we will add our own exhaust fan, but the spot for it is there. They bring it in, roll it off, put it on the footers, level it, and anchor it. Boom done. We just felt that by the time we ordered one, put it together, bought the stuff that this came with, and this was much bigger we were getting a pretty decent deal. Oh, and 150 mph wind rating, something to think about here in Fla w/ hurricanes.
Nothing has brought DH and me closer to the brink of divorce than that "putting it together" stuff!!!!! How well I remember the two of us working on an addition to our house and the "words" we had each day. I'm sure the neighbors probably heard a few of them. It was probably good entertainment.
Jean, you're so right! My husband and I decided if we didn't divorce over the GH, we'd be together forever! Actually the big fight was over the cost, we didn't fight much when we put it up, that I remember... although building a greenhouse is like childbirth, you're so happy at the end of the process you forget what you went through!
LOL Jean and Henry it wouldn;t have been so bad but the Juliana's are made in Sweden. They did have directions included in a variety of languages for the assembly, but, the English directions were very short on words and mostly pictorial for some reason. And they would give the steps in such a fashion that if you didn't read the entire section, you were in for heartache, like "assemble piece X and piece Z by doing so and so, AFTER you have done THIS step..."
There were a whole lot of pieces so it was a comedy of errors of sorts
I've had more than a few directions are like that.
We bought some really nice furniture w/ REALLY bad directions at IKEA ...
I found directions on line for them at a Forum.
Since then I get my Manuals online ... then if we have problems Search for other people who have been in the same boat.
We totally redid the backyard this Summer.
Boardwalks, Decks, 2 Ponds and a GH ... ALL DIY ALL pretty much on the fly w/ no master plan.
Trust me we know (as do the neighbors...) about 'Discussions'... LOL!
My DH loves the cereal commercial that goes somewhat like this: He: picking up the cereal box. "I see this is low calorie. Are you trying to lose weight?" She: "Do you think I'm fat?" And so on until finally she asks "What else does the box say?" He: "Shut up, Steve." My DH always looks at me and says, "See?????" Guys and gals do seem to have different "think" patterns. They eventually get to the same place, but by different routes.
Henryr10, I'd love to see what all you did to your yard, could you post me a few links to look at? Ric and I did a lot of work 2 summers ago serious rock work. I was expecting to start in the back last summer but he had a serious hand injury that put him out of action for most of the summer. So I contented myself with a new flower bed. Something I could handle on my own. Hopefully we will get back on track and get the GH in this summer. Poor dear that first summer he no sooner finished one project than I had another waiting to start. LOL Holly
In keeping w/ this Thread here's our rooftop GH we built this Fall.
It's 10' x 10' and currently double wall plastic covered.
We'll glaze it this coming Summer.
It replaces a Hoop House we had up there for years.
I can really get an interior shot as it's absolutely crammed w/ plants...lol!
The room below it we started rebuilding 2 years ago (had to beef it up to take the GH weight) and are just finishing up.
Just finished dry walling last week.
Winter got us before we could finish the siding on the street side.
Our house is actually quite dark also... not a Cave but not nearly enough windows.
So when we rebuilt the room under the Roof GH we added plenty of light.
The North wall is solid for insulation but the East and South will let in plenty of daylight in the Winter.
Here's a year ago as we're laying out the east facing bay window tile design.
My greenhouse comes today I'm SO excited ! Planning on reviewing this thread lots for idea's ( assuming I have room in there to do anything once I put all the plants that are stashed in the barn and under benches covered with blankets in there !
whoooo hooooo !
You have a good day to work in your greenhouse -- we are finally getting a warm day! I know you are excited. When we got our sunroom in Hot Springs it seemed that they would never finish. Now all of my plants are back there and I would love to see what is going on. Left some orchids that were spiking, along with two tubs full of epis that were rooting. Our neigihbor takes care of them when we are away. Most of the time we take some of the orchids with us when we come down for the winter but this time the car was full of electronic stuff for a new computer DH was building down here. I wish we had a camera back home so I could peek at them periodically.
Well, I spent the afternoon moving plants either back out side or into the greenhouse...
Took some pics, I still have a ton of plants to move back outside or to the greenhouse, this is just a drop in the bucket !
I was going to take a pic before putting in plants but the battery in the camera was dead. Do I went ahead and got started...sorting plants by what could go back out side and what I wanted in the greenhouse.
First pic is the front. We put it near this maple, and there are oaks nearby, to help provide shade during the summer.
There's windows on each long side with screen that I can put up/down, plus with door on the front, and we'll put an exhaust fan in the top center gable. Light switch is just inside the door to the left, and outlets are in the center wall left. Light fixture center top. All waterproofed.
this is the right back corner, I'm using one of those wire racks you clip together for a temporary bench till I can get in to town. I'm going to get a few of the heavy duty plastic shelving units that have the holes in them, and instead of assembling them full height, make them half height, then they should fit right down the middle to make a long row of benches. We're also going to add some extra shelves at some point and some low benches underneath the shelves.
This is the left back corner, it's more under the maple tree, so gets more shade, later in the day the whole greenhouse is in more sun, but in the summer, it will get more shade. I'm may train a vine up the inside on the southwest side to help shade it and get I think some of that white shadecloth that reflects the heat away. Between the windows, screendoor, and exhaust and trees, I think it will stay good in there for propagating, and keeping the butterflies off my baby passionflowers.
Later on when we can move more plants back outside I will "play" more.
