Let's get a Fuchsia forum going!

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Hi Everyone, I collect hardy upright fuchsia's and am hoping there are enough of us out there to get a fuchsia forum started here at DavesGarden!
I currently have a collection of 60 varieties and plan on expanding that today. But I can't even find photos for 7 of the last 10 I purchased. So I am anxiously waiting for the little starts I purchased to get big enough to bloom and show me what they've got!
I grow my fuchsia's in a variety of settings. From full on all day long sun, to the dappled shade under my fruit trees.
This photo is of one of my favorites, because Delta's Parade can be counted on to be blooming year round here in zone 9b. The hummingbirds and I have some color even in the middle of winter! I also love how fuchsia blossoms change color as they open, as this photo a friend took for me, shows so well.
Let's get a Fuchsia forum going! DavesGarden will give us one if enough of us express interest in having one ;-D
Hmm, for some reason this page is not giving me the option to add a photo.........
If you'd like to see it, then you can go to the Pacific Northwest Gardening forum and I have it there.


This message was edited May 13, 2009 9:39 AM

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Now there is a Image link here. Honest, there wasn't one when I was writing the first message!

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Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Hey California! Where are all of the fuchsia gardeners out there!? I am looking for old fashioned fuchsia's in old gardens. Everywhere I go, I look for big old bushes next to older homes. I love the big simple ones.
Right now, my favorite is the Duchess of Albany. Not that she is one of the old fashioned ones, she is just doing so well! This bush is just blowing me away this year with how big and fast it is growing! Last year it was in a little 4" pot. Now it is in a 15 gallon container and is three feet tall and covered with blossoms. The hummingbirds love it too!

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Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

If you want to get a new forum started, the best thing to do is go to the Dave's Garden forum and start a thread there. You can post a link here if you want to get people over there to vote but the "official" request thread is always in that forum so the admins don't have to keep their eye out in a bunch of different places to see if there's enough interest.

It's too hot here for me to have much luck with the kind of fuchsias that you're showing so I gave up on them a long time ago--I'm sure there are some people who live closer to the coast who grow them though.

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

HI ecrane3, I did "talk" to Dave' Garden, and they suggested that I first get enough people interested. Once I have received enough responce, we can redirect to a thread in the Dave's Garden forum and let them know.
Per them, there are a lot of forums going unused right now, gathering cobwebs was the term, ha, ha. So they aren't making new ones as easily as before.
I grow allot of my fuchsia's right out in the direct sun. I live 12 miles inland and my friends live in Hollister, Gilroy, Temecula, etc. It gets very hot up here in the mountains. So I don't grow hanging baskets, you are right, they can't take the heat or the sun. But if a hardy upright fuchsia is grown in the ground and in good rich soil, with the base of the plant and roots in the shade, not only can they handle the sun, they grow like crazy.

Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

PedricksCorner,
How do they handle the wind? (may I call you PC for short?) I live 10 miles north of Temecula, and fuschia's are some of my favorite plants, but I can't find any that can handle the heat and the wind combo. Sadly, I have given up on them. I remember loving them when we lived in Santa Ana.
If I could find something that would survive here, I'd love it! ^_^
Just my 2 cents worth.
Walk In Beauty!
SingingWolf

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Hi SingingWolf,
It gets pretty windy here also. The huge eucalyptus trees lining the gulch along the edges of the ridge throw down tons of leaves, bark, and branches constantly. I am forever clearing the front, side, and back yards of the debris!
My collection of fuchsia's doesn't seem to mind. Occasionally the combination of heat and wind will damage the new flowers on the ones with the larger type of blossoms. Guess that is just one more reason why I love the little flowers so much!
There are always so many blossoms on the bushes with the little flowers, that even if a few get damaged, there are so many more, one can barely tell. Three of my favorites are Magellanica, Lycioides, and Mrs. J. D. Fredricks.
Here is a photo of Lycioides. When the bush is in full bloom, it is a blaze of red!

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Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

Your Lycioides is a real beauty. I think I have a couple of places where they might survive. Be appropriate to plant near the Old cabin that DH;s Grandpa built. I'll have to look for the other two you mentioned.
Thanks for the info.
WIB,
SW

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Hi California, I am still hoping to see more people with upright fuchsia's posting photos of their gardens here! And sharing varieties. I just went to a cool website and they only had 10 out of my 60. But they also had many I didn't have, so I hope to be purchasing new varieties from them soon.
Here is a photo of one row of my specimens. Just to show that they can also handle full sun. It isn't the best photo, my camera isn't as good as my friends. The bush you can see the most of is the Duchess of Albany.
In the backyard, Voodoo, Magellanica, Lycioides, White Wonder, Black Prince, Chang, and many others, spend almost the entire day out in the full sun!!

