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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
10:14 PM

Post #6558204

Philodendron?
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/155491/

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
10:16 PM

Post #6558212

Sometimes night time photos render better details.
#2

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
10:17 PM

Post #6558221

#3
new leaf

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
10:18 PM

Post #6558223

I think this is a philodendron..but?
This is as close as I could get in the PF
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/161900/

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
10:20 PM

Post #6558228

It has a circular leaf habit, meaning it leaves 360 degrees, it's about 1.5 foot high.

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
10:22 PM

Post #6558232

This is from your neighbor--sorry it's blurry, it has white streaks, but not like the other variegated philodendron.
(variegated) looks like Monstera deliciosa

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
10:23 PM

Post #6558240

more of the white streaked one, but as you see, not too much white.

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
10:25 PM

Post #6558245

And this, no clue...bought it at a private sale last summer, the leaves get 2 feet across. possibly more .HUGE

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
10:28 PM

Post #6558259

Fatsia japonica

thanks!

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
10:29 PM

Post #6558263

more of big leaf

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
10:58 PM

Post #6558391

here is a shot of the philodendron with full leaves and the streak of white

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
11:00 PM

Post #6558399

and I'll throw these in for a bonus


Aglaonema modestum

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
11:05 PM

Post #6558414

more related to this..don't know if these help or not
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=6558228

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
11:06 PM

Post #6558422

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=6558228
adtl photo

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RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

May 16, 2009
11:12 PM

Post #6558443

May I add one as well.

What in the heck is a Monstera siltepecana?

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 16, 2009
11:15 PM

Post #6558450

course! for everyone
ArchAngeL01
Myrtle Beach, SC
(Zone 8b)

May 17, 2009
12:40 AM

Post #6558674

the huge leaved plant is a fatsia/japanese aralia! love 'em!!
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

May 17, 2009
06:45 PM

Post #6561805

Hi Randy!

The 1st plant is a Philodendron; not sure which one yet.

The 2nd plant (variegated) looks like Monstera deliciosa.

Fatsia japonica looks right for the 3rd (big leaf) plant.

The 4th plant looks like Aglaonema modestum, "Chinese Evergreen".

Rachel, is that plant Monstera siltepecana? It is a Central American climber.
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

May 17, 2009
08:10 PM

Post #6562146

I am really not sure exactly what this plant is Dave. I have seen it listed on some other site's as a philodendron.

And this.

http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Monstera pinnatipartita pc.h...

In all reality, my curiousity is...Is it a philodendron or not?

Thank's much for the help.
ArchAngeL01
Myrtle Beach, SC
(Zone 8b)

May 17, 2009
08:13 PM

Post #6562162

swiss cheese plant a kind of philodendron -yet iv'e never ever seen a variegated one!!
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

May 17, 2009
09:36 PM

Post #6562587

Rachel, your plant reminds me of a Pothos, Epipremnum / Scindapsus.
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

May 17, 2009
09:55 PM

Post #6562663

No, Dave, I do not think so.

I will wait for it to mature more and then see.

Thank's much

Rachel
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

May 17, 2009
10:20 PM

Post #6562799

Some of the photos found by googling Monstera siltepecana have a resemblance to your plant.
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

May 17, 2009
10:30 PM

Post #6562852

Only time will tell.


Rachel
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

May 17, 2009
10:38 PM

Post #6562900

How old is the plant. Many Aroids have a juvenile leaf form and an adult form, it is good judgment to let the plant mature.

Dave
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

May 17, 2009
10:51 PM

Post #6562967

Dave, I have no idea how old this plant is. I purchased it a few week's ago and have not re-potted it up yet so I have no idea of the "root system".

Rachel
LariAnn
Miami, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 18, 2009
02:33 PM

Post #6565739

Rachel,

There is a very good chance that your plant is not an aroid at all. The veination has me very suspicious, and if I could see the leaf attachment to the stem in a picture, that would just about lock it in for me.

