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2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2009
2:54 AM

Post #6430390

I went out to take more pics for the toms curling leaves, and found that I have several different kinds of visitors. Good news is, I don't need a new camera, as I thought, the pics are quite good.



I have 7 dust in the shed, can I use that for the visitors for now? An emergency tx until I can get something better?

This pic is the first guy on the toms. my suspicion is that he is causing the leaves to curl.

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2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2009
2:56 AM

Post #6430394

Peppers. I thought these were eggs, until I looked at the pic. It's obvious that they are more than eggs, just not sure what.

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2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2009
2:57 AM

Post #6430401

This little guy is on the romaine. I had no idea that the entire garden has become a bed and breakfast.

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2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2009
2:58 AM

Post #6430408

More romaine

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darkmoondreamer
(Karen) Frankston, TX
(Zone 8a)

April 19, 2009
2:59 AM

Post #6430414

Dang, your camera is good at closeups!!!! Those are definately Aphids on your peppers...Best cure of all? Dawn dishwashing liquid mixed with water and sprayed on heavy. Will kill em dead quick and works better on Aphids than poison.

Good old sevin dust is fine for the other bugs, still works after all these years :)
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2009
3:00 AM

Post #6430418

And here's another little guy. I am not sure, this is not as good a pic as the others, but it looks like this is a litltle guy with 2 horns on the top. If not, I'm just bug crazy now. Anyhoo, this is a yellow squash plant.

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2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2009
3:01 AM

Post #6430424

Wow, thanks for the good news on the 7 since I"m not tip top today and really didn't want to have to go out tomorrow for this.

I had NO idea the camera would do this. Especially the 'egg' picture. Imagine my surprise.




Opps, forgot the worm. I gotta go find him.

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2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2009
3:04 AM

Post #6430442

This is what I posted before, thinking it was the lace worm.

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2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2009
3:05 AM

Post #6430443

Same guy, closer

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2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2009
3:05 AM

Post #6430447

And this is what he has done all over.

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joy112854
Crestview, FL

April 19, 2009
5:57 AM

Post #6430903

2 busy gardening: It's a catepillar and if it has horns you'd better do the drop and stomp real quick, they grow huge pretty quick, you said it looked like it had horns on it, oooooh, my goodness, sounds like the awful horned catepillar, he loves peppers, eggplants, tomatoes and potatoes, not sure about squash. Then either use Dipel dust or Fertilome Triple action plus or something with BT in it.
joy

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2009
12:48 PM

Post #6431481

2Busy what camera did you use?
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 19, 2009
5:38 PM

Post #6432543

Exilim by casio. It's not even the newest. I was considering buying the newest until I saw these pics.

3.2 mega pixels I believe it's about 4 or 5 years old.

Pugzley
Lake Elsinore, CA

April 20, 2009
12:18 AM

Post #6434230

Great pictures, 2busygardening! I see you've got a world class Bug Zoo that rivals mine. :)

I only recognize the aphids... I have plenty of aphids if anyone wants to buy some. LOL!
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
12:46 AM

Post #6434407

I try!!! :)

And things were rolling along so well. Then, BANG! It's like I've opened up a bed and breakfast for any and all kinds of pests.

I put some 7 on it today. I'm hoping that will help, it sure seems that all this effort should not be for nothing.

Ray_Der_Phan

Ray_Der_Phan
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 10a)

April 20, 2009
12:48 AM

Post #6434415

Aphids are definitely the cause of your leafs curling. I just went out and killed a bunch. They're kinda fun to pop with your fingers. After squishing a few hundred or so my hands are pretty gooey :)
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
12:50 AM

Post #6434427

Aphids: that's the soap and water one, right? I'm going to do that tomorrow. I figured between the soap and the 7 I ought to be able to get a handle on all of the visitors.
Pugzley
Lake Elsinore, CA

April 20, 2009
12:51 AM

Post #6434430

The Mexican Beetles (ladybug look alikes but orange not red!) have made their debut today. Oh, those monsters can really eat.