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Manteca, CA(Zone 9b)

I am trying fuchsia again this year. I remember sitting on my Grandmother front porch in San Jose with what must have been a 8 ft tall fushcia tree. I wish I knew which one this one was.

San Francisco Bay Ar, CA(Zone 9b)

I used to live in the Santa Cruz area as well, and one year I went a little crazy with the fuchsia starts at Antonelli Brothers. I had to give away most of my collection when I moved over the hill (moved into a 2nd story apartment with a tiny balcony), but I still have a few plants left. Here is a not so good photo I took this morning of the fuchsia/clematis/geranium jungle.

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San Francisco Bay Ar, CA(Zone 9b)

I love the shape of the blooms on 'Nettala,' and can't wait for my plant to grow a bit more.

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Emerald Hills, CA(Zone 9b)

Fuschia newbie here! I got a small nettala, last year - seems to be thriving (ie. it's becoming quite tall) , and it's whet my appetite for lanky fuschias. Should I trim it, so it branches out more? In the past few weeks, it's developed a few lateral branches, do don't know if that's necessary.

The other two fuschias I have are bushy, but only about 3 ft. tall - I do trim them back annually (or the deer trim them, depends who gets there first). One was a bonus, when I purchased a plant at a Flea Market - looking at Pedrick's marketplace fuschia's, I'd guess it to be a Magellanica. The other one is a common type in nurseries, but I can't find the name online - it's got dark reddish leaves & long narrow coral red flowers.

I also have a hanging fuschia that refuses to die, but the foliage dies back to nothing every year in late summer, due to mite - just too high maintenance for my garden, at this point, when I can see that there are many fuschia's that don't seem as susceptible to fuschia mite.

I have memories of the fuschia (pink & blue flowers) at my parents garden that was 5 - 6 ft. tall, every summer, with no care other than occasional water... it's still there, 30 years later, but seems to be on its last legs.

Looking forward to learning more about fuschia's & expanding my collection!

Liz





This message was edited May 18, 2009 7:53 PM

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Hi sunnyg, guess where I started my fuchsia collection, ha, ha! And guess where I worked for ten years......back then, I had an acre of ferns and their greenhouses went all the way down to Capitola Road. Those were the days!
What a beautiful little "jungle" you have. Looks pretty well organized and maintained to me ;-) Is that the Duchess of Albany?
And yes, I love the unusual petals on Nettala also. It is one of the ones I am hoping to add to my collection soon. I just found one I had been looking for forever, Chang. An upright with simple flowers that have the most orange hue I have seen yet on a fuchsia. It will be some time though, before I start to propigate it. I just put it into a 15 gallon container and it is taking off! What others did you keep?

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Hi 3bebad2, that is the kind of fuchsia memories I am talking about! Those huge old flower bushes that used to be beside all the porches of the older homes. And San Jose, talk about hot weather! But upright fuchsia's in the ground can handle it and thrive if taken care of! I wish I knew which one it was also.
Everywhere I go, I keep my eyes open looking for fuchsia's in the yards of older homes, to see if I can find some of the older varieties. And I have found a few. Who knows what their names are though, I am still hunting down the names of a few. So for now, I just name them after who ever let me take a cutting, ha, ha!
What colors did your Grandmothers have?

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Hi lizzipa, I think the fuchsia you are talking about is Gartenmeister (it's got dark reddish leaves & long narrow coral red flowers.") That one is pretty tough and can regrow even if it freezes to the ground.
I've never grown Nettala, but yes, in general I would recomend pruning long branches. They can get heavy and break. Especially if there are allot of blooms on the ends. I also try to keep the blooming branches from being near the ground because of the cats in the area. Hummingbirds love fuchsia's so much that they will risk their lives to get to the lower hanging flowers. And I love hummingbirds! That is one reason why I began collecting fuchsia's. The hummingbirds at my house are so tame, they will come right up to your face!
Maybe the 30 year old fuchsia at your parents house just needs some help? Gophers can do allot of damage, but they can also aerate the soil down deep and allow for a deeper watering. Has it ever been fed or pruned? If you think it is on it's last legs, maybe it would be worth it to try and see if it has another chance left in it. Is if far from you? Would your parents be willing to try and see if feeding it every two weeks for a while helps? In my experience, even if a fuchsia is battleling the mites, they can succeed if they have good soil, water, and are fed on a regular basis. They can outgrow the mite.
Are the flowers very small pink and blue? Like Magellanica? Or larger and bluer? Next I will be begging you to take a cutting and send it to me!! Then it would live on in a new bush.

Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

Ped, what kind of fuschia (hardy) would you recommend for someone that you've convinced to try them again?
WIB,
SW

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Hi SW, gee, there are so many color and form variations to choose from! How can a parent decide, ha, ha! What would you prefer? Tall and lanky, short and dense? And what are your color preferences? I'd be happy to suggest something, with a few clues ;-)
Just bear in mind that my personal favorites are always going to be the simple and smaller blossoms. Like my good old friend Vinegar Joe here! A classic!
btw, I am a citizen of the Chickasaw Nation, I like your name.

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Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

Yatahey!
I'm Cherokee and Kickapoo, among other things.
As a little girl growing up in Santa Ana, there was a kind of fushia that was maybe 3 feet tall. Had delicate pink blossoms on the inside and a pretty red on the outside. I seem to recall that it liked partial shade. Doesn't have to be showy. Drought tolerant would be really useful too. Got a crop of Hummers out here that would be using it for food too.
Hope that helps you to narrow down your ideas. I do appreciate the help!
WIB!
SW

Emerald Hills, CA(Zone 9b)

Pedrick (is that your preferred name?)

Thanks for the info. I will definitely trim the netalla! I have two cats, who are hunters, and lover my hummers! I have hummer feeders, but no bird seed feeders, because I don't want to attract birds to any seeds that drop to the ground. My cats catch enough birds as it is (& kindly bring them through the cat door to show me)!

As much as I'd like to, I don't have the time to devote to my parents fuschia - my Mom is 87 & may move soon... she's definitely not a gardeners, though she tries her best with her indoor plants. I took cuttings of her fuschia, once, but was unsuccessful in rooting them. I used to be able to root "anything", years ago before I had kids, but haven't had much luck lately. I recently bought rootone, so that may help.

Looking forward to buying some fuschias from you & learning more about them!

Liz

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Hi Liz,
My name is Catherine, ha, ha! I just saw that you placed some orders, so I will go respond to those in a second.
I have never needed to use rootone, but it might help. And I hope you do give it a try, as I am beside myself with curiosity now :-D !
I may have to throw in something extra for free if you are willing to wrap some in a wet paper towel and mail it to me.....

Catherine

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Chukma SW! I need to respond to some orders and then I will look and see if I can find something like your description. I don't think I have anything like that yet, except perhaps Mrs. J. D. Fredricks. Or maybe it could be Gordon's China Rose, but I don't think so. How big were the flowers?

San Francisco Bay Ar, CA(Zone 9b)

Small world, Catherine :-). Wow, I loved wandering around that nursery. I went on my fuchsia buying spree shortly before the fire. What a shame that was. I'm not sure what cultivars I have, as that was before I paid attention to such things (I still tend to lose my tags). It was so fun to buy those cheap little starts, going solely on the brief description on the tag and hoping for something neat. I only have a couple left, including the hanging basket type as well. I planted one of them in the ground just to see what it would do, and it went wild! I'd never planted a trailing fuchsia in the ground before, and it really spread out. It's just starting to bloom right now, and has many buds on it. I'll have to look up Chang as that sounds like an interesting one.

I'm not sure if the fuchsia in that pic is Duchess of Albany or not. Whatever it is, it's one tough plant. I love it, and so do the hummers. It is from Antonelli Brothers. Here's an older pic of it...what do you think?

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Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Hey sunnyg,
You made me go outside and pick flowers, ha, ha! For a moment there, I thought maybe it could be Temptation. As that one can go either way. But the foliage is very different from the Duchess of Albany and the petals come to a sharper point on the corolla. Gaffrey Lyle was close, but the flowers are much smaller.
I used to be able to tell all of the fuchsia's at Antonelli Bros Begonia Gardens just by their foliage! Because I did allot of the propigation there.
I am going to need to dig up some photos of the acre of ferns I had and post them here! Boy, those were the days I worked in heaven!!!
Gotta go!

Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

Catherine,
I think it was about an inch long (blossom) all together. The fuschia Sunnyg posted is gorgeous too, but the colors are reversed from what I remember. I'd really just be glad to find one that would survive and be happy here.
Lovely flowers on yours Sunnyg.
WIB,
SW

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

SW, I am going to have to hunt that one down. There are so many to choose from, that I have been trying to choose ones as different from each other as I can. And I don't have anything like that, but I like the idea of a red sepals and a pink corolla. Or, as I like to think of them, a red dress with a pink slip, ha, ha! I plan on adding to my collection this week-end. And before I do, I will be doing some research in the fuchsia society websites. As the starts I buy will only have names, no descriptions and no flowers yet to see. I will let you know what I find! Meanwhile, this is a photo of Mrs. J. D. Fredricks. She gets to be a good sized bush with thick branches and small leaves that can withstand winds.

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Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

I was hunting down a list of the uprights I'd like to ad to my collection and came up with a list of 80, ha, ha! Of course I can't afford that yet! And I will be lucky if even 10 of those will be available where I am going today. But one can dream, right?
I have also been writing about fuchsia's in the Pacific Northwest Gardening forum and the Shady Gardens forum in my efforts to drum up support for a Fuschsia forum and a member in one of those had a link to the website below. I was very pleased to see that almost every single one of the 60 already in my collection are listed there as hardies!!
By the way, did you know fuchsia berries are edible? One of my goals is to try and find out which one tastes the best!
Check these guys out! I hope they get you all inspired :-)

http://www.nwfuchsiasociety.com/

Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

Great site. It answered some of my questions. The one shown that most resembled the one I remember from my youth, is Gordon's China Rose. I also liked the Purple Heart, a lot. Actually, I liked so many of them. I am surprised that they are sun lovers that like being watered once a week. Sounds like they might actually survive here. Thanks for providing the link, Carolyn.
I've got some work and thinking to do. Hmmm.
WIB.
SW

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

I was going to suggest Gordon's China Rose!!
Yeah, the notion that fuchsia's have to be in the shade is one of the myths I am trying to bust here! If they are planted in good soil and fed on a regular schedule, they can be stunning. My Winston Churchill is covered with so many blossoms right now, you can barely see the foliage! So is Delta's Parade.
By the way I also grow a Native American veggie called Jerusalem Artichokes. They are related to another native, the Sunflower. But we eat the roots and they taste like the heart of an artichoke. Have you ever tried them? Yesterday, I traded 15 one gallon Jerusalem Artichokes for 15 new varieties of hardy fuchsia's to add to my collection. Ha, ha, I had a blast picking them out. I even found 7 of the 80 on my list I mentioned above. One is called Sundial and is a double with a red orange corolla and red orange sepals. I haven't seen one in bloom in over 20 years, so I am one happy camper. They are all just little rooted starts, so it will be a while, but I will enjoy the anticipation..................;-)

Emerald Hills, CA(Zone 9b)

Catherine,
Am I correct in thinking that fucshia's need more shade if they're in containers? I can clearly see that I'm not fertilizing enough. Do you have a specific fertilizer that you recommend? Looking forward to potting my new fucshia's this weekend!
Thanks.
Liz

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Hi Liz! Yours will need to be in shade until they are established. But once they are growing, you will be amazed at how much sun they can handle even in containers. Of course, the larger the container the better. Most of my stock plants are in 15 gallon containers and almost all of them get at least a few hours of full sun every day. I get allot more flowers that way and the growth stays denser. Which is important for making the cuttings, as there are then more nodes on a short length of cutting and they are closer together on the cutting. That increases the survival rate.
If I could afford it, I would try and find the same fertilizer we used at Antonelli Bros, it is called Romeo and is a water soluable one like Miracle Grow. What I liked about it, was that the numbers were even 18-18-18 so all parts of the plants got the same. I use Miracle Grow just because it is easier to find and cheaper. But I don't like the numbers they provide. I use a syphon feeder and 8lbs of it a month though, so for now, it is Miracle Grow.
One thing is for certain though, I don't like time released because how often one waters and how much one waters is dependent on the weather and the stage of growth of a plant, so you can't ever know for sure when it has run out.
And I feed on a regular basis, every two weeks during most of the year!!! And once a month in the winter. Plants in containers are like birds in a cage, they can't go get what they need, we must provide it for them if we want them to thrive.

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Here is a row of my specimens enjoying a sunny day!

