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mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 6, 2009
1:30 AM

Post #6648245

This is the first one I've tried to grow from seed. Any tips?

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mjsponies

mjsponies
DeLand/Deleon Spring, FL
(Zone 8b)

June 6, 2009
2:00 AM

Post #6648375

Well, I have yet to get any passi's from seed...so I'd like to hear the secret too. I'vd done the soaking thing, (w/ oj, w/o oj, just planting them, coffee filter...nadda, zip, nutin honey...cuttings yup...that I can do.
KayJones
Panama City Beach, FL
(Zone 8b)

June 6, 2009
12:46 PM

Post #6649372

Your P. is quite pretty. HOW do YOU root your P. cuttings - I simply have tried EVERYTHING and can't do it!

mjsponies

mjsponies
DeLand/Deleon Spring, FL
(Zone 8b)

June 6, 2009
3:39 PM

Post #6649898

I looked for the thread by LouisianaMark where he explained the whole process of using floral foam ( for live plants ) for the passi's. Actually he uses something else I can't remember what it's called. I use wet floral foam, cut it into 1 in. cubes. When I take the cutting I get a 4 - 6 in. section of "soft wood", cut diagonally across a leaf node. Cut the leafs back about half their size. I use a tooth pick to poke a hole in the floral foam while it is still dry. Then I dip the cutting into rooting hormone, poke in the hole and set in a saucer w/ water so the foam can absorb the water. I keep a little water is the saucer, and cover w/ a big one gallon plastic bag. I also spray w/ Super Thrive. Make sure your saucer never dries out. I have the saucer sitting in window sill that faces somewhat Northeast w/ 20 % sun filter screen and a florescent light in the top.
This is working w/ the Pipevine also. Just make sure you have softwood cuttings of the Pipevine.
Maybe Mark will chime in he did a much better job of explaining it. I've got about 1/2 dozen each of Lady Margaret going and the Imperatrice Eugenie going now. I've used it for the Incarnata too, and Calico Pipevine. I haven't tried it yet w/ my Corkbark Passi, but when it gets big enough to take cuttings from I will !
I had tried vermiculite, sand etc, and this method has just worked great for me.
Now if I could just figure out the seeds...sigh...
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 6, 2009
4:18 PM

Post #6650036

I havent rooted any, I'm just getting started, Gordo told me to just keep the seeds moist and between 75-80 degrees and wait. She said they would grow.
blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 10, 2009
1:30 AM

Post #6666087

i hate trying to root passis they never want to grow. for me and my friend oh yeah you are my friend and you are haveing the same problem

mjsponies

mjsponies
DeLand/Deleon Spring, FL
(Zone 8b)

June 10, 2009
1:39 AM

Post #6666146

Ok..so some of can grow from seed and some can root...( I'm in the I can root group, but no seeds) , so those that can grow from seed, trade with those that can grow from rooting...;-) Works for me!!!! haha, ok I'm not trying to be a smarty pants, but really, we need to work together on this little problem.
mj
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
1:42 AM

Post #6666167

Blondie, I'll take care of you when mine get going.
blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 10, 2009
1:46 AM

Post #6666192

oh you got them to grow what is your secret i couldnt get them for nothing tried every thing
(w/ oj, w/o oj, just planting them, coffee filter...nadda, zip, nutin honey...cuttings yup...that I can do. did that sound familiar yup i copied you
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
1:48 AM

Post #6666204

YUP
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
2:03 AM

Post #6666322

I heard sometimes they don't grow true from seeds so I really want to try to root some. I have some white ones on the way for me to root.
blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 10, 2009
2:06 AM

Post #6666337

i get sprouts all over the yard and and i dig them up carefully and put them in a bucket of water for a few days and that has been working i have the lady margaret and insense
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
2:08 AM

Post #6666356

You rooted them? You didn't purchase them? Well.
blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 10, 2009
2:10 AM

Post #6666378

heck i gave up on the seeds a while ago i tried all ways i could and i waited til the ones i had started coming up all over the yard and i wait till they get about 5 or 6 leaves then i dig and put them in the bucket for about a week to see if they will make it and then i pot them up if they still look fresh
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
2:22 AM

Post #6666468

I'd like some of those too.
blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 10, 2009
2:22 AM

Post #6666474

no problem i will see what i can get for you
cuttings101
Gibsonton, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 10, 2009
2:43 AM

Post #6666627


I have had good luck getting cuttings to root for the Maypop, Purple Haze and Incense. I put them in root and shock hormone after the cutting is taken. Once I pull them from the hormone liquid I place them in a pot with either sand or potting soil. Then I place it in a one gallon zip lock bag with full sun (little green house). This has worked for me so far.

Seeds I have no luck with but it could be the seeds that I have.
blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 10, 2009
2:44 AM

Post #6666633

hey matt
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
2:49 AM

Post #6666657

I have maypops everywhere. They are hardy here. Just started seeing the others and found seeds so I'm trying them. Have a red one, and a few different in seeds. One lady said she had white and offered me some to try and root so I'm going to try. What is shoch hormone?
blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 10, 2009
2:50 AM

Post #6666660

shock hormone silly google it they you will know
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
2:52 AM

Post #6666669

WHAT?????????????????????????? you lost me.
blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 10, 2009
2:52 AM

Post #6666673

yes you are lost
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
2:53 AM

Post #6666678

Play nice!
blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 10, 2009
2:54 AM

Post #6666684

but i am not nice lol
cuttings101
Gibsonton, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 10, 2009
3:07 AM

Post #6666760

Hey Debi hows it going? Cats are growing like crazy even though some got taken by lizards before I could pull them into the enclosures. errrrrr

B1 is the shock hormone that this has in it.

http://www.planetnatural.com/site/hormex-concentrate.html

I have had good luck with it but its a tad expensive for the amount you get. It last a long way since you are just getting a plant to absorb a small amount for a few minutes and that's it.

blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 10, 2009
3:09 AM

Post #6666775

ah i am going to go to lukas hehehehe and get some at a discount lol
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
3:10 AM

Post #6666782

is it necessary?
cuttings101
Gibsonton, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 10, 2009
3:16 AM

Post #6666814


Lukas is an awesome nursery which I would work for free at. Might need you to send more cats since some did not make it.

