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Braveheartsmom
Kihei, HI
(Zone 11)

June 06, 2009
12:19 PM

Post #6650037

Aloha,

Somewhere (I think it was on Daves, but can't find it now) I read about using a Listerine mounthwash spray to keep mozzies from biting. We don't have too much of a problem in Kihei, but the few we do have just love Frank and my Mom. They both tried the spray and neither had so much as one little nibble. It seems a much less expensive and perhaps safer way to go than using OFF...I am hoping that some of you guys who really do have mosquitos the size of Zero planes will try this and let us know the results.

The thread also noted that they sprayed the door frames of their house and their deck area before a party and were mozzie free the whole evening. I wish I could remember where I read it and give credit to the person who shared this info - it could have been on any number of garden sites as it has been very quiet at work and I essentially have 8 hours a day to fill - LOL!

Whoops! Can't spell repellent this morning!

This message was edited Jun 6, 2009 6:21 AM
extranjera
Mérida
Mexico
(Zone 11)

June 06, 2009
01:01 PM

Post #6650236

I'll give it a try, we have the mozzies to test with :) I will say that most of those homegrown remedies have not worked when I tried them. Bounce sheets do seem to help some but now we mainly use them to wipe the dogs down, leaving one tied fetchingly to their collars. So far we've found 2 ingredients that work well, DEET and Icaridin. They are available in different strengths and formulas almost everywhere. We use Autan but there are other brands.
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 06, 2009
09:34 PM

Post #6652030

I told some a while back that we use it here instead of poisons and you can spray on anything. I use it because I'm allergic to so much and they make big whelps on me that itch so bad. It works for me when off hasn't.
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

June 06, 2009
09:41 PM

Post #6652053

Anyone ever try Citronella Grass (Cymbopogon nardus) tea?
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 06, 2009
09:49 PM

Post #6652079

I tried citronella spray and candles but they come to the candles and circle like wild indians about to attack. Nothing works 100% but the mouthwash in a spray bottle works pretty good and isn't poison. I've tried skin-so-soft bath oil,it works a little in the woods area, but not for long.Tried bounce fabric softener sheets but not much good either on our whoppers we get. I tried deet,(off) stinks and doesn't help either. Last year and this year, we're being carried off by horse flies that bite or sting as soon as they hit you. NOTHING seems to help with that problem.
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 07, 2009
06:40 AM

Post #6653093

Horse flies are awful and lots of people are allergic to their stings.

Off makes a new product that you carry on your person rather than spray on your skin. Does anyone have experience with it?

At the moment I use the Avon skin so soft spray in the green bottle which blessedly is unscented and works pretty well, but I would prefer not to have to spray anything on my skin.
Molamola
Christiansted, VI
(Zone 11)

June 07, 2009
07:39 AM

Post #6653197

The Listerine worked for me, but took a lot, and spraying every evening got too expensive. And everything got sticky. I tried the three active ingredients, Menthol, eucalyptus, and ?? but that didn't work at all.
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 07, 2009
08:53 AM

Post #6653364

Will any listerine do, or just a specific kind/ flavor?
Molamola
Christiansted, VI
(Zone 11)

June 07, 2009
09:02 AM

Post #6653394

I used the original.
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)

June 07, 2009
01:15 PM

Post #6654308

I am presently using the new fangled thing that Off has out. So far, so good. Mosquitoes only though. Still get bit by gnats, ants and no-see-ums. It is very pricey. $9.99 + tax for the darned thing. Then $.4.99 for two refills of the chemical which is eeeny-tiny...and had to replace the batteries on one of the two I purchased. DH says that is because I am outside more than the 12 hours recommened on the box. Several years ago I invented a complete suit to wear over your clothes made of very fine mosquito netting.
It was too hot to wear very long.

Would you believe it? It is now on the market as the "Bug Baffler". In the back of several gardening magazines and also offered in the new "Territorial Seed" catalog.
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 07, 2009
01:39 PM

Post #6654391

Twelve hours doesn't seem like a lot of time for the batteries to run out. A halfway decent gardener spends that time outdoors in two days!

