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Self-contained Box Gardens: Gymgirl's ebuckets...BocaBob's coir in Arizona

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rtl850nomore
Glendale/Parks, AZ

April 7, 2009
2:11 AM

Post #6375382

Thanks for the inspiration.

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BocaBob
Boca Raton, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 7, 2009
2:20 AM

Post #6375434

Grow, baby, grow !!! Did you know HD matched the price of Lowes 5 gallon buckets $2.79 I think. Both companies basically cut their prices in half. But only HD has HOMER !!!!
rtl850nomore
Glendale/Parks, AZ

April 7, 2009
2:42 AM

Post #6375586

Yeh, that is what I paid for my Homer's. What color are the Lowe's, I don't get there often. I would rather have white to reflect what will soon be very hot sun.
BocaBob
Boca Raton, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 7, 2009
7:28 AM

Post #6376299

White or gray

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 7, 2009
5:39 PM

Post #6378021

WOW! You mean I played a part in this? How? I don't remember!

LOVE the Anasazi Indian on the wall (we use their software products here)

Linda
rtl850nomore
Glendale/Parks, AZ

April 7, 2009
5:58 PM

Post #6378094

hmmmmm...let me count the posts you made Gymgirl regarding ebuckets that I read with ever growing enthusiasm. My southwest soil is not very tolerant and grow bags just don't seem like they would hold up in this dry dry heat. ebuckets seemed to be the perfect solution to extending my gardening space. When you asked about the need for crop rotation that did it for me. It was the solution I had been seeking. Crop rotation has always been a problem for me since I garden in a small city lot. Again, thanks for the inspiration

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 7, 2009
6:14 PM

Post #6378140

rtl850nomore,
you've got a dmail.
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX

April 7, 2009
7:18 PM

Post #6378371

Being a restauranteur - we toss the pickle buckets in the dumpster. No need to pay for 5-gal buckets - just make arrangements with your favorite dining spot -- BUT - You must be punctual on pickup - or out they go!

Also, count on cleaning them yourselves - most won't pay employees time to do that.

I have several at the house, but don't have room to store them at our establishment, so if one is emptied on my shift - it goes home with me.
kraehill
Muscoda, WI
(Zone 4b)

April 7, 2009
7:46 PM

Post #6378490

Okay, someone please point me to the instructions on how to make these (like the pretty red buckets in the top photo). I can get all kinds of these buckets (round and square) so I think I need to start experimenting!

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 7, 2009
7:46 PM

Post #6378493

um, how come I was NOT aware of this? I'll be seeing you, Bubba.

You know, that Swiss Chard just keeps on going. I'm thinking I'm just gonna bring you the whole container one 'a these days!
DesertJake
Mesa, AZ
(Zone 9a)

April 7, 2009
7:51 PM

Post #6378521

I think Bubba's pickle buckets should be used to grow cucumbers. It would be a nice circle of life thing. :-)

Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

April 7, 2009
7:56 PM

Post #6378542

Me too, Jake. I can hear the music now...
GG You didn't know you were responsible for this stuff? Well you are one of my garden mentors... tee hee.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 7, 2009
9:08 PM

Post #6378855

Now, ya'll KNOW I did not mean for my number to be included in that last post. So, don't go sending that all over the place. The DG techies are working on REMOVING that post so I can edit out my number...

I hope ya'll are listening...
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

April 7, 2009
10:23 PM

Post #6379240

G, why'd you include me? I just listen to what YOU say. [It's all her y'all, her and about 17 other people.]
christmascactus

April 8, 2009
8:12 PM

Post #6383115



This message was edited Apr 9, 2009 5:49 PM

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 8, 2009
8:27 PM

Post #6383164

Um, Kraehill, et al,
There's an error in the instructions above. I'm reposting the corrected version and the DG Admin will remove the incorrect document.

Thanks.

Correction should read (Cutting the eBucket center hole approx. ¼” to ½” diameter smaller than the eSleeve establishes a “ledge” for add’l support of the potting bucket.)

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Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX

April 8, 2009
9:43 PM

Post #6383529

I've read and reread every one of the instructions sheets, and I still don't understand. (And I build things all the time).

I think we need more pictures of the process.
We started with 2 buckets - 1 to hold water, 1 to pot our plants.
Then the watering fill tubes were discussed - no problem so far.