Congrats!!!! That is an excellent GH!!! They delivered it yesterday complete with waterproof fixtures? You did well on that one. It looks like it will last a long time!!!! I wish you many happy hours of gardening!!!!
Yup, pre- wired, and all with the conduit, light switch, outlet cover, are all the water/weather proof covers, they set it, leveled it, anchored it ( wind rating 150mph) .all we have to do is run the electric from the barn to the greenhouse and we have a friend who works for a power company that is going to come up and help us do that. Water is already only 10 feet away as we have a couple of run in sheds for the horses to the right of the greenhouse. I'll be headed out there in a bit to work on finishing up moving plants in.
mj...doin the happy dance.../\./\./\./\...
haha, that's what D's SO says. A "big girls" play house...actually, I do sell a few plants and seeds as a little side business to my horse boarding and riding lessons, two passions I have...so it will be a big help, and we won't have to go thru so much of the grief in the winter and he can put his car back in the big barn. ( he's happy about that)...
gotta ask. . . where did you order such a neat GH?? I don't need one that big... more of a lean-to out back, maybe leaning against the back of the house or something. What is the material the walls are made of.
Mjs, Looks great how very nice to have a GH and without a lot of fuss just roll in and there she is. Mine will be much more labor intensive. LOL Plants look pretty happy already.
Henryr10, Nice looking sun room. I will be interested in seeing your GH when it is finished.
.there's a spot to look for a dealer.
It really did take a lot of the "headache" out of it. They use "Suntuf" Polycarbonate panels by Palram which comes with a pretty good warranty.
I'll try to take more pictures soon, but it's filling up fast ! We still have to "customize" shelves, adding to what's there, but it beats the heck out of trying to put one together and then still having to do all that. All in all we by the time you do all that yourself and have to purchase the add-on's we didn't end up spending that much more.
I have to say as far as pre-fab green houses go, that is very nifty. Love that it has shades..seems well thought out, and seems like you could put some light extra shelving, on the shelfs if needed for seed trays. I like!
That was my first thought on the shelving also when we were looking at it. I had the guy at the dealership get a bucket of water and we dumped water on the shelves and floor, there's enough gaps that it runs thru. The "wood" is that artifical lumber that will never rot. I was familar with it cause they started using it in horse trailer floors some years ago. Any new benches or shelves we put in will be slotted tho. We're putting a screen door on also. That way I can keep the solid door open in summer but keep other things out ! Friday morning it was about 45º outside and was 55 in the greenhouse, without any additional heating.(don't have the electric hooked up yet) During the day I've been opening the windows and doors and be just a little warmer than outside temp. Know I'll need the exhaust fan for summer but that's also one reason we put it where it will get shade during the hottest part of the day.
I wonder about all that galvanized steel rusting after a while. I mean a greenhouse is full of moisture. In their ad they say everything is warranted by the manufacturer of the raw materials. Who made the steel? What happens if it rusts?
We used galvanized steel brackets for mounting mirrors on pressure treated lumber in our riding arena over 15 years ago...
The brackets and posts are in better shape the the mirrors and frames now. No rust on the mirrors and they most definitely are exposed to the weather. I guess sometime down the road it may be an issue, but I weighed that again aluminum ( which I've had lots of issues with around the farm) and I was more worried about the wind rating.
18 gauge G-90 galvanized steel is the same steel used in hurricane strapping.
It's also what we have in the brackets holding our deck together.
I don't see rust being a big issue there.
Plus the company who manufactured it has been in business for almost 50 years...
sounds like they know what they are doing.
Boy I just escaped by the grace of God the other night when our temperature was 25 degrees F. and the electricity went out at 1:00 AM. Luckily it only stayed out for little over a hour. I've said I was gonna have an alternative source of heat but have no idea what is the most economical and emits the less odors to harm the plants. Any recommendations?
I have solar heating for my pool, but they are solid black. The company is Heliocol . Perhaps they would have something you could use. I am very happy with our system which is new since Hurricane Wilma. (The other one landed somewhere in the Bahamas. LOL)
Here is my modified Harbor Freight 10x12 greenhouse, that is now 12x18. Note the metal on part of the roof. 40mph + winds just love Harbor Freight greenhouses and their little wire clips to hold the (fast browning) plastic panels in. And this was after using over 30 tubes of clear silicone from “Wally World” in an effort to keep the panels from flying out. Also note the 2x6 angled brace stuck in the ground. This has saved the greenhouse several times from strong northwesterly winds.
I am attempting to heat and cool the greenhouse using wind and solar. I built the white colored solar electric panels from 3x6 inch cells (plan on building three more soon) I purchased on Ebay. I am on the ladder installing a 3 phase wind turbine. I purchased the motor and blades then built the rest. I have eight deep cycle batteries in an array to supply power when the wind isn’t blowing or it is dark.
I want to know, too. I tried a solar water heating set-up to get hotter water in my barrels, but we've had almost no sun this entire winter. Hmmm, doesn't work very good that way. We have had lots of wind.
Very nice set up. We have a passive solar home with an active solar hot water system. The hot water system has been down for repairs for a while now but we would like to get it back up again and also look into a photovoltaic system for the electric. I too would love to hear more about your system and how it is working.
My new greenhouse arrived today. I went the same route as mjsponies opting for the pre-manufactured Lark model since I already own a 12x36 storage building manufactured by Lark and have been very pleased with the construction. My greenhouse 12X8 and I opted to skip the flooring option since I'm not sure if I want a floor or not yet. The best part with the Lark is the same as cash/interest free financing for one year. I love using other people's money instead of mine!