I will have a look around. The Avon Skin so soft is not cheap either.
Molamola
Christiansted, VI
(Zone 11)

June 07, 2009
01:41 PM

Post #6654399

I saw park people in the Everglades in the summer wearing sweatshirts, jeans, boots, hats, gloves. Whew!!
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 07, 2009
01:48 PM

Post #6654441

We found this thing at Home Depot last year that cost 100.00 and you sit it in your yard and it repells mosquitos for 1/2 mile. For 150.00 it would repel for 1 mile. I'm not sure if it is electric or runs off some kind of gsp, but heard it really works. I have seen them set up in some yards where kids are out playing summer and they seem to be enjoying the yard. I haven't tried it, didn't have the money at the time. Might try it this time.
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)

June 07, 2009
01:51 PM

Post #6654452

We investigated that contraption a few years back when they cost $500. Finally decided it would be like the bug-zapper. More like a lure to bring them in from the hinterland.
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 07, 2009
01:52 PM

Post #6654458

Maybe I won't try it this year!Ooowww.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 11, 2009
08:15 PM

Post #6675434

I heard that too, and even tried it...I wasn't impressed...but..still...check http://www.snopes.com and most of the time they'll shed some light on it.
I'm trying a new product, a new thing I heard about at my Birthday party last weekend.
http://www.clearchoiceh2oh.com/choice-lawn-2.html

they are not finished with their website yet..but my friend said they had a lot of happy people who used it. Still, my motto is ..if it sounds too good to be true...uh huh...Anyway, it works in a system or can be hooked up to the hose and sprayed like other stuff. It's a repellant, not a bug killer...composed of lemon grass, Cinnamon and garlic oil all known for the repellant properties...I will receive my gallon on Saturday and be testing it over the next two weeks..will post results..and my thoughts..etc.


This message was edited Jun 11, 2009 7:20 PM
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 11, 2009
08:28 PM

Post #6675489

Anxious to hear how it does. Keep us posted.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 11, 2009
08:33 PM

Post #6675517

I will, I'm rather anxious too.
The owners were very nice and have gone over my expectations in answering questions, even were going to deliver the stuff themselves to check out the type of garden and make recommendations..so on that level, I'm very impressed with them already. From what I understand, this is a frequent application type thing, which is why they have a system they can install that frequently sprays the substance. It's all chemical free, and not under any government restrictions, and they say it's very butterfly and good critter friendly...
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

June 11, 2009
08:35 PM

Post #6675523

even better.
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)

June 11, 2009
08:58 PM

Post #6675653

Because of the bugs we are inside looking out many times when it is so pretty. I hope this works for you. I am next in line if it does.

PK
victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

June 11, 2009
09:03 PM

Post #6675676

Me too. I really am a skeeter magnet and get huge welts from thee bites. I have tried many things and none have worked really well. I have had moderate success with spray catnip, believe it or not.

I was looking into those propane CO2 contraptions too, but was not convinced it was worth it.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 11, 2009
09:04 PM

Post #6675679

Okay...I will keep a detailed journal like I did with the Seaweed Diaries
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 11, 2009
09:06 PM

Post #6675686

I like the Co2, and have one, unfortuneatly in the south here the technique doesn'e work on the West Nile mosquito..so..it's been on the shelf. Those little buggers are very determined and have excellent dodging abilities
victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

June 11, 2009
09:07 PM

Post #6675691

Amazing how all these new repellents have been tested by a major university, or the Federal government, etc.
victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

June 11, 2009
09:08 PM

Post #6675695

So the West Niles ones are not attracted to it?
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 11, 2009
09:10 PM

Post #6675708

No, apparently they find their victims via another format than the exhaled breath
victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

June 11, 2009
09:13 PM

Post #6675730

GPS?
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 11, 2009
09:18 PM

Post #6675766

right!?
...I could be wrong in exactly how ...but I do know that the Co2 thing does not attract them..that much I retained when I read the info.
extranjera
Mérida
Mexico
(Zone 11)

June 12, 2009
02:38 AM

Post #6676862

The ones I worry about here are the egypti that carry dengue, mainly they bite in the daytime and at dusk. I'm not too bothered by bites, I used to get a huge reaction but I've found that now that I'm older they don't welt like they used to. Still, it's not the bite it's the disease that I worry about. Since we had our first big rains they are around more and we're spending more time inside in the evenings.