LariAnn
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

May 18, 2009
03:28 PM

Post #6565966

OK and thank's much LariAnn. I will post a pic for you this evening when I get home from work.

Rachel
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

May 18, 2009
08:21 PM

Post #6567353

Hope this help's LariAnn.

Thank's again

Rachel

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LariAnn
Miami, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 18, 2009
08:28 PM

Post #6567377

Oh, Rachel, it's too out of focus to get a good look!

LariAnn
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

May 18, 2009
08:30 PM

Post #6567383

One more and I hope this one is a little more clear.

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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

May 18, 2009
08:34 PM

Post #6567399

The leaves of Rachel's plant, come off of the stem like an Aroid.
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

May 18, 2009
08:42 PM

Post #6567435

That's the best pic my camera will pic up. It's not a great camera for close up picture's...Sorry but thank you both for trying to help.

Rachel
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

May 18, 2009
09:12 PM

Post #6567550

No worry Rachel! Give the plant some water, sunshine, fertilizer, and some time!

Aloha, Dave
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

May 18, 2009
09:31 PM

Post #6567687

OK, Dave. Will do.

Rachel
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)

May 19, 2009
01:21 AM

Post #6568724

Interesting thread...carry on...!
Happy_1
Fort Lauderdale, FL
(Zone 10b)

May 19, 2009
07:23 AM

Post #6569083

Good Morning All.

It the post that rj made at 11:06 a plant that I see here as Zanadu?

Hap
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 19, 2009
10:37 AM

Post #6569771

Callisia fragrans, the "Chain Plant" or Fragrant Callisia. A Commelina Family member.

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 19, 2009
10:38 AM

Post #6569775

The grow in to large stocks, the top looking similar to a bromeliad, but grows like a Chlorophytum.

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 19, 2009
10:39 AM

Post #6569778

The stems to the smaller guys get pretty long. The small ones have a purple hue

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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

May 19, 2009
12:16 PM

Post #6570161

Hi Randy, this plant is Callisia fragrans, the "Chain Plant" or Fragrant Callisia. A Commelina Family member.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 19, 2009
12:20 PM

Post #6570178

Thanks, never heard of it, and never saw it until someone left it at the plant swap here a couple of years ago. No one else around here has seen it either..I took a couple over to Zone9 and they sold in a second.
Grub_Worm
Jacksonville, FL
(Zone 9a)

May 27, 2009
08:21 PM

Post #6606679

I think I have the same plant as the original post ID question. I bought it locally about a month ago with no name. Its is starting to put out arial(sp) roots...

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Grub_Worm
Jacksonville, FL
(Zone 9a)

May 27, 2009
08:22 PM

Post #6606685

Heres the lower part.

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Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

May 27, 2009
11:52 PM

Post #6607767

Happy made a suggestion which was close.

Turns out that the plant may be Philodendron 'Xanadu'. A fairly recent hybrid.

The pictures you get by googling look like it. I have one of these plants, but it isn't doing well.
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

May 28, 2009
08:48 AM

Post #6608582

This is my "Xanadu", does look very much like the one in the original post and the last two photos in the thread. The only thing not apparent in the photos is the scale of size. Xanadu is basically a dwarf philodendron, actually a dwarf Philodendron selloum I think.

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Happy_1
Fort Lauderdale, FL
(Zone 10b)

May 28, 2009
08:53 AM

Post #6608595

Thanks, Dave.

That's grown a lot around here. My city, about 6 months ago, put them all along one corridor, in full sun, in our coral-rock soil, with very limited if any water. Well, you can guess what they look like now! Only about 20% of the plants have lived and the rest are about ready to die. Such a waste. AND the place looks terrible. They would have been so beautiful if only they had been taken care of.

Hap
Happy_1
Fort Lauderdale, FL
(Zone 10b)

May 28, 2009
08:55 AM

Post #6608605

TB,

The one's in my neighbor's yard, which are beautiful, are about 26" high and full.