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Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

Yatahey!
Where to start. I love Jerusalem artichokes. I'd like to grow them, and should start looking to plant some. Tasty! I think you probably made a fair trade, if the person you got the fucshia's from, likes them as much as me. The farmers market used to have them in season.
Watsonville is way north of me! Rats! Pestilence! Double Darn!
Granma, always had me plant a row of sunflowers on the outside edges of the garden. She used to make sunflower butter from the seeds. I usually plant the three sisters way, but DH has taken over the kitchen garden this year. I'm doing flowers! ^_^
Since I get lots of sunshine, I'd like to try growing some fucshia along some sunny walls, I wonder if they could disguise the ugly old propane tank? Hmmm. Possibilities.
Thank you for the advice and the link, so many pretties, (cackle like the witch from Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz), while rubbing my paws together.
There are so many great varieties. I learned a lot so far.
WIB!
SW

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Ha, ha! Wait till you see Larry! At least that is what I call him. When I was searching for Jerusalem Artichokes in April of last year, I found a source on CraigsList and drove even further out into the boonies than I live ;-)
I was instructed to turn right onto the first dirt road after going over a wooden bridge. When I did, I saw a group of men hanging around some trucks by a field of "weeds" almost as tall as they were. Just as I was deciding it was a bad idea, Larry and his wife walked out of the "weeds" to ask if I was Catherine.
They led me through the tall grasses (etc) to their trailer and showed me a big pile of the tubers. While I was picking some out, I noticed a huge old fuchsia growing by the trailer. It was exactly the kind of old fashioned fuchsia I search old houses for! With big red and purple single petaled flowers. I asked them for some cuttings and they were happy to let me take a few. Those cuttings are now a bush even larger than those you see in the photo in the post above!!! I just haven't been able to get a good photo of it yet. My camera is a piece of garbage, so I have to wait for friends so come by and take photos, then wait for them to remember to give them to me, ha, ha! Larry's real name is probably Jupiter. But until I confirm that, Larry is going to be an example of how big a hardy upright fuchsia can get in just one year if taken care of properly!
Another really fast grower is Magellanica. The flowers are very small, but it would have that propane tank hidden in no time!

Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

Time to go searching for the hardy types. Thanks for all the help!
So why'd you name him "Larry"? (It's an Indian Thing!) Can't wait to see the photos.
WIB!
SW

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Yes, it is! I name things after something connected to them. I named this fuchsia "Larry" because that is the name of the guy who sold me the sunchokes and gave me the cutting. I took a couple of photos myself, we will see how they turn out. Sometimes I get lucky and they turn out great. I'll be back later if they do.
I have been working on that list of hardy upright fuchsias, so far, I have over 500!! I will post it on my website when it is done.
Have you been to the website of the Northwest Fuchsia Society yet? I can't remember. I am using their list and two others and combining them all.
Back to work here......

Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

I name things too. Trees, flowers, critters, glad to know Larry came by his name honestly.
I haven't checked out the Northwest Fuchsia Society, yet. Just don't have enough time in the day. I am amazed and inspired by your dedication to hardy upright fuchsias. I know it's an incredible amount of work. ^_^
You go girl!
WIB,
SW

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Where is everybody? I know there are more gardeners in California with fuchsia's!!
As promised, here is a photo that includes my Larry. He was just a cutting last year!! Now look at him!
This is out my back door as of yesterday. Magellanica is the biggest one there. Larry is to the right, Black Prince is in the middle, Voodoo is to the left. And off in the distance to the left, you can sort of see Lycioides.
Larry is just getting started with flowers. I can't wait until he is covered in those huge red and purple single flowers. My hummingbirds are ga-ga over him. They love the color red. They will ignore me and feed on the flowers even if I am standing right next to them.
Larry's real name could be Jupiter. Which is a cool name for such a huge bush, so I won't be too bumbed if I have to change it from Larry. Sorry Larry ;-)
For some reason, every time I put the image into browse and then hit preview, it dissappears. So I am going to send this message without it and try again.

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Trying again ;-) It won't do it. I have had this problem here before.
If anyone would like to see the photo, I was able to post it to the Pacific Northwest Gardening Forum in the thread I started there called:

Who Would Like to See a Fuchsia Forum?

Does anybody have any ideas about any other forum that might be a source of fellow fuchsia gardeners?

Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

Catherine,
You have dmail!
WIB,
SW

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