Don't you just wish there was a way to just suck all of the mosquitoes and other blood suckers and disease carriers up and off the planet? It's my dream.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 12, 2009
01:29 PM

Post #6678480

Yes, or make them infertle

We are on the low side of Mosquitos..we are in a heat wave, and it's evaporating everything, including our puffy tropical clouds...it's rare during this time of year not to have tons of white puffy clouds floating accross the sky..but they are dried up...
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

June 12, 2009
07:38 PM

Post #6679767

A lot of my neighbors swear by the Buzz Off system but I suspect it is because they shelled out many thousands to have it installed. They have to justify that somehow. LOL
http://buzzoffmosquito.com/

It seems we have gotten all your rain rj, and it has brought out gazillions of the little bloodthirsty devils. At least it is too hot for the no see ums.


rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 12, 2009
07:59 PM

Post #6679859

Yeah, these guys put in systems too, but what I liked about it was the flexibility NOT to, although I'm quite sure it works much better with the system...we pooor.!

arrgghh..it's hot...97F...our low tonight...79F, I was up at 3:00 AM deep watering.
victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

June 12, 2009
08:07 PM

Post #6679894

Ouch - 97!! You have my sympathy, rj.
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)

June 12, 2009
08:21 PM

Post #6679949

There are tornado warnings everywhere. Looking at the garden is very scary. Not a single leaf is stirring. That is not a good sign. Have lived through 3 tornadoes in this very house. Not fun. The circumstances are favorable for a tornado. My granddaughter is the lead in a ballet tonight in Decatur. The weather man keeps showing how close this storm cell is to them. My son and DIL is there as well. Actually a lot of people I hold dear to my heart. This is somewhat late for these storms here. Nature is all off kilter.

PK
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 12, 2009
08:21 PM

Post #6679950

I usually don't complain..but then it's usually August with these types of temps.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 12, 2009
08:23 PM

Post #6679963

hmm..and usually we get all the stuff that passes through Dallas...it just disapates..
the stuff you got slammed with yesterday evaporated by the time it got here last night
Braveheartsmom
Kihei, HI
(Zone 11)

June 12, 2009
10:32 PM

Post #6680594

Hope you and the family stay safe Christi...
extranjera
Mérida
Mexico
(Zone 11)

June 13, 2009
02:29 AM

Post #6681223

Yes, tornadoes are frightening. I hope those you love are safe.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
03:29 PM

Post #6686730

Got the gallon of stuff yesterday- whew, anyone offended by the smell of Garlic should not use it.
It has-
Garlic oil
Cinammon oil
Lemon grass oil
Castor oil
Cedar oil

Haven't used it yet as the Heat has pretty much taken care of the mosquitos
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 14, 2009
03:41 PM

Post #6686788

I bought the OFF clip-on gadget three days ago - and returned it this morning. The mosquitos were literally laughing in my face.
One bit me on my arm, he was at that time about 3 inches away from the gadget.
Jeez.
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 14, 2009
03:45 PM

Post #6686800

I wish the heat we've been having would take care of sending mosquito's someplace else! It's been mid 90's and so humid, but we've been having a lot of rain the past month and the 'Skeeters' are horrible! I don't like strong garlic smell but right now I'd try anything! I emptied the birdbath's and made sure there is no standing water around anywhere ... went out earlier to pull a few weeds and it was like a cloud of those landing all over me! I was covered in Skin So Soft and then used Off spray on top of that. I've lived in the south all my life and had to put up with these flying pests but I don't ever remember them being so bad! They sure seemed to be attracted to me, even when I was covered with spray ... Guess I'm just too sweet! (couldn't resist) :-)
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
04:18 PM

Post #6686894

I will be spraying it around the garden this week. The smell of garlic isn't so bad if the jug is left outside. I would recommend putting it in a large rubbermaid tub for storage. I like garlic, so it's not bad for me, but it is powerful smelling at first.
It's been humid here, but today it's much lower, and the wind seems to be from the north.
Something in the gulf is really pulling energy down there...check it out

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/east/animation/goeseastwv.html
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
05:51 PM

Post #6687149

Well that does not look good, especially for us in the SE corner of SC.

Keep us posted on the mosquito spray. Because we have been having rain, and a lot of it too, we are being eaten alive down here.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
05:55 PM

Post #6687158

I willl.
I am taking pictures of the label, and bottle..and then will keep a daily journal.
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 14, 2009
06:22 PM

Post #6687230

I will be really interested to hear your updates on this product! My husband is talking about calling the county tomorrow to ask them to spray in our area. I sure hate using chemicals ... would much rather use natural ingredients, but want to get rid of all these skeeters! I'm just amazed at how bad they are all of a sudden, but it's probably from the major flooding a couple of weeks ago when we had rain for 7 or 8 days nonstop. Canal's were overflowing and there is still lots of standing water around town.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
06:31 PM