Then suddenly the directions talk about an eSleeve, and buying perforated PVC in addition to the piece of non-perforated we bought for the fill tubes, and no mention of what diameter to buy. So if i understand, this is like a solid soaker hose? and cut into 6" lengths? do they jjust lay in the botton of the water bucket? I'm lost.
tubbytee
Ames, NE
(Zone 5b)

April 8, 2009
11:30 PM

Post #6383947

Bubba take a look here

http://www.seattleoil.com/Flyers/Earthbox.pdf

Tubby
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 9, 2009
2:35 AM

Post #6384747

Thanks Tubby. That's excellent.
tubbytee
Ames, NE
(Zone 5b)

April 9, 2009
2:51 AM

Post #6384807

I figured you was 2busygardening...LOL

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 9, 2009
3:12 AM

Post #6384862

Bubba, I don't think I've ever seen you so exasperated! First thing in the morning I'll post a pic of the sleeve. Its just a different type of wick. The perforated tube is attached to the bottom of the potting bucket over the wick hole with the zip ties. Once it's attached slip a pantyhose over it to keep your potting mix from coming out of the holes. Now sit the buckets inside each other and pack the tube with your potting mix. It becomes a built on wick! Put the fill tube in place and finish filling your soul bucket. Hope this helps. Sorry for my confusion. Linda
rtl850nomore
Glendale/Parks, AZ

April 9, 2009
3:55 AM

Post #6385064

Can someone please tell me what the purpose is of all those little holes that are drilled in the bottom of the top bucket.
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

April 9, 2009
11:21 AM

Post #6385630

The better to breathe with, rtl. This keeps your mix fresh. That is why the empty space between the bottom of the planting bucket and the cater in the lower bucket is called aeration.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 9, 2009
12:36 PM

Post #6385809

Bubba you gettin this? Running late. No time 4 pic.
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX

April 9, 2009
1:32 PM

Post #6386016

Thanks, Tubbytee.

Since the buckets nest with a few inches below the inside one, I did not understand the need to build a platform for it to rest on.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 9, 2009
1:39 PM

Post #6386034

Bubba, there really is no need for a platform. Devota just designed hers to raise up a little bit with a 6" tall wick to create more reservoir space ( = more water = less fill ups). You could cut it back so the bucket doesn't raise up.

With a 6" wick, I drilled my drain hole approximately 5.75" high from the bottom of the eBucket, which was a significant difference from where I once drilled them. Oh, the ingenious, conservationist DH also helped me discover that RUBBER golf tees will seal up just about any miscreant bucket hole you have. Just shove it in and snip it off at the tip. Instant plug!

Now. Ya'll help me find some more RUBBER golf tees, cause these days, they are harder to come by than a Bernie Madoff investment return.
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX

April 9, 2009
1:52 PM

Post #6386070

Don't tell me you had money there! LOL
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX

April 9, 2009
1:53 PM

Post #6386075

I'll bet a hot glue gun would also seal those holes, gg.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 9, 2009
1:54 PM

Post #6386087

Bubba, NOT ON YOUR LIFE! My momma taught me to keep the money hidden in the mattress!

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 9, 2009
1:55 PM

Post #6386089

Hot glue? I can do!
rtl850nomore
Glendale/Parks, AZ

April 9, 2009
2:00 PM

Post #6386114

Breathe huh, ok I got it. I didn't drill any but I did put in two wicks. It is hot here, I mean HHHHHOOOOOTTTTTTTTT. I am hoping that two wicks will keep the coir damp when it heats up. I'll see how I do without the holes. Perhaps I will have to drill some for the fall planting season.
rtl850nomore
Glendale/Parks, AZ

April 9, 2009
3:29 PM

Post #6386469

Bag-o-wickin' socks

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Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 9, 2009
3:47 PM

Post #6386542

Rtl850nomore

That is TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO funny! Are you constructing the eSleeve Wick?
rtl850nomore
Glendale/Parks, AZ

April 9, 2009
4:01 PM

Post #6386627

I am going to do that for my fall garden. It is too late to start anything more here.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 9, 2009
4:35 PM

Post #6386834

Great! I'm getting ready for my fall garden, too! I love that season much better than the summer here!
Wulfsden
Riverdale, NJ
(Zone 6a)

April 20, 2009
9:13 PM

Post #6438433

Okay. I get it. I understand how to build a HEB from either 5 gallon buckets or storage tubs. No problemo. Now, suppose I wanted to put something climbing in there like a tomato or two. How does one attach a cage?

This is a great thread BTW... Kudos to all who contributed.