As the temps drop into the low 30's tonight here in N. Florida my living room "finally" doesn't look like a nursery for once, not that I think there is anything wrong with that ;). Most everything is snug in the greenhouse tonight.
I think you'll be very happy with the Lark. Great construction, with all the basic,( and in my opinion PIA things done for you, electric etc). And you can customize, add shelves etc. We're putting a planter by the doors, and I'm going to build a little "patio" by the front, plantings all around the outside. I love it !
I like the ideas you plan for your greenhouse. My is facing my butterfly garden, 14 bird feeders/feeding platforms and three birdbaths I maintain in that corner of my yard. It's my little Utopia! Here is a pic of a visitor that stopped by to check-out my new GH. First time I have ever seen an Oriole in my yard or in "person" for that matter. Took a quick bath and hung around for 10 minutes and was gone.
The price is dependent on the size and options one selects. As an example mine came standard pre-wired with one center light fixture, one double outlet and switch (waterproof) and metal frames shelf around 3 walls with plywood tops. For my 8 x 12 delivered and set-up I paid $1800 + tax. A 8 X10 is $1600 and a 12 X 16 was $2400 at the dealer I traded with. With the no down payment, 0 interest option for 1 year, I couldn't build one as cheap using the metal gauge framing. Also, these are legally portable building (+ no permits needed in my area) so I can move it anywhere I need it in the future. It is built on 2 large runners so it can be rolled or loaded on a trailer and moved. It actually can be repositioned summer/winter if you really wanted to maximize/reduce your sun exposure. Other than making accommodations for any permanent water and electrical connections there is not much to moving it.
I think Lark builders had a great idea. They build sheds. They took their shed frame, and built a greenhouse on it. That's why they have such great wind resistance. There's lots of options,
here's their website...
I was just sitting here thinking if I had my Greenhouse up I would have a good 3ft or more of snow piled up around the sides with snow comming off the roof and drifts I could see it being a lot higher than 3ft. Wouldn't my "Dream" Tropical Garden look great with a wall of snow behind it? Holly
jhowdy, yup, I'm over it with the cold. I want Florida back ! Hard frosts light freeze last couple of mornings again. Finally this weekend we're supposed to have overnight temps above the 30's. I've got new growth peeking out of a lot of stuff, so went around with a bunch of mulch an made little mounds that I can pull back or push up around the base of plants depending on the temps.
Everything in the greenhouse seems really happy tho, and Datura's Salvia's , Purple Firespike are starting to bloom.( I think the firespike is confused not supposed to bloom yet) We can keep it at around 50 at night with the heater and a clip on circulating fan moves the warm air around.
That's it...never thought of it before, (or had to). I'll put a greenhouse over my whole yard. That'll do it. Thanks for this thread. Now, any suggestions where I can get a million dollars for the GH and upkeep?
LOL, That is good.
Happy, My daughter just got back from Ft. Lauderdale. She had the nicest getaway. Don't think it was quite the tropical getaway what they were expecting when they made arrangements months ago but they really had a good time. I was to pick her up at the airport and she called and said don't bother coming to get us we are staying. LOL
Yes, We too do the occasional ticket buy it does reduce your chances but it only takes one ticket to win. Holly
Went out to my GH this AM to start more seeds, peppers.
Now and hen I hear the sound of snow sliding off the roof, but out of the corner of my eye I caught a movement.
WOOO do I have a varment in here ? Well I sat still for a minute and then saw this...
Well I have no idea how he got in, I guess he drinks water from the trays I have the plants sitting in.
I ground up some rabbit pellets for him, don't know what he eats.
Can any one ID this bird ? Sparrow, Chickadee ?
I let her out yesterday, she was flying around the top of the GH so I opened 2 of the vent windows and she was out.
Still don't know how it got in but she was not real frighten of me. She was very inquisitive, checking out every little place. Wrins are mainly insects eaters so maybe she was after the few ants and nats.
I must clean the Pooo she put on my chair and a few other places, not a big price to pay for the experience.
I think I know how he got in. I cut a hole through a concrete brick wall to run the drain from the sink, well the hole, at the bottom is much larger than it need to be, I plugged it with a plastic bag but I think I will remove the bag and see if he comes back. Hope he does not bring a lot of friends with him. ^^_^^
OK , Happy, I have a townhouse in West Palm and will be coming down in March and if I find any Florida Birds up here, I will drive down and have a talk with you...^^_^^
Have you guys warmed up down there yet ?
Here is a tree full of white blooms , well I like to think of them as flowers.
As the snow slowly melts here I tell my wife, 'Look the grass is growing' as the grass slowly shows about the snow.
Wrens, like structures and are generally friendly and do well in close proximity to people. I have one that builds it's nest in my potting shed every year She flies in and out right over my head while she is building the nest and scolds me if she wants me to move. LOL
I've had wrens nest in my garage in the same nest for several years in a row, then when I built my greenhouse, I stuck a nest box (on sale in the fall) on a high shelf for the winter meaning to put it up outside the next summer. Of course, I never got around to moving it and lucky thing -- I found 5 babies fledging in the greenhouse and 1still in the nest box which was right beside the greenhouse fan!~ Mom and dad loudly scolded me each time I entered the greenhouse while the babies were fledging but never made a fuss before the babies were out of the nest box.