Post #6687260

Okay,
Our reduced population is partly because the City has sprayed. Because of Ike, they went in and sprayed the sewers, arial sprayed, and by truck...it seems to have worked nicely for the most part combined with no rain. And we have loads and loads of butterflies this season!
Those little west nile buggers though are nasty and skillful persistent dodgers..I keep fly swatters around the garden throne (my garden chair the entire garden is designed around), and they are hard to swat they are so fast..and much smaller than the normal skeeter.
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 14, 2009
07:26 PM

Post #6687441

I didn't know there was more than one kind of mosquito, thought all mosquitoes carried the west nile virus? We've been in our current home for 34 years and are in an unincorporated area. We haven't seen the trucks coming around our little neighborhood very often at all over the years and when they do spray it's usually July/August. We've had much more heat and rain this past month than is normal for this time of year. With hearing on the news about west nile virus and all the standing water around, you'd think they would be spraying on a daily basis to cover the entire county!

While googling I found this info ... apparently certain people are mosquito attracters!

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/are-you-mosquito...

More interesting reading from the CDC website: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/westnile/prevention_info.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/westnile/wnv_factsheet.htm
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

June 14, 2009
08:06 PM

Post #6687587

There are five species of biting insects in Hawai'i: Aedes aegypti, Aedes albopictus, Aedes nocturnus, Culex quinquefasciatus, and Wyeomyia mitchelli.

The worst of these is Culex quinquefasciatus, the Southern House Mosquito. It spreads avian malaria to native birds, which is a culprit in their extinction. It also transmits the parasite which causes heartworm in pets. There is no human malaria in Hawai'i, so far.

If you are being bitten by a mosquito in Hawai'i in the day time it is usually Aedes albopictus, which has "tiger stripes" on it's abdomen, or Culex quinquefasciatus. At night is is likely Aedes nocturnus.

In addition to the biting mosquitos, there are two species of non-biting predator mosquitos in Hawai'i: Toxorhynchites amboinensis & Toxorhynchites brevipalpis. They were introduced to control the biting mosquitos, but it hasn't worked too well!

Aloha, Dave
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
08:13 PM

Post #6687605

yes, unfortuneatly there is a variety..the one that carries west nile is Culex pipiens mosquito. It too is responsible for viral infections in birds. In fact that is one of the frist clues that there may be a problem is dead Blue Jays, as they are more suceptible that most. A couple of years ago, I had noticed a few dead blue jays, so I resolved to save the next one I found..which I did, I bagged it, and put it in the outside fridge and called the city who came and picked it up.. they thanked me later for having one of the best specimens to test on which had tested positive to the west nile virus. The city has been very good at keep the populations down.

I can vouch that I'm one of those people that are certain attractors..they've also noticed that folks who have a high concentration of vitamin B in their system have less attraction to the beasts.
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 14, 2009
08:21 PM

Post #6687634

...which is one of the reasons why I take a Vitamin B supplement. However - they LAUGH at my vitamin B rich blood... :-(
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
08:22 PM

Post #6687643

LOL, yes...me too. May be they go for the genetically young looking folks..yeah..that's it!
victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

June 14, 2009
08:23 PM

Post #6687650

Same here. I take supplements and eat many foods high in B. They devour me. Also tried garlic pills - did nothing.
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
08:31 PM

Post #6687686

Fortunately we have few of the kind that carry West Nile but we have more than our share of the marsh mosquitoes and they are mean little buggers.
http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~insects/sp10.htm

Sorry Dave, but everywhere I went in HI people asked if I had sprayed up with Deet. I thought it was hysterical because we would never spray up for so few mosquitoes around here. Honestly, you really do live in paradise; you may not think so but, by comparison, you don't have very many skeeters. :-)

rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
08:33 PM

Post #6687693

the only thing that keeps them off of me..is "off", nothing else comes close ..and at that it doesn't last long in the humidity...the metal arms on my chairs are coroded from the stuff.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
08:35 PM

Post #6687705

There were a few next door to Daves at Carols..they were pretty annoying where they live...I had to spray everytime I went out..Of course..they live in the upper elevation with more forrest, and less of the winds that are enjoyed right on the coast line that tend to keep the skeeters at bay.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
08:36 PM

Post #6687708

mabe it's the time of the year..I was there in September, and it rained every night...
we have it out for mosquitos...but I've never seen anything like the arsenal they have for those cane frogs? oh boy they don't like those guys!