Mekos:
it works for me and you generally see it at your local hydroponics stores. its not for use if the plant produces fruit you plant to eat (veggies). Quick blurb I pulled off the web about the two.

Powder: Plant growth stimulant for rooting woody & semi-woody plants & easy to propagate evergeens.

Liquid Concentrate: A vitamin, hormone concentrate and root growth stimulant. Hormex prevents transplant shock by stimulating growth of the small feeder roots, which become damaged during transplanting.

Make sense?
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
3:19 AM

Post #6666838

Yes, I use root hormone for cuttings anyway. Is it the same thing. Mine is powder.
cuttings101
Gibsonton, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 10, 2009
3:31 AM

Post #6666878


No its different b/c this has B1 in it. There is different studies out on the web that state its not needed and more for a gimmick. I have had better luck with this than the powder. It could be due to the hormone being liquid as appose to powder. I have gone to a few hydro stores and they speak very highly of it. I have read a lot of articles that support the use of B1. Its about 12 bucks for a little bottle of it. Cheap enough to give it a try in my opinion.



mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
3:33 AM

Post #6666888

Yes, but what's a hydro store? I live in the country-out in the boonies, so you got to explain more with me.What other stuff does the store sell?
cuttings101
Gibsonton, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 10, 2009
3:35 AM

Post #6666894


Hydroponics store

http://www.graceshydro.com/

this is a local store around my area.
cuttings101
Gibsonton, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 10, 2009
3:39 AM

Post #6666919

Southeast Garden Center & Nursery
640 Washburn Ave
Pendleton, SC 29670
(864) 646-7272

It appears that this is your closest hydro store in your area.
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
3:41 AM

Post #6666929

Oww. I don't think we have any of those around here. I'm in S.C. left hand corner at top of the state. Close to ga. and tennessee and under N.C.
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
3:43 AM

Post #6666937

Well, I know where pendleton is, I'll have to look for the store. Thank you.
cuttings101
Gibsonton, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 10, 2009
3:44 AM

Post #6666941


NP
Have a good one and DG mail me back with any other questions.

Matt
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2009
4:04 AM

Post #6667006

Thanks a lot.
LouisianaMark
Baton Rouge, LA

June 14, 2009
5:58 AM

Post #6684889

Hello all,

I guess I should take the time to read all the threads--just saw this one, and MJ responding to Kay about rooting cuttings, and hoping I would chime in.

I had tried rooting passie cuttings a couple of times (using incorrect methods) without success, and finally called a local nursery to see if they had gel rooting hormone (I figured that must be the trick). The lady on the phone asked what I was trying to root, and when I told her, she laughed and said passies were easy to root, and that you only spend your money on rooting gel for the difficult stuff. She proceeded to explain a few things to me like the importance of high humidity, and that the roots form at the node. She suggested I use either foam cubes or small cups of potting mix placed inside of a gallon plastic bag. I had actually bought some foam cubes to start seeds in, so I tried those in a gallon plastic bag on a few cuttings, and they rooted within a week. A couple of weeks later, I started a whole tray of passie and pipevine cuttings to have backup plants in case I lost the potted plants outside over the winter. I had great success in getting them to root, but missed some spider mites that ended up infesting the whole tray and killing several rooted plants.

For those interested here is the link with pics about rooting with Oasis Cubes--scroll down about half way. This method works great with either gallon plastic bags or trays with humidity domes. The pipevines took quite a bit longer than the passies, and one or two of the passies were slow (2 to 3 weeks), but most passies rooted within 10 days. I used a heat mat set to 80 degrees, with the gallon plastic bags sitting on top of a plastic shoebox cover so they wouldn't cook. A little cooler would have probably been fine, though the roots may have taken a little longer. I still use the powdered rooting hormone, since I have it and figure it can't hurt. Hope this helps!

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/915758/

Mark


This message was edited Jun 14, 2009 1:02 AM

mjsponies

mjsponies
DeLand/Deleon Spring, FL
(Zone 8b)

June 14, 2009
12:29 PM

Post #6685256

Thanks Mark,
Several people have asked me about this and I explain but I think you do a better job.
I've been getting pipevine to root also using the floral foam. I think my kitchen window. ( thank goodness for a large window
sill ! ) w/ the 20 % filter screen is one of the keys as it stays very bright and a nice 80 degrees. I use recycled deli containers to set the cuttings in and gallon baggies as my "mini greenhouse". I can't thank you enough for having posted that cause I root alot of passi's w/ all the butterflies here. I may have to put bird netting up over my Imperatice Eugenie ( fortunately I've got cuttings going of that too! )
On a different note, I got seeds of the White Veined Pipevine to sprout, in two weeks, in a baggy in the window sill...go figure.
blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 15, 2009
1:58 AM

Post #6688016

mekos you there here now you can click on mjs to see if she has it
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 15, 2009
2:12 AM

Post #6688091

I sent her a d-mail just now. Thanks my bestest friend. Go back to d-mail. You got one.
blondhavmofun
Orlando, FL

June 15, 2009
1:43 PM

Post #6689735

i am going to drive you crazy since i will be a work when you get these lol
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 15, 2009
4:37 PM

Post #6690614

YUP!

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