I've watched a male busily taking twigs, etc. to 2 or 3 nests and wondered what he was doing, so I looked it up and found out that wren males make several nests and the female chooses which one she wants. Then she proceeds to re-construct it to her satisfaction.
Here's a photo of one of the babies who got between some loose winter plastic insulation and a greenhouse window. I lifted the plastic and let him out after taking his picture.
Oh yea, my aunt has a BBQ grill on her patio and found wrens nesting in the little tin can that you hook onto the bottom of the grill to catch dripping grease ! She had to wait until the babies were all fledged before she could cook out that summer! Wrens are fun to watch!
Ha! Sounds like wrens have human habits. Can just imagine the male asking the female, "Which house do you wish, my dear?" And after she chooses, she does some rearranging! And he goes away grumbling, "Whatever I do, it never suits her." We had the same predicament in our grill several years ago. Wrens made nest in the same place, so it was wait until they fledged to BBQ! Nobody wants roasted wren.
Ok, I followed MJSPONIES path by ordering a 12w x 24l x 8h (walls) greenhouse from Lark shed builders. This is a steel building stronger then a typical shed and meets hurricane guidelines with the heavy polycarbonate panels screwed into the metal. My hassle was to avoid the extreme heat and light coming through a clear roof. The company will special order a batch of translucent Opal (white) Poly panels for the roof which will have four clear sections interspersed. The opal will only transmit only 40-45% light but the clear walls it should give me plenty of light. The clear panels are rathed at 90% and I wish there was something in the middle around 60-70% but maybe my mix of clear and Opal will give me the correct light mix.
Now, for any of greenhouse owners, I'd like some advice or improvements to my choices if you have any. The unit is not yet built and I can still make changes. I have a temperture controlled 24" louvered fan in one of the eaves and an electrically operated louver on the other side. These things are supposed to operate in conjunction with one another. I also have 5 screened windows which open half way for additional airflow. One regular 80" door with windows and one solid roll up door (7x8). In the ceiling I have places for two circular fans and three lights. There are also 5 electrical outlets in the walls. There are no shelves as I will buy these locally to suit. The floor is made from recycled plastic and will have 1/4 in spacing between the boards for water drainage. And that's about it.
My use for this greenhouse will be for the winter months as I don't want to have to go through a similar one as we had last year with the house full of plants. I have exotic rainforest type palms wich are just now recovering from even a hint of cold weather. They are in pots behind my pool and need a place during the 3 cold months of the year. Then there are my orchids. I want to move them just once this time around.
Hey Fred !
I was just thinking of you the other day ! We're planning on adding adjustable wire shelving, and we were Lowe's looking for "something". I'm actually thinking of driving over to Apopka and seeing what I can find over there since there are so many suppliers over there.
Keep us posted !
Sounds like a good plan, Fred. My only addition would be more windows.
My SIL and I built my GH using recycled wooden windows on the sides and did not think to install them so I could opes some of them.
See pic above Post #7179310
I have 2 paddle fans 52" and a 20" fan in the gable and 5 vents, 6"x12" each side 12" off the floor. An it still gets over 100 some summer days. I know you said the main use would be winter but think about summer time also.
I now have installed tarps that cover most of the roof that can be rolled up out of the way for winter time.
They cut down on light but it's all a trade off.
Also you might think of an entrance door wide enough to roll a garden cart through, that is my next project.
Here is a pic of my corn, taken last week.
Hope this helps Dwight
P.S. I moved to KY 4 years ago from W. Palm Beach where I lived most of my life.
Hi Fred. Sounds like you are going to be in good shape for winter. If I did that, it would never go under 90 all winter! LOL
Anyway. I have seen a number of people use restaurant shelving that is used in the storerooms and walk-ins. The shelves are adjustable and the come in 12-18-24' widths. They are not cheap, but last. If you have a Restaurant Depot near you that would be the way to go.
Keep us posted on your progress. Where are you going to put it? Back by the 'garage/barn/out-building?
I'm off to see what one of these glass sheds actually looks like. The shed dealer was so enamored by my order that he wants to sell them to others and just got himself a display sample. I'll take pictures. The shed dealers don't really know a thing about plants and greenhouses. They have no idea that they are letting a lot of business go by the side by not learning more about our hobby. My guy in Punta Gorda seems to have learned the lesson rather quickly. It's a 55 mile drive to the closest Lark dealer.
rentman, my intent is not to grow things in the greenhouse during the summer months. I'll test the situtation of course but as I said this is more for cold protection while providing light. I take my phals into our sunroom but the hassle of watering inside is just too much as is carrying them in and out. The other orchids I only take inside when it's really cold but I know they are not happy in the 40s either.
You mentioned more windows. I have five regular sized windows plus two doors and the vents. I think that'll do for the winter.
The door is a 7' x 8' rollup door and should also be big enough to carry my palms inside. Here's a picture of the door in a regular shed made out of steel studs just like the greenhouse and with 8' sidewalls.
my unit will have a different shade roof and we ordered green trim as seen in the picture.