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plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 14, 2009
09:15 PM

Post #6687850

Great education I'm getting here. I had no idea there were so many different types of these critters! It's been all over the news here lately about the West Nile Virus ... especially after the floods last month. The past few years we've been hearing about mosquito's carrying Encephalitis: http://rarediseases.about.com/cs/eeencephalitis/a/041903.htm

We have many, many Blue Jays ... they nested in trees along the fence line in the backyard this spring. Two weeks ago I found a dead mourning dove in the backyard ... buried it in the corner I call our pet cemetery. We have lots of doves around too and I don't know what killed it but thought maybe a young hawk dropped it. It was under the Schefflera tree in a flower bed. I don't know if it was a young bird or not, hard to tell with doves but there is no nest in that particular tree or in nearby trees. It looked like something had pecked the top of it's head so maybe another bird took it out.

hmm ... earlier today my husband said the skeeters weren't bothering him that much, yet I couldn't stay outside because they were so bad! I'm telling him that I've learned from an expert scientist that skeeters always go for genetically young looking folks! :-)




rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2009
09:19 PM

Post #6687863

lol...
keep your eye open for the blue jays...more than 1 dead one in a couple of weeks should raise a flag.
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 14, 2009
09:34 PM

Post #6687928

Thanks for telling us about the Blue Jay. I will certainly be on the look out for any more dead birds and plan on asking my neighbors if they've noticed any on their property too.
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

June 14, 2009
10:27 PM

Post #6688179

There are lots of mosquitos here. Our basic health rules for them are to keep buckets dumped, and try to avoid having standing water around.

We have had dengue fever scares, and human malaria is always on the minds of health officials.

Interestingly, I have a weed in my water gardens that is a carnivorous plant, which I have just identified (minutes ago!) as Utricularia gibba subsp. exoleta. Now I know why I don't see mosquito larvae in my ponds.

Thumbnail by Metrosideros
Click the image for an enlarged view.

LindaTX8
NE Medina Co., TX
(Zone 8a)

June 14, 2009
11:23 PM

Post #6688458

I haven't found anything that keeps the skeeters off me. Hovering within a couple of degrees under 100 most days and no clouds...from the time the sun comes up to when it goes down the garden is baking. Plants wilt...some will probably die if we don't get some relief soon. San Antonio near us has 3 triple-digit days forecast starting tomorrow. Stage 2 water restrictions and Exceptional Drought Level. It's been a long two years of drought.
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

June 14, 2009
11:29 PM

Post #6688477

Thanks Linda. Interesting perspective, when so many folks around here complain about the rain!
extranjera
Mérida
Mexico
(Zone 11)

June 15, 2009
01:00 AM

Post #6688761

We have the Aedes aegypti which is the one that carries dengue and we have others as well, one of which can carry malaria although it isn't a big problem here. The aegypti is an urban mosquito, it likes cities and bites in the daytime. They are usually under tables or chairs and I always spray before going to an outside restaurant.

There is a lot of public information and government spraying for mosquitoes here, dengue is a big problem at times. I live in the old center of the city and there are several houses nearby with more or less abandoned yards, lots of stuff back there that water collects in. I contacted the dengue office here and they came out and made the owners clean it up, there are also trucks that go through late at night spraying.

Still, we have mosquitoes now that the rainy season has started. I'm going to the US for a few weeks soon and I am thinking of getting one of those traps, I just don't want to attract all the mosquitoes in the neighborhood.

I have a pond as I think that it is a good magnet for the females and I have hundreds of hungry mollies in there just waiting. I never see larvae and I don't think they last very long. It's the drains I worry about, the way they are constructed here they hold water so I pour bleach down them every few days.
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
07:15 AM

Post #6689164

I keep a couple of small feeder goldfish in every lotus pot and water feature. They are only .38 cents each at WalMart and they keep the mosquito larvae under control. Now if I could only figure out a way to keep the herons and raccoons away from the goldfish. LOL

I confess, I did see a mosquito while touring Carol's property. One, and it had rained that morning.
It's paradise, I tell 'ya.

The tides were high around here last week and usually a few days later (about now) we will be inundated with clouds of skeeters at dawn and dusk. It doesn't help that we also received about 8" in the last week or two.

Quick Randy, tell us that smelly stuff works and doesn't garlic keep evil spirits and deer away too????
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
11:27 AM

Post #6690258

LOL
I'm at the car shop right now but plan to take a photo of the jugs
Label.
Ironically it's not optimal testing conditions right now. This stuff works best hooked up to a sprinkler system for frequent applications.
I'll list the web info with the pic.
My friend who represents the local company says they have a spectacular garden mosquito free. having said that, my friend is not a
Garden or plant person and we have to consider several factors like what time of day was he there, how many times etc
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
12:31 PM

Post #6690585

I dare say they're going to tell me what "other" is...except a secret!