This message was edited Apr 20, 2009 5:14 PM
rtl850nomore
Glendale/Parks, AZ

April 20, 2009
11:34 PM

Post #6439143

Ring your buckets with chicken wire, fencing or drill holes in the bucket lid and drop the legs of a wire tomato cage down in the holes.
rtl850nomore
Glendale/Parks, AZ

April 23, 2009
3:38 PM

Post #6452255

ok, I got a couple of pickle buckets from a school cafeteria on Monday. After leaving them out in the Arizona sun, this morning they still smell of pickles. Anyone know how to get that smell to go away or should I just plant cucumbers and hope that half the work towards them being pickles is done.
Pugzley
Lake Elsinore, CA

April 23, 2009
4:04 PM

Post #6452344

Try using a few drops of bleach and some dishwashing liquid in the bucket filled with water, let it set for a couple of hours and rinse really well, that should get rid of most of the pickle smell.
rtl850nomore
Glendale/Parks, AZ

April 24, 2009
2:11 AM

Post #6454903

Stanks gone...thanks Pugzley.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 24, 2009
1:22 PM

Post #6456346

Send Pugzley some pickles...
darkmoondreamer
(Karen) Frankston, TX
(Zone 8a)

April 24, 2009
1:41 PM

Post #6456413

well darn, wish I'd known about the bleach at Christmastime when I made tea in old pickle jars and guess what the tea ended up tasting like? BLECCHHH

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 24, 2009
2:19 PM

Post #6456605

Don't ever store jars or plastic containers with the lids on em'. Keeps the smell in. Let 'em air out, topless.
Pugzley
Lake Elsinore, CA

April 24, 2009
7:35 PM

Post #6458050

I do love pickes. :)
rtl850nomore
Glendale/Parks, AZ

May 4, 2009
6:08 PM

Post #6503053

Whooooeeeeeee I curb shopped me some Devota wickin' sleeve last night.

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Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

May 4, 2009
7:12 PM

Post #6503354

Devota likes curb shoppin'.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

May 4, 2009
10:00 PM

Post #6504078

wow. That might need to be Devota Wicked sleeve! Curb shopping -- I LOVE IT!
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

May 4, 2009
10:39 PM

Post #6504254

where ya been G?
darkmoondreamer
(Karen) Frankston, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 4, 2009
11:18 PM

Post #6504412

she don't love us anymore...sob...
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

May 4, 2009
11:29 PM

Post #6504451

does too...does too.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

May 5, 2009
1:53 PM

Post #6506795

Do to...Do to!

Been working hard on my day job in the office! Gotta earn more power tool money! Bought the 4-pc Craftsman Laser set and a 7.25" sliding miter saw this weekend. Gotta pay off the credit card bill. My President (and Ms. Orman) don't want me carrying all that credit card weight!

I was debt-free for 15 years before I met and married my DH, and then maxed it out again with our wedding (and I was only helping him out-- don't even want to see what he owes on that one, 'cause he went to Jared!). I just paid off my credit card in full earlier this year, and I am keeping CLOSE tabs on how high it creeps upward!

So -- get to work, Linda!

Hugs and Crosses!

"Toolgirl"
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX

May 8, 2009
5:46 PM

Post #6522318

So what have you built with all those wonderful new tools?

Your compost sifter? Your vertical garden?

"Curious minds..."

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

May 8, 2009
6:16 PM

Post #6522430

Bubba! My power saw delivered yesterday. Just LMK what my apprentice schedule looks like!

Oh. And yah know that side of my yard right behind the garage where all the sunshine hits that YOU said would make the perfect garden patch? Well, I went home yesterday and it was leveled off for a concrete slab. Seems the DH needs expansion room for HIS tools...

It took all I had to not rip my tomato plants outta their EBs...
Wulfsden
Riverdale, NJ
(Zone 6a)

May 8, 2009
10:16 PM

Post #6523309

GG: Maybe its time you talk to DH about how you have noticed that the sun hits there all day long, and how uncomfortable he will be. Offer to help him level a nice patch in the shade.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

May 9, 2009
2:48 AM

Post #6524532

Thanks, Wulfie, but the slab is not for him to sit on -- it's for him to park MORE tools on 'cause he can't slip a piece of paper into the garage it's so packed...
Bubba_MoCity
Missouri City, TX

May 9, 2009
2:39 PM

Post #6525821

Maybe you could talk him into extendiung the garage another 10 feet of so and let you help with the construction.

You would learn how to use all your tools and be able to "build-in" your vetical garden at the same time.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

May 10, 2009
4:20 AM

Post #6528468

Nice try guys. Today I learned the DH has extended the slab along the back of the garage by another 2 ft. For a total extension of 4 ft. Into the yard. He's not gonna rip the rear garage wall out but will just add 3 walls to make a storage room. Concrete coming Monday and all is not lost. I've negotiated a 6' x 17' slab in my potting corner so I won't have to work in the mud. And, I'm having it poured where I'll be left with a 6' x 18' line of dirt parallel to that slab right along the south fenceline. How many of ya'll can guess what's gonna happen after that slab gets poured? LMK what you think could, should, or will happen. I'll send a small prize for either the correct or the BEST answer! Linda
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

May 10, 2009
11:11 AM

Post #6528888

My guess...your chainsaw and your DH goes missing. No No. I don't deserve a prize. But it all just comes together. Or maybe I watch too many csi.