And Hap, the greenhouse will go in the rear right of our property where the nice lawn is. I was at the county offices the other day attempting to get a permit. They have no staff left and after three hours I was finally getting ready for the actual permit when they told me I'd have to place the shed starting at 30 feet from the fence line. New rules. I remembered that it was 10' and had designed it to be installed there. The way they want it place in the middle of the long part of 2.5 acres would have in smack in the middle of my driveway. I basically walked out of the place and they are less my permit fees and can lay off some more people. Stupid rules need to be ignored.
fred, is it your just your local ordinances? Since it's not a "permanent"structure I'd think it wouldn't be a problem. Another reason tho, I live on 11 acre's, can barely see the next door neighbor's thru the woods, not that they would be a problem as everyone out here is rather "user friendly'. Anyhow, it's pretty hard to get something too close to someone else's house.
OK, the new greenhouse has been delivered to the dealer and tonight I couldn't wait anymore and drove the 50 miles to see it. Actually I was wondering if they got it straight and built what I wanted. Here's a shot of my baby siiting lonely in the lot
right inside. The roof is only clear for two strips and I probably shouldn't have done that. The white poly gives plenty of light but I didn't know and the manufacturer had never built anything but clear. I will probably cover the clear strips with poly from HD.
Jeri, you mean county code thing? Ignored it. Laws that are stupid beg to be ignored. The county planners simply assume that anybody with a large lot must have plenty of space to put anything at least 30 feet from the fence line. That one may have driveways, structures and landscaping in the middle of one's property has not sunk in yet. The rules used to be 10' then somebody came up with the bright idea to set 30' on the side and 75' from the rear even though my shed/greenhouse is mobile and not built on a concrete foundation.
it's too hot here (the sun is overhead) to use as a normal greenhouse. So filling up is not in the picture. I will move my orchids (after I transplant them sometime soon) in there when it gets cold outside at night. I have a floor made out of plastic wood or whatever that recycled stuff really is which has space between each board so that I can mist and water as needed without moving the plants in and out of our sunroom every few days. That got to a chore last year.
Mostly I needed something to store my palms during a cold spell as they have big pots and large leaves and don't even want to think about cold weather. One of my licuala grandis palms is just now coming back with new growth but the older leaves which didn't die off completely still look like hell at the edges. These palms are very expensive and I really don't wish to lose them but storing them in the bedroom or sunroom is not in the picture. :-)
Fred, That looks great. I thought it was funny when I first saw people from Fl. posting pics of their GH up North we don't generally think of you needing them. But then I realized that you really can and have gotten some nasty cold weather from time to time. I like the big door that will make it easy to move in some good sized plants. LOL on the inspectors we were down to the NewPortRichey area earlier this summer. My FIL had surgery and while we were taking care of hime we also tried to clear up some issues for my FIL who had a fire last year they have some really stupid regulations.
Holly, we live in a sub-tropical climate but try to make it pure tropical with our fancy and fussy plants from regions of Central America and elsewhere where no freeze has ever been seen. The plants react with horror at any length of such torture. I lost half of my croton collection last winter and I loved the various colors so much. Turns out that certain varieties are much fussier then others but how is one to know.
On our recent trip to Costa Rica, a native habitat of so much tropical flora, we saw fields of crotons just growing in the wild.
Oh yeah we can get freezes...I'm farther north than fred, and if I'm going to plan on leaving it in the ground, I look for zone 8b-9a plants and still sometimes hope for the best ! Otherwise, back up cuttings, or it lives in a pot. Many things didn't come back till June ! this year, and are way behind where they should be by now.
I have a smaller version of fred's greenhouse, and it's not big enough, so still will be lugging some things inside the barn or house, or praying for a "normal" 9b winter. I even use mine in summer for starting cuttings, and other's that don't like the variable weather we can get here in summer, hot dry windy, hot humind rainy, hot dry still, just plain hot and NO rain...you get the picture. There's a saying here...just give it 5 minutes, the weather will change.
WOW Fred, What a shot, love the crotons I only have one but hope to pick up another later on. I remember reading a book based in the tropics and it described a house with a croton hedge. I think that would be just beautiful.
I have long wanted to go to CR. I was going to join a group of divers for a Dive Trip there several years ago but decided I couldn't make it. Lucky I did as the trip turned into a mess with some really bad weather and the diving was either canceled or bad. Still I would love to try a trip again.
I love when I come down to Fl. and see plants that I only grow in pots growing in their full glory.
So now that I've moved to Bradenton, I really wondering why it is that yall need greenhouses???? but then it has been 30+ years since living in FL in the winter so maybe it does get cold enough to need one.
Any updated pics of your greenhouse and how it is doing today, that you care to share???
I know from talking with dad that this year 2010 there were some frosted nights here. I'm just so happy to be away from up north and enjoying the heat, although since we arrived it really hasn't been too bad, well not what I was thinking I would have to get use to, folks keep saying oh just wait it will be very hot and I'll be crying for the north, but this is one Floridian who is happy to be back in the heat. LOL
I had a 15 foot hoop house up north now you are making me regret leaving it behind...
These last two winters are two of the coldest I can remember since moving here in 1978. We had multiple nights in the lower 20's and 2009/2010 winter upper teens ! Yup, that hoop house might have come in handy.
oh no... but I now know how to make a really cheap one using pvc so should it get that cold again I can run out and pick some up. I hope for all our sakes we have warmer than those temp winters from now on...LOL
Just this morning I was thinking I need to clean the GH to get ready for fall, but it was in the high 90s in the shade today, so it will have to wait. Outlaw, your gh is about the size of mine, good just for me. Isn't it amazing what that sunny space can do for your mood?
It only stays clean for a week, or till i get all caught up with all the other projects! Lol. Some day it would be great to have a large heated, planted greenhouse, but for now this is all i need.