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
12:32 PM

Post #6690587

ingredient side

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
12:34 PM

Post #6690596

other side- a gallon is suppose to last a looooong time outside the sprinkler system. I think it's less than a teaspoon per gallon of water. There is the home website. They're fertilizer that includes seaweed, and works exactly like seaweed is next on the testing block. Apparently it can be used in ponds too.

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
12:35 PM

Post #6690602

top of bottle

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
12:39 PM

Post #6690626

Full bottle.
If anyone orders, use http://www.clearchoiceh2oh.com/choice-lawn-2.html and say Randy sent you..
I know if I were in some mosquito ridden place right now I wouldn't want to wait for someone to test it, I'd test it myself..it is 50 bucks or so per gallon..

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
12:40 PM

Post #6690632

better picture of full label

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
12:42 PM

Post #6690643

So you can see, it is intended for a 'system' but they tell me it will work with out. The way I see it, it is a disclaimer so to speak...buy expensive system..and it will work..we'll see.
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
02:07 PM

Post #6691056

I am seriously wondering if all that garlic and cinnamon oil will repel deer????? Also, moles hate castor oil. Think this may be the wonder pill we have all been looking for????? ;-)



LindaTX8
NE Medina Co., TX
(Zone 8a)

June 15, 2009
02:56 PM

Post #6691323

Well, I didn't see any way to order anything!
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
03:45 PM

Post #6691559

They are still working on the website..I will post an email you can inquire at momentarily.


and no...I go by the motto...if it's too good to be true ...it is...

So far I'd say the negative for this would be intense smell..whatever ya do..don't leave it in the car for 2 days in the hot sun like my friend did bringing it to me...it's the garlic mobile now.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
03:49 PM

Post #6691574

Sally MacAdoo
Clear Choice H2Oh! and Green and Pest-Free Naturally
281-724-9509
mailto:
smacadoo@clearchoiceh2oh.com
from clearchoise

Hi Randy. Yes, anyone interested can write me at smacadoo@clearchoiceh2oh.com or call me at 281-724-9509. Our website is not yet complete. There is a parent company, but you cannot order direct from that company. Only through the franchise for the area. We own from Jasper to Galveston, Beaumont to Victoria. Thanks!! Sally

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LindaTX8
NE Medina Co., TX
(Zone 8a)

June 15, 2009
03:50 PM

Post #6691584

As far as deer, not too many problems with them, but I need an armadillo repellent right now!
lourspolaire
Delray Beach, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 15, 2009
04:11 PM

Post #6691694

Hi.

Keeping the herons and other fishing birds out of your pond: study which direction they come from. String some fishing line here and there across their final approach. The nylon line will cramp their style and they'll soon decide your fish are not worth the effort.

As for raccoons, I once surrounded my pond with a fence charger I had purchased at a farm auction. The raccoons get shocked a couple times and never return. It also works for skunks and any other nocturnal creature. To be legal, the charger must create discharges instead of being on all the time. Mine discharged every 10 seconds, if memory serves. It was very effective.

Sylvain.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
04:23 PM

Post #6691746

too late for mine..I haven't seen them all week..something snacked them
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2009
08:02 PM

Post #6692690

Okay...Here is a blog I'm posting tomorrow in the Chronicle...it explains the label, and the "other" part of the ingredients that Sally from Clear Choice sent me an hour ago.
Rj

"Blood Wars!"
http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=rj...
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)

June 15, 2009
08:22 PM

Post #6692772

Waiting with "bated breathe" or is it "baited breathe". Whichever, I hope they are on to something. I am contemplating going outside now. Key word...contemplating.

PK
lourspolaire
Delray Beach, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 16, 2009
11:56 AM

Post #6695659

Hi, everyone.

Oy, I'm telling you. You people don't know from mosquitos.

In my native Canada, north of the 45 parallel the mosquito season is short but the mosquitoes are king-sized, aggressive and armed.

We're talking about mosquitoes so big you can trap them for the fur.
We have mosquitos that will suck so much blood out of you, you will feel woozy.
We have mosquitos that have a 3-inch space between their eyes.
If one of our mosquitos gets sucked into an airplane's jet engine, that plane is going down.
You don't leave small babies unattended outside. Same goes for cats and small dogs.
If you hit one with your car, you'll need a paint job or a new windshield.
The government conducts mosquito population studies every year with tag and release programs.
Our mosquitoes drink DEET right out of the bottle.