This message was edited May 10, 2009 7:52 AM
Wulfsden
Riverdale, NJ
(Zone 6a)

May 10, 2009
3:59 PM

Post #6529811

Personally I would negotiate for a bit of that behind the garage space to become a potting shed, or else Devota would be right! Muuuhahahahahah!!!!!
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

May 10, 2009
9:41 PM

Post #6530855

For real this time G [aka toolgirl.] I wonder if you plan to put in some stackers but then I don't know if this is the wall where you have all your EBs. Give us a hint? D
tubbytee
Ames, NE
(Zone 5b)

May 11, 2009
1:24 AM

Post #6531696

GG's greenhouse is my guess...

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

May 11, 2009
1:45 AM

Post #6531782

Correction. Its the north fence. The tomato EBs are on the south fence. A hint, huh? Ummm. The laser saw will be coming out of the box. And do ya'll know what the concrete guy used to cut the frame boards? The very same 7.25 laser saw I just bought! Its gonna be a gigantic garage sale one day.
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

May 11, 2009
3:11 AM

Post #6532127

I won't get a wink of sleep tonight...a 6 foot by 18 foot slab of concrete against a north fence...I know I know! You're building me a an artists' studio!
Are you building a greenhouse as was suggested?

This message was edited May 10, 2009 11:14 PM
Qinx
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7a)

May 11, 2009
6:36 PM

Post #6534573

If the husband comes up missing, the slab may need to be excavated!
Qinx
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7a)

May 11, 2009
7:06 PM

Post #6534689

Hmmm... A little small for an Olympic sized pool. You'd need to build underground for a dooms-day-bunker, so that's not it. um. How 'bout building those things for the thing from way back when you really wanted the thingies but didn't have a thing to put there?
Wulfsden
Riverdale, NJ
(Zone 6a)

May 11, 2009
11:24 PM

Post #6535990

You guys are having a bad influence on me.

I popped into W-mart to get a shipping envelope, and on the way out I noticed these big 19"-across tubs reduced to $4 from $8. I measured from the top of one to the top of the next one down in the stack. Almost 4". Hmmmm... That would mean a 4" reservoir. The Lowes is next door. I would need some 4" PVC pipe, some 2 inch PVC pipe and some nylon ties. My local garden store is expecting the coir on Thursday... There's a brewing store in the next town for rice hulls... I had a HEB half-built in my head when Wulfette read my expression and dragged me from the store. Whew!!

Ed

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

May 12, 2009
4:54 AM

Post #6537422

Well, this game has ended before we got started. I came home to find that my DDH ordered too much concrete and rather than just letting it goooooo, he had it poured past the form I spent 2 hours placing to maximize the ground space along the fence. I was gonna place THREE 4 x 3' raised veggie beds there for my fall brassicas, with space left to fit one more later!! With 18" between each box so I could reach em! Now I might be able to get 2 boxes there right next to the horrible 3' Soldier plants that all the garter snakes scurry under. If they and the real snakes don't get me, the soldier will stab me in the butt every time I bend over. I'm considering watering them with bleach... So who really got it right? Use the honor system and LMK. Linda
joy112854
Crestview, FL

May 12, 2009
8:06 AM

Post #6537591

Gymgirl: I am laughing picturing all that, sorry. LOL
joy
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

May 12, 2009
11:47 AM

Post #6537838

Toolgirl, give us an ARgghgggggggggggggg! [Is the DDH still alive?]
Qinx
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7a)

May 12, 2009
12:03 PM

Post #6537883

DDH = Dearly Departed Husband?

LOL
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

May 12, 2009
12:46 PM

Post #6538023

Don't kill him G...Just outlive him. I didn't get it right. Don't know who did.
Qinx
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7a)

May 12, 2009
12:58 PM

Post #6538076

Hmm... seems you have planted a cement slab! Don't think that was a guess!
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

May 12, 2009
2:02 PM

Post #6538358

Okay G, AKA toolgirl. You got time, you got ideas, you got tools. You know that old saw about when life hands you lemons? Well, if I know you, by this evening you will have reconfigured the whole thing and think it a blessing that it turned out this way. Toolgirls rule!
Qinx
Fredericksburg, VA
(Zone 7a)

May 12, 2009
2:14 PM

Post #6538397

Now you can build a hydroponic/coir garden on top of the slab out of pipe!

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

May 12, 2009
2:44 PM

Post #6538525

Qinx, you're getting close!

D, you're right on time. And, yes, after I settled down overnight, I'm beginning to see some sugar -- or, at least some Splenda!

Hugs, All!

Gotta go work for MONEY to buy SEEDS, COIR, and to pay the WATER BILL!

Could ya'll imagine if the DH paid the water bill how dead somebo--thing might be right about now after challenging my water use...? One 'a the best calls I EVER made!

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