Sorry, wrong pic of the clean potting bench. Here it is. A sight not often seen. Seems like it's always in use!
Looks like a real nice spot. Bet you will have hours of fun out there playing with your plants. LOL on the cardboard floor, I just layered part of my yard with cardboard and threw mulch over it. I use it instead of landscaping fabric around some of my plants.
Ric and I have been working on our GH. He has it almost up. Just the structure for this winter. Things like heat, lights, fans and benches will come later.
I live in Portland in a crime riddled neighborhood. Before I moved in there were some squatters in the garage with a secret room in the back of the garage. I ended up getting frustrated with the look of the crack shack and decided to do something about it so I turned it into a small glass greenhouse. I will post progress pictures... about 1/2 way through the process I almost cried because I was overwhelmed with the amount of work that needed to be completed by first frost to save my tropical plants but I think it turned out okay. I recycled about 75% of the materials we took off the building and constructed about 90% of the new coverings from recycled glass from old sliding glass doors and french doors for the front.
Thank you everyone for sharing your photos and thank you GothQueen for thinking of this idea... I will share more photos soon.
Oh, eric I love the greenhouse and your yard is beautiful, looks so tropical, would love to have a greenhouse like that one. Wow you made a beautiful improvement to your yard and neighborhood, I am always so impressed with the visions people have and that they actually can get it accomplished.
I just realized that I never came back and posted GH pictures in this thread. You may have seen it in other threads. It was wonderful this spring. We put a couple of inexpensive heater fans in there this past spring and used it for our annual plant plugs and seeds. Worked just great. Ric decided to heat it for the winter and picked up a nice gas heater at a discount. They are coming in a few weeks to put in a gas bottle and many of the tropical plants in the gardens will be overwintering there this year.
What an amazing recovery of space, Eric, turning that building into greenhouse and making something positive out of something terrible.
Holly, beautiful yard and greenhouse! Thank you all for sharing your green dreams with everyone here, and for the thread.
My greenhouse is still under construction, but my avocados, tiny lemon trees I planted from seed (along with some avocados), a pineapple I planted from a store-bought pineapple, along with tomatoes, sweet potatoes, squash, beans, etc are all still in the little 4x8 hothouse, soon to be transferred. We have already had several days of frost so it will be a relief to get the GH finished.
1. the little hothouse that stays so warm without a heater (covered for a chilly night)
2. the green 14x16 dream in progress (barrels full of water are to help heat it)
3. Fertilizer manufacturers
Holly love the greenhouse, the walkway, and the way you have a fence to hold up the glads. Beautiful. Let me know how your heating goes I am in zone 5 and curious what heating a greenhouse would be like. I had a lean to greenhouse on my old house but it was smaller and leaned onto a brick fireplace which held heat and I loved it.
Solace please post pics of your building the greenhouse I would love to watch.
Just got home from a couple of weeks at the Beach. So I am playing catch up on the threads and in the gardens. Need to get the houseplants and tropicals inside very soon. They are coming next week to place the gas tank for the heater. Ric has to get it installed and plants moved inside. We have an insulated concrete slab floor that will give us some solar gain and black radiators that will be filled with antifreeze for more solar gain.
We have already had two frost, light ones but you know those tropicals aren't wild about them...rofl.
Found this greenhouse being made not far from where I live, just a couple of changes I would like which is a solid north wall since I live out where the winds blow like crazy and covered with the type of covering you have instead of single type. Since I am zone 5 and you are zone 6 we aren't too far apart so I was really interested in what it was like to heat it in the winter time?
This greenhouse is built to what ever size you can afford..rofl. I started to say whatever size you want, but my wants are always bigger than my affords...rofl
That is nice looking. Ours is a basic Harbor Freight GH with extra support that Ric added to help with the wind and snow load of our winters. It did very well last winter and he has been very pleased with the modifications. Last spring we used small electric heater fans for a couple of months while we used it for seed starting and annual plugs. This will be the second winter and the first winter heated so it will be a new experience for us. The new heater is a Heatstar unvented lp/gas heater. Ric is going to build a head house on the north west end of the GH that will protect that side and give extra storage space. Not sure he will get that done before winter so we may not have that protection in place for this winter but he is also looking at some type of poly film coating for extra winter protection.
Solace, I have a few of those Fertilizer manufacturers here. I find they are good at pest control, too. LOL
happgarden that is one pretty g/h. I know you will spend many enjoyable hours in there during the cold weather. I bought a harbor freight G/H kit and replaced the aluminum with wood and it looks a lot like yours and I completely packed it the 1st year and then had to add thick plastic butcher door type sides to the back awning at our guest house. That is now full and I'm still having to bring plants inside the house.
Never big enough...lol they told me the same thing about water garden they will never be big enough.
Haven't bought anything yet but I really like your harbor freight greenhouse. I read a lot of folks have bought h.f. and are really happy with them. I sure don't want to buy the wrong thing since this will be my only shot at this. I like what your walls are made of. I read a lot of folks use bubble wrap to add more insulation on the north. Kind of looks like normal bubble wrap but on steriods...rofl
I've heard of that. We don't really get that cold down here. If the weather drops below 40 I have a little electric heater for each of the G/Hs. As long as we don't loose electric, I'm OK. I need to find an alternate means to heat beside the electric in case we do loose it.