Hap
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

May 28, 2009
12:52 PM

Post #6609571

This plant has an interesting history:

It was originally reported as a chance seedling in 1983 by a Western Australian nursery as a dwarf of Philodendron selloum, and dubbed with the name Philodendron 'Winterbourn'.
It was renamed in 1988 as Philodendron 'Xanadu' by House Plants of Australia, and released as their "Plant of the Year". It was given the US Plant Patent PP7-030.

Since then it has been established that the plant was grown from seed collected from a wild plant which was collected from Brazil.
In 2003, the International Aroid Society published it's official name as:

Philodendron xanadu Croat, Mayo, & J. Boos.

So then, the plant is no longer a patented cultivar.

Philodendron xanadu is a natural species from Brazil!
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

May 28, 2009
06:47 PM

Post #6610965

I'll have to check next time I'm in a nursery, but I think last time I looked it was still being sold as a patented plant. They might be trying to pull a swifty.
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

June 05, 2009
10:13 PM

Post #6648417

Dave, what is this plant? Is it a Rhaphidophora?

Thank's much

Rachel

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RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

June 05, 2009
10:15 PM

Post #6648428

One more.

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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

June 05, 2009
10:26 PM

Post #6648464

Looks like an Epipremnum to me rather than a Rhaphidophora.
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

June 05, 2009
10:38 PM

Post #6648494

Hi Tropicbreeze, can you please tell me why you think so? There are so many of these "type" of plant's floating around in our part of the world that look similiar but most of the time are incorrectly tagged.

Can you supply a pic of what a Rhaphidophora, look's like and how it grow's for me? It would be appreciated.

Thank you

Rachel

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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

June 05, 2009
11:04 PM

Post #6648573

It looks a bit like one I've got which was identified as an Epipremnum. And I've been told they hold their leaves up that way. But I understand your confusion with all these aroids, I have the same feeling about many of them - I might be right, unless I'm wrong. I bought an Anthurium which came (indirectly) from an Anthurium specialist. Turned out it was an Amydrium. Label probably fell off and a wrong one put back. Also, apparently here it's illegal to import Colocasia. So they change the labels to Alocasia which are legal imports. The label stays and the plants are sold on as Alocasia. Gets back to the old saying, don't believe all you read.

So I won't give an iron clad guarantee it's an Epipremnum, but to my (often confused) mind it looks like one.
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

June 05, 2009
11:14 PM

Post #6648606

Guess we are "kind of in" the same way of dealing with all...just in different part's of the world;-)

BTW, red clay is torture here and thank's for adding the extra tip's that I did not know about or forgot.

I have to add , I hold a passion for Aroid's as a whole.

Rachel
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

June 06, 2009
05:28 PM

Post #6651044

I'm not completely sure, but I think Rachel's plant might be the juvenile form of Monstera obliqua var. expilata, the "Window Leaf" plant.
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

June 06, 2009
09:24 PM

Post #6652000

Well okay, that's made swiss cheese out of my theory :O(
RachelLF
Rural Retreat, VA

June 07, 2009
03:07 PM

Post #6654745

Thank's Dave. The plant you state come's the closest to a match.

Rachel
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

June 07, 2009
06:51 PM

Post #6655590

By the way, I checked out a place where they were selling "Xanadu". All the plants had a notice about them being protected by patent laws and that reproducing them for commercial purposes was illegal. I guess no one checks back.
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

June 07, 2009
07:12 PM

Post #6655669

I wonder if the US Patent Office ever revoked the patent?
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

June 07, 2009
07:40 PM

Post #6655780

There are patents in Australia and New Zealand for it as well. Patents offices aren't scientific centres and they register what fits their criteria. They wouldn't follow up scientific publications, someone would have to challenge the patent registration which probably no one has bothered to do.

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