I could go on and on. You people don't know from mosquitos. ROTFLMHO
Take care, all.
Sylvain.
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 16, 2009
12:12 PM

Post #6695746

:-) ROFLMBO! That is so funny! It would make a great comedy or horror movie! LOL ... The attack of the Monster Mosquito's!

Gee .. I always wanted to visit Canada but I dislike cold weather even more than mosquito's. I would definitely have to travel in the summer time, but I wonder what type of clothing I would wear ... maybe something camouflage, with a mosquito net covering ... and my entire self soaked in garlic oil?
lourspolaire
Delray Beach, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 16, 2009
12:23 PM

Post #6695812

When Jacques Cartier, a misguided french navigator discovered the shores of Canada in 1534, he nicknamed it Cain's land. That should give you a hint right there. He lost more than half his men to mosquitos.

Wear everyday summerwear for Canada: warm boots, ski pants, hooded parka, ski gloves. Like I said, everyday wear. Leave the sunscreen at home but do pack your ice axe. Your hotel may have a pool so you could bring a swimsuit, I guess.

Summer as such usually lasts from the first to the 3rd week of July unless it rains. In that case, summer is cancelled altogether. There are 4 seasons in Canada:
- Winter,
- Almost-not-winter,
- Summer (lasting 3 weeks and optional), and finally
- Soon-it-will-be-winter-again.

Sorry to pop your balloon.
Sylvain.
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

June 16, 2009
12:40 PM

Post #6695886

Hey Sylvain, I thought that the four seasons of the Great North were: early winter, mid-winter, late winter, and next winter!
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 16, 2009
12:43 PM

Post #6695945

:-)

Ok ... if I ever do venture that far north I will plan on packing accordingly! Then again ... I'd have to borrow the parka thing with the hood since I haven't owned a coat since 1967. Ice Axe?%#@! Oh my goodness ... you mean I'd have to be chopping ice? LOL, I guess I could let my husband handle that!

Gee, I've only been in below zero temp's once in my life and boy was that interesting, what a shock to the system! As much as the heat and humidity of Florida gets to me as I get older, I still don't think I will venture too far north to winter weather.
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 16, 2009
01:47 PM

Post #6696191

Trust me - cold gets to you worse when you get older. I speak from experience.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 16, 2009
01:51 PM

Post #6696209

OH AL contra ire Mon Ami...
Having lived in Alaska, I DO know the scourge of the Mosquitoes. Horrible..never seen anything like it...the wonderful 3 weeks of summer they DO have is tainted by clouds..literally clouds of mosquitoes...
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 16, 2009
02:14 PM

Post #6696296

That's the thing I don't understand - why some folks say we need a cold winter to kill the bugs. Apparently they didn't ask the caribou. The nature programs I've seen about the caribou migration in Canada and Alaska states a caribou can lose a half a pint of blood a day when they encounter the mosquito swarms. Does colder weather really kill mosquitos? It doesn't appear to.

Spain had/has some large mosquitoes too. I never saw them but I knew they could easily penetrate a sheet so you had to sleep with a blanket in summer (the windows were open with no screens - no A/C in the barracks) to avoid the blood suckers.



rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 16, 2009
04:20 PM

Post #6696840

Thankyou!!
That's what I say too...cold winter or not they are going to be there when it warms up.
Molamola
Christiansted, VI
(Zone 11)

June 17, 2009
06:59 AM

Post #6699621

Metro-- Is there a source for that plant?!! the Utricularia gibba subsp. exoleta. that you mentioned Is that the flower, are there seeds?
Metrosideros
Keaau, HI

June 17, 2009
12:15 PM

Post #6700776

Hi Molamola, the plant came as a weed from water gardening enthusiasts around here. I have just identified the plant; as it is flowering I will pay attention and try to get seed. I'd be glad to send you some, if I can collect them.
Molamola
Christiansted, VI
(Zone 11)

June 17, 2009
02:35 PM

Post #6701409

That'd be great! I bet they're tiny.
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)

June 18, 2009
02:55 PM

Post #6706567

When we first got here I used/tried/bought/borrowed everything I could find against mosquitos. They LOVE me - don't bother DH at all. In my water catchment and collecting areas I use BTI in the form of little bits of it that are thrown in. They are a bacteria that eats the larvae of the mosquitos. Then, in liquid form called Vectorbac, I load the 14 gallon sprayer and spray under the trees where the big leaves fall and collect water AND I spray in the axils of the bananas, heliconias etc...and just generally the understory. It keeps them down but not gone! Some of the Yard Guard works for 10 mins... Deet is the only thing that really works for me (and from a US Army study using lots of different things).