Happgarden, There were several blogs that Ric used that he found very helpful. They really had very good directions and helped make the GH much nicer and more stable and more efficient. This is the thread Ric started that showed some of the things he did to our GH and it also has a link to the Blog. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1243490/
As for weather not dropping below 40! I wish, we have already been in the 20's rofl... We can go below 0 and windy...heavens the winds can get horrible, but let the weather hit 100 and not a drop of air... funny how it works that way...
In my first greenhouse I used a small kerosine heater to heat with back then, but I think the cost of kerosine (unless only used on emergency basis) would eat you alive now a days. Wish I had that greenhouse back ;( DH built it and it had the honey comb panels on the top for insulation but the walls were all windows that I could slide open, it faced south and was a 'lean to' type against the south wall of the house that had a brick fireplace chimmeny that ran all the way up threw the greenhouse. Great solar gain, the floors were brick we got from an old hotel they were tearing down. Don't think I can con him into building another from scratch.
It is really nice to have someone to build things for you. I am very lucky that way also. With a DH and 2 sons that can build anything. It is really nice that Ric also has a great interest in gardening so I don't have to work too hard to talk him into a project.
Roxxanne you and I had like minds!!! That's what I did today also!!! Mine had been overtaken by root beer plants. They were as tall as the walls would allow. I filled up the wheel barrel with just root beer plants. I finally got the round-up out and after I cut the plants, I got a sponge paint brush and started to treat the roots. Then I started repotting plants and twirling the vines to my hoyas, where they weren't just everywhere. I was too tired to take pictures but I'll try tomorrow.
Finished putting the plastic on the hoop and sidewalls, but still have to anchor the plastic to the walls on the bottom and build an entry half wall and door on one end. The little hoop will then be moved in front of the door to act as an entryway/cold crop room (unheated).
I moved a bunch of stuff around today, transplanted another bed of squash, and made room for a table and a compost pile, but this is how it looked earlier today, before I got started.
1. Northwest corner with barrels on the right
2. Southwest corner with raised bed in foreground and transplanted the green beans that got hit with frost into the blocks on the far wall
3. Barrels temporarily hold some plants and sweet potatoes growing slips
4. Tomatoes that were hit by frost then trimmed and transplanted from outside
5. Squash is bouncing back nicely from frosted blackened leaves after transplant from outside.
I transplanted squash, some herbs, green beans, and sunflowers this afternoon, clearing the southwest corner for a table/bench and cleared the northwest corner in preparation for the compost pile. Growing in there now are Bantam corn, tomatoes of various kinds, okra, watermelon, avocado trees, some lemon trees from seed that are still tiny, squash, arugula, cilantro, basil, cosmos and zinnia transplants from outside, sweet potato slips, and Kentucky Wonder beans. I have a Moon & Stars watermelon in the house mini-greenhouse along with tomato vines and starter pots with brocolli, eggplant, and other stuff planted. So far so good. It's already gone through a storm with 50 mph gusts without the plastic being permanently anchored on the bottom. What a blessing to have a greenhouse!
Solace ~ are you pollinating your vegetable blooms? I know the tomatoes will be easy but the squash will need your encouragement but I'm sure you are up on that.
Jeri ~ I agree on the tangled web the Hoyas can weave... my first photo is Hoyas.
I have been making room and building shelving today ( I am a zip tie engineer ~ lol) Have been moving plants in over the past month so don't feel quite as pressured. It seems like I don't have lots of space but when I take photos, it looks like there is room to spare but more plants to move in too. Kristi
Yep, Kristi, something's pollinating them. Not me, but something. I had to run a couple of bees out of there yesterday evening, because they kept running into the plastic trying to go 'home'. I live close to a honey farm, so that might help. When it all gets good and closed up/sealed, then I think the flies will help, as there seem to be a few in there - not a lot, but a few walking on the plants. I hate flies, but if they help pollinate maybe it's a good thing they haven't died, yet. Otherwise I'll take a paintbrush or a Q-tip and pollinate them. You have lots of beautiful plants in your greenhouse. Happy plants :)
We will be interested in seeing how your edibles venture does for you this winter. Hoping you keep us posted.
Last winter I kept cucumbers and tomatoes growing in the GH through winter but fought whiteflies till I gave up on those plants indoors. I will keep them out this year and move them into a storage room for the freezing days.
We moved most of the Tropicals into the GH to overwinter them. We are using the electric heater fans for a few weeks until the propane gas tank is installed. This will be the first winter we heat the GH and I am looking forward to seeing how it goes.
We put a few herbs in there to have fresh herbs this winter, I think Ric is also going to try to grow a flat of mixed lettuce and maybe try to pot up one of the tomato pants and see if he can keep one going in the GH this winter. Not sure how well that will work.
Here are the pictures of what I accomplished Sun. What is missing is the wheelbarrow of root beer plants that I pulled and/or cut out of the GH. I rewound hoya vines and repotted until I ran out of soil.
Thanks, Podster. I have a friend that told me she puts a trash bag over her plant, treats it for white flies, and leaves the bag on long enough for them to die (the flies, that is, not the plant, lol). I've never tried it, and hope I don't have to. I had fly strips up in the little greenhouse hoop and it was loaded with them, but I never found white flies on the plants. They must have been attracted to the fly strips more. Went down to check on buying some more for winter, just in case, and there were several people around commenting about how bad flies are this year, especially this late in the year. Is that just here, or does anyone else see that happening? Anyway, the fly strips work well. When you can find them.
