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    Communities > Forums > Article: Peat Moss Alternatives: Coconut Coir and Rice Hulls.
    Forum: Article: Peat Moss Alternatives: Coconut Coir and Rice Hulls.Replies: 10, Views: 157
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    darius

    darius
    So.App.Mtns.
    United States (Zone 5b)

    May 7, 2009 11:41 AM

    Post #6516148

    Jill, interesting article... Thanks.

    I've read a lot about rice hulls, esp. used as wall insulation. (Google "Rice Hull House") They used to be free in our few coastal states that grow rice, and probably still are close to free. It's the transportation cost that increases the price, although now they are adding it to cattle and hog feed so they are selling more of it.

    Ken Druse just published a piece on peat this week:
    The Real Dirt on Peat Moss
    http://www.gardenrant.com/my_weblog/2009/04/ken-druse-dishes...
    bluekat76
    Ijamsville, MD (Zone 6b)

    May 7, 2009 1:32 PM

    Post #6516497

    Great article Jill! I used the coir, rice hull, vermiculite and fertilizer potting mix this year for my tomatoes and have it in my deck containers. I love it and it is so much cheaper than the "other" stuff.

    Plants are happy, environment is happy and the grower is happy!
    -Kim

    Indy
    Alexandria, IN (Zone 6a)

    May 7, 2009 10:14 PM

    Post #6518848

    I haven't tried coir or rice hulls for planters yet...might be ok.

    As far as peat moss goes, I feel that the environmental aspect is much over stated. I get some well hydrated local [6 miles away] peat moss from a farmer which is great for amending beds along with sharp sand, compost, and horse manure mixed in deeply with good top soil.

    critterologist

    critterologist
    Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)

    May 9, 2009 3:29 AM

    Post #6524708

    Thanks for reading & commenting!

    Darius, that looks like a great link.

    Kim, I figured you were using that mix; glad it's working well for you!

    Indy, although i haven't used my coir mix in too many planters yet, so far it looks like it would provide excellent drainage (my main consideration for a good container mix). As far as the environmental aspect goes, overstated or not I figure peat is a nonrenewable resource, so finding alternatives is a good thing. It also seems to me that coir and rice hulls might be a little easier on my pocketbook, but I haven't quite worked out the math to compare the expanded volume of the coir mix compared to the bales of Pro Mix I've used in the past.
    Indy
    Alexandria, IN (Zone 6a)

    May 9, 2009 3:43 PM

    Post #6526080

    I understand that there are millions acres of peat moss in canada...growing far faster than being harvested. ...so i don't understand the "non-renewable" slant that some give it.

    Coir SHIPPED from Sri Lanka has its own eco shortcomings, but that's ok by me also.

    This message was edited May 9, 2009 3:36 PM

    critterologist

    critterologist
    Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)

    May 9, 2009 10:13 PM

    Post #6527301

    You definitely get different sides of the story depending on where you look... that's why I posted links to a couple of different viewpoints (see endnotes at bottom of article).

    :-)
    Maria
    Rehoboth, MA (Zone 5a)

    May 11, 2009 11:03 AM

    Post #6532685

    Critter, thanks for telling us the alternative to peatmoss having used that along with vermiculite for eons of years. I do remember one type I used in the late forties and fifties when suddenly it stopped being available. I wish I could remember the name, I prefered it to peatmoss, it was very lose and as black as coal and stayed that way. The Nurseryman said the reason for not being able to find it anymore is that it is used as a mix for potting soil and other mixes. I still miss it.
    oldude
    New Iberia, LA

    May 11, 2009 7:56 PM

    Post #6534907

    Critter
    What percentage of rice hulls do you add to your mix? I can get it free here so that would be a big savings.
    Oldude

    critterologist

    critterologist
    Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)

    May 11, 2009 11:17 PM

    Post #6535964

    I'd guess I've been adding maybe 5 or 10 percent by volume of rice hulls, but I'd encourage you to play with different ratios until you find what works best for you (and then report back!). :-)
    herbs501
    Hallettsville, TX (Zone 8b)

    May 12, 2009 12:32 PM

    Post #6537978

    I started using coir this year as the main component of my potting mix, along with locally produced compost and an organic granular fertilizer added to the mix as a sort of "starter charge". I like the coir for its texture and how well it stays hydrated.

    As far as environmental issues, I read the comments referenced about peat, and do understand better now, how peat is harvested and maintained. I understand the issue, also, with shipping the coir from Guyana, in my case, to Ontario, Canada, then to me in Texas. Whew!! Lots of fuel use there.

    I guess we each have to make our own choices and try to be as informed as possible.

    Thanks for the info.

    critterologist

    critterologist
    Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)

    May 13, 2009 12:35 PM

    Post #6542483

    Information is good, and you're right -- there are many sides to this discussion. :-)

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