I'm going to have to put Sevin on, too. I have the dust. Must do that tomorrow at the crack of dawn or they'll have eaten holes in everything out there. Found them on the lettuce. Peppers are going outside tomorrow night...

I agree, all this effort should not be for nothing. I don't know that there are any beneficials here that eat those beetles.
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

April 20, 2009
12:52 AM

Post #6434433

I wish you sucess with your garden visitors. Let em plant their own garden I say. D
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
12:52 AM

Post #6434435

BTW, are the aphids the ones that I thought were seeds until I saw the pic? The little green ones? I figure they might have been babies since they were so small, but they kinda look like what I thought an aphid looked like only the wrong color.
Pugzley
Lake Elsinore, CA

April 20, 2009
12:53 AM

Post #6434439

Ray_Der_Phan

Don't waste the aphids, we can toss them into the blender with the tomato horned worms. :)
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

April 20, 2009
12:54 AM

Post #6434440

Aphids... yes. Show them no mercy with the soap.
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
12:54 AM

Post #6434442

Devota: I'm with you. If they would just stay in their own, I would even make them their own raised bed. But, from what I've seen, you just can't trust these buggers.
Pugzley
Lake Elsinore, CA

April 20, 2009
12:54 AM

Post #6434444

Yes, they are 2 busy. And dish liquid with water sprayed on works great on those.
And never a better or clearer pic of those devils have I ever seen. They must be related to mine, they are identical. LOL
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
12:55 AM

Post #6434445

The MASTER BLASTER with the DAWN. that's what I'll do. yep, that's it.

Ray_Der_Phan

Ray_Der_Phan
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 10a)

April 20, 2009
12:55 AM

Post #6434449

Oh the Mexican Bean Beetles are voracious little suckers. I don't have many around but I know when I do because they can damage a plant real fast.


Oh and that little guy with 2 horns on his head looks like a Scale bug. I have plenty of them around.
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

April 20, 2009
12:56 AM

Post #6434452

Careful, Linda will want to come to your assistance with her crossbow.
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
12:56 AM

Post #6434453

The scale bug. Will the 7 get him?
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
12:57 AM

Post #6434457

I have so many it seems we will need more than one bow.

Ray_Der_Phan

Ray_Der_Phan
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 10a)

April 20, 2009
12:58 AM

Post #6434463

[quote]Don't waste the aphids, we can toss them into the blender with the tomato horned worms. :)[/quote]

LOL Oh ya! They would add just the right amount of flavor to our Green Machine drink :)
Devota
Johnson City, TN
(Zone 6b)

April 20, 2009
12:58 AM

Post #6434464

I'm starting to itch all over with this bug talk. Oh I did get bit again by a tick yesterday but he or she paid with their life. They don't bother the dog. hmm maybe I need to use a flea and tick collar.

Ray_Der_Phan

Ray_Der_Phan
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 10a)

April 20, 2009
1:01 AM

Post #6434479

Sevin doesn't work on any of the bugs that I have. Think they're immune to every kind of insecticide I can get in Cali. They only thing Sevin did was kill some bees last year :( I vowed to never use that stuff again.

Ray_Der_Phan

Ray_Der_Phan
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 10a)

April 20, 2009
1:04 AM

Post #6434494

Here's some info on Scale bugs...

http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/problems/scale-bug-how-to-control-plant-scale.htm

2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
1:04 AM

Post #6434496

I'm trying to get to a place where I can get some stuff from Bob, but not there just yet. I'm hoping this will do it. XXXX your fingers for me.

Oh and the blender thing, I'm right there with you...
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
1:06 AM

Post #6434502

Cool, the soap will work for him as well.
Pugzley
Lake Elsinore, CA

April 20, 2009
1:09 AM

Post #6434510

I mentioned this in another thread, thus the joke about the green drinks... ugh!

My neighbor swears that if you blend the pests together, add some water, strain it and spray them on the plants it is the best insecticide he's used.