Those OFF tablets that you heat with the candle are GREAT but $$$$$. In all other parts of the country yu can get the little plugins - like the scented ones - where yu put a pad of the stuff and it dispenses for 12 hours...even with all the windows open and no screens. We used them on the boat all over the S. pacific and Mexico/central/south america. They are made by Bayer and only sold in Mexico...made by a Japanese Company and by a NZ company too. So...I get mine abroad... They really really work.

When I sit at my desk and watch the mozzies beating on the screen to get to me...I know they are bad...so I bomb all around the house outside... my fun for the day!!! murdering mosquitos.

Carol
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 18, 2009
03:16 PM

Post #6706655

Well I started trolling the internet and came up with some interesting finds. Watch this space.
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 18, 2009
03:23 PM

Post #6706679

OK, I found this and ran it by my DS who is a budding physicist and has actually DONE Quantum Physics (make that: aced Quantum Physics). He unfortunately said they have no idea what they are talking about and that it's a gimmick.
Would have been great if it had worked... anyone want to spend the bucks to give it a test run?

http://www.thehealingbarn.com/canine/shootagproduct.html?gcl...

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rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 18, 2009
03:45 PM

Post #6706796

I think Quantam Physics does work to a degree, depending on how powerful a persons mind is. It all boils to mind over matter so to speak. It's the modern day way of saying 'magic'. Same principals, talismans (tags) they are all designed to focus the mind. It's one of those areas that is difficult if not intangible to measure in scientific terms, and therefore shunned by science for the most part.
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 18, 2009
03:50 PM

Post #6706844

Oh I am not saying I don't believe in QP or mind over matter. Just that this particular product stretches things a bit.
After I read the chapter on Schroedinger's Cat, when my DS was starting Quantum Physics, I knew this wasn't my field of expertise though!
LOL.
I just looked Schroedinger's Cat up on Wikipedia and love the note about 'this may be unclear or confusing' - no kidding...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrödinger's_cat
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 18, 2009
03:53 PM

Post #6706868

your absolutely right about that..it's like a pet rock or something..no one need buy something like that.
Have you seen the movie "What the Bleep do we Know Anyway?"
great movie about QP
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 18, 2009
04:51 PM

Post #6707206

Oh I haven't seen it no. Sounds interesting.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 18, 2009
05:03 PM

Post #6707265

It is worth seeing, it's all about Quantam Mechanics, and I'm sure there will be at least one item that you can identify with. There are a few Authorities on the subject in there too. It's a bit Documentish..(new word).lol
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 24, 2009
10:49 AM

Post #6731690

At the recommendation of a friend I went to the health food store and bought a bar of 'Thera Neem Botanical Cleansing Bar' with Lemongrass and Patchouli. She says just lather up and spread over your arms, legs etc.
I've just spent a blissful hour outside without being bothered by bugs :-)
I will reuse it again this evening - which is when the mosquitos are at the worst. I'll report!
Molamola
Christiansted, VI
(Zone 11)

June 24, 2009
11:03 AM

Post #6731758

You leave the suds, or rinse?
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 24, 2009
11:19 AM

Post #6731835

She said leave it on; surprisingly (or maybe because I sweated so much) there were no suds when I washed off after I came in.
victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

June 24, 2009
11:23 AM

Post #6731855

Look forward to tonight's report.
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)

June 24, 2009
01:30 PM

Post #6732483

Running to the store!!!
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 24, 2009
05:24 PM

Post #6733508

sorry was sidelined for a few days..here is
blood wars "the strategy"
http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=rj...
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

June 24, 2009
05:47 PM

Post #6733592

My test of the Neem soap this evening has been superseded by thunderstorms and rain... maybe tomorrow!
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)

June 24, 2009
06:32 PM

Post #6733767

Randy...read your blog and it sounds interersting. The GREAT thing about Vectorbac (BTI) is that it is totally harmless to all ...animals included. It won't harm an animal that drinks from the waterbowl that has BTI in it. And...no odor.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

June 24, 2009
06:47 PM

Post #6733823

Yeah..there stuff has a reputation for being very water friendly.

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