Hi everyone. I must have marked this thread a long time past. And recently just rediscovered it once again. It's the longest running thread, i've seen. ^^_^^ . Hi Sis, 5 miles from Maryland that's tad closer to some of my family there. It's amazing that we've bonded together over the years. I recognized many participate in this thread. So here is a big howdy to everyone. And sis, hope Jim is safe during his trip on this hazadous weather!
I don't really have a true greenhouse; just a makeshift GH in the basement. But tropical and subtropical gardening? I'm into it with both feet. lol Here is "Peanut" that's blooming for the first time. This was a single 4" cutting that someone has shared from Jeri's get-together--in yeas past. Sis, it was back in 2007 or 2008?
happgarden; I can't even phantom the messes that they've to clean up after the storm. And that fire in NYC! Possitive thought and prayers continue to go up for those that are affected.
happgarden wrote:Oh Lily that is too cool. I have never seen that before. I am curious does it grow up and down or up and fall down? Would love to have that in a head planter it would look like dreadlocks...rofl.
GMTA! LOL happ. I've been looking for that "head planter" but ones that I saw were too pricey I thought. But I'm still looking. LOL. The heurnia is an easy culture, though I thought I'd never bloom for me being indoor. This Fall it finally did. The pot is on a window sill facing North, bright but in direct light year round. As far as its growing habit? It's kinda free-spirited. Most of the long strands hanging down, but there is this horizontal one decided to spike two strands upward, and at that juncture, it created a cluster of flowers as seen here.
Oooops, because I quoted your message ... I can't post the pix, will brb with pix.
Not much damage in our area other than massive flooding. We toured around the area and didn't see much wind damage. Last year we had a very early heavy snowstorm. The leaves were still on the trees and a lot of dead/dying trees and branches came down. It was a huge mess but I think that is why we didn't have more of that type of damage with this storm. We lost our power for about 18 hours and it was just in our neighborhood. We think a neighbors evergreen was the issue. Some lines run thru the branches there.
We did have some serious wind last night and our GH did just fine. Those extras that Ric included to help with our winter weather really did pay off. The new gas heater kept the GH nice and toasty even though the circulating fan didn't run. I was down there earlier today cleaning the plants, removing dead leaves. It was nice and warm and pleasant in there.
Oh Jeri, Greencastle is about an hour and a half South/West from me. Not too far from where my DH grew up.
Hoping and praying that everyone is safe and sound. Jeri ~ that includes your husband.
Greenhouses can be rebuilt and plants can be replaced but lives are precious.
Kim ~ great going on the Huernia blooms! I got my start of that plant from Larkie here on DG and have since been able to share it a few times over. It is a generous bloomer and thankfully not fragrant. LOL
I am posting a photo to show you that like the Hoyas, these will bloom on the same bloom spurs so don't remove them when done blooming and you will be rewarded with more blooms.
Kim, Lin shared the peanut cactus with me and I shared it with you I think. You did way better than me. I lost mine I think that very winter when my G/H had a heater malfunction. I had no idea they flowered that pretty!! You geaux girl!!!
Waving at you Pod!!! How have you been? Thanks for that info on the spur, I didn't know that.
LOL!!! Could we wait until the spring then I won't have to put it in there until next winter. My DH is out of town so I was bad this year and not only filled up 2 g/hs. I have 2 kiddy pools full of plants in the sonroom and the 3 steps to the jacuzzi is now covered with a large black trash bag and hoyas on top so as not to stain the marble.
Jeri, Thanks for the link on Wayfair planters. Ones of these days I'd probably consider it. As for "Peanut"; now, I remember... Not sure if I remember Lin, but I remember, I was awestruck with the 'Peanut' but it was marked taken. You saw the expression on my face and didn't have the heart to see me going without. So you later gave me a start. That's truly the gift that keeps on giving! Like Christi, I'd be glad to send you some cuttings in the Spring with a promise from you that you would remind me.
Christi, sounds as if your DH has a real passion on old cars, as our passion on gardening. ^^_^^ Oh thank you on the tips regarding the flower spurs. The spurs on your photos are much bigger, a tell-tale they have bloomed a time or two before? Since mine just started, so it appears quite small. I also just now realized as I looked at the picture. I saw there is another spur on the upward pointing branch with a spent/dried up old remnant of wilted flower. I have 2 spurs!!! Hah, this has bloomed before and was going un-noticed. I will be sure I won't interfere with the spurs to ensure future flowering as Hoya's culture. FYI plumeras' inflorescents work the same way as these spurs on Huernias and Hoyas. Another thing I've observed, with Plumerias; they will selectively self-terminate spent inflos. So I just let's nature takes its course.
Jeri ~ no... we are self employed and the "boss" doesn't let us take time off for cruises. The most DH does is tinker with them (6 older rides) and enter them in the small local car shows. In fact with age, I find it preferable to ride in something new and comfy. lol We used to drive the older rides when we went to visit family each summer but now I just want to get there quickly.
Kim ~ the sweet thing about sharing a plant is that it reminds me of the sweetie that shared it. I called mine Larkie even after I got an ID for it. Yes, mine have bloomed many times but I only recently noticed the bloom spurs. You keep trying to tempt me with the Plumies but I made a mistake and got interested in Bromeliads instead. They are not fragrant but fascinating. I keep asking myself why I want a plant that dies after it blooms. lol
I actually have two of the Huernias... the blooms are similar but the plant is not. They are the same age but came from different places and I've never been able to ID the shorter, upright one on the left.