I don't think he was joking. But I haven't got THAT many bugs to find out for sure. :)

However, the way things are going over here, it wouldn't be beyond me to go on a bug hunt, the neighbors wouldn't mind if I went around picking all the bugs of their plants, ya think?
Pugzley
Lake Elsinore, CA

April 20, 2009
1:10 AM

Post #6434515

I have more than one bow! I've got 4. And a slingshot!
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
1:15 AM

Post #6434534

Sounds good, we ride at sunset!!! I'll bring the coffee, you bring the bows. Can I use the slingshot? It's probably the safer for me. lol
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
1:16 AM

Post #6434538

I just emailed Bob to see about his Stylet oil and how many of my visitors it will take care of. Maybe I will have to do that sooner than later.
Pugzley
Lake Elsinore, CA

April 20, 2009
1:21 AM

Post #6434556

I'm using the Stylet oil. It works great but you have to keep applying it until they are all gone. If you miss one aphid, they'll be back in full force. The soap and water works well on them, too.

I bought the Stylet Oil for the spider mites that show up here in very hot, dry weather. They are sucker bugs also.

I think, from my limited experience that it works best on bugs that suck on the leaves, thus the name Stylet (stylet is that thing sucker bugs use to pierce the leaves) It smothers them.

I can say that it has had little to no effect on the beneficals here, it works on contact with little residual even the next day. So you have to stay on it and don't spray it during the day, you have to do it in the evening.

Yes, make that coffee strong, we might be up for awhile.

Wanted to add that it won't kill caterpillar types or even my Mexican beetles.

This message was edited Apr 19, 2009 6:22 PM
Tplant
Pembroke Pines, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 20, 2009
1:24 AM

Post #6434582

YES, ALWAYS BEST TO SPRAY AT DUSK OR NIGHTFALL AS THAT IS WHEN THE BUGGERS BECOME EVEN MORE ACTIVE!
Pugzley
Lake Elsinore, CA

April 20, 2009
1:26 AM

Post #6434600

Tplant, have you also noticed that they are very active after watering? It seems that they are attracted to the water. At least it seems that way to me, aphids I mean.
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
1:36 AM

Post #6434658

Wow, the evening thing is good to know. Although I work during the week so that is when I usually can do this type of thing, Saturdays and Sundays are garden days as well so I would possible be doing this type of work at the wrong times. Thanks.
Tplant
Pembroke Pines, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 20, 2009
1:38 AM

Post #6434668

They are there at anytime but they must be destroyed wether it be with pesticides or organically as they are the harbingers of real problems to come. I use the Park's Sticky Traps. They are a bright yellow and when I see them on the stickies I spray my plants as I do not like to use excess pesticide. You can see the yellow stikies in this picture of two years ago.

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Pugzley
Lake Elsinore, CA

April 20, 2009
1:41 AM

Post #6434682

Another reason not to spray in the daytime (edited here) is that it can burn the leaves of your plants on hot days, it's oil and it intensifies the sun when it's wet. It'll have time to dry off at night and during the cool morning hours, before the sun is so strong.

I bought a sprayer at Home Depot or Lowe's. They're about 18.00 plus tax here, great thing to have so you can get under the leaves where they hide, the sprayer puts out spray at 360 degrees so you can get under there.

This message was edited Apr 19, 2009 6:42 PM
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 20, 2009
2:04 AM

Post #6434763

Tplant: what do you use for the times when you must spray?
Tplant
Pembroke Pines, FL
(Zone 10a)

April 20, 2009
3:29 PM

Post #6436848

Well mostly Ortho products for insect control. Just make sure what you use is for vegetables or edible foods and NOT SYSTEMIC...For horned caterpillars or army worms I use the BT dust and use a hand mister which covers all. They also have the powder in green so you don't have a snow covered plant but even if you use the white powder it works very well.
2busygardening
Dade City, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 21, 2009
10:44 AM

Post #6441202

thanks, I'